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Be honest with me /lit/. Is heaven a real place?

>> No.13630298

>>13630294
Heaven
Heaven is a place
A place where nothing
Nothing ever happens

>> No.13630304

>>13630294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2WhbTyvLYU

>> No.13630311

Yes
You can find it between a virgin girl's legs

>> No.13630321

>>13630294
No. Do you have any other question?

>>13630311
>a virgin girl
Since in contemporary society any girl older than 12 has already popped the cherry, you have just outed yourself as a pedo. Congrats.

>> No.13630336

>>13630311
I prefer a mouth. But all right

>> No.13630642

>>13630298
This song has made me cry

>> No.13630643

>>13630321
God is that really what you believe?

>> No.13630674

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-78iw3XdGk

>> No.13630695

Heaven is the primal intuition that whatever process that is your consciousness, will feel better without a body.

Hell is the alternative primal intuition that your consciousness will feel worse without a body.

The description of death is just a flailing attempt to describe a process that will happen without biological cognitive rationality.

>> No.13630696

>>13630643
It’s definitely the truth, 10 year olds are already getting slutty

>> No.13630720

>>13630643
>God
Yes my son. 12 year old girls are being fucked. This is the world you fought for.

>> No.13630729

>>13630642
David Byrne is a genius, but Tina Weymouth is a genius of love.
This Must Be the Place can still make me tear up sometimes.

>> No.13630743

>>13630695

Where'd you pull that one from

>> No.13630756

>>13630743
There is enough documentation that humans have some level of basic foresight. We can feel, to a limited extent, the consequences of reality and our lives.

Our genetic evolution hasn't left us completely in the dark, we can at least navigate through time and space with some amount of accuracy and acumen.

There is probably a sliver of truth in our predictions of what happens after death... and only a mere sliver.

Our conscious process is probably retained to a minimal extent as much as any bacterial cultural or radiation... and we may foresee that with delusion added in the mix.

>> No.13630804

for the common man? it's an implied threat. "if you don't do what I say, sky daddy won't let you live in his sky mansion with him after you die!!!"
for anyone with any knowledge in theology? it's a metaphor, nothing more. God will just recycle your soul when you die, and the point of "heaven" is realizing that the universe is literally the domain (if not the body) of God. we're already in "heaven", and we will go there when we die

>> No.13630827

>>13630804
By that logic, God is heaven itself and there is no place to "go" if the universe we live in is the body of god.

>> No.13630835

>>13630804
that dont sound like heaven.

>> No.13630836

>>13630827
>God is heaven
but I thought the Father and the Son were different?
>there is no place to "go" if the universe we live in is the body of god
correct, he recycles our souls into new people

>> No.13630860

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

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13630904

>>13630294
According to Urantia the Heaven is the central universe named Havona 'of enormous dimensions and almost unbelievable mass and consists of one billion spheres of unimagined beauty and superb grandeur'.

These planets can hundreds of times bigger than the Sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzA6ua37ILk

>> No.13630908

>>13630643
Incels actually believe that. It's incomprehensible to them that women human beings with variations in behavior.

>> No.13630909

>>13630904
what is this neopagan shit

>> No.13630929

>>13630321
Yes I plan to marry a pre-pubescent girl, how did you know?

>> No.13630937

>>13630294
Yes

>> No.13630938

>>13630904
cringe, looks straight out of a third-rate anime

>> No.13630939

>>13630929
By your religion, Muhammad

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13630993

Yes.

>> No.13630997
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13630997

>>13630294

Without the brain(where consciousness is stored) there is no you; therefore, there is no afterlife

Saying a person survives after the brain dies is like saying data from a harddrive survive even though the harddrive was smashed and completely destroyed

to be a theist, you have to believe in all this other nutty shit along with it(such as heaven and hell, demons, angels, etc). this is why i could never be religious. i'll die as an atheist

>> No.13631000

>>13630997

harddrive survives*

>> No.13631001

>>13630294
Yes

>> No.13631021

>>13630997
The brain is a medium, and a conduit, not an end in itself. Consciousness is an interface of Soul that supersists beyond the biophysical barrier. You are spiritually deficient, and this causes you to be fatalistically materialistic.

