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[Anonymous No.13723168]

Which philosophers influenced your world view the most?

[Anonymous No.13723172]

ummm uhhhh buddha

[Anonymous No.13723178]

>>13723168
Camus, rather he reaffirmed what I already believed

[Anonymous No.13723183]

>>13723168
Jung & Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.13723184]

Augustine

[Anonymous No.13723197]

deleuze, marx, whitehead, foucault, blanchot, adorno, benjamin, debord, lefebvre, bateson, nietzsche, montaigne, cioran, the French moralists

[Anonymous No.13723201]

>>13723183
hey, i know you. sure you like plotinus too.

[Anonymous No.13723202]

Kierkegaard, Plato, Mencius

[Anonymous No.13723204]

>>13723201
>plotinus
naw, peterson

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13723214]

There are other influences, but these suffice.

[Anonymous No.13723220]

Me and also myself

[Anonymous No.13723234]

>>13723214
>epicurus
>stirner
Thanks for proving to me that you are a retard butterfly.
I like Stirner views about kikes and niggers though, he was based in that race realist aspect.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13723245]

>>13723234
Clearly you’ve misunderstood and inflated a tiny portion here. No wonder you’re having trouble processing the idea that the three complement each other

[Anonymous No.13723251]

>>13723201
Early Plotinus sure

[Anonymous No.13723255]

>>13723245
>the three complement each other
Damn buttefly, you are making even a bigger fool of yourself. Nietzsche was a huge critic of both stoicism and Stirner.
>imagine reading second sources
I am going to need you to off yourself Butterfly

[Anonymous No.13723262]

Aristotle, Aquinas, Frege, Russell

[Anonymous No.13723265]

>>13723214
No wonder you're so insufferable.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13723281]

>>13723255
0/10 Nietzsche never let on that he even read Stirner out jealousy and/or reapect
>Stoicism
OH! You think Epicurus is Epictetus. Are you even trying or just trying to get me to respond?
Get a life

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13723289]

>>13723281
>reapect
*respect

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !zCus6sgECU No.13723291]

>>13723281
Stop impersonating me and have sex incel.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !zCus6sgECU No.13723294]

>>13723289
Hey newfriend impersonator, you can delete your own messages, you know?

[Anonymous No.13723307]

>>13723214
>no metaphysics in sight
>muh fee fee
into the trash it goes

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !zCus6sgECU No.13723308]

>>13723307
>no metaphysics
>Nietzsche
Have sex incel

[Anonymous No.13723320]

>>13723168
Althusser

[Anonymous No.13723332]

>>13723184
Based

[Anonymous No.13723356]

>>13723168
Michael Kirkbride

[Anonymous No.13723368]

Quite a few. Johannes de Silentio, Anti-Climacus, Victor Eremita; I could go on.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13723372]

>>13723307
Sell me some metaphysic, anon.

[Anonymous No.13723376]

>>13723168
Nietzsche and Jesus Christ

[Anonymous No.13723380]

>>13723368
Based

[Anonymous No.13723388]

Laozi, Heraclitus, Parmenides, Homer

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13723389]

>>13723376
I saw that

[Anonymous No.13723611]

>>13723168
moldbug

[Anonymous No.13723796]

Heraclitus of Ephesus
Lao Tzu

[Anonymous No.13723814]

Jung and... Watts...

[Anonymous No.13723821]

Daddy Marx

[Anonymous No.13723963]

Philosopher I agree with the most is Camus
Philosopher I enjoy reading the most is Michel De Montaigne

[Anonymous No.13724021]

Ludwig Erhard. "Wohlstand für alle" has solid theroies which have also been proven to work in the real work.

He should have added the disclaimer "doesnt work with spinless politicans" becuase thats how his system got destroyed and bloated in Germany over the years

[Anonymous No.13724053]

>>13723821
This is true in quite a lot of corners.

Full-res image:
https://drunksandlampposts.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/philprettyv4.png

[Soren Kierkegaard No.13724067]

>>13723368
Kierkegaard is such a beautiful soul

[Anonymous No.13724170]

Jay Z and Kendrick

[Anonymous No.13724178]

>>13723178
This as well.
I have not read much philosophy but every word from The Stranger, The Myth of Sisiphus and The Plague fits perfectly my outlook of life.

[retard ape No.13724198]

>>13723168
Nerd much? lets go, party rock is in the kitchen tonite..... e,verybody just have a fruit time....and we gon make you lose your mind,. every bod y just have a fruit time.....

