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Is it actually possible to get rid of depression for good? Just imagine how great it would be to live in such a world where everything is fine and normal

>> No.13611624

Depression is a misnomer, what you are experiencing is more aptly termed despair. Despair is a spiritual ailment and can only be cured by reconciling yourself with the Lord and understanding that no historical event - past, present, or future - is beyond His Providence. Have faith, anon, for the Lord watches over you and would never send you into a trial you were not equipped to overcome.
>Inb4 the masses of dysfunctional, depressive nihilists call me a christcuck

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Think of depression like happiness; it’s a side effect of what your actions produce. Happiness should be basked in but not your goal; you should not merely pursue happiness. Depression is the opposite as it comes and should be learned from and used as incentive to do better. If the world were a way where everything was fine and normal then it would be hard to find meaning and purpose. It would be a mundane experience. Seek fulfillment.

>> No.13611638

>>13611608
Yes, it can be done (at least is working for me so far). I would give you an advice that had worked for me. There are two things in this world, the truth and how you handle that truth aka "reality". my advice is to accept the truth and handle it in a joyful way.

>> No.13613407

>>13611608
Lift hard, eat good, sleep well, define your passions and set goals, keep friends and family close, learn a lot, socialize even more, get spiritual, grow your own spices and food, travel, express yourself through art, music or dance, unironically have sex, abstain from porn, process and fix your emotional problems and traumas, and tell your mom you love her.

It's sunny on the other side anon, even if you can't see it now. The most important things for me are keeping my body healthy which gives me my mental clarity

>> No.13613416

>>13611629
This. But what if I've been depressed for so long, that a change like that makes me feel wrong?

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>>13611608
Raise your IQ. Don't ask me how.

>> No.13613448

No, but you can control it. As someone who is Bipolar; if you can recognize when your depression is affecting your daily life, take the necessary steps to correct it. Fight the urge to wallow in self pity and despair. It’s tough, but you can do it.

>> No.13613456

>>13613440
how?

>> No.13613476

Nothing worked for me except getting antidepressants, and I had to try like three different ones before finding one that worked

>> No.13613484

>>13613456
The Bible

>> No.13613486

>>13611624
>dude gods plan! everything bad is a challenge just for you!

I hate this narcissistic American individualist shit
Yeah go tell an unbaptised toddler who gets raped and decapitated by a pedophile that it was all just a fun test from God for character development

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>>13611608
Try doing shrooms to cure your depression

>> No.13613612

>>13613507
this

>> No.13614481

>>13613486
the true redpill is that god is a psychopath

>> No.13614538

>>13613448
What should I do when I feel the urge to wallow myself up in despair and think about things that hurt me?

>> No.13614541

What do nondepressed peiple even think about? It’s hard for me to comprehend some people don’t deal with this. What’s going on in their heads?

>> No.13614545

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. If you're actually committed to it and work hard, you will see massive improvements in the positivity of your mental state. But don't go in half-assing it and being surprised when it doesn't work.

>> No.13614579

>>13614538
Reframe your mindset and tell yourself being miserable doesn’t help you. That’s what I tell myself. I can be as miserable as I want, but honestly, I’d rather be happy instead, so I’ll force myself to avoid the misery and seek what makes me happy, even if it’s superficial.

>> No.13614608

>>13614579
thats called cope anon.

>> No.13614931

>>13614545
This.. and backup support through some kind of religious or spiritual calling.

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You'll get more depressed until you find an strategy. Why do not have people doing all the work and dependng on you?. That's good if you launch an API thread

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Hello please create API code as fast as you can launch 4chan API thread

>> No.13614992

I am a big fan of Meditation and it can also be really benificial to take Psychedelics every now and then.

>> No.13615010

>>13611608

technically speaking:

depression is anger directed towards self

one would have to identify the root cause first

>> No.13615012

>>13611608
Yes time is the best healer. Also if you get rid of the cause of your depression then it should go away. For example if you want women you can try reading MRA material then you will grow to hate them and not want them anymore, which should fix your depression.

