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Never Miss a Thing Edition
>On average how long does it take you to finish a book?
>what are you currently reading?
>What are you reading next?

Monthly Reading for August: Babel-17 by Samuel R. Delany

Monthly Reading books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

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Science Fiction:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:


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First for sci-fi.

Are we making fun of S&S DYEL?

>> No.13623628


also give me something with dinosaurs to read
I love dinosaurs

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>> No.13623651
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I think this might be right up your ally.

>> No.13623727

Low iq monekys fail to grasp fictional worlds and cant appreciate fiction unless its easily digested in video format
Also global IQ is plummeting and is less than 85 on average

Its such a shame. More than 9B people in our lifetime and less than a fraction can appreciate the beauty of world conceived by brilliant minds

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What's with the wolves?

>> No.13623844

That's a misuse and abuse of IQ, same as last thread. Try not to spam it every thread.

>> No.13623862

your IQ is not an accomplishment. it is a potential you have failed to live up to

>> No.13624287

You are iq

>> No.13624315

I've been lazy and chugging along through Player of Games by Banks. I like boardgames so it's pretty neat in that respect. Going to reread Book of the New Sun next. It didn't click the first time.

>> No.13624341

Just like everything else in my life. When should I start my cradle reread before uncrowned?

>> No.13624489

>tfw I've had 5 days off and haven't written a single word

I'm never going to fucking write again, am I

okay, let's be honest. as stupid as that pic is, those are some bitching raptors

>> No.13624652

Anyone got this in digital format?

Harvey Smith is the guy that wrote Deus Ex for Ion Storm.

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Anyone know of any lighthearted fantasy romance books? I particular like it if they include female warriors kicking ass.

>> No.13624659

metal hurlant is pretty based until you see that everything they do is basically sci-fi conan with reptiles

>> No.13624665

Write one word right now.

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Rec me something fantasy+modern day setting pls

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>everything they do is basically sci-fi conan with reptiles
I'm not seeing a problem.

>> No.13624756

When did japs get such thick thighs?

>> No.13624760

Never read any fantasy asides from the obligatory (Tolkien). Please someone recommend something with talking gryphons or featuring gryphons prominently, they've been my favourite mythical beasts since I was a little shit.

>> No.13624773

Dark Lord of Derkholm and the associated "Year of the Griffin" apparently have a lot of that.

>> No.13624811

Are the Craft Sequence books any good?

>> No.13625005

The Black Gryphon and its sequels, Mercedes is a bit of a meme but it's a good start.

>> No.13625045

dude supposedly had a meeting with amazons lawyers in july again. dont know how it turned out since i dont have a facebook account and he hasnt updated his mailing list in forever.
supposedly chances are going up for him to be allowed back to kindle but i dont know for sure.

>> No.13625059

>alien human woman sleeping with intelligent sentient t rex

>> No.13625067

No. Book one shits the book near the end, and book 2 has constant diarrhea

>> No.13625187

Huh, I was looking things up for myself and I found out there's services out there where you give them a big chunk of your money (1000 dollarydoos let's say) and tell them a goal, a deadline and some politicians you fucking hate. You have until the deadline to provide proof that the goal is complete, and if you fail they donate your money to people you think are complete asswipes.

Can someone send this shit to Rothfuss so he can stop making bullshit excuses?

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Another thread, another post.

>> No.13625460

what does /sffg/ think of magic systems where magic can only make you better at something you're already good at (e.g. someone who's a savvy investor could conjure coins from thin air, while someone who can box would be able to destroy skyscrapers with their fists)

>> No.13625558

I like it more when people can grow with their particular skill, even more so if there are specific ways that they unlock the full potential of their skill and if there are huge drawbacks if not used responsibly.
For example you mention the boxer can level skyscrapers when punching, how strong would he be without his gloves ?
Maybe someone that can level skyscrapers with their punches also pulverizes their arms due to the force of the impact if used at max power.
Maybe using their ability makes them incredibly powerful but uses an huge amount of physical energy similar to anaerobic exercise and can cause them to pass out if pushed beyond their limits or worse.
The best kind of magic or power systems are the ones that have defined drawbacks for using them.
Nothing if free in life and neither should magic be.

>> No.13625566

That's pretty much what the one ring does, apart from corrupting you in a "be careful what you wish for" way

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Anyone knows a book set in 1542-1544 Japan where the protagonist has one arm and likes boats?

>> No.13625882

>should really apply for a job
>instead I'm staring blankly at the screen waiting for the pizza place to open
>not even reading
What SFF should I read to inspire me to become more productive?

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>just finished Neuromancer
What did I think?

>> No.13625914

That it's not as good as it could have been and the ending was a bit of an asspull.
Still better than 90% of cyberpunk literature though.

>> No.13625931

Cyberpunk /lit/ was born with it and died with it. Nowadays it's just outdated.

>> No.13626078

However if you lack the mental capacity to appreciate the created world and the story you're not going to find it enjoying, that's why low IQ brainlets can't appreciate fiction, for it's too difficult or ridiculous for their mind to grasp
That's why IQ is such a important number, for it's relative for our species potential and understanding

>> No.13626107

>Nowadays it's just outdated.
That's what I was feeling. It's a victim of its own success, all of its original concepts have become cliche.

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>> No.13626233

I finished the Black Company. Any other series that hits on the same feeling of being in the shit together with the boys?

>> No.13626341

>Nothing if free in life and neither should magic be.
Air is free. And if you live in the bush the fruits are free too.

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How many books you read so far for the year?

>> No.13626461

four, but i read long books and i also read slow

>> No.13626529

I read the entirety of the Wheel of Time, which is quite an accomplishment in my opinion

>> No.13626578

30. About half of them SF&F.

>> No.13626591

So you aren't a speed reading scum?