[Anonymous No.13724450]

>>13723197
>the most

>>13723214
Read Meister Eckhart

>>13723255
Nietzsche and Stirner tried illuminating the same ideal mindset

>>13723168
Probably a tie between Nietzsche and Wittgenstein

[Anonymous No.13724501]

Peirce

[Anonymous No.13724502]

>>13723372
Is imitating this picture as an arthoe the equivalent of visiting the Mecca as a muslim?

[Anonymous No.13724626]

>>13723168
Nietzsche
> Happiness is dangerous, rage and get mad instead. Cool dude.

Whitehead
> His logical way of thinking is worth learning.

Aristotle
> Still one of the best psychologists of all time. The first one to experiment with Artificial Intelligence too.

Plato
> This guy knows what's up. Most philosophers are just wanna be Platos.

Watts
> Based eastern philosopher, unlike those uber pretentious monks that are too far away from reality.

[Anonymous No.13724646]

>>13723168
Plato, Epictetus and Guenon

[Anonymous No.13724814]

>>13723168
Adolf hitler

[Anonymous No.13724833]

>>13723168
Wittgenstein, Weber, Adorno and McLuhan. I have always seemingly agreed with Kant so I can't say he did much shaping.

[Anonymous No.13724880]

>>13723168
boobs

[Anonymous No.13724895]

>>13723168

Lucie wilde

[Anomynuos No.13724910]

mainlander. i am also unironically considering doing it at 34

[Anonymous No.13725160]

>>13723291
>>13723294
Anon, you're embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous No.13725173]

>>13724910
Kek

[Anonymous No.13725214]

>>13723168
Robert Anton Wilson, he is not a philosopher per se, but he took many many mysticism and translated it to the common man, I get the whole dialectics thing before reading anything by Hegel or Marx thanks to him. Early Wittgenstein is pretty cool too, also Uncle Ted, he made me realize how stupid my behaviour was regarding politics, I was pretty much his leftist archetype, he did to me what Peterson never could.

[Anonymous No.13725225]

>>13723168
Stirner

[Anonymous No.13725248]

plato, spengler, gentile, hitler, linkola, yockey, aquinas

[Anonymous No.13725254]

Not necessarily philosophers:
>Kierkegaard
>Augustine
>Boehme
>Tomberg
>Heidegger
>Ellul

[Anonymous No.13725260]

>>13725248
ur pretty much anti human then arent you anon

[Anonymous No.13725280]

>>13723168
DMT entities, biggest mindfuck in my life. human philosophers are meh, brainlets all of them

[Anonymous No.13725291]

>>13725280
>entheogen kiddie
come back in another year when your pseudo-spiritual afterglow has worn off and we'll see how you feel

[Anonymous No.13725294]

>>13723372
Wtf is wrong with her eyes is she coked out

[Anonymous No.13725349]

>>13723183
YOU FORGAWT DAWSTEROOSKY

[Anonymous No.13725406]

>>13725291
>pseudo-spiritual afterglow
lmao I am a regular user of many years, Ironically only pseuds think entheogens are not a valid way, you probably haven't taken enough or never did. most people never go beyond a small tab of LSD, and LSD is nothing but boring noise.
Tell me, is there a better tool for literal transcendental experiences and revelations? or are you denying that this is what they do? and if it's not a valid way to metaphysical truth in your face what is there then? meditation (relatively ok but slow)? reading some retard like Deleuze or Kant? science? religious practices? all bullshit.
of course it's not for everyone, and not every person can actually dive deep, observe and take it in, contemplate and integrate but your arrogance and thinking that you are "past and outgrew entheogens" is laughable.

[Anonymous No.13725420]

jordan peterson, when i binge his videos im more productive towards my goals

[Anonymous No.13725440]

>>13723245
>How malicious philosophers can be! I know of nothing more venomous than the joke Epicurus permitted himself against Plato and the Platonists; he called them Dionysiokolakes. That means literally—and this is the foreground meaning—"flatterers of Dionysius," in other words, tyrant's baggage and lickspittles; but in addition to this he also wants to say, "they are all actors, there is nothing genuine about them" (for Dionysokolax was a popular name for an actor).1 And the latter is really the malice that Epicurus aimed at Plato: he was peeved by the grandiose manner, the mis en scène2 at which Plato and his disciples were so expert—at which Epicurus was not an expert—he, that old schoolmaster from Samos, who sat, hidden away, in his little garden at Athens and wrote three hundred books—who knows? perhaps from rage and ambition against Plato?