>> No.13631023

Someone who believes in an afterlife has to explain to me how you can have consciousness without a brain. what is the purpose of a brain if you don't need it for consciousness?
when autistic people go to heaven, do they go to heaven autistic or neurotypical? if neurotypical then they are not the same people they were when they were autistic on this planet.


The concept of heaven is an extremely dumb belief. it requires more faith than believing in a God.

>> No.13631037

>>13631021

the soul is a mythological concept and doesn't actually exist. people were ignorant of neuro-science back then and had to explain where memories, personality and all that shit came from.
we know that the brain contains those things.
if the soul contained those things then people with brain damage would still be able to function despite the brain damage.

spirituality is for morons

>> No.13631049

just because spirituality makes you happy and gives you meaning and purpose doesn't make it true. it's all based on wishful-thinking and is a coping strategy to help with living on this shit planet

>> No.13631054

people with brain damage are like half dead half alive in my opinion. they lost a part of themselves. is that dead half in heaven while their alive half is still on earth?

>> No.13631056

Isn't heaven in direct conflict with resurrection?

>> No.13631078

>>13630294
Heaven is a place on Earth

>> No.13631129 [DELETED] 

>>13631023
>Someone who believes in an afterlife has to explain to me how you can have consciousness without a brain.
The real concern should be regarding what can be done for individuals to stop wilfully secluding themselves, and their cognition, to within the material spectrum.

>what is the purpose of a brain if you don't need it for consciousness?
The brain is required for consciousness to function on a neuropsykhical, and biophysical, level.

>when autistic people go to heaven, do they go to heaven autistic or neurotypical?
Their autistic traits become transfigured, and sublimated/perfected. Autism is a benevolant mutation; of all - autistic individual is fastest in mediation, and wisest in understanding - autistic individual comprehends, and commands, multitudinous image.


>The concept of heaven is an extremely dumb belief. it requires more faith than believing in a God.
Contrarily: one who believes in God knows that there is Heaven.

>if the soul contained those things then people with brain damage would still be able to function despite the brain damage.
Your post contains a non seqvitvr.

>> No.13631133

>>13631023
>Someone who believes in an afterlife has to explain to me how you can have consciousness without a brain.
The real concern should be regarding what can be done for individuals to stop wilfully secluding themselves, and their cognition, to within the material spectrum.

>what is the purpose of a brain if you don't need it for consciousness?
The brain is required for consciousness to function on a neuropsykhical, and biophysical, level.

>when autistic people go to heaven, do they go to heaven autistic or neurotypical?
Their autistic traits become transfigured, and sublimated/perfected. Autism is a benevolant mutation; of all - autistic individual is fastest in mediation, and wisest in understanding - autistic individual comprehends, and commands, multitudinous image.

>The concept of heaven is an extremely dumb belief. it requires more faith than believing in a God.
Contrarily: one who believes in God knows that there is Heaven.

>>13631037
>if the soul contained those things then people with brain damage would still be able to function despite the brain damage.
Your post contains a non seqvitvr.

>> No.13631138

>>13631037
we've already seen in modern science that the laws of classical physics only work in certain areas.
>spirituality is for morons
Then enjoy living miserable. Mindset influences your world and synchronizes with other people. If you think like >>13631049 and believe in stupid shit like antinatalism then you're living on a narrative yourselves. Intuition brought us religion and religion brought us science. We'll have to break through what seems impossible to get to the next thing

>> No.13631139

>>13631133
>benevolant
*benevolent

>> No.13631173

It's not a tangible place but a state of mind instead.

>> No.13631619

>>13630294
Heaven is used in two important senses.

1. “Our Father who art in Heaven”: Heaven in this sense is the spiritual realm outside of space and time where the angels and saints live in perfect harmony with God, and are thus deprived of nothing. We can only get slight foretastes of what this Heaven is like through deep contemplative prayer.
2. “The Kingdom of God/Heaven is within you/in your midst”: this sense refers to the reality that all believers who come to know and love God on Earth become temples of his Spirit. Heaven literally reigns within them. Such a person is “the new man.”

>> No.13631742

>>13630804
>for anyone with any knowledge in theology?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

>> No.13631743

>>13630294
Ooh, baby, do you know what that's worth?
Ooh, heaven is a place on earth