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[Anonymous No.13667122]

Can we make a stoicism flowchart?

[Anonymous No.13667129]

>stoicism

[Anonymous No.13667143]

>needing a flowchart for the most accessible basic bitch philosophy “““philosophy”””

[Anonymous No.13667152]

>>13667122
Not much to make a chart about.
Seneca -> Epictetus -> Aurelius and possibly read something about the cynic philosophers if you want background.

[Anonymous No.13667156]

It's called REBT "rational emotive behavioral therapy"

The ABCDE model

[Anonymous No.13667661]

>>13667122
Cynics > Xeno > Seneca > Marcus

[Anonymous No.13667692]

[Anonymous No.13667746]

>>13667122
There are really only 3 authors to read, Seneca, Epictetus, and Marcus Aurelius. You can search the Suda for bits and pieces about stoicism, or Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers, but unfortunately the foundational philosophers, Zeno, Cleanthes, and Chrysippus, have no extant writings.

[Anonymous No.13667781]

>>13667122

stoicism is for normies


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegesias_of_Cyrene
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3751954?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

you ever heard of the death persuader?

[Anonymous No.13667836]

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/14988

[Anonymous No.13667846]

>>13667122
Watch some shitty self-help youtuber - > watch your wife having sex with other men

You're welcome OP

[Anonymous No.13667853]

>>13667122
This is the start position.

[Anonymous No.13667913]

the stoics were a bunch of natatist faggots no different from the average greek.
nothing of what they said was profound or thought-provoking.

>live a life of virtue according to nature

this is a meaningless philosophy. nature is not virtuous. have you seen what animals do to one another in nature? to be virtuous you have go against nature not acquiesce to it.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegesias_of_Cyrene

the only good greek philosopher. unfortunately none of his writings survived. he was banned from speaking in alexandria for saying death is better than life

[Anonymous No.13667940]

stoics on atheism

they saw it as a negative

[Anonymous No.13667962]

>>13667692
Perfect, spbp

[Anonymous No.13668004]

>>13667129
This kind of guy likely hates Stoicism. Stoicism is very traditionalist.

>>13667746
There is Musonius too, but to understand what Musonius says you need to have a grasp of Stoicism, otherwise you will ask why in the hell he is saying what he says.

I think Epictetus and Cicero (who was not a Stoic) is a good combination.

[Anonymous No.13668016]

>>13668004
stoicism is hipster bugman self-help

[Anonymous No.13668043]

>>13668016
They don't even read self-help. They're content with their life. They consume content and look forward to the steady stream of content yet to be released.

[Anonymous No.13668130]

so how do you cultivate it

[Anonymous No.13668223]

>>13668016
Bugmen are consumerist, Stoicism is not consumerist at all.

[Anonymous No.13668274]

so according to the stoics, i have no friends because i am a wicked man lol

[Anonymous No.13668281]

>>13668274
normies don't have friends either, not according to the way a greek philosopher would understand it.

[Anonymous No.13668326]

>>13668274
That's obviously true Anon, did you need fucking Marcus Aurelius to tell you?

[Anonymous No.13668333]

>>13667913
oh my g-d have sex you sad fuck

[Anonymous No.13668342]

>>13668333

if it's not a 10 asian girl, there is no point. i would still be depressed after fucking a white girl

[Anonymous No.13668352]

>>13668326
Haha what a disgusting set of ideas, very interesting

[Anonymous No.13668363]

>>13668342
Is she a chuuni?

[Anonymous No.13668427]

>>13668363

what is 2nd year old junior high in japan? high school?

[Anonymous No.13668429]

>>13668427

2nd year of junior high*

[Anonymous No.13669206]

>>13668274
Read letters from a stoic - seneca, stoics don't need friends, but they understand the benefit of having them, and value the ability to maintain/have friends.