It took a hundred years until Greece found out who this garden god, Epicurus, had been.—Did they found out?
neech on epicurius being a resentful fuck who didn't understand philosophy

[Anonymous No.13725447]

>>13723245
>How malicious philosophers can be! I know of nothing more venomous than the joke Epicurus permitted himself against Plato and the Platonists; he called them Dionysiokolakes. That means literally—and this is the foreground meaning—"flatterers of Dionysius," in other words, tyrant's baggage and lickspittles; but in addition to this he also wants to say, "they are all actors, there is nothing genuine about them" (for Dionysokolax was a popular name for an actor).1 And the latter is really the malice that Epicurus aimed at Plato: he was peeved by the grandiose manner, the mis en scène2 at which Plato and his disciples were so expert—at which Epicurus was not an expert—he, that old schoolmaster from Samos, who sat, hidden away, in his little garden at Athens and wrote three hundred books—who knows? perhaps from rage and ambition against Plato?

>It took a hundred years until Greece found out who this garden god, Epicurus, had been.—Did they found out?
neech on epicurius being a resentful fuck who didn't understand philosophy

[Anonymous No.13725454]

>>13725406
What you're doing is just chasing experiences, there is 0 worthwhile knowledge for you or other people in there. No different from most philosophers as well es meditative practitioners either though, to be fair. Whether you're building metaphysical systems or cultivating formless dhyanas doesn't matter much, it's all the same waste of time, as is talking to the aliens in your mind, be they real or not.

[Anonymous No.13725463]

>>13723214
How is Stirner influential?

[Anonymous No.13725509]

>>13723372

[Anonymous No.13725599]

>>13725454
>what you're doing is just chasing experiences
I was, because I was highly curious and adventurous, that's correct, but now I'm simply enjoying it for what it is.
>there is 0 worthwhile knowledge for you or other people in there.
There is always something new to learn from these experiences, you are being very myopic with this statement.
Please tell me, what is then a "worthwhile knowledge" and how do I get it?

[Anonymous No.13725625]

>>13723168

>ctrl f

> Spinoza 0/0

I am dissapoint

[Anonymous No.13725628]

>>13725294
all zoomers look like that

[Anonymous No.13725672]

>>13723356
based CHIMbro

[Anonymous No.13725678]

>>13723168
My cock

[Anonymous No.13725683]

>>13723245
I’ve seen you posting about having sex and now you post about someone not understanding something when you clearly didn’t understand Epicurus. You’re just a hedonist who uses epicurus to cope with being poor.

[Anonymous No.13725974]

>>13725406
It's not a contest, but, for what it's worth, I've smoked DMT, done 4g mushroom trips, tried 500ug LSD, 5-meo-DMT, 2C-B, mescaline, etc, etc. All of them feel different, DMT the strangest of them all, but they produce the same results. Like what the other poster said, it's experienced and feels substantial, yet it rarely, if ever, gets converted in praxis, save the first handful of trips and the user already going in with the strict intent of altering themselves (notice how burnt-out retards never "find God" on 5 tabs).

[Anonymous No.13726067]

>>13723168
Albert Camus
>dude just fuck mad brown pussy brah

[Anonymous No.13726086]

Taleb, Spengler and Ellul
(I am serious tbqh)

[Anonymous No.13726097]

>>13723168
used to be a generic conservative who became more libertarian over time
then i found out about (neo)marxism and it turned me into more of a theocracy midned authoritarian ironically enough, people like marx and foucault helped me break the liberal conditioning

[Anonymous No.13726166]

Definitely Spengler.

[Anonymous No.13726398]

>Marx
>Stirner
>Land

[Anonymous No.13726420]

>>13725509
what does molyneux have to do with it

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13726654]

>>13725447
Well did they find out?

>>13725463
He influences me

>>13725509
Looked into it. Not too sold on it. Not really judging it, but it does nothing for me.

[Anonymous No.13726744]

>>13723168

Kierkegaard & Cioran

[Anonymous No.13726751]

>>13723168

[Anonymous No.13726754]

>>13725260
i have trouble feeling can,t help but be highly callous

[Anonymous No.13726786]

>>13723168
There's nothing more effeminate then philosophy, except maybe for poetry.

[Anonymous No.13726789]

>>13725214
He's the anti-philosopher. He refreshed thoughts on Logic that have been swept away since the Sophists arrived and misunderstood logos. If you want to get straight on Logic, read him.

[Anonymous No.13726827]

Heidegger because I've already experienced Angst when I was a kid, the first part and history got me immensely interested but I finally lost to the Hegel chapter, can't wait to read it again and go deeper into his thoughts. Kant got me interested in philosophy and I am enjoying reading Hegel so far
reading philosophy is becoming less and less of a hassle, I'm starting to love the journey

[Anonymous No.13727034]

>>13723168
Spengler. Hands down.