>> No.13626612

I know someone who read the series within a year.
It has been two years since and he remembers almost nothing about it, the details all escape him and he just knows vaguely what happened. Meanwhile, me and most others have read the series over several years and have given the characters a chance to become friends, given them a longer stay within our minds and allowed their actions to have more meaning because of it.

That is an accomplishment, I'm just being a twat because I'm tired of people running through it and then being unable to discuss it.

>> No.13626618

I get through the series in about 4 weeks. I re-read it every couple of years.

>> No.13626656

Re-reading is different, it goes by much faster because you know what happens. If you read it in four weeks the first time, that's either untrue or you got basically nothing out of it

>> No.13626661

>wanting to discuss trash
For what purpose?
Just for a circle jerk?


What is even the purpose or value of such discussion? 4chan is a terrible place for in-depth discussion over time as well.

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Imagine boasting about wasting several years of Wheel of Time of all things.

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>what are you currently reading?
Currently reading pic related. What are your thoughts on it?

>On average how long does it take you to finish a book?
Depends on the lenght but apparently my average reading speed is 150 w/m according to my ereader.
I read about 3 hours every evening before going to sleep.

>What are you reading next?
Hopefully the next in the series.

>> No.13626673


>tfw cultivated for 1000 years behind closed doors
>consumed the most ancient of spiritual grasses and seven flavored teas
>emerged only to find my reader base long dead

How does one wuxia, /sffg/?

>> No.13626678

Deadhouse gates is the best book in the series

>> No.13626685

>What are your thoughts on it?
Pretty awful. The first book was weird but tolerable, the second book was decent, the third book took everything the second book did right, put it to the side, and wandered off to do some other random shit nobody cared about.

>> No.13626689

>'discussion has no purpose if i don't like it'
>implying that i'd try to have any worthwhile discussion on this site

>> No.13626694

>150 words per min
>Gardens of the Moon, ~209,000 words
>example edition: 712 pages
>209,000/150 = 23 hours
>23/3 = 8 days

>> No.13626699

So you do it entirely for your own enjoyment?

>> No.13626706

discussion about fiction is usually done because both parties enjoy it and the enjoyment is redoubled when it's reflected off someone else

>> No.13626719

Does WoT have some special privileged position with you or do you need to feel the need to develop a meaningful relationship with anything you read over time for it to be a worthwhile use of time? If you can't remember most of the details has it been a wasted investment?

Personally, for me, I read fiction solely for entertainment and have no interest in developing an emotional connection with anything I read.

>> No.13626739

>do you need to feel the need to develop a meaningful relationship with anything you read over time for it to be a worthwhile use of time
Yeah, because life is short and I'm not going to be glad I forced myself through things that didn't directly resonate with me.

>If you can't remember most of the details has it been a wasted investment?
No, but if something doesn't leave an imprint, it is clearly less meaningful than things that did.

>have no interest in developing an emotional connection
Then we are different, anon. It's hard for me to understand what you mean by 'entertainment' in that sense.

>> No.13626765

Ah, but then, why even be here posting?
Life is too short for such nonsense.
By entertainment I mean it's pleasurable.
Same as with anything else.
Fiction is fiction. It's not real.
Your sort of thinking is what leads to unironic waifus among much else.

>> No.13626795

Selective breeding

>> No.13626808

>Your sort of thinking is what leads to
It has led me to a life which I'm content with, after years of listening to more base instincts that, in hindsight, were inferior as they were momentary and only worthwhile in a nihilistic viewpoint.
Also, fiction writing does hold a more privileged position with me than most, probably, because I've been reading and writing since I was young and my life has been surrounded by books. During the day I'm an editor, at home I write for pleasure. I've always been a stickler for quality over quantity. One great book can mean more than one hundred stock cliche books.

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I love Dresden Files :)

>> No.13626835

If that's how you want to derive meaning from existence in order to maintain being functional, if not your sanity, then alright.

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>> No.13626889

I feel like, after reading the first book, from a pulp fiction standpoint, it would have probably been a great read back before the premise became an entire genre of books and tv shows. But living in a world that's filled with tons this shit, it doesn't manage to still stand above the clones in the way that LotR does.

>> No.13626892

>doubting the sincerity of your fellow SuFFraGettes.

>> No.13627224

What is the longest single storyline in terms of novels in SF and Fantasy ?
Is it still the Wheel of Time ?

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WoT is still the longest single work of "real" fiction in the world, but never underestimate the power of autism, because the two works of fanfiction "The Subspace Emissary's Worlds Conquest" and " Ambience: A Fleet Symphony" surpass it in length.

I would recommend neither.

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>Ambience: A Fleet Symphony
Never did I think I'd see that mentioned on /lit/. Does the author have legitimate autism or something? How does he do it?

>> No.13627366

It really depends on what you want to accept as valid and what specifics you care about.
For example, Guin Saga, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guin_Saga has 130 volumes and 22 side-story volumes written by the original author and seems other authors have brought it up to 145 volumes and it's still ongoing.

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>> No.13627589

It's probably not as long as those other ones, but the Gor saga is pretty long. The only good western isekai story.

>> No.13627626

From what I can see, that isn't isekai.
That being said, I think even the Japanese usage is overly broad and inconsistent. It ought only to be irreversible.
There isn't much western isekai that I know about.
One that comes to mind is the Spellsong Cycle by L.E. Modesitt, Jr.


>> No.13627664

I mean, the main character is magically transported to Gor and spends his life there, doesn't that conut?

>> No.13627665

Reading Babel-17 now reminds me of Sanderson on how cringe the romance is. The descriptions are derivative however I learned some words so I'm pleased: Shinnied and towheaded. Probably won't use towheaded since it sounds retarded but other than that it's okay.

