/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13617200]

this is THE most important book of decade.

[Anonymous No.13617215]

>>13617200
what a gay title

[Anonymous No.13617235]

>>13617200
Would love for him to win, a US president of Taiwanese descent would probably trigger the fuck out of China.

[Anonymous No.13617255]

>>13617200
If we got UBI, I'm certain a vast amount of americans would move to the countryside and start farming. The only thing getting in my way right now is property tax/utilities. Not sure if it would work though

[Anonymous No.13617262]

>>13617235
>lets trigger the foreigners by voting other foreigners into power
Why not just stop being an absolute cuck and vote for someone who represents your own race.

[Anonymous No.13617264]

>>13617200
>normies think they are being antagonised

[Anonymous No.13617267]

>>13617262
He's not a foreigner, he was born and raised in the US

[Anonymous No.13617273]

>>13617262
America has always been a country of mutts.

[Anonymous No.13617274]

>>13617262
>foreigner
He's a citizen who's lived here all of his life, how would that make him a foreigner?

[Anonymous No.13617275]

>>13617262
>Yang was born in Schenectady, New York,[11] to immigrant parents from Taiwan.[12] His parents met while they were both in graduate school at the University of California, Berkeley.[13] His father graduated with a Ph.D. in physics and worked in the research labs of IBM and General Electric, generating over 69 patents in his career.[13] His mother graduated with a master's degree in statistics and later became an artist.
He was born in America; he's not a foreigner.

[Anonymous No.13617277]

>>13617264
This so much. Normalfags and moralfags are absolutely seething telling themselves they are "different".

[Anonymous No.13617288]

>>13617275
>>13617274
>>13617267
civic nationalism is so fucking gay

[Anonymous No.13617296]

>>13617273
Yang is more pure than most Americans.

[Anonymous No.13617308]

>>13617288
Without liberal nationalism we wouldn't have Andrew Yang. Liberal nationalism is awesome.

[Anonymous No.13617320]

>>13617288
Yeah, fuck those germans, and those irish guys, and anyone who's not part of the original makeup of this country

[Anonymous No.13617330]

>>13617288
I'm an immigrant in Britain. My parents emigrated here from Eastern Europe when I was four. You'd have to be crazy to tell me I'm not British. I speak perfect English with a North-English accent, I grew up on fish and chips and Lidls, I went to a British school, was taught British history, socialised with British friends, wore British fashion, spoke British lingo, etc. The only way my experience has been un-British is (1) I speak Lithuanian and (2) retards like you have tried to antagonise me for being a foreigner. But if I was sent back to where I came from, as your kind often wish, I would feel much more of a foreigner there than I do here. And I'm someone who emigrated when he was four; you're talking about a guy who was BORN in America.

[Anonymous No.13617340]

>chink
>commie

checks out

[Anonymous No.13617343]

>>13617320
>>13617330
>But if I was sent back to where I came from, as your kind often wish, I would feel much more of a foreigner there than I do here.
See, the process of immigration turned you in such a screwed up abomination that you would feel out of place in your native habitat lmao.

[Anonymous No.13617354]

>>13617343
What? My "native habitat" is america, I didn't immigrate anywhere

[Anonymous No.13617356]

>>13617330
It's about racial characteristics. You're not British no matter how much you want that to be true, because your ancestors lived thousands and thousands of years in a whole diferent environment than that of the British isles, and thus, went on a physical, spiritual, and mental evolution different from that of the British race. You can call yourself white but not British, because under that facade of "i speak perfect english" and "grew up in Britain", lies a different ethnic background which makes your behavior, line of thought and action, different from those that share their lineage with Shakespeare and so many other greats.

[Anonymous No.13617359]

>>13617330
Your parents should have stayed in Eastern Europe, and Yang's parents should have stayed in Taiwan. By having the both of you raised outside of your ancestral homes your parents committed the greatest crime upon their own offspring, they made your own ancestry off-putting.

[Anonymous No.13617363]

>>13617330
>as your kind often wish
you're white, so it's not half bad, though. stop larping as a butthurt POC.

[Anonymous No.13617370]

>>13617356
What amount of "british" dna makes you a british person? When does this distinction become arbitrary?

[Anonymous No.13617374]

>>13617343
>Native habitat
What are we, fucking monkeys? The Earth is my native habitat.
>>13617356
It's not though. Culture is an entirely environmental construct. I'm culturally British, whether you like it or not.
>>13617359
How is my ancestry off-putting?

[Anonymous No.13617379]

>>13617374
>The Earth is my native habitat.
pahahahaha, what a faggot

[Anonymous No.13617386]

>>13617262
>race wars

imbecile

[Anonymous No.13617387]

>>13617370
Probably between 90-99%. But anyway, just as we can see light in an dimly lit room, but can't detect exactly where does light start and darkness ends, i say the same about percentages of DNA. The more, the Britishier, of course.

[Anonymous No.13617388]

>>13617343
>>13617356
>>13617359
He's literally assimilated and European like white nationalists want. This is why civic nationalism is so much better than ethnic Nationalism.