[Anonymous No.13727041]

hiegel

[Anonymous No.13727057]

>>13727034
>>13726166
>>13726086
>>13725248

Spengler is the new cool kid answer I guess. If you pick Neechee, you're too basic. If you pick Stirner, you're le edgee meem man. King of the dilettantes. Go read Weber, you'll get a lot more out of it and you'll get the first eight chapters of DTW in two chapters and written far less Byzantine. I feel like Spengler was the Jordan Peterson of the fucking l'belle epoque.

Nasty little noreaders.

[Anonymous No.13727067]

>>13725625
I thought this too. Also, what about Berkley? I know no one here is an actual immaterialist, but he drew the line between subjective and objective reality better than anyone before or since.

[Anonymous No.13727069]

>>13726786

>There's nothing more effeminate then philosophy, except maybe for poetry.

Clearly one isn't born without a biological mother, then the rib taken from man could be transfiguratively philosophy and poetry could be a form of art that life imitates.

[Anonymous No.13727136]

The one that is resonating with me the most has been Michel Foucault.

[Anonymous No.13727146]

>Neet, Sartre, Jung, Whitehead, Kierky
I have a lot more to read desu

[Anonymous No.13727150]

>Nietzsche, Sartre, Jung, Whitehead, Kierkegaard
I have a lot more to read desu

[Anonymous No.13727203]

>>13724053
What is that?

[Anonymous No.13727205]

>>13724053
What is that?

[Anonymous No.13727209]

>>13724053
You have the high res one with a white background?

[Anonymous No.13727536]

>>13723262
>Aristotle, Aquinas, Frege,
Holy based and redp-
>Russell
OK that was bait.

[Anonymous No.13727792]

>>13723255
>Damn buttefly, you are making even a bigger fool of yourself. Nietzsche was a huge critic of both stoicism and Stirner.
Nietzsche may have criticized stoicism for making stuff up on the "living according to nature" and epircurus for coping about plato, but his philosophy is literally a more in depth version of Stirner and had his works in his library and in his "recommended reading".
Shitting down on Stirner and praising Nietzsche is literally impossible since Nietzsche simply makes a more indepth look at his ideas, adds some psychology, expanding the "I" and the "ego" into a multitude of wills and tries to apply it to aristocratic society instead of calling for a union of egoists society, since the plebe is all about wanting to serve.

>>13725463
Influenced Nietzsche and a whole lot of other philosophers.

[Anonymous No.13727858]

>>13723168
Popper camus schumpeter levy-strauss

[Anonymous No.13727866]

>>13723168
buddha, zizek, kierkegaard & buber

[Anonymous No.13727870]

Schopenhauer
Cioran
Zapffe
Kaczynski

[Anonymous No.13727902]

>>13723168
Plato, Plotinus, Augustine, Anselm, Kant, Adi Shankara

[Anonymous No.13728145]

Epicurus, Aristotle, Locke, Rousseau, Paine, Hume, Kant, Mill, Hobhouse, Rawls, Harry G. Frankfurt, and Philip Pettit.

[Anonymous No.13728286]

>>13723168
Stefan Molyneux

[Anonymous No.13728569]

>>13723168
Aristotle, Nietzsche and Heidegger

The Heidegger part is both a blessing and a cursing as I can't really think outside of his framework in most philosophical issues

[Anonymous No.13728761]

>>13727057
i read Weber you fucking imbecile. its just that Spengler is much more accurate than Weber, Nietzsche and many others and his texts are more practical than Schopenhauer, Heidegger, Kant and many other philosophers.
Also his writing style is godlike, learn to read German, fat amerimut.

[Anonymous No.13729331]

>>13728761
Dawg you save images of k-pop creatures do you even know what human beings behave like?

[Anonymous No.13729752]

>>13723168
Laozi

[Anonymous No.13729812]

>>13728761
based sharkman

[Anonymous No.13730894]

Novalis

[Anonymous No.13731461]

>>13727034
This. Read Kissinger's Dissertation.

[Anonymous No.13731478]

Christ, St. Paul, Justin Martyr, Origen, Plato, Plotinus, Augustine, Kierkegaard, Aquinas, Eckhart

[Anonymous No.13732287]

>>13731478
... wow, just wow

[Anonymous No.13732521]

Can't quite say, but probable Stirner.