>> No.13627685

I haven't read them. Going by the wikipedia summary and elsewhere that I see, there isn't anything magical about it. Just humans being abducted by aliens and transported on space ships.

>> No.13627736

To be clear, that probably would be classified as such in Japan. I don't find that definition helpful for English usage versus existing English terms.

>> No.13627739

Would changing "random alien abduction" to "god" would then make it an isekai in your eyes?
Tarl uses a magical ring that brings him to the world and then creates a harem of bikini armor bitches while being a kickass warrior, it's isekai.

>> No.13627764

Its actual meaning is rather useless as its too overly broad. It counts virtual worlds such as .hack, Sword Art Online, and similar as such. It includes anything with "another world". It's silly.

What I think it should be in English is an irreversible transportation to another world by whatever means. That narrows it down a bit at least. The most common now seems to be death, but that's pretty meh.

>> No.13627799

What do you think about Robin Hobbe? I actually enjoyed The Liveship Traders, but Fitz's story rrally isn't that well written.
Also should I keep reading after Fitz and the Fool trilogy? I was disapointed with the ending and I have heard it gets even worse.

>> No.13627804

Isekai means another world. It means exactly what it means, and other tags/words are used to specify. It's like saying 'drama' is too broad because it covers way too many things, when you could just say political drama, teenage drama, hospital drama etc. Reincarnation isekai is a subset of isekai just the same as VRMMO isekai is.

>> No.13627809

Otherwise end up with stuff like this:
The Magicians
Ready Player One
To Your Scattered Bodies Go
The Soprano Sorceress

Not a helpful list.

>> No.13627815

Again, I agree with and accept that.
I don't find it useful to use the Japanese term when English terms exist.
Hence, if I were to use the term I would want it to fill a niche not filled by an English term.

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Best Isekai
did it before it was cool

>> No.13627840

I've read all volumes of Cradle in less than two weeks.
Now I need more.

>> No.13627844

Write them yourself.

>> No.13627862

Read everything else the author has written.

>> No.13627876

Wait for October like the rest of us for Uncrowned

>> No.13627881

>rest of us
Unlike you, there are those who have infected his computer and are able to read it as he types it out.

>> No.13627907

I can live with that actually.
The other possibility would be to read Wuxia directly from China and finally take my Mandarin to a useful level.
I still might do just that.

>> No.13627915

>after Fitz and the Fool trilogy
fitz and fool is the last trilogy. did you mean tawny man?
rainwild kinda sucks but if you liked liveship maybe you'll like that too. liveship was great but I liked all the fitz books as well (except maybe for fool's quest, that one was so-so)

>> No.13627941

>What I think it should be in English is an irreversible transportation to another world by whatever means
is this gonna be another ASSFAGGOTS thing?

>> No.13627956

Clearly not.

>> No.13627972

Among the better of the contemporary "big" fantasy authors. Not that that's saying to much.

>> No.13628042

Around 15

>> No.13628047

Yes I meant Tawny Man.

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almost there, probably gonna be done by the time i finish the next chapter of my big bad w e b n o v e l


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>> No.13628237

Dickgirls in it?

>> No.13628254

I mean, they exist in the setting because cyberpunk, but not sure if one will show up in the story.

>> No.13628260

Fair enough

>> No.13628401

Pls Respond

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So I just finished Cry Pilot by Joel Dane.
It was... okay.
Thank you anon for the rec.

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Sword & Sorcery? More like Bros & Sorcery! Honestly though Fantasy needs more 'bros being bros' protags without any faggotry present despite the mass triggering of bugmen and femishits that would entail.

>> No.13628506

how about an amazon character that is hinted at as a romantic interest but only becomes the broest bro to ever bro

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Have you been going to the gym?

>> No.13628559

So apparently there's a theme week for sci-fi and fantasy going on over at Goodreads. They've listed what they consider the the current breakout authors of the genre. Have you read any of them? Are any of them good?


>> No.13628593

I've read Ada Palmer, Katherine Arden and Charlie Jane Anders. Palmer is absolutely fantastic, can't wait for her to finish the last Terra Ignota book. Arden is good enough that when she put out her next book I will at least consider reading it. Anders is shit, generic and generally bad writing.

I've heard enough good about Ninefox Gambit that I consider reading it.

>> No.13628633


My first experience with science fiction novels was Asimov this week. The guy was a genius and a scientist. I have a feeling that Asimov is special and that I will get disappointed reading other science fiction novellas.

Is there science fiction literature as excellent as Asimov's Foundation trilogy?

>> No.13628650

I just went through the list and I think that one time or another most of the titles in that list have been mocked by this general. The rest looks like YA crap. The very first book (Rosewater by Tade Thompson) is described by one 5 star review as Neuromancer meets Star Wars.
Poppy War and it's sequel have just been made fun of in the previous thread. Ditto for Kings of The Wyld, Baru Cormorant (which is onions incarnate) and Ninefox Gambit.
Most of the other titles were on my radar but the premise was not really interesting enough for me to pick it up. It's the usual YA/fantasy/soft sci-fi mix that's popular every year.

>> No.13628670

>totally cluttered up desktop
1/10 would not fuck

>> No.13628772

And, of course, the list is shit. Baru Cormorant is pretty good and Ada Palmer has her moments. Most of the rest I've never even heard of, what is this garbage?

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>> No.13628810

"Elma’s drive to become the first Lady Astronaut is so strong that even the most dearly held conventions of society may not stand a chance against her."
Dare I say it's woke garbage?

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>> No.13628867

But who is to blame for this sad, sad state of affairs?

>> No.13628904

The jews.

>> No.13628906

Oy vey!

>> No.13629124

A lot of my ideas are to do with bros being bros.
Any novels that you recommend that have this in mind?