[Anonymous No.13617393]

>>13617388
>He's literally assimilated and European like white nationalists want.
He did and that's alright. He sounds like some self-loathing white leftist adapting American tier SJW talking points, that's why i'm making fun of him.

[Anonymous No.13617394]

>>13617374
I see you're new on /lit/ and race-realism. I suggest you to research on it, because no, culture is not environmentally constructed, and where your ancestors lived determine a good percentage of your line of thought, and actions.

The earth is also the native habitat of monkeys, worms, and snakes.

[Anonymous No.13617398]

>>13617393
fair enough.

[Anonymous No.13617405]

>>13617388
He may be "assimilated" but he's never going to be British, because that is an innate characteristic.

[Anonymous No.13617417]

>>13617387
Why would you call anyone currently living in britain british after they have been so thoroughly mongrelized and mixed up throughout history? You could say "western europeans" are more related to eachother than they are to africans, but after a certain point, you're making an arbitrary distinction between who does and doesn't fit your particular mold of british. What's the point of making this distinction? The aforementioned racial characteristics (the jungian stuff that was mentioned) has no basis in science, it's pure speculation. I'm not talking about IQ, but moral values and the like.

[Anonymous No.13617421]

>>13617394
>where your ancestors lived determine a good percentage of your line of thought, and actions.
Source?

[Anonymous No.13617425]

>>13617393
What talking points have I adopted? Someone was trying to brand Yang a foreigner and I gave my two cents.
>>13617394
You're retarded if you think that. Culture is highly malleable. Just look at how sharply things changed since the 1950s. Every old man in every age has complained about the decay of the new generation with their new customs and ideas. The idea that culture is this innate genetic characteristic is laughable.

[Anonymous No.13617426]

>>13617417
>source plox
>gib ncbi link
>evidense
>muh study

[Anonymous No.13617427]

>>13617417
The different mixes produce new races. You are not part of those mixes. You are not part of that race. You are not british.
>You could say "western europeans" are more related to eachother than they are to africans, but after a certain point, you're making an arbitrary distinction between who does and doesn't fit your particular mold of british
Irrelevant.
>What's the point of making this distinction?
Because the distinction is real, created by nature, after thousands and thousands of years of evolution.
>The aforementioned racial characteristics (the jungian stuff that was mentioned) has no basis in science, it's pure speculation.
No one mentioned this.
>I'm not talking about IQ, but moral values and the like.
No one mentioned this, we're talking about how you understand the world, a thing which has been shaped by evolution.

[Anonymous No.13617451]

>>13617427
>The different mixes produce new races. You are not part of those mixes
That's what I'm saying dude, the people who lived in britain before they were mixed would still be called "british", what's the difference between a race being mixed before and it being mixed now? If what makes someone's dna "british" is arbitrary (the definition is the same regardless of genetic makeup, as you just admitted) there's no reason to make the distinction at all, because the basis of said distinction is arbitrary.
>No one mentioned this.
Yes they did >>13617394 >>13617356

[Anonymous No.13617506]

>>13617451
No they wouldn't. Roman Bretons have nothing in common with the Anglo-Saxons that surpassed them, just as you have nothing in common with said Anglo-Saxons. There was no significant degree of mixture after the Anglo-Saxons, as you try to imply. They are the true British.
>If what makes someone's dna "british" is arbitrary
It's far from arbitrary because it comes from Nature itself. Again, process of evolution shaped both races which intermingled and produced a new one. You are not part of that new one. If you have a kid with an Anglo-Saxon, it will be a new race, without any history whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.13617513]

>>13617379
school trip is over, back to larp board faggot

[Anonymous No.13617519]

>>13617513
>school trip is over, back to larp board faggot

[Anonymous No.13617535]

>>13617506
If you also think as a byproduct of this worldview the majority of individuals on earth a part of different races due to admixture, I don't disagree. Very few people define "british" as "a person with the exact genetic makeup of people directly after the introduction of saxon DNA" but rather "a person born and raised in britain." If the full extent of your argument is that every person with mixed ancestry has nothing in common with their parent races (even though they LITERALLY share the same DNA) then we have nothing to argue about, that's a difference of opinion.

[Anonymous No.13617545]

>>13617200
Andrew "3 minutes" Yang is a meme candidate and his book is fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.13617551]

>>13617506
Your particular valuation of nature IS arbitary

[Anonymous No.13617592]

>>13617288
>Yeah, his eyes are different, thus not 'merican. Trump 2020.
Kys

[Anonymous No.13617599]

>>13617421
Why bother? You know he doesn't have one. These people make this shit up as they go along. The only consistent thing about them is that they are deeply insecure and that brown people scare them on a visceral level.

[Anonymous No.13617604]

>>13617599
>brown people scare them

[Anonymous No.13617606]

>>13617592
Most trump supporters are civic nationalists anyways.

