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Why do people on this board hate this book? Is it because it's not DEEP like muh republic? Is just simple fun something bad?

>> No.13664939

>>13664900
>Why do people on this board hate this book?
we don't but posts like yours is why some people might dislike it

>> No.13664979

I don't think the absurdity is very funny or clever, especially when it has nothing to do with plot or character development. The book has nothing interesting to say because the absurdity is truly random an so it isn't in service to anything.

Not that it matters but the sort of people who like this book are very obnoxious to me. Look at how the OP writes "muh republic." He has to be in his teens.

>> No.13665023

>>13664900
>rick and morty the book
>why do people hate it?

>> No.13665037

>>13664900
you just had to find the biggest söy cover of it, right?

>> No.13665040

>muh randumb xD
pass

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>>13664900
>Is just simple fun something bad?
People glorify simple fun as if it had some superlative value in itself independently of any consideration of another order

>> No.13665063

>>13664979
Actually the absurdity is all very much at the expense of various kinds of theism, which also explains why a christlarping board like /lit/ is going to reject ot

>> No.13665066

>>13665040
...

>> No.13665092

>>13665063
How is random absurdity a contradiction to theism?

>> No.13665096

I think the intro is a really good metaphor for dealing with an existential crisis. most of us will have to deal with aliens paving over our world for the greater good and what comes after is really what you should be looking for

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>>13665063
>muh social commentary on muh ebil religiun and muh ebil totalitarianism
If your book is any of those then literally an hero you fucking faggot. and go suck a dick since there is no skygrandpa nor literallyhitler to stop you now. hope you die. retard nigger bitch

>> No.13665143

>>13665092
Because the very idea of “randomness” goes directly against the logic of god possessing omniscience. Random and predetermined events cannot coexist if everything moves according to God’s plan. Adams uses the absurd nature of the universe to highlight why the imposition of a God is actually a way of disenchanting something that is already unfathomable by making it concrete, accessible and personal.

>> No.13665157

>>13665131
I don’t even like Adams, I’m just aware of the context that surrounds the book. Imagine being so ideologically warped that a totally neutral post makes up seethe THIS hard

>> No.13665161

>>13665143
Randomness is relative to our perspective. What appears random to us is not necessarily random or random for God.

>> No.13665170

>>13665161
Yes I’m well aware of the theological arguments against it, I’m just explaining what Adams is trying to by utilising the absurd. Im agnostic so I don’t see much point in defending dated atheistic arguments

>> No.13665191

>>13665170
You're saying randomness is contradictory to theism but this isn't true. Randomness isn't truly random but even if it was that doesn't necessarily mean there isn't a purpose for it. There could be a God in the Hitchhiker's universe and canonically there is.

>> No.13665208

I could have simple fun rolling a tire down the road with a stick why would I waste time on reading a book about it

>> No.13665238

>>13665191
I’m saying ADAMS thinks that randomness is contrary to god’s existence, because either randomness exists or God does. Like you said, the random in a theistic universe is simply a projection of the human onto god’s divine plan, so therefore a God in a random universe is equally as impossible, right?

>there could be a God in the hitchhiker universe and canonically there is
You mean the man in the shack? I’d say it’s pretty obvious he’s doing it to heighten the absurdity even further.

>> No.13665265

>>13664939
/thread

>> No.13665269

>>13664900
Christians. Fuckfases hate anything atheists make, the more popular the more hate. They’re joyless cunts

>>13665023
Take it back

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>>13665269
“Would it save you a lot of time if I just gave up and went mad now?” ...

>> No.13665364

>>13664979
The absurdity does follow it's plot though. It's interesting to see how all these random events somehow end up being connected.

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>>13665316
Your memes have no effect here, frat boy

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>>13665371
“So this is it," said Arthur, "We are going to die."
"Yes," said Ford, "except... no! Wait a minute!" He suddenly lunged across the chamber at something behind Arthur's line of vision. "What's this switch?" he cried.
"What? Where?" cried Arthur, twisting round.
"No, I was only fooling," said Ford, "we are going to die after all.”
>you know in your heart ,the truth

>> No.13665688

>>13664900
this book is for retards.
/thread

>> No.13665718

>>13664900
This book didn't leave any strong impression on me but I didn't hate it. I did hate all the sequels. Should've been an one of.

>> No.13665795

>>13664900
i just dont like how pop it is. robert sheckley did it first anyways

>> No.13666155 [DELETED] 

>>13665131
>muh social commentary on muh ebil religiun and muh ebil totalitarianism
I feel like big part of why people on this site have issues with it nowadays is that we are talking about social commentary from 40 years ago when christianity was still much more important in the generally western and specifically western european public, and you actually offended people with such blatant display of atheism.