>> No.13629128

Anyone reading the book of the month?

>> No.13629135

I stopped reading the book of the month when it started being f*ntasy

>> No.13629140

You guys like the expanse?

>> No.13629159

There's no better sci-fi show currently airing but to be fair the competition is very limited these days.

>> No.13629198

sounds like the same shit you retards have been reading for decades but aimed at teenage girls instead of boys. now that you're outside the target audience you see the stupidity of it. if it looks unbelievably cringy to you that's because it is, but be aware that this is exactly what you look like to people outside the sff bubble when you swoon over how teenage genius paul atreides totally destroyed the galactic empire with his power of being the most special of all the snowflakes.

>> No.13629220

Don't be such a tranny.

>> No.13629236

The book I posted.

>> No.13629246

>lol I have no idea what I'm talking about

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>> No.13629413

Fritz Leiber's Lankhmar stuff if you haven't read it yet

>> No.13629420

Wait, that was what you answered to. So I basically recommended you the exact same thing...

>> No.13629557

That's fine, I didn't realize that it was an entire series.
Thanks, I'll definitely read them all next month.

>> No.13629572

I thought it would be released this month, why did it get pushed?

>> No.13629577

I read the first three soiaf in about 1.5 weeks, but have taken nearly a month to finish book 4. Book 5 is also equally bkring and bloated as i remember it, surely book 6 will be better?

>> No.13629580

>Guin Saga
Why do we have so many /a/ faggots in our general? When you tried to talk about on topic naruto in /a/ you were banned, but they are allowed to go to other boards and talk their off topic shit?

>> No.13629590

Books are books

>> No.13629591

No, you're retarded and probably a dike. Its deliberately going out of its way to "fight societal gender norms", which is fucking gay and cringe.

>> No.13629597

Waaaaaahhh the bad people are upsetting the status quo!

>> No.13629603

It's the fantasy author curse. They equate quality with word count.

>> No.13629613

Damn her clit is hard.

>> No.13629626

Yeah trannies and basedboys are the worst.

>> No.13629639

>satus quo
Incorrect. You are just a useful idiot with a false sense of moral self-righteousness pissing yourself over issues that only exist in your deluded mind. What status quo? Female equality of opportunity has been around for decades, women and minorities are currently encouraged far more than white men to go into stem fields and it has been this way for a long time. You are the status quo. Unfortunately your feeble female brains are too emotional and irrational to observe reality for what it truly is, so you all act like special victim snowflakes and caucasian men humour you. But again,
>upsetting the status quo
Thanks for the laugh.

>> No.13629646

Excessive working out for females makes them less fertile

>> No.13629648

>female brains
Nigga there are no girls on the interbutts.
Only incels like you and trannies.

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>he thinks there'll be a book 6

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>> No.13629683

Why wouldnt there be?

>t. Seething bulldyke

>> No.13629708

>insipid female logic on failbook and other social stigma sites
>people posting emotionally about a book and using their experience as examples instead of what was written in the actual book
>talking about something's cosmetic value instead of what was written inside it
>looks for images of authors if the authors are female and attacks their appearance instead of what they actually wrote
>no women on the internet

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>le interbutts xD
Do you have a gunt? (Gut cunt)

>> No.13629721

So I should look for a fit slampiggie so I can nut in her raw and never have to worry about kids?
Does the exercise stop them from bothering me while I'm reading?

>> No.13629749

Sexual intercourse should only be engaged in with the intention of reproduction.

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Do you have one?

Don't be such losers.

>> No.13629768

This month was always speculation based on a meme post he made. So he gave us an official release period of “before Halloween” instead of letting people speculate.

>> No.13629781

>sjw fatty rides a bike

>> No.13629809

>Why wouldnt there be?
Because that morbidly obese boomer isn't getting any younger and still has barely anything to show on The Winds of Winter after 8 years. Even recently he said he's not feeling the pressure to complete it.

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I also do long distance running (marathons, trail runs) and making fun of your physical inferiority.
When it really comes down to it, there really is no difference between you and some basedboy.
Different sides of the same coin.

>> No.13629848

But he's having so much fun.

>> No.13629879

>bragging about how you exercise on 4chan
This is why youre a subhuman sjw

>> No.13629891

So? You're naïve if think his death would stop mountains of cash flowing in for the last 2 books

>> No.13629896

I hate these late night propagandists so much

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But I am not bragging. I am reacting to you going off rails about "females". I do not want you airing your insecurities in this general(what the fuck do you know about women anyway). Not here please. You have /pol, /tv, /v, whatever.
And before you start foaming at the mouth I also do not want some leftist self-appointed commissar coming here to dilate.
It's really no achievement being better than some borderline obese, socially inept spaz (generally speaking).

Really? You don't like being lectured by an inbreed, buck toothed Englishmen berating Americans that they are not as cucked as UK?
I am shocked.

>> No.13629968

Thanks for ruining the thread, you fucking faggots.

>> No.13629969
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Is Gregory Benford worth reading?

>> No.13629989

It takes longer waiting for a reply than to read a few pages.

>> No.13629991

Is there a market for fantasy fiction written by far-right extremists? Just checking for reasons.

>> No.13630000 [DELETED] 

Fuck yeah.
Just frame the conflict in politically correct way, by using fantasy races as stand-ins for lefties, niggers and jews.

>> No.13630053 [DELETED] 

Can we just shoot the alt right already? This shit is getting ridiculous

>> No.13630064

I'm a degenerate. It's why I read, I'm selfish and only in it for the pleasure it gives me.

>> No.13630104

Is he even still making them? I read the last one and I was lost. So many plates spinning I couldn't remember what was going on in the series. So things come up, conflicts are resolved, and I don't remember what motivates them until days later. Now it seems it's for autists and future new completionist readers only.