[Anonymous No.13617607]

>>13617599
It's the easiest way to remove all credibility. If nobody asks for a citation, some people will take everything he says for granted. 90% of the time they don't respond or post something like this >>13617426

[Anonymous No.13617623]

>>13617604
You know it's true. You're cowardly, useless, little boys who desperately cling to silly stories about race and some made-up glorious past your "race" had and derive pride from it because you know you have nothing else. It's comforting to know that demographics are destiny. We are building a better tomorrow and the most you can do is slow us down a little.

[Anonymous No.13617632]

>>13617607
>implying he's some sort of expert gremium that has the authority to approve or dismiss sources and studies
>implying he will truthfully engage with any sources posted or even accept them if they deliver
let's be honest, in cases like this asking for muh source is just a rhetorical device to disrupt the ongoing conversation.

[Anonymous No.13617634]

Love the guy for his policies, been a fan since march already and would without hesitation vote for him if he gets nominated but I doubt the book will actually be worth it. I would only buy it to directly support the campaign not expecting to learning much from reading it.

[Anonymous No.13617644]

>>13617623
based

[Anonymous No.13617646]

>>13617275
>Schenectady
yang will run for presirdent his entire life and be cucked from his own daughter

[Anonymous No.13617658]

>>13617632
In this case, it's more important to disrupt said conversation than attempt to actually argue against a source if it is posted. 4chan is generally not the place for intellectual discourse, any source posted supporting either world view can usually be dismissed easily. People here aren't convinced to change their opinions by sources, but rather memes, insults, and argumentation. It's especially true for crime stats, leftists can easily just say blacks are less educated/poor due to slavery, and rightists can just say they genetically have a lower IQ. I've stopped trying to convince people about stuff like this because it never ends up in a change of opinion, just two people continuously trying to get the high ground over eachother.

[Anonymous No.13617672]

>a thread about Yang and UBI that could be interesting derailed by retarded racist /pol/goloids yet again

You should all consider ending your lives for shitting up everything.

[Anonymous No.13617676]

>>13617658
>In this case, it's more important to disrupt said conversation
Why is it important? It doesn't achieve anything.

[Anonymous No.13617687]

>>13617394
So how come the United States which is the most culturally and genetically mixed country is also a global superpower?

[Anonymous No.13617711]

>>13617687
The United States is primarily a Anglo-German-Jew creation. The rest just inhabits it, like the Southern Europeans.

[Anonymous No.13617713]

>>13617676
It makes their viewpoints less credible, that's important IMO.

[Anonymous No.13617719]

>>13617713
It doesn't, you're thinking too highly of yourself and your random interjections on 4channel.

[Anonymous No.13617720]

>>13617200
Why do people like this guy?
Automation is a stupid meme and is not going to replace every job. UBI is a novel idea as a replacement to the bureaucratic mess that is the US welfare system -- Only problem is we shouldn't have welfare anyways, and he'd just end up adding UBI on top of the programs we already have.

[Anonymous No.13617724]

>>13617719
It has nothing to do with my self image, I think it's a pretty basic concept that if a belief is questioned with no response it becomes less credible. Would you disagree?

[Anonymous No.13617726]

>>13617687
>United States [is] a global superpower
*ahem*
not anymore

[Anonymous No.13617731]

>>13617724
>It has nothing to do with my self image
Doubt
>Would you disagree?
Yes

[Anonymous No.13617732]

>>13617720
>he'd just end up adding UBI on top of the programs we already have.
At least read his plan before criticizing it. If you go on UBI that makes you ineligible for any other type of welfare.

[Anonymous No.13617757]

>>13617732
>If you go on UBI that makes you ineligible for any other type of welfare.

How convenient. How do people not realize that this is precisely the shit that makes it obvious Yang is a neo-liberal shill for Silicon Valley?

[Anonymous No.13617760]

>>13617731
Based singlewordresponseposter

[Anonymous No.13617761]

>>13617388
Assimilated to what?

[Anonymous No.13617762]

>>13617757
>Yang is a neo-liberal shill for Silicon Valley
no lol

[Anonymous No.13617769]

>>13617762
Not an argument fag.

[Anonymous No.13617778]

>>13617769
>your statement is not an argument even though my statement is not an argument either

[Anonymous No.13617794]

>>13617592
fuck trump i'm talking pol pot for white people, revolutionary satanic genocide bro

[Anonymous No.13617804]

>>13617778
Wanting to cut all welfare is literally something both rich liberals and rich republicans agree on you fucking faggot.

If Yang argues that UBI is better than all the other current welfare programs, it's almost guaranteed that this is because his overlords have done the math and figured out it's cheaper for them to literally give the masses 1000 bucks than for them to pay for medicare/medicaid and social security.

If you actually fell for this shit, you're a delusional zoomer.

[Anonymous No.13617822]

>>13617804
If you're still the same person that was complaining about welfare and bureaucracy like a libertarian why are saying that cutting welfare is bad now?

[Anonymous No.13617855]

>>13617822
I am definitely not any kind of libertarian.

