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>*on his deathbed* "I f-finally admit that Parmenides and Guenon were right, I shouldn't have tried to contend with the Eleatic doctrine, I hope that when I die in a few moments I'm not further estranged from the immutable One because of my past ignorance and blasphemy against it... tat tvam asi ... *gurgles*... *dies*"

>> No.13758812

>>13758794
>Guenon
Btfo by Heraclitus and Dr. Jordan B Peterson

>> No.13758813
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>“permanence can be snatched only out of flux; and the passing moment can find its adequate intensity only by its submission to permanence. Those who would disjoin the two elements can find no interpretation of patent facts”

>> No.13758814
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13758814

>guenonfag tries to force meme for months
>almost nobody notices or cares
>one guy goes "Dude you've been spamming this for months, what is wrong with you"
>guenonfag replies HAHA TROLLED YOU!!! THE MEME IS THAT THAT I'M FORCING THE MEME!!! and spams it 400 times in one day
>almost nobody notices or cares

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>>13758794

>> No.13758853

>tfw going to visit Guenon’s grave in Egypt for /lit/

>> No.13758862
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>>13758814
you right now

>> No.13758892

>>13758853
don't do that. that's pathetic levels of fanboyism. you will look back on your young self one day and cringe. im trying to help you here. trust me, don't do it.

>> No.13758899

If anything opposes the One, it means it must be not all that there is.
A thing is only equal to anything which is identical in all qualities to it. Therefore, change destroys all sameness.

>> No.13758915

>>13758892
t. Whiteheadfag

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>>13758899
This. You can't oppose "the One". Literally all experience any instance of change, refutes the possibility of "the One". Parmenides fags can't even open their mouth to speak without refuting themselves thereby.

>> No.13758928

>>13758794
Can someone explain this meme to me?

>> No.13758931

>>13758928
turf war between whiteheadians and guenonians.

>> No.13758953

>>13758899
They only think they are opposing the One because they remain ignorant of it, not realizing that it forms the very basis of their being by which they futilely attempt to oppose it

>> No.13758960

>>13758862
Everybody gets one.

>> No.13758963

>>13758953
>using terms related to change while presupposing a pure monist ontology
cringe and selfrefutingpilled

>> No.13758967

>>13758931
*between ~whiteheadians and guenonfag

>> No.13758978

>>13758814
>doesn't explain himself once
/lit/'s autism is awe inspiring sometimes

>> No.13758990

>>13758814
>the same spelling mistakes even
I assume this is some kind of bot.

>> No.13759012

>>13758814
I notice and care about guenonfag and molyneuxfag and would be sad if I didn’t see them in a Whitehead thread.

>> No.13759018

>>13758963
>not realizing that non-dualism allows for the illusion of change and that it's not a contradiction whatsoever
hello brainlet department?

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>>13759018
no it doesn't. the doctrine of maya is a massive cope with the fact that the teaching refutes itself. maya is literally pic related

>> No.13759070

>>13759026
>the fact that the teaching refutes itself.
and how does it do that exactly?

>> No.13759094

>>13759070
The same way Parmenides does, only the non-dualists add the magic of maya on top in order to obscure this fact from credulous idiots. Parmenides was at least honest and had some self awareness of the absurdity of his doctrine.

>> No.13759601

>>13758899

Categorically wrong.

>> No.13759614

>>13758814
t. Seething whiteheadfag
Its not one person you retard lol

>> No.13759635

>>13759012
It's like getting barked at by a dog on the way home as a teenager, there's a sweet sort of recognition to it.

>> No.13759646

>>13759614
>uhhh like omg lol it's like omg

>> No.13759677

>>13759646
Cringe

>> No.13759720

>>13759614
>>13759677
Why does Guenonfag always post like this with reddit buzzwords? Is he trying to fit in

>> No.13759741

>>13759720
it's a form of taqiyya

>> No.13759820

>>13759094
you still didnt explain how its wrong or illogical

>> No.13759833 [DELETED] 

>>13759646
Cringe

>> No.13759838

>>13759820
It's trying to have your cake and eat it too. You want a nondual metaphysics, but this is incongruous with experience so you invent the magical non-explanation of maya to cope with this fact. And even then it still poses problems, because how can you have magical illusions in a nondual metaphysics. The answer is twofold: that's also an illusion, I ain't gotta explain shit. Answer two is the sacred Poopooshart texts say that it is so, you must respect the sacred texts. You can't see how that's retarded?

