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13636196 No.13636196 [Reply] [Original]

You will undoubtedly be shocked to hear that, in this issue, we still have not deigned to publish a white fucking male! ;) This is of course, as always, organic and merited.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/issue/150215/july-august-2019

>> No.13636199

>>13636196
Just look at those fucking names lmfao what on earth

>> No.13636714

>>13636196
>it's real
Come on, someone fucking push back against this shit
This is clear racism and nobody's doing anything, just silently taking it.

>> No.13637415

>>13636196
"Black Notes on Genre for My Beloved" was pretty good, desu senpai.

>> No.13638381

Shut the fuck up, snowflake

>> No.13638398

>>13636196
theyre not actually terrible. way better than the shit in the new yorker

but yeah le white male and all. itll end some day, one side or the other will shed a lot of blood

>> No.13638471

>>13636196
That's a really neat cover design.

>> No.13638511

>>13636196
I hope you're not really this dumb, OP. Poetry Magazine has been around since 1912, and has published untold thousands of white males. This latest issue happens to be a themed one on global anglophone Indian poems. If you look at basically any other fucking issue, you'll see plenty of comforting white-sounding surnames and first names implying penis possession. And if you look through their past archives, you'll see William Butler Yeats, William Carlos Williams, Joyce Kilmer, Carl Sandburg, Charlotte Wilder, Robert Creeley, Wallace Stevens, Basil Bunting, Yone Noguchi, Carl Rakosi, Dorothy Richardson, Peter Viereck, Louis Zukofsky, Charles Reznikoff, E. E. Cummings, Frank O'Hara, Allen Ginsberg, Ernest Hemingway, James Joyce, Gertrude Stein, and Tennessee Williams, Max Michelson, etc.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/archive

>> No.13638566

>>13638511
The left really started pushing hard against whites around 2015.

In 2018 they published 3 poems from white males, 1 from a jew, well Torrin A. Greathouse seems to be a transexual white female (male).

What happened in 1983 is not really relevant in most ways and it's rather telling if they used to publish mainly white poets and then suddenly stopped.

>> No.13638576

> It was formed from Poetry magazine, which it continues to publish, with a 2003 gift of $200 million from philanthropist Ruth Lilly.

Sounds like they're funded by some female philanthropist not from the government so they can publish whoever the fuck they please

>> No.13638596

>>13638566
If you look at the table of contents from just the previous month's issue, you can see plenty of (I presume) white male names.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/issue/150026/june-2019

>> No.13638633

>>13638566
>In 2018 they published 3 poems from white males
Utter bullshit.

>> No.13639939

>>13636196
The cover even looks like trash. This is why poetry sucks.

>> No.13639997

>>13636196
A comment like that makes me want to really dislike it, but I actually think this one's somewhat interesting. I'm tired of this style, but the imagery is pretty good and all the pieces seem fitting, even if despondent.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/150250/what-lights-up

>> No.13640013 [DELETED] 

>>13638511
What they did historically is obviously irrelevant you total brainlet, and this
>If you look at basically any other fucking issue, you'll see plenty of comforting white-sounding surnames and first names implying penis possession.
is completely false. OP is right, white males are very, very rarely published by poetry, and when they are, which is again, rarely, they're almost always veterans of the game with the clout to have been grandfathered in despite the anti white male sentiment.
I'm acquainted with some of the slush readers at poetry, I move in the Chicago literary scene. Trust me, OP is right.

>> No.13640045

>>13637415
>>13638398
>>13639997
The quality is hardly relevant to the point, rationaltards.

>> No.13640049
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13640049

Meanwhile, at the New Yorker

Now here, I’m confident, is a discerning editor without an agenda

>> No.13640062

>>13636196
>>13638596
What’s really horrendous is that they all have the exact same style lmao

>> No.13640067

>>13638381
You’re getting replaced, but at least you were cool about it.

>> No.13640086

>>13638511
Is that you, Butterfly?

>> No.13640110

>>13638511
Their past history is hardly relevant you total brainlet, the point is very clearly that they’ve begun discriminating against white males in recent years, themed issue aside. This
>If you look at basically any other fucking issue, you'll see plenty of comforting white-sounding surnames and first names implying penis possession.
is totally false, it’s 50/50 in an issue at best, more often 20/50, which is not organic at all. White people are still the majority in the West, are still the best educated, and are still the same race that has been dominating the canon since its inception by white hands. But suddenly we’re minorities on the literary scene. Checks out.

>> No.13640128

>>13636714
would it be racism if the opposite were true?
would you care if it was?
lets say that they intentionally chose all white poets for an issue. would you say it was racist?
my money is that you wouldn't care and wouldn't say anything and would continue not to read anything from Poetry Foundation

>> No.13640139

>>13640128
complete idiot. the socratic method doesn’t work in disabled hands.
>would it be racism if the opposite were true?
that would be an accurate representation of the demographics you total retard, which is the whole point
>lets say that they intentionally chose all white poets for an issue. would you say it was racist?
what? you think a publication openly discriminating against minorities wouldn’t receive serious hashtag backlash? how are you still alive being this dumb?

>> No.13640145

>>13640128
>Yeah maybe they’re discriminating against white people but like, what it they discriminated against minorities? Like, wouldn’t you feel dumb?
What?

>> No.13640156

>>13640139
>accurate representation of demographics
meaning that the majority of publishable poets are whites?
>hashtag backlash
is this important when i was asking whether or not the person i was replying to would find the situation racist. i didnt ask regarding the public, but him specifically.
>how are you still alive?
against my best wishes, i still live and breathe

>> No.13640165

>>13640156
>meaning that the majority of publishable poets are whites?
... that is indeed what it would mean, you really dispute that?

>> No.13640171

>>13640110
I'm sorry kid, but you're too fucking stupid and racist to continue talking with. Have a nice night.

>> No.13640175

>>13640110
> it’s 50/50 in an issue at best, more often 20/50
what did he mean by this

>> No.13640185

>>13640171
lmao I bet

>> No.13640193

>>13640171
Yeah if only I could be so high IQ as to go on about who they published in the early 1900s when the concern is contemporary, then maybe I’d see the world as clearly as you.

>> No.13640721

>>13640175
His vision or IQ?

>> No.13640908

>>13636196
>People think this shit never happened in the past
The greatest works of the ancients were burned.
Aristotle was a "diversity hire" and the greatest philosopher of the Greeks died anonymous in a ditch