[Anonymous No.13617937]

>>13617804
That's really not an argument either. It might or might not be true, but you could say that about any social program. No matter how socialist a candidate is, you could claim that in the end it will be simply cheaper for the government. It is not a real argument without numbers.

I don't even say that you are wrong, simply that you provide no real proof or argument.

[Anonymous No.13617959]

>>13617937
My question is why anyone should support a candidate that wants to slash every welfare payment that already exists in favor of a direct handout that barely covers rent in large parts of the U.S.

[Anonymous No.13617985]

>>13617262
Lol? Foreigners can't be elected president of the US.

[Anonymous No.13617996]

>>13617255
>If we got UBI, I'm certain a vast amount of americans would move to the countryside and start farming
Funny you say that. That's exactly what I would do. It has been my dream for years now, but it's taking me forever to save enough money. You a fan of Wendell Berry?

[Anonymous No.13618013]

>>13617985
they might as well be at this point
>le free tendies chinaman
>socialist jew
>hindu amerimutt surfer/army brat
>fake injun succotash mommy
>schizo meditation mommy
>joe "i got caught diddling kiddies on video several times but i'm pro immigration so it's no big deal" biden
>beto "i had a skateboard and some punkrawk cd's in the 90's" o rourke
you'd have to be insane not to vote for trump and i'm not even an amerilard

[Anonymous No.13618043]

>>13618013
I'll take Bernie over Trump this time around. Trump didn't do fuckall to accelerate the contradictions in the system and stir up the hornet's nest. Bernie won't either, but I don't know, maybe he's so old he'll try to spite the establishment and actually do something real.

[Anonymous No.13618079]

>>13618013
>you'd have to be insane not to vote for trump
Yeah, you're obviously not American. If you were you'd have known about Trump and his contemptible business practices, his long history of failing to deliver on his promises. Only the ignorant, the willfully ignorant, or the deeply cynical can support Trump. He's shown time and again that he's not someone who can be relied upon. Americans have known about Trump long before he became president or appeared on his reality TV show. Just to show how untrustworthy, consider his promise that he would "drain the swamp" and help blue collar America. Well, what does he do once he's elected? He appoints a bunch of rich lobbyists and gives tax cuts for the rich that we have to pay for. The socialist jew is the only one who is committed to limiting the power of the corporations who have been destroying our country now for decades.

[Anonymous No.13618097]

>>13618079
>"tax cuts for the rich" canard
>appoints a bunch of rich lobbyist
who the fuck else is he supposed to appoint nigga, a bunch of broke hobos? lmao.

[Anonymous No.13618119]

>>13618097
For starters, not the people he said he was going to remove from politics. These Wall Street lobbyists are the people who have perverted our political process. Maybe instead of appointing people who are only looking out for their own interests he could have appointed people who are actually qualified for the job.

[Anonymous No.13618130]

>>13617732
I know, im saying that politically realistically it would just end up becoming another program on top of other welfare. But it isnt really realistic that Yang becomes president anyways. And his plan isnt popular with democrats.
Doesnt matter anyways because socialism is a shit idea

[Anonymous No.13618139]

>>13617356
It's amusing when American race-realists post this and then refuse to send niggers to Africa and themselves to Europe. Just look at how they treat Amerindians, who are the ones who evolved there.

[Anonymous No.13618146]

>>13618139
>Amerindians, who are the ones who evolved there.
They came from Asia initially.

[Anonymous No.13618155]

>>13618130
>socialism is a shit idea
UBI isn't socialism. As Yang says, it's capitalism except your income doesn't start at zero. Also it's long been popular among libertarians, who think that by giving people the $1000 indiscriminately you don't need the bloated bureaucracies monitoring recipients as you do with most welfare programs. You simply give them the money and they're free to do what they want with it. The hope is that it encourages entrepreneurship and stimulates economic growth by enabling people to consume more. For those who think consumers are already wasting too much money on things they don't need it's probably not a very attractive idea.

[Anonymous No.13618166]

>>13618139
The function of American "race-realism", is to make sure that the American upper class stays 100% white.

If it wasn't, /pol/goloids wouldn't constantly whine about "Hollywood Jews" and how rich and powerful Jews are in general. It's literally projection; their racism is literally just a gigantic butthurt at not being part of the ruling elite in society.

[Anonymous No.13618177]

>>13617273
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.13618179]

>>13618155
The only thing UBI would do in practice, is make landlords across America a lot of money.

[Raul No.13618206]

#20190811 CHINA MONASTERIO - El monasterio tibetano de Labrang, entre los mochileros y la paz interior - EFE
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[Anonymous No.13618216]

>>13618177
define white

[Anonymous No.13618218]

>>13618216
Pure Anglo

[Anonymous No.13618222]

>>13618216
blue eyes, european descent

[Anonymous No.13618225]

>>13618218
>>13618222
so i guess america is indeed a mutt land

[Anonymous No.13618229]

reminder:
white skin + brown hair = white
white skin + blonde hair = snownigger

[Anonymous No.13618240]

>>13618229
Reminder:
/pol/ = Low IQ mutts
/lit/ = High IQ purebloods

[Anonymous No.13618248]

>>13618240
>purebloods
how is your blood pure if it's full of HRT and HIV my nigga?

