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>> No.13739507

Bump

>> No.13739600

>>13739448
Bump for interest

>> No.13739688

>>13739448
What aspect of asceticism are you interested in? Religious or philosophical? A list of commandments or a biography of an ascetic?

>> No.13739966

>>13739688
1.both
2.both

>> No.13739980

Essays in Idleness and Hojoki

>> No.13740961

Bump it

>> No.13740964

>>13739448
just read daoism texts, or better yet, don't read any books and look for meaning only in the natural world

>> No.13740977

Atheist here. I'm interested in works pertaining to materialist asceticism. I do not want to be slave to my body and view asceticism as a way of overcoming many of our evolutionary shortcomings.

>> No.13741014

>>13739980
Can recc this, great book
Hojoki is better though

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>>13740977
>>13739448
The unironic answer is the world as will and representation. If you want to learn why that asceticism is a pointless cope read Nietzsche.

>> No.13741166

>>13739448
my diary desu.

i've taken to eating one healthy meal a day (a sandwich) and trying to drink mostly water. small steps, but i used to be a hedonist brainlet so i think it's pretty good.

>> No.13741175

>>13739448 https://www.mediafire.com/folder/zp2ppnxjwj28c//Cynicism

>> No.13741181

Just write your thoughts in the sand, read them, and meditate until they blow away.

>> No.13741262
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>>13741020
>t. rust cohle before he becomes a born again Christian

>> No.13741432

>>13741262
Ruste Cohle only made the jump from atheistic nihilism to Christian nihilism. Easy to trade a pessimistic life denial for an optimistic life denial.

Nietzsche is about the embrace of life, the engagement with life.

>> No.13741626

isn't 'ascetism' technically a trap? think about it.... the goal of it is to abstain from pleasure. however, the entire point of pursuing asceticism, or achieving any life goal really... is to achieve self-gratification.

>> No.13741641

>>13741432
you need to rewatch the ending.

he realized his nihilism was a childish reaction to his grief, that he exists for a reason, and seemed set upon re-engaging with the world in a way that was not self-destructive

>> No.13741644

>>13739448
>ascetism
huh?

>> No.13741656

>>13741626
Asceticism usually is about not letting physical pleasure dominate you. In large parts because you want to be happier. It is not about becoming miserable.

>> No.13741677

>>13741020
Over indulging in pleasure makes you unhappier.

>> No.13741746

>>13741641
you need to transvaluate all values.

>> No.13741771

>>13741020
>If you want to learn why that asceticism is a pointless cope read Nietzsche.
why is it a pointelss cope ?

>> No.13741794

>>13741746
sounds like some marxist postmodernist bullshit that actually means "everything means nothing to me i do what i want"

>> No.13741800

>>13739448
dokkodo

>> No.13741817

>>13741794
based human cattle

>> No.13741828

>>13741817
>t. cattle in denial
i mean, unless you're out raping and looting and doing meth in public then i guess you're actually holding true to your convictions and not just posing for your own gratification

>> No.13741844

>>13741828
>y-you're probably just as bad as me, so no need to take action in my own life

>> No.13741871

>>13741844
>implying he knows what i do or don't do in my life
wew

go pretend to punch some nazis kiddo

>> No.13741907

>>13741817
>Hedonist calling someone else cattle

>> No.13742344

>>13741907
>>13741871
>life denying cucks literally can't conceive of a positive/creative way of living and on coming into contact with it assume positions of ressentiment and straw man voodoo violence

very, VERY enlightened

>> No.13742459

'you must change your life' by Sloterdijk

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>>13739980
>>13741014

Do you have a particular translation you'd recommend?

>> No.13742863

why did you spell it incorrectly op?>>13739448

>> No.13742882

>>13741644
asstism

>> No.13742901

>>13741020
>why
lmao nietzsche offers no justification for anything he believes

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>>13739448

>> No.13744096

>>13742344
>life accepting cuck cannot use logic

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>>13739966
>>13739980
Hojoki is based, yes.
>>13740964
Yes.
>>13740977
Mao's Red Book unironically. Theres shit that will obviously be irrelevant, just skip it. Epictetus maybe.
>>13741020
Neetzschay only works up to the gay science. He couldn't handle The Greatest Weight and went of the deep end after TSZ. The post Z works are good for a laugh though- if you like laughing at schizos that is. I prefer Pessoa for that though.
>>13741175
Ancient not modern.
>>13741181
Nice. Check out Omar Khayyam, just ditch the wine.
>>13741626
Socrates dissatisfied or a pig satisfied?
>>13741794
He was gonna write 4 books under that title. That is essentially the ubermensch accept he affirms all values and isn't a sulky cunt who bitches from the hills of Sils Maria because hes bitter.
>>13741907
You can be an ascetic and not be a cunt fuck face.
>>13742820
Take what you can get lit. Stop fucking worrying about translations its just a pseud's excuse for not reading.
>>13744096
>Life denying asshat is probably used BY logic.
Not everyone needs to think for themselves I guess.
>>13739448
Don't make me piss on you anon.