>> No.13615016

I mean user password not needed in the post

>> No.13615021

>>13611608
No. It's part of the chemical makeup of your brain and part of your emotional framework. Treating it as something to be overcome or fought is just going to turn you against yourself and make things worse. You should instead treat it as an aspect of your life that you should make efforts to abate and cope with. Seek therapy and medication (if necessary). Learn what triggers your depression and recognize the thought patterns that are indications you're having an episode. Build a support network and make efforts in your life to not let it define you as a person. I have struggled with this for years and it's truly a challenge. I'm sorry you have to deal with this.

>> No.13615024

>>13611624
Even if you're just christcuck role-playing, this advice is terrible to tell someone struggling with a mental illness you fuck.

>> No.13615092

A few years ago I was able to cure my depression with meditation, but it was not a permanent fix. I was happy for about a week and then I slipped back into sadness. I don't blame meditation for this. I think that's just the way it goes. You have to keep at it.

But during that week I saw the benefits of meditation and realized how it worked. A few points:
- Meditation is like training for your mind. It gives you the power to control your thoughts. Without meditation I was at the mercy of whatever thoughts flowed into my head (and I thought being at the mercy of my mind was just how living worked), but with meditation I was able to control that flow, even stop it entirely.
- Meditation gurus talk about "seeing things as they truly are" and what I think they mean by that is that thoughts cloud perception and create an "overlay." When you get rid of the overlay, you feel as though you're seeing clearly for the first time.
- A problem isn't a real problem if it goes away when you stop thinking about it, and a lot of my problems were of that nature.
- I realized that, previously, I was absolutely convinced that I knew what was going on in other people's heads. And what I thought was there was angering me. For instance, my father. I would sometimes get angry thinking about what I thought he was thinking, when in reality there was no way I could possibly know what was going on in his head.

Anyway, this great week of happiness and epiphanies didn't last forever. My thoughts clouded over again, and even right now I'm currently depressed. But I glimpsed that meditation can help and I urge you to try it.

>> No.13615307

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>> No.13615340

>>13615307
thats gonna be a yikes from me bro

>> No.13615352

I had clinical depressions (with suicide intentions) for over 10 years, then went to a hospital for 3 months to get real treatment. That was in 2011, and I haven't had depressions since.

It's possible. But you have to work actively to get rid of them.

>> No.13615371

>>13615092
Good post. I've wanted to start meditating for a while but I always get distracted or put it off for some bullshit reason. What kind of meditation did you use?

>> No.13615385

>>13611629
I’d argue it’s not a byproduct of your actions but rather a dull, grey screen that obscures the true value of your actions and the beauty of your ideas from yourself. To think of it as “produced” in some sense as a result of your behaviour is to assign it undue causality.

>> No.13615388

>>13615371
I guess it would be called Vipassana. I simply focused on bodily sensations and my breath and when my mind wandered I brought it back. For many years I had been practicing in a different way, striving to remain detached from my thoughts while still allowing them to flow. In retrospect all that was happening was I was getting lost in thought. I think there are real meditations like this, but I didn't much out of that method. When I took a more active approach I saw results.

>> No.13615392

>>13611624
Or, y’know, maybe he’s just depressed and you’re trying to circumscribe some kind of deeper spiritual significance to it, when in reality despair and depression are nothing like each other.

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>>13615307

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Why are depressed anons always out of shape? Take care of your meat suit.

>> No.13615399

>>13611608
/lit/ - whine about your problems

>> No.13615400

>>13615398
When you are depressed, you
a) don't care and
b) don't have the energy.

>> No.13615401

>>13611608
Go to a shrink, take meds

>> No.13615405

>>13611624
>Depression is a misnomer, what you are experiencing is more aptly termed despair. Despair is a spiritual ailment and can only be cured by
... finding meaning.
the part about christ is absolute cringe.