[Anonymous No.13618250]

>>13618248
At least we Europeans aren't 25% black, 25% Mexican, 25% Mayan and 25% European.

[Anonymous No.13618256]

>>13618240
/lit/ is mostly americans, and americans, by definition, can't be purebloods due to the mutty nature of their genetic makeup

[Anonymous No.13618261]

>>13618250
i'm european and not american.

[Anonymous No.13618264]

I've never met an intelligent person who cares about race. Anyone who has bothered studying genomics knows how arbitrary our racial divisions are.

[Anonymous No.13618266]

>>13617288
Decennial reminder that commodified, nostalgic, and antagonistic ethnic nationalism at this stage in the cosmic narrative is hubris.

[Anonymous No.13618278]

>>13618264
on the other hand, the only people i've met who rejected any sense of ethnos were manboobed midwits.

[Anonymous No.13618286]

>>13618278
The midwit is still far more intelligent than the race-obsessed dimwit. There are far more important and interesting things to spend your time thinking about.

[Anonymous No.13618293]

>>13618286
>racially aware = race-obsessed
>implying people spend every waking minute thinking about race
this is why your opinion is worthless

[Anonymous No.13618299]

>>13618293
I never implied such a thing, but racial discussions are common on 4chan, which suggests to me that a lot of people waste a lot of time thinking about race.

[Anonymous No.13618302]

>>13618278
>>13618278
Ethnos can mean many things though. For example, if someone in my country was born here and thus acted precisely like me culturally, and had all the same reference points, but incidentally they had black skin, I don't see how I can justify not calling them a member of my ethnos even if their genetics come from somewhere else. People really aren't their genetics in any social sense.

[Anonymous No.13618308]

>>13618302
thankfully in my country, an african will always be considered an african.

[Anonymous No.13618317]

>>13618308
Which is something you shouldn't be thankful for because it'll bite you in the ass in the future, just like it has in the United States.

[Anonymous No.13618327]

>>13617996
Hm, never heard of him

[Anonymous No.13618328]

>>13618317
enjoy your replacement in the name of progress, i guess.

[Anonymous No.13618331]

>>13618328
I'm not a progressive. I'm just not a racist.

[Anonymous No.13618343]

>>13618327
If you're interested in agrarianism you should check out his essays.

[Anonymous No.13618345]

>>13618331
>I'm just not a racist.
it'll bite you in the ass in the future

[Anonymous No.13618357]

>>13618345
No it won't. Identity politics needs to die.

[Anonymous No.13618359]

>>13618345
Sorry, but it's the construction of 2 antagonistic identities within the same country that produces problems. Which is not what I am for. I am for assimilation.

[Anonymous No.13618364]

>>13618357
>Identity politics needs to die.
They never will, you can bury that pipe dream right now.

[Anonymous No.13618375]

>>13617359
But this describes every American?

[Anonymous No.13618377]

>>13618364
>a racist engaging in pure fatalism

No wonder you guys shoot shit up. I bet you don't even have a job.

[Anonymous No.13618386]

>>13618377
>says identity politics NEED TO DIE
>"they won't, though"
>YOURE A SCHOOL SHOOTER INCEL RACIST POLTARD

[Anonymous No.13618397]

>>13618386
I'm gonna assume you're an adult, and if you are, you should know that history doesn't tell the tale of things staying the same way forever, so why should identity politics stopping be a pipe dream?

Just admit that you don't want it to stop you fucking faggot instead of feigning some kind of fatalism.

[Anonymous No.13618400]

>>13617726
In a thread full of retarded posts, you’ve managed to stand out as the most imbecilic. Congratulations!

[Anonymous No.13618401]

>>13618357
Whenever I read the term "identity politics" I see some fat tranny in a Mao shirt spitting venom before my inner eye

[Anonymous No.13618409]

>>13618397
If you're already referencing history in such a pompous way, you should at least be aware that identity and the quest for it has always been a part of awareness and a part of "being". You feeling uncomfortable with your own identity is not a valid reason why everyone else should be forced to give up theirs.

[Anonymous No.13618411]

>>13618401
Sadly identity politics is alive and well on the right and the left. The right has their wacky racial ideas just like the left has their wacky gender ideas. Both are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.13618422]

>>13617330
You're not a Brit. You're a guest.

[Anonymous No.13618444]

>>13617720
Because he's smart and honest enough to diagnose some real problems then prescribes more neoliberal bullshit to fix it.

[Anonymous No.13618455]

>>13618409
The question is why you think that your identity is under threat because your potential neighbor has a higher melanin count.

[Anonymous No.13618459]

>>13617356
>>13617405
Based

>>13617363
>>13617388
>white
Stop projecting mutt categories onto Europe

>>13617374
I suppose you'd do just fine in Antarctica, it being your native habitat?

