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Anonymous Mon Sep 2 03:41:59 2019 No.13744452 [DELETED]

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You people keep saying there's no such thing as a nihilist but I found a bunch of them on reddit. Explain yourselves.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 03:49:44 2019 No.13744474

>>13744452
Is it idiotic to think like this? I want to read nihilist lit so bad because I feel itll be liberating but Im hesistant because Im afraid that my mind will rot into something like a generic insufferable edgy defeatist negative high schooler mindset

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 03:54:00 2019 No.13744488 >>13744474 >philosophy where there is no reason not to kill yourself >is it idiotic yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 03:59:06 2019 No.13744501 >>13744452 reddit users are fucking insufferable

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 04:08:36 2019 No.13744516 You don’t find their claims to be nihilists to be suspect on a site where they need an account and obsessively track their own posts for upvotes or flaming? Edit: thanks for the gold guys! Life is meaningless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 04:26:21 2019 No.13744556 >>13744488 There's no reason to kill yourself either, so you just do what you feel like.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 04:35:22 2019 No.13744568 File: 22 KB, 500x607, npcmad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13744488 >SUICIDE = BAD

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 04:36:45 2019 No.13744574 >You people keep saying there's no such thing as a nihilist I don't know who "You people" refers to, but they are dead wrong. You'd better believe nihilists exist, and you'd better believe they are the one and only true enemy in this life.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 04:43:28 2019 No.13744588
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>Nihilism is freedom to me. If nothing really matters and there is no point to existance [sic] then there is possible way to mess it up [sic]. No purpose mean [sic] no chance of failure, hell, there isn't even a definition of failure. Life suddenly has no pressure, so what if i never get a job above entry level, so what if i never buy a house or car? these things are meaningless.
What a pathetic sentiment

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 04:48:12 2019 No.13744594 File: 79 KB, 500x607, npcmad2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13744588 >LOW-PAYING JOB = BAD >NO MORTGAGE = BAD >NO CAR PAYMENT = BAD

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 04:52:32 2019 No.13744609 Nihilism is the start not the end of meaningful existence

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 04:54:20 2019 No.13744612 oh i see nihilism is philosophical anti-anxiety medication

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 05:01:19 2019 No.13744622 >>13744574 It's an argument commonly seen here that nihilism is incoherent and so true nihilists don't actually exist. These people have clearly never read Fight Club (the novel, not the movie).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 05:05:32 2019 No.13744629 >>13744622 The most common argument against nihilism is >Edgy cringe hurr durr grow up!

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 05:15:00 2019 No.13744651
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Self-destruction aside, I feel that nihilism is also a circular argument, even as materialist stance. Is there a book for this feel?

The whole notion of meaning and objective is human-made, or intrinsic to life - you must first be non-nihilist and accept that your own life seeks meaning (on base level, to survive) in order to even start making arguments about meaning.

Something emerges out of chaos by chance, and self-perpetuates. It's no different than black holes. The meaning of blackhole is to swallow stuff, and make it even more blackhole-ish. You can argue there's no meaning to black hole regardless, yet there it is, swallowing stuff, self-defining its own meaning by sheer brute force whether you like it or not.

Same goes for life - self replication, survival, and anything above stemming from that. When you spuriously start claiming the above is meaningless, and act on it, you just erased the carrier for self-defined meaning spuriously, evaporated the black hole.

This is not a reasoned argument against purpose life, as the whole point of life was just being alive to begin with. Arguing that self-definition is meaningless, despite overwhelming intrinsic evidence to contrary, is a Chewbacca prosecution. Sure, when there is nothing, there really is nothing. When there's no life, there really is no meaning as there's nothing left to define it.

But you can't use synthesis to argue that thesis is correct, "therefore" anti-thesis is not. Both are necessary for synthesis to even work in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 05:41:06 2019 No.13744695 Most nihilists are actually unknowing existentialists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 05:46:26 2019 No.13744706 >>13744629 Which is absolutely true. Good luck getting anything worthwhile done when you think nothing is worthwhile.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 05:58:04 2019 No.13744732 >>13744706 I can value things, but it's nothing more than my personal feelings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 06:21:33 2019 No.13744764 >>13744732 Congratulations you are not a nihilist

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 06:23:55 2019 No.13744773 >>13744764 You don't know what nihilism means.

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