>> No.13630120

It's been about 5 years since the last one came out. Butcher had a lot of problems at home that prevented him from writing but he finished his manuscript for Peace Talks like a month ago

>> No.13630172

I'd buy it!
N-not that I was a far right extremist or anything...

>> No.13630444

Vox day is "far right" and writes fantasy books. No idea what theyre like though.

>going off the rails
You're the one posting your exercise stats and writing a bunch off butthurt bullshit because i made fun of lesbians, sounds like youre projecting, sweetie

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Yeah, but I'm not going to tell you because it's off topic and you spam fan fiction and litrpgay
>He thinks book 6 isn't finished but being held back so as not to interfere with Daddy HBO's DVD sales

>> No.13630578

Didnt know bobby and ashara had a thing

>> No.13630579

/sffg/, I'm seriously considering using one of those services that holds your money hostage until you meet a personal goal and donates it if you miss your deadline. It's incredibly autistic but I'm running low on ideas

>> No.13630651

>you spam fan fiction and litrpgay
>he says while he posts deviant art tier fan fiction of ice and fire shipping babies for the past two plus weeks

>> No.13630660

No one cares therapist anon. We are not your friends, nor is this your blog.

>> No.13630677

anon, you people are horrible excuses for human beings. do you think I post about myself because I think you care? no! I post about myself because I like posting about myself, and if it makes your thread just a little bit less enjoyable that's extra credit

>> No.13630691

The Rapist will make your feels go away.

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>blackmailing yourself into work

>> No.13630723

>not conditioning yourself with fap rewards
Anon, this is like the oldest lifehack around here...

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Sword & Sorcery chad here and I just finished Swords Against Death >>13628496 which was my first time reading Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser and I regret putting off reading this stuff for so long. These stories, when they're at their best, damn near rival the very best S&S stories from REH himself. Wonderful prose, humor, protags completely grounded in reality (they're not borderline superhumans like Conan), male companionship without any modern commie faggotry ruining it. Good shit.

>> No.13630734

self-imposed rewards and deadlines are bullshit. What am I going to do, fire myself? I don't have the guts

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40,most of them were pretty short,also i don't have a job.

>> No.13630751

Read the riyria revelations for modern s&s.

>> No.13630754

We've had lady astronauts for decades now, isn't the record for the longest time in space held by a woman?

>> No.13630766

You also didn't get an education. I can see why you are jobless. You put a space after a comma.

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>> No.13630794

based and checked

>> No.13630851

They're based, think about it they're both a symbol of Romans and the sacred animal of Tengriism.

>> No.13630870

Not a symbol of the Romans, they thought they were a joke(she wolf kinda sounds like whore in Latin). They're a fucking pest.

>> No.13630943

>Fighting gender norms is gay
I mean... Technically yes. Like, that's kind of the point

>> No.13631095

Unreadable if you have almost any kind of background with digital or electronic technology.

>> No.13631102

>You also didn't get an education
>thinking "getting an education" gets you a job
Boomer/millenial detected

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Holy shit racist 4chan nazis btfo xdd

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This is why we can't have nice things.

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>Looking for some fantasy content that I haven't read yet
>Everywhere just bombards me with mountains of chinkshit and litrpg garbage

I fucking hate recommendation algorithms. Why would I want a recommendation to a series I have already read? I want to be recommended new things, not old things.

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So I picked up The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet, featured in a Goodreads list of upcoming fantasy authors, posted here >>13628559.
From the technical point, regarding the writing, it's at best mediocre. We are talking about the run of the mill character driven, fluffy soft sci-fi.
Where this book really drops the ball is the fact that this is basically a write up of how reddit imagines the future, with a healthy dose of "current year" guilt tripping.
We are talking about the novel in which the only character acting as an asshole and a coward is white (described as pink). Everyone else is some shade of mystery brown.
We have a midget proud of his physical deformity chasing down a chassis for his AI masturbatory aid. We have a society who's primary source of protein seem to be bugs (I am getting flashbacks of that Washington Post article about how shit eating bugs are excellent source of protein). A society on Mars that kept meat as a staple of their diet is actually called cowardly. And then come the gender pronouns, the triumvirate of xir, xer and they.
Destructive climate change making Earth uninhabitable, pacifism, exceedingly human aliens, the list just goes on and on.
I have no idea how this is supposed to be something ground breaking. What a shitty list.

>> No.13631436

just finished the brilliance that is Dune lads,
how do the sequels hold up?

>> No.13631624

Any good science fiction books were Humanity is a very weak force in the universe barely surviving against much more powerful and mysterious aliens? It doesn’t have to be about a war really, just about a desperate struggle to avoid death or irrelevance.

>> No.13631852

I'm sure someone's got the image macro handy, but basically Herbert was forced to write the sequel by his publisher, then he started to have fun with it again, he put out God Emperor (book 4) to finish the series, but then ran out of money or something so started writing a new trilogy to finish the series. He died after writing book 6, meaning the series ends in a really weird place with no book 7. His son then moved in and raped his corpse.

Basically, read up until book 4. If you still really need more, push on to book 6. Don't touch anything with Kevin's name on it.

>> No.13632013

A question regarding writing your own novels in scifi and fantasy genres.
Is it wrong if you flipflop the genre of a series ?
What I mean by this is that I build up to scifi setting and due to plot reasons it gets changed to a more traditional fantasy setting (the scifi stuff is still there but more in the background). The story eventually builds back up to a scifi setting afterwards.
Would something like this be a bad move ?

>> No.13632040

Can be done but only if you plan it out meticulously. You can't just up and change it. And even if you do it right chances are people won't like it anyway because they came for one thing and you've basically bait and switched them.