[Anonymous No.13618466]

>>13618411
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.13618468]

>>13617720
He has some of that Yuval Noah Harari middlebrow flair that mediocre minds like to decorate themselves with to show that they are both intellectual and with the times

[Anonymous No.13618476]

>>13618455
>why is it a problem if my organically grown community and the social cohesion holding it together is being torn to shreds by a large influx of invaders who share nothing with me
Yeah, what's even the issue here? Let's nitpick about melanin, tee-hee.

[Anonymous No.13618494]

>>13618476
But that's the point. You can make these people share everything with you, and you can make them into people like yourself. That's the whole point of assimilation.

The only thing left after the immigrant has been assimilated is their skin color, and skin color is as retarded a metric to discriminate based on as red heads or short people.

[Anonymous No.13618533]

>>13618494
So you acknowledge that identity is a real thing but I just have to let go of it because fuck wh*toids, right?
>But that's the point. You can make these people share everything with you, and you can make them into people like yourself. That's the whole point of assimilation.
The fact that ethnic divide in the Americas, South Africa and parts of Europe still exists still exists (except in urbanite bourgeois circles where coexistence and multiculturalism are being pushed as cultural propaganda) just goes to show that assimilation works with those who are already very similar to yourself or if the foreign elements to be assimilated are introduced in absolutely miniscule amounts. Even Australia's cities are divided into ethnic neighborhoods.

>The only thing left after the immigrant has been assimilated is their skin color, and skin color is as retarded a metric to discriminate based on as red heads or short people.
Maybe you're successfully baiting, maybe you're just willfully pretending to be blind on race because it's part of your retarded egalitarian worldview but there's no way that you're genuinely believing this.

[Anonymous No.13618585]

>>13618533
>maybe you're just willfully pretending to be blind on race

Well, I have been trying to illustrate to you that the concept of race becomes meaningless the moment a person is culturally assimilated.

Do you think it makes sense to call Barack Obama a Kenyan? Because it doesn't. If he went back to Kenya, all the Kenyans he met would overprice their goods because he has no idea Kenyans engage in haggling.

And the same shit applies to white Americans. Nobody would call John Smith from New England a fucking Brit just because he moved back to Dorset. But his great-grandkids? They would certainly not be Americans.

[Anonymous No.13618595]

>>13618585
>Do you think it makes sense to call Barack Obama a Kenyan? Because it doesn't. If he went back to Kenya, all the Kenyans he met would overprice their goods because he has no idea Kenyans engage in haggling.

[Anonymous No.13618607]

>>13618595
The point is, he’s right. Your ancestry effectively means jackshit when it comes to your overall cultural assimilation. Race has some attributes that effectively separate people generally, none can differ in that, but I think culture is obviously so important that a black Brit wouldn’t get along with the black youth of America like a white aristocrat from America would :3

[Anonymous No.13618608]

>>13618595
It's true though. Nobody in Kenya would think Obama was a Kenyan, just like I, being Norwegian, don't think Minnesotans are Norwegians, even though a lot of their genes come from Norway.

Which is my whole point. You think that your national identity is under some kind of threat because of immigration, when the likely scenario is that the culture they bring with them is the culture that will be destroyed, which is what history actually shows.

Blacks in America, are American. They aren't Hutu or Tutsi, or Yoruba or Kenyan or Somali. They are Americans.

[Anonymous No.13618613]

>>13618595
No higher form of argumentation than a green frog holding a book

[Anonymous No.13618618]

>>13618585
>Do you think it makes sense to call Barack Obama a Kenyan? Because it doesn't. If he went back to Kenya, all the Kenyans he met would overprice their goods because he has no idea Kenyans engage in haggling.
Barry would just claim the Kenyan government is violating human rights, bomb the place, take their shit for free and then instruct the media to blame it on the guy that came after him.

[Anonymous No.13618624]

>>13618608
You're pretending to be retarded and it's pretty obivous.

[Anonymous No.13618628]

>>13618618
Which is typical American behavior and not Kenyan behavior tbqh.

[Anonymous No.13618633]

>>13618624
And you aren't even pretending to have arguments, you just have none.

[Anonymous No.13618651]

>>13618633
>And you aren't even pretending to have arguments, you just have none.
I've made my case pretty clear and all I got from you is a failed attempt to dress up your lack of arguments with relativist verbiage. Enjoy your black Norwegians, though.

[Anonymous No.13618657]

>>13618651
You didn't even make a case, you just garbled "foreign invaders" and think this constitutes argumentation.

Which is typical of your ilk. Whenever you get the shit kicked out of you in a serious debate you shit-for-brains always concede that you don't care about debates nor argumentation in the first place.

[Anonymous No.13618663]

>>13617200
>>13617255
>>13617996
>>13618155
So it's $1000/month for kids too right? Because my family has 8 people but only makes $5000/month. Time to accelerate?