For example the big scandal regarding Monty Python's "Life of Brian" created at virtually the same time would be near totally unimaginable nowadays:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKWVuye1YE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asUyK6JWt9U

>> No.13666167

>>13664900
It's pretty boring.

>> No.13666175

>>13665131
>muh social commentary on muh ebil religiun and muh ebil totalitarianism
I feel like big part of why people on this site have issues with it nowadays is that we are talking about social commentary from 40 years ago when christianity was still much more important in the generally western and specifically western european public, and you actually offended people with such blatant display of atheism.
For example the big scandal Monty Python's "Life of Brian" created at virtually the same time, as perfect example, would be near totally unimaginable today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKWVuye1YE [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asUyK6JWt9U [Embed]

>> No.13666310

>>13664900
Because it isn't a book...

>> No.13666353

>>13664900
Because it's low brow british humor. The kind of stuff that insufferable high school and college kids who won't stop quoting Monty Python and the Holy Grail enjoy.

>> No.13666475

>>13666310
That's right, 'twas a radio show

>> No.13666506

>>13664900
I didn't really mind the book, but the people who like it are annoying. It's very much in the wheel house of a cynical teenager who thinks being snide about everything makes them intelligent.

>> No.13666531

>>13666353
The thing is that Hitchhiker basically is just Monty Python in book form. It feels less special when you think of it like that. The Atheism is explored in an overly simplistic way as well.

Overall, it's definitely a book that's funny at points, but it's arguably a candidate for the most overrated book of all time. Reddit considers this book the single greatest of all time-- I have no idea how anyone can consider it the GOAT unless they're not very well read.

>> No.13667758

>>13664900
because it has the most annoying fanbase ever
aside from the quran and the bible

>> No.13668007

>>13664979
>The book has nothing interesting to say
It's a satirical commentary of modern life. Some people like that sort of thing, some don't.

>> No.13668069

>>13665269
tripfags deserve to be gassed

(You)

>> No.13668338

>>13666531
>Reddit considers this book the single greatest of all time-- I have no idea how anyone can consider it the GOAT unless they're not very well read.
It's R*ddit we are speaking of after all.

>> No.13668345

>>13664900
Because it's only slightly better than being the literary version of Elon Musk

>> No.13668476

>>13665269
Christians have the joy of the Lord

>> No.13668966

That’s a terrible cover OP, but I got the big collection of all the books with some of his other writing when I was like 7 and I read through it all an easy 10-12 times until middle school.

At the same time I was also digesting Adams’ nonfiction work, most of which was collected in “The Salmon of Doubt”, and very much formulating a juvenile expression of atheism, because I did not know spirituality could be discussed in such intellectual terms as a youth. I’ve since moved past that, but I give absolute credit to Hitchhikers and Adams for getting me into literature as a child, and it’s something I hope I can share with my children one day.

I only wish he had finished the Dirk Gentley series and had lived to see what his early ideas about video games grew up to become — anyway, Discworld is superior in terms of wittiness and literary content.

>> No.13668980

>>13668966
>Discworld
Isn't that the Reddit Pratched faggotry stravaganza?

>> No.13669001

>>13668980
discworld is based bro..

>> No.13669002

Hitchhiker's decent, but it was his peak. The rest of his work is just boring and repetetive. Same shit as Pratchett, shit gets cliched fast. Good strategy to sell out as a writer I guess.

>> No.13669014

>>13669002
to be fair, Adams only wrote like 4 Hitchhiker's books. Pratchet wrote dozens of Discworld books.

>> No.13669021

In another of Douglas Adams' books, the gods sold their powers to managers in exchange for clean linens in an assisted living facility, which is a metaphor for what the White nations were doing.

>> No.13669030

>>13664900
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>> No.13669045

>>13669021
yea dude Adams had some fun ideas, I mean the later hitchhiker books have absolutely accurate takes on society and he has a keynote speech, I can’t find it now since it’s been so long, where it’s just him shitting on Dawkins, Hitchens, other prominent atheists lol

>> No.13669113

>>13669030
This is a bit unfair. Adams was a legit dada stylist - that is, random metaphors for real stuff. Penguin of doom is just randomness for random's sake with no intent to have a thread of original content underneath whatsoever.

>> No.13669117

>>13664900
This is Reddit: the book (and that's a bad thing)

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