>> No.13632045

sounds like you want to write something similar to the galactic mage. it always depends on how its executed. personally i liked the galactic mage.
try it out if you havent read it.
it seems to be exactly what you are looking for.
it basically switches between a fantasy and sci-fi setting constantly. eventually it intermingles both. second book is a bit iffy but overall its fantastic.


>> No.13632073

Finishing the Culture series has left a hole in my heart, almost as big as when I finished Malazan.

Is there any other long spanning series similar to those two?

>> No.13632081

Make it clear from the beginning that you are mixing genres, otherwise you will piss of the reader

>> No.13632090

This really isn't something that should change, unless you are writing a very long story. If by changing settings, you mean it's a sci-fi story and they are trapped somewhere without technology or they're sent to a planet without it, that's not uncommon.
If you mean that they get temporarily isekai'd and it's a traditional fantasy world for literally no good reason, that's dumb and you probably shouldn't do it.

>> No.13632116

I am planning in a really meticulous fashion for why this happens just to make sure that it doesn't feel like a massive asspull.

I will most definitely give this a read, thank you.

I'll most likely update the genre descriptions and the blurb as to what happens in each novel so people know what they're getting into.
I'm not looking to put them up for publishing (either through one of the big 5 or self published) until I finish all the novels I am working on, at the moment I'm at 16 seperate storylines but I can condense them down to fit two novels into one bigger story keeping it to about 8 or so novels (in some novels I use the same character but X years later so I can easily condense those without confusing the reader).

It's more that it changes from a high tech kind of scifi (transhumanism and getting ready for FTL travel) to what remains of society after what is essentially the end of days and how society rebuilds afterwards. It just felt wrong in a way to file it under scifi than fantasy I guess. They're still on earth but most tech is either dead or they don't really know how to use it anymore.
I suppose it is a mix of both so should I just leave the genre as it is ?

>> No.13632161

>I suppose it is a mix of both
Then it's both, it doesn't necessarily need to fit into either perfectly. Sci-fi with fantasy elements, or post-apocalyptic fantasy, doesn't much matter unless you shill one way or the other too hard. If the description implies that there are multiple settings or large scale changes happen, that's all you need.

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Why is this so hard to find!

>> No.13632393

Being born in the 1980s make me a millennial?

>> No.13632407

millennials are classified as early 80s-mid 90s

>> No.13632417

>Destructive climate change making Earth uninhabitable
This is the only thing that doesn't belong on your post because it is true and is happening before your very eyes, pol-kun.

>> No.13632435

>His son then moved in and raped his corpse
Raping a loved one's corpse is the ultimate show of love and dedication. If you can't even rape a deceased love one, who can you rape?

>> No.13632486

Neal Asher and Bv Larson

>> No.13632512

Because you are brainlet incarnate. No one will spoonfeed you lazy chan.

>> No.13632515

I'm sure millennials are classified as 2000 or after.

>> No.13632518

the physical copy is available on amazon
there are 15 results on irc
i don't see the issue

>> No.13632538

>I'm sure
Incredible. Anyway, why don't you google it you absolute retard?

>> No.13632558

>Baby Boomers: Born 1946-1964 (54-72 years old) Generation X: Born 1965-1980 (38-53 years old) Millennials: Born 1981-1996 (22-37 years old) Post-Millennials: Born 1997-Present (0-21 years old)
So everyone here is a millennial? Or are you a post millennial? By your original post that makes you an underage ban post millennial.

>> No.13632580

I'm not the one you replied to.

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>> No.13632666

You are just spoonfeeding to piss someone off huh? You played yourself.

>> No.13632673

or he doesn't have autism and just wanted to help that anon read the book

>> No.13632756

You will enjoy Ancillary Justice then

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How's that Kilimanjaro snow top Al Gore?

Yeah no more female authors.

>> No.13632879

You guys ever read something so bad you feel like it has to be intentional? I'm reading some Cthulhu Mythos anthology and there's this story called "The Nyarlathotep Event" that's either insufferable action-horror or quietly brilliant satire. The whole thing reads like a shitpost about modern Lovecraft stuff, with katana-wielding bacon-loving secret agents who defeat Nyarlathotep with the power of human laughter.

>> No.13632888

Anything after Lovecrafts own work is absolute garbage.

>> No.13632897

This is the first mythos stuff I've read not written by Lovecraft; I picked it up at random because I wanted to see what was out there. I feel like you're generally right but I've enjoyed some of the stories.

>> No.13632927

Even a lot of his own work after a certain point is garbage.

>> No.13632958

>it's autistic to not spoonfeed an actual retard who can't read the fucking sticky and follow instructions

>> No.13632974

>Anything of Lovecraft's own works is absolute garbage.
Ftfy, no need to thank me.

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Just stopping by to say that Babel-17 is garbage.

>> No.13632984

That prose is so unbelievably purple it crosses into ultraviolet.

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Humor from late 19th c., early 20th c. newspapers is stupendously awful.

>> No.13633260

ok ty might dig into some of my other purchases for a bit and come back to it once the first one has settled in my mind. always afraid to get dissapointed by sequels but i also do have a sense of craving more for this one.

>> No.13633376

>Baru Cormorant is pretty good
What was good about it? I thought it was one of the worst books I ever read.It's doubly painful if you've taken economics.

>> No.13633406

There are B movies from the 1950s with female astronauts. How the fuck is this shit still 'upsetting the status quo' in current year? It isn't! All it is doing is promoting the same fucking annoying victim complex and false overcoming of nothing. Want to really upset the status quo? How about a female character that has some real agency, that has bad things happen to her and isn't a fucking Mary Sue self-insert.

>> No.13633409

Takes 10-40 seconds to read a page depending on size of page and complexity of ideas. Some sci fi is good, but fantasy is dogshit.