[Anonymous No.13618670]

>>13618608
lmao, typical scandicuck

[Anonymous No.13618690]

>>13618657
Anon, this is not what happened here and you know that exactly. Your emotionally charged language is just proof of you being disgusted by your own dishonesty right now.

[Anonymous No.13618706]

>>13618690
You got your shit shoved in /pol/goloid so it's time to stop talking.

[Anonymous No.13618727]

>>13618608
>just like I, being Norwegian
The eternal Scandinavian...
>I don't think Minnesotans are Norwegians
They're rapidly becoming pic relateds, thanks to the eternal Scandinavian.

[Anonymous No.13618739]

>>13618727
So Somalis can't become American?

[Anonymous No.13618746]

>>13618739
No.
Clearly even allowing Scandoids to become "American" was a mistake...

[Anonymous No.13618748]

>>13618706
>s-shut up!+1!!
There, there.

[Anonymous No.13618749]

>>13618746
American isn't an ethnicity, retard. Somalians are as american as any other group. You don't have a history, you don't have a culture.

[Anonymous No.13618752]

>>13618746
>No.

Well you're just factually incorrect. Just like you would be if you said the same thing of Italians or Germans or Chinese.

[Anonymous No.13618760]

>>13618749
lol at trying to erase over 400 years of Anglos living in America and creating a history and culture. I can only assume you're one of those thrifty fellows.

[Anonymous No.13618761]

>>13618749
American definitely is an ethnicity. People have been living there for over 400 years.

[Anonymous No.13618762]

>>13618749
>Somalians are as american as any other group.
I'm pretty sure most Americans pre-1968 or so would be baffled by this statement.

[Anonymous No.13618768]

>>13618494
What a bunch of cliché-ridden and meaningless tripe.

[Anonymous No.13618772]

>>13618762
Most Americans pre-1900 would also be baffled by the idea that a Sicilian or an Irishman could be American.

And yet they are both Americans today and nobody even thinks about it.

[Anonymous No.13618776]

>>13618772
Yeah and how well did that work out? The Sicilians gave us the Mafia and the Irish, the police. To this day there's still Irish nepotism in Boston and half of them LARP as real Irishmen and fund the IRA.

[Anonymous No.13618785]

>>13618663
Just for adults.

[Anonymous No.13618788]

>>13618155
Totally disagree. When you give people the means to live comfortably without earning it they become lazy. Why do you think rich kids are notorious for being lazy fucks? Same applies to the average middle class American, no work ethic.
>>13618468
Exactly, Harari is the ultimate midwit magnet. He just gives you little quips that make you sound smart around people that havent looked into the field.

[Anonymous No.13618790]

>>13618776
It worked as well as it could given the circumstances. The history of the U.S from 1900-til 1990 is the history of a country that went from 90% of the population being poor as shit to being a rich, global superpower with 50000 nuclear weapons.

And yet here I'm supposed to be impressed by the /pol/goloid idea that ethnostates are somehow superior, even though the most powerful ethnostate in history was completely destroyed and lost so hard that they still hate themselves for losing 80 years later.

[Anonymous No.13618792]

>>13618772
america basically died in the 20th century and became a muliracial empire. The only group that ever somewhat assimilated in the 19th were the Germans, the eastern euros and meds never did, the culture itself just was swallowed up in the insanity of that century. There are still people with a vague connection to the old cultures of the south, new england, the midwest, texas, etc that exist today, but it's a bit of a meme in comparison to how much the increasingly globalized mass culture controls everything.

[Anonymous No.13618802]

>>13618790
there are not a lot of data points for ethnostates with modern technology, but places like Japan and Norway, very homogenous high iq populations, seem to do pretty well.

[Anonymous No.13618815]

>>13618772
The bit about "Irish not being American" is a bit of a lie, Ireland was a part of Britain and the Irish were disproportionately represented in the Continental Army.

>>13618776
Reminder that the Taoiseach is the ONLY world leader guaranteed a state visit with the President every year and Irish-descended Congressmen often push for pro-Ireland legislation like Paul Ryan's Irish visa bill as he was leaving office.

[Anonymous No.13618859]

>>13618802
Japan and Norway are literally countries where people barely have replacement level of children, which sounds like a culture that has given up on itself and not a society that should be emulated.

[Anonymous No.13618881]

>>13618859
"replacement level" is a meme enforced by neo-liberal economists and those who pay their salaries.

[Anonymous No.13618883]

>>13618859
So much this. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

[Anonymous No.13618896]

>>13618881
>infinite growth
>replacement level
>we need immigrants
How to pimp out and ruin a nation in three steps.

[Anonymous No.13618901]

>>13617262
>america
>your own race

[Anonymous No.13618917]

>>13618881
>>13618896
This is the law: things grow, or they die. If a nation wants to succeed, it grows its population. If it does not or cannot, it becomes the bitch of its more powerful neighbors and eventually disappears. /pol/ worship of Japan is pants-on-head retarded, just like weeb worship of Japan.