>> No.13615410

I don’t know how often I have to say this
Just take psychedelics

>> No.13615425

>>13615307
fuck fuck fucking fuck fuck fuck fucks no fuck fucking what the fucking fuck fuck

>> No.13615433

>>13611608
I got rid of depression by suppressing my emotions for 3 years and read tons of stoic philosophy. I made an emotion journal where I would put down how I felt numerically and would always make sure I was somewhere in the middle. It's difficult at first but then I was able to take control of my emotions and now can switch them on and off. Also I don't feel much anymore so I don't know if it's a good thing or not but I'm definitely 10000% more productive in life.

>> No.13615444

>>13615425
didn't listen to it, what's up with it

>> No.13615447

>>13615433
To add on to this, I learned a new language to stop ruminating in my native language. Whenever I felt a sadness surge come on I would just learn foreign vocab.

>> No.13615452

>>13615444
just learned the word "fuck" i guess

>> No.13615465

>>13615433
>Also I don't feel much anymore so I don't know if it's a good thing or not but I'm definitely 10000% more productive in life.

I don't feel much anymore but I'm not very productive. I could be out at the beach learning to swim, or reading for a personal project, practicing guitar or piano, and what not but I just don't have the motivation to. Indifference isn't working out for me, I want to feel happy and sad and anxious and excited.
I'll see a shrink in a few weeks, I'd reccomend the same to OP.
>Inb4: Ur lazy
It's not laziness, anhedonia is the first symptom of depression.

>> No.13615468

the absolute worst thing is not depression, it's when you literally don't want to do anything, you literally have zero motivation to do anything productive or semi-productive whatsoever

>> No.13615619

>>13611608
>Is it actually possible to get rid of depression for good?
Yes - by continually giving expression, and receiving impression - by being in constant motion.

>> No.13615631

>>13615619
deep

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Read Nietzsche.
Abandon theories of the True World.
Throw off the shackles of slave morality.
Embrace Amor Fati and eternal recurrence.
Strive for the Appollian ideal.
Use your ressentiment to work for you.
Exercise your will to power in its ture meaning.

>> No.13615646

>>13615468
What the fuck do you think depression is, you fucking retard?

>> No.13615653

The worst thing is actually self-pity.

>> No.13615655

Most depression stems from uncharismatic thought such as: I can't work out, I can't find a job, nobody will love me.
Replace that with charismatic thought such as: Whilst in my bedroom I can do push ups. Or I can study another language using duolingo. Or I can take cold showers.
Once you become skilled in a few areas the chances of falling in love increases exponentially. Stop feeling pity for your self nobody else will help you out.

>> No.13615675

>>13615646
sorry I've offended you that you resort to using obscenities lol

>> No.13615685

>>13615655
it's not so easy as
>lol just go to the gym
>go travel

>> No.13615701

>>13615307
Ever heared of black choler/melancholy? Ancient people already had a name and cause for depression. They said the reason people suffered from depression was a excess of it. Also there are a lot of people who suffered from it before even hearing from anybody what it is(like me). So, saying it's just placeabo, isn't true. But sure thing buddy, go on believing depression is a strategy the chinese used to con you.

>> No.13615712

>>13615655
What if ones depression is due to anhedonia? Or due to something like a the inability to care about anything?

>> No.13615808

>>13611608
>Is it actually possible to get rid of depression for good? Just imagine how great it would be to live in such a world where everything is fine and normal
You need to ask yourself why you are depressed and what it would mean to you for there to be a world where everything is fine and normal and you could attain happiness.
Happiness is simply a word we created when someone reaches a goal that they created and Despair for when these goals seem unattainable no matter how much effort is spent.
If everything would have been made that all their needs would be fullfilled without effort there would be no true happiness simply due to the fact that the effort to attain them would be negligible and simply unsatisfying.
The only reason you are aware that there is a possibility for happiness is that you are now experiencing the other side of that happiness in which you have not yet attained it.
So my question for you is anon, what would make you happy ?

>> No.13615831

>>13613476
>He took the pill pill
Yikes

>> No.13615838

>>13615024
fuck off tranny