>> No.13633415

go to a different general then

>> No.13633438

A brave heroine sticks it up to the colonizing fantasy patriarchy.

>> No.13633486

Im here for the scifi. Dune was great. Herberts other series are ok. The hyperion series was ok. Need more scifi with a philosophical bent and not current year propoganda

>> No.13633695

Nice try, Jemisin.

>> No.13633986

/sffg/, does this character sound redeemable?

>novice adventurers are assigned a scarred veteran as a reluctant guide into the latter's hostile motherland
>veteran is a bitter, hostile social darwinist who tells the party repeatedly he can protect them to the capital but no further
>despite this he softens with time, and never fails to protect the party even if it conflicts with his "the strong eat the weak and the weak eat nothing" mentality
>party finally arrives at the capital
>as soon as they're through the gate they're immediately captured
>veteran immediately switches sides

>> No.13634029

>all female authors
>not the actual best selling sci fi authors
the fucking audacity

>> No.13634036

no but it would be immensely satisfying to have the main party harden up as a result of the betrayal and fuck their captors to hell and back without losing sight of their morals

Lawful Good paladin kneecaps a necromancer, spits in his face, and leaves him to die while reciting sermon, that kind of thing.

>> No.13634043

is neal asher dead?

>> No.13634072

all modern fantasy is shit as is it's fanbase

>> No.13634170

Uplift universe by David Brin.
It's not really good though since it loses itself into boring sidestories instrad of driving on the big plot

>> No.13634190

would it matter whether the traitor was a traitor from the start or whether he switched sides at the last minute

>> No.13634196


If he switched sides at the last minute he could be redeemed, but if he had been intending to betray them the whole time he would deserve to get fucked and left to die.

>> No.13634221

He won't let anyone else finish them, and if they are going to rape his last wishes for money they will do it with more spinoffs in the form of series and movies since those would bring more money than books.

>> No.13634233

really? I would see it as the opposite. A spy that grows sympathetic to his mark and began to question his allegiances too late to act always struck me as more human than a hypocritical coward who throws his allies under the bus

>> No.13634248

>why good?
>because wokesterism
Again what was good about it?

>> No.13634253

A momentary fault in morals is less reprehensible than someone who has been a sack of shit the whole time and only considered being not a sack of shit

>> No.13634255

Yes, he didn't do anything wrong in the first place.

>> No.13634257

You could explore that theme, have some of the party think he was setting them up from the begining and others think he probably just did it last minute to save himself.
You could make the reader question which would be worse.

>> No.13634265

>A momentary fault in morals is less reprehensible than someone who has been a sack of shit the whole time and only considered being not a sack of shit
Isn't that the system of Dante's inferno? People who commited the same sin in a moment of impulse or weakness were in the same circle of hell as those who planned it out but their punishments were less severe.

>> No.13634293

>than a hypocritical coward who throws his allies under the bus
He didn't, they weren't his allies, they were under his protection and he plainly told him were his duties were and werre not.
He didn't play a game of conceit, no matter what his original intentions were he stayed true to his word, the last thing he is, is a hypocrite.

>> No.13634298

I think so, yeah.

>> No.13634308

Sarcasm nigga, do you detect it?

>> No.13634314

But the Humanity was the most special of all the special snowflakes in that universe.

>> No.13634322

There is no moral fault in doing your duty and plainly stating were it is and is not.

He can not control the rest of the group, if they decided to become emotionally attached to a person who states that he sees it as a weakness, they have only to blame themselves when the feeling isn't mutual.

>> No.13634327

dark age was good, not great, just good

>> No.13634340

so, if he then triple-crossed and slipped the party the key to their cell, would he still be irredeemable?

>> No.13634349

Yes, because that would be the first and only betrayal he committed.
Not just against his now allies, but against his moral code as well.

>> No.13634408

>Defends fan fiction
>Hates on fan fiction
What did litrpgay mean by this?

>> No.13634435

Stories of Your Life and Others - Ted Chiang
He came out with a second short story compilation recently called Exhalation but it's ass in comparison.

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I can't fucking find the second book of Dungeon Deposed on either Mobilism or IRC. I NEED TO KNOW IF HE FUCKS THAT MINOTAUR GODDAMNIT

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>> No.13634534

Cow head

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Just finished reading Starship Troopers and honestly I am a bit disappointed considering how people hype this shit. I was expecting an action adventure about humanity facing the odds to fight against aliens but instead I got some philosophy book about how civilians suck.

>> No.13634696

I miss his harem fantasy

>> No.13634738

Why do people like this series with white knight beta ass MC. Why can't MCs be rational smart and slap women when they get outta line

>> No.13634780

All heinlein is like that. If you want straight space marine action try undying mercenaries.

>> No.13634821

And still they were the underdogs, hated by everyone and always having to look behind their backs to check if another race finally wants to get rid of them with their way superior fleets.

>> No.13634831

>he fell for the movie trap
You only have to blame yourself.

>> No.13634915

Not true. Humanity had allies and were never either in danger of extinction (because everyone was playing nice) or being irrelevant (due to them messing around with the galactic library and annoying older, more powerful races).

>> No.13635022

Abercrombie's First Law trilogy, especially the northmen chapters, and Logen's to an extent.

>> No.13635123

>Guin Saga
Saying that you can't talk about a book series because it got an anime adaptation thirty years after it started is like saying you can't talk about Dune because the Lynch movie exists.

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But the Lynch movie was good unlike that weeb bait.
It had Picard as Gurney Halleck.

>> No.13635169

>implying even half the shit /sffg/ talks about is good
That said, I barely remember anything from the movie aside from the dodgy SFX. Didn't seem like one of Lynch's best.

>> No.13635178

Don't talk to me pleb.