With a little indirection, maybe Marx is a better answer. (Basically, anybody with a major impact on society as a whole has huge indirect influence.) And btw. this is not to say I support Marx ideas (nor does it say the opposite), I strictly speak of influence

[Anonymous No.13732921]

Instead of claiming any one philosopher as my main influence, I will use a few important concepts that my worldview is founded upon:
1. Neither human reason nor judgement can explain everything about the world.
2. Truth is that which is tautological and self-evident.
3. Total difference and total sameness do not exist.
4. Realizing moral good is more praiseworthy than great, heroic actions
5. Accepting one premise is not equal to accepting an entire argument.
6. In regards to the universe, one may desire to seek objective truth, but in regards to society, one may only find intersubjective truths.

[Anonymous No.13732924]

Plato, Kant, Nietzsche, Dogen, UG Krishnamurti and Wittgenstein.

[Anonymous No.13732949]

>>13724626
>picks Watts over Jung
Are you fucking retarded? Watts just follows basic Jungianism to its basic conclusions in areas Jung himself never specifically mentioned - that is when he is writing something 'unique' and not just rephrasing the exact past thoughts of Jung.

[Anonymous No.13732951]

>>13726654
>Looked into it. Not too sold on it. Not really judging it, but it does nothing for me.
Typical 'woman'.

[Anonymous No.13733037]

>>13723214
mfw people think Stirner was an atheist
mfw they think his "the unique one" refers to the individual when actually it can only be God

[Anonymous No.13733078]

>>13723168
Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

[Anonymous No.13733345]

>>13727057
Weber was an optimist, and he failed to predict the increasing abstraction of money as Spengler did. Their economic views are in opposition, Weber thought capitalism was rational, Spengler thought it was irrational, and that Western currency would eventually be forced to drop the gold standard in the typically Faustian irrational pursuit of abstraction in the economic realm, not to mention the appearance of Bitcoin. The global economic depressions that have not only become commonplace but are seen as a necessary counterpart of the current economic system (which will eventually climax and destroy itself) prove Weber wrong and Spengler right.

[Anonymous No.13733386]

i don't read philosophy: i have intuited on my own whatever knowledge across which i have come

[Anonymous No.13733477]

>>13723168
Tifa is much more fit than this.

[Anonymous No.13733971]

>>13723168
None of them, philosophers are all full of bullshit.

[Anonymous No.13735053]

>>13727057
Ameri-mutt troll posting.

[Anonymous No.13735172]

>>13723168
Camus in high school; Aristotle, Kant, Carroll and Sibley in college.

Wonderful times...

[Anonymous No.13735294]

>>13733078
Preach

[Anonymous No.13736912]

My parents. They taught me and demonstrated to me right from wrong from their actions and their inactions. Inactions being the observed state of what they did not do, what they coped, and what, I decided, would not do myself in response to such a situation. To state any more than that would be an insane mode of being compelled by forces internal that which have no consistency nor bearing such that it give the authority to sway my opinions and thoughts in such a way that it might influence my decision making calculus. My thoughts are mine alone, and the ones developed based on my parents and the functions of such. I have paid no mind as to who else echoed such thoughts, for I haven't read them, and therefore, they haven't influenced me, but rather, exist as islands through which the innate global consciousness known as the primordial soup through which all knowledge and morals might be connected would be my influence. If there were a point at which I might have a defined philosophical moment to which brought a most errant schism between the ideas and knowledge of my parents and that of myself, then it would be boiled to the prospect of work. While toiling in an occupation I had the least fondness for, my mother, in her high hopes of curing my dower mood, thought to consider my work as work unto the Lord. I was utterly disgusted. To think the culmination to which I might deliver onto some godless mechanical beast that ate up the invaluable resource of time and gave only the the slightly more than worthless resource meant to sustain living was at all an extension of my passion and love for what my be considered totally supernatural and incomparable to anything on this plane of existence created by man, was a total betrayal of anything I thought to be divine and to be holy. It seemed to ring of the lives of the countless individuals met through life who endlessly justify their poor iterations of life through saying it might be delivered into it a better chance to simply create a better future for their children or for the Lord, rather than a better reality for themselves.

[Anonymous No.13736953]

>>13732949
Jung is a pretentious Freud wannabe retard who believes in superpowers.

[Anonymous No.13737158]

>>13723197
Wow you sure can list people

[Anonymous No.13738183]

>>13723168
Meh

[Anonymous No.13738479]

>>13725254
Is Boehme hard to read? Is it a case of understanding and knowing the symbolism he references or is the prose itself difficult?

[Anonymous No.13738490]

>>13725406
>Kant, a retard
Stay taking your drugs brainlet, leave the philosophising to the big boys. I've both done high doses of hallucinogenics, and read Kant, and I assure you the latter is much more impactful on anyone with an IQ north of 120.