[Anonymous No.13618925]

>>13618917
Japan won't die, retard.

[Anonymous No.13618940]

>>13618859
The only country that doesnt suck with replacement is Israel, who while not an ethnostate, are hyper aware of their ethnicity.

[Anonymous No.13618947]

>>13618917
>worship
I said they were doing pretty well. I dont care about japs at all, ive read like 3 of their novels and that's the extent of my engagement with their culture, but their country still runs well. im aware they have lots of problems as well.

[Anonymous No.13618961]

>>13618455
>race is only about skin color

[Anonymous No.13619111]

>>13618940
>immigrants need to pass genetic screening.
>not an ethnostate
What is it then?

[Anonymous No.13619226]

>>13618961
ummm sweetie, yes it is

[Anonymous No.13619321]

>>13617235
Nonsense. You'll never hear the end of Chinese talking about how it's the "Chinese century" if an Asian became president now

[Anonymous No.13619331]

>>13617354
You goddamn stupid chimpanzee

[Anonymous No.13619340]

>>13617200
>ubi
Never gonna happen, such is not the path of efficiency. It’s just a liberal cope.

[Anonymous No.13619391]

>>13618788
The whole idea behind $1000 though is that it's not enough to live comfortably, especially if you live in a city. It's just a little extra security, perhaps a little more disposable income. Right now the average American doesn't even have $500 to spare.

[Anonymous No.13619396]

>>13619391
The reason yang didn’t get any traction offering yangbux is because welfare whores already make more than 1000 a month and we’re going to take a hit. You would have had the average people voting against the rich and the poor.

[Anonymous No.13619398]

>>13617262
>vote for someone who represents your own race
Who do you have in mind?

[Anonymous No.13619769]

>>13619398
Honestly you guys should ban all dual citizens from political office, I don't know how on earth dual loyalties are seen as ok

[Anonymous No.13619875]

>>13618459
>Stop projecting mutt categories onto Europe
Why would he do that when Europe is mutt central.
>"Frenchmen" of Spanish, Italian, and Jewish descent
>"Englishmen" of Welsh and Irish descent
>Germans of god knows what

[Anonymous No.13620195]

>>13617506
I believe the Normans greatly shaped Britain. As did the Vikings to a certain extent. Since Anglo Saxons originate from Northern Europe, can I, as a Norwegian, pass as a Brit?

[Anonymous No.13620406]

>>13617200
Not American but I find Yang impressive.

I think he has the most accurate view of the future of American than any of the other candidates.

[Anonymous No.13620424]

>>13617262
>your own race
I though /lit/ was relatively free of this kind of brainlets

[Anonymous No.13620521]

>>13617711
That's still culturally diverse though. Unless you actually believe Europe is one culture like the brainless american /pol/tard you are.
Also, one can argue that America is still very diverse ethnically and racially. Literally 12% of the population are permanent citizens that have been there since the countries conception(black Amerians). The only country in the world that surpasses the U.S. in terms of racial diversity is brazil.
>inb4 memes about how Brazil is shit
Yeah but, there is literally only one country that surpasses you in terms of racial diversity, that says a lot.

[Anonymous No.13620648]

>>13619321
>You'll never hear the end of Chinese talking about how it's the "Chinese century" if an Asian became president
this
/aznmasculinity will never shut the fuck up if a chink leads the US and China

[Anonymous No.13620649]

>>13617275
>what is sleeper agent

[Anonymous No.13620718]

A dog born in a stable is not a horse.

[Anonymous No.13621079]

>>13620424
we took over a long time ago

[Anonymous No.13621194]

>>13620424
If you’re a minority and believe in race you’re a brainlet, if you’re white and believe in race minorities are brainlets. You just can’t win.

[Anonymous No.13621231]

>>13617200
It's not a bad book, but it's written from a limited and pozzed perspective of a mainstream politician. So he cannot really speak his mind freely, but has to be tactical.

[Anonymous No.13621336]

>>13617330
YOU'RE NOT BRITISH
FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL GYPPO CUNT

[Anonymous No.13621385]

>>13617262
You're right, don't listen to these morons. Civic nationalism is a scam. They'll realise it soon enough when they'll get their throat cut by their muslim "countrymen" in their own streets.

[Anonymous No.13621450]

>>13618760
>>13618761
>Americans think 400 years is enough time to have a history

[Anonymous No.13621464]

I guarantee that the majority of the Americans in this thread are not Natives and should therefore fuck off back to Europe.

[Anonymous No.13621478]

>>13621464
then get the shitskins out of europe

[Anonymous No.13621509]

>>13621464
>>13621478
Honestly not sure if I would trade the shitskins for burgers.
By the way, it was the burger who got us into all of this mess in the first place.

[Anonymous No.13621521]

>>13621509
It's not even the stupid Americans fault for derailing my thread. It's your fault for responding to him.

[Anonymous No.13621774]

>>13621450
>eurotards think they have any relation whatever to their medieval progenitors
lmao