>> No.13759968

>>13759838

The One is not one in a Numerical sense.

>> No.13759974

>>13759741
Kek

>> No.13759981

>>13759968
Yes it is, it's just geometric instead of arithmetic.

>> No.13759993

>>13759838
All you said is that it poses problems, you still
have not refuted anything or shown how anything about it is wrong or illogical, your post is just rhetoric

>> No.13760315

>>13759833
Cope

>> No.13760316

>>13759838
>but this is incongruous with experience.
exactly, the phenomenal world is the world of eternal becoming.

>>13759981
unlike the limited, constrained ''metaphysics'' of process, the ultimate reality can't be quantified; by expressing this ultimate reality as the One it entails that it is a matter of analogy but not identity.

>> No.13760653

>>13758812
>Heraclitus
btfo by Socrates

>> No.13760678

>>13759646
Mega cringe

>> No.13760681

>>13759646
Based

>> No.13760751

>>13760316
>the ultimate reality can't be quanitifed
Except for it being Allah, right? Can't forget that part or we'll go to hell

>> No.13760758

>>13758814
Cringe
Guenon is based

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>>13758892
>no fun allowed

>> No.13760779

>>13758967
*between ~a bald new-ager and based Parmenides fags

>> No.13760786

>>13758892
Shut up fag thats based. At least he isnt playing wow

>> No.13760790

>>13758814
I've retroactive parmenides posted before and I'm definitely not guenonfag. You're the real schizo anon, always first or second reply in these threads with the same image.

>> No.13760860

>>13758814
Oh so the “retroactive” thing is a bait. I thought it was a serious remark and corrected them yesterday, saying it was more like “proactively”

>> No.13760869

>>13758853
Cairofag here, unironically considering doing this

>> No.13760873

>>13760779
>"based fags"
Stop telling on yourself.

>> No.13760895

>>13760790
>I've retroactive parmenides posted before and I'm definitely not guenonfag.

t. Guenonfag

Thanks for ruining Guenon AND Advaita posting on this board you obnoxious cancer

>> No.13760908

>>13758814
>>13759720
>>13760873
>>13760895
reddit

>> No.13760912

>>13760908
Based
>>13760895
Cringe

>> No.13760935

>>13760653
>Socrates
btfo by Nietzsche

>> No.13761000

>>13760908
>>13760912
>redditor projecting and a trip fagging
Seethe

>> No.13761015

>>13758853
>the sun slowly ascends above the Pyramids on an arid tuesday morning
>A slightly overweight white man with hair stuck to his forehead is walking onward into your perspective in a slightly less than straight line
>He pants for a few moments with his hands on his knees before finally gazing into a derelict square in Cairo
>A motionless stone block dominates the right of the square, adorned with simple text and geometric patterns
>Anons eyes widen nearly as much as the first time he saw Shinji choke Asuka
>I'VE DONE IT, he screams
>I'VE DONE IT
>I'VE DONE IT!

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>>13758794

>> No.13761061

>>13758794
How do I avoid aging like this bros? He looks awful. I'm a S*rboid if it helps.

>> No.13761095
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>>13761061
wear sunscreen every day, eat a mostly vegetarian diet, drink lots of water every day. Also, start to take a little melatonin every night after you hit 30, your body stops producing it as you get older and you want it because combined anti-inflammatory+anti-oxidants like it slow many harmful effects of aging

>> No.13761096

>>13761061
Probably done with FaceApp
>>13758853
>>13761015
Based

>> No.13761109

>>13761061
Just don't be a filthy anglo and you are going to be ok.

>> No.13761111

>>13760935
Retard

>> No.13761639

>>13761061
>S*rboid
Serbian I guess? Unless you're British or Irish you'll be fine.

>> No.13761643

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vXBvEZ7gHDI

>> No.13761666

>>13758923
Speech is, and it is not possible to say that speech is not.

Not speech is not, and it is not possible to say nor think that it is because to do so would be it. All is one, anon

>> No.13761704

>>13761666
Disappointingly sophomoric, Satan.

>> No.13761731

>>13761704
In the timelessness of orgasm to Ruined Holes NO SICFLICS we are One, anon

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13761788

based OP

>> No.13762770

>>13760751

Monism=/=Salafism

>> No.13764435

>Philosophers
R E T R O A C T I V E L Y BTFO my the future ONE

>> No.13766180

Parmenides desu