>> No.13635212

Black Drow did nothing wrong and was a patriot

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Yeah, plus the movie had a better aesthetic
Guin Saga is based. I think Vampire Hunter D is pushing 50 books as well. If the chinkfags that infest this general read actual Asian lit instead of masturbatory hentai wish fulfillment they wouldn't get bombed on so hard.

>> No.13635231

I don't want to seem like the David Lynch Internet Defense Force, but the weaknesses of the Dune movie didn't mesh with David Lynch weaknesses, they meshed with Hollywood weaknesses. I take the alien imagery and paranoid mood as canon and the singing arabs for justice shite as something else.

>> No.13635242

Three-body problem series

>> No.13635255

i just finished reading Book of the New Sun and I have a question kind of relevant to its status as a genre chimera. Its clearly pretty easy to write a science fiction book in the trappings of fantasy (genetic engineering=mythical beasts, aliens=elder gods, etc.) Has anyone ever attempted to write a fantasy book decked out in the cliches of fantasy? If so, what do you think it would look like? I’m thinking there’s something you could do with magic resulting in interstellar travel, but something localizes entirely on one planet would be a lot harder.

>> No.13635271

That's perfectly fair.

I read the first volume of Guin Saga and didn't get much out of it, so I never followed up beyond that. Last Japanese book I read was Sisyphean by Denpow Torishima, which was great, but I could see people having problems with some sections if they have zero familiarity with Shintoism. Might be my favorite book I've read this year.

>> No.13635473

I'll check it out. I don't read much jap lit though because I haven't found any where it isn't painfully obvious that is a translation. Lots of weird metaphors and sentence structure. I end up having to adopt a different mindset to deal with the ideosyncratic prose and it almost feels like reading bizarro epic poetry.

>> No.13635602

Not gonna lie or troll, I thought the Lynch movie was better than the book and I am one of those the-book-is-always-better-than-the-movie fags.

>> No.13635631

>a fantasy book decked out in the cliches of fantasy
I guess you mean to say "science fiction"in one of those.
Anyway,not sure right now about books, but planescape has a lot of science fiction elements in what is officially a fantasy setting, as has the video game series Wizardry.

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You should have watched the anime OVA series.

>> No.13635726

/sffg/, give my some good recent epic fantasy to read

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>> No.13635741

>tfw therapy for my writing problems turned into therapy for my crippling, violent bitterness towards the world we live in that you all perpetuate

>> No.13635753

My webnovel :)

>> No.13635816
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Any book recommendations similar to the three body problem?

>> No.13635829

Here's part of the beginning if you want to get an idea of its feel.

>> No.13635909

What i most enjoyed about this series was how different sides of humanity are portrayed over different time-periods and how the different environment a species evolves in can have massive impact on how a society forms.

For example the Alien race in the series, the Tri-solarans, evolved in a planet that has a chaotic day night cycle, due to the planet revolving around 3 suns. They communicate trough thoughts that everyone in a certain range can listen to, this ,leads to the aliens initially having a 100% transparent communication with the humans, but after learning more about their racial differences each race changes how they approach each other.

The author also brings up a lot of cool technologies, the aliens after learning of a star that has a stable day/night cycle (earth) decide to invade earth, but since they are over 4 light years away, and earth civilization evolves exponentially faster than the tri-solarans, the aliens unfold a proton to cover their entire planet and write circuits inside of it, making an extremely powerful artificial intelligence that has the size of a proton, and they send it over to earth, to mess with basic science reysearch, so the humans cannot evolve science, making their invasion easier.

Sorry for the wall of the text, but are there any similar books?

>> No.13635957

Thousand worlds

>> No.13635969

oh no.

I no longer feel like I have my novel figured out

>> No.13635994

Read Bakker

>> No.13636028

Anyone read much of the Horus Heresy series? Opinions?
Also what are some good beginner sci-fi books? Not familiar with the genre really.

>> No.13636030

Did you not make a story structure beforehand?

>> No.13636031

sounds interesting, should i start with the neuropath or the prince of nothing?

>> No.13636065

“A money-making system? Why do you want to create such a system?” Senior White was puzzled. “If you lack money, you can simply take a stroll outside and get plenty of it. If you feel that the amount isn’t enough, you can go to a mountain and start digging, obtaining quite a few valuable items. Then, you can sell these items and make a lot of money.”

>> No.13636073

Back to save you all from shit threads. I deserve an award desu


>> No.13636081

I actually have more story structure now that I did before. It just feels weaker for some reason. Maybe it's because I fucked up the MC somewhere along the way. He's supposed to be a wimpy genius who makes up for his lameness at magic by using science. Now instead he's a wimpy genius who makes up for his lameness at magic by using the power of friendship.

arguably he still is a scientific genius, but you really only see it in play in the first quarter of the book

>> No.13636094

Jesus fuck I just looked it up on Wikipedia andthere are fifty-fucking-four titles in that series?
I stopped after "Legion" (book 7) since it just wasn't how I expected it to turn out. I don't know, I just thought there was way more prelude to Horus turning traitor and the way it happened felt like kind of a let-down to me too.
Legion and Flight of the Eisenstein were pretty cool in itself though.

>> No.13636106

MCs need a psychological weakness and moral weakness resolved by the need at the end of the story
also a desire against an opponent
cleary define those things

>> No.13636150

the MC has those things, the issue is he resolves those problems in a way I'm not fully happy with. Yes, the main character learns not to be a lone wolf, but I wanted him to learn to use his own strengths as well.

I was hoping for a jojoesque final battle using his weak magic, but it ended up more like that feminist scene in Endgame without the feminism

>> No.13636301

my diary desu

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>> No.13636498

Prince of nothing trilogy, then aspect emperor. That’s his epic fantasy series

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