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I am taking the final redpill. What am I in for?

>> No.13606717

>>13606714
Far from the final redpill

>> No.13606725

Guenon BTFO'd those hacks

>> No.13606728

There's a space beyond Deleuze.

>> No.13606837

>>13606725
Guenon is a dumb reactionary islamaboo larper

>> No.13606846

Reading like 10 pages each until the meme high wears off and you move on to your next endorphin spike

>> No.13606946

>>13606717
What is it then?

>> No.13607068

>deleuze
Cringe and bluepilled

>> No.13607086

>>13606946
Gnosticism

>> No.13607238

>>13607086
Deleuze is a Gnostic though

>> No.13607307

>>13606946
campus conservatism

>> No.13607532

>>13606714
Pascal rejected Spinoza and thus Whitehead and Deleuze by extension

>> No.13607641

>>13606946
Terence McKenna

>> No.13607646

>>13607641
now that is a hack

>> No.13607650

>>13606946
You can not be told the final one you can only find it. its plato

>> No.13607709

>>13606946
Valentine Tomberg

>> No.13607713

>>13606846
Kek

>> No.13607734

>>13606714
>deleuze
he doesn't deserve to stand with those giants, or even be thought of with spinoza. burn it.

>> No.13607749

>>13606714
how is this the "final redpill" exactly? good shit besides whitehead though. haven't read the logic of sense myself, sort of want to

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>>13606946

>> No.13607983

>>13607749
whitehead is the final boss

>> No.13607989

>>13606946
Treading through your version of fear.

>> No.13608038
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13608038

>>13606946
Thomas Aquinas.

>> No.13608236

>>13608038
Hack

>> No.13608241

>>13608236
He indeed did hack the human brain, consciousness, reason, understanding, and perfected our knowledge of these.

>> No.13608251

>>13606946
Ben Shapiro

>> No.13608256

>>13608241
No, I mean he has no discernible talent

>> No.13608260

>>13606714
Frankly if Whitehead's metaphysics are correct it's a sad state of affairs.

>> No.13608275

>>13608260
the opposite

>> No.13608281

>>13608260
the opposite

>> No.13608283

yea good luck reading ethics. that books is exclusively for autists

>> No.13608308

>>13608275
I don't know if I've misapprehended Whitehead, but Whitehead seems to define reality in terms of processes of which the human experience is one. By defining them in terms of processes and occasions of experience he obviously mitigates the hard problem but it seems to me that he also creates a framework within which death in a permanent sense is logically possible, because "our" consciousness is contained within one of these processes and the occasions of experience that seem to define us can only exist between birth and death, the start and end of the process. That process of becoming (the self) having ended, there is no transcendant self. I know Whitehead's metaphysics include God but that seems to me to be an uncomfortable afterthought that isn't necessarily entailed by the metaphysics themselves.

>> No.13608320

>>13608308
t. knows about Whitehead by browsing /lit/ and scrolling through his wikipedia page

>> No.13608326

>>13608320
Okay but that's not an argument. If Whitehead's metaphysics contain some kind of transcendant element I more than welcome it but it seems to me that there's something pretty bleak lurking in it.

>> No.13608342

>>13606946
Contributism
Traditionalism
Communitarianism
Mishima
Kaczynski

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>>13608256

>> No.13608361

>>13608326
If your view of the transcendent is alabaster white, then it's really just the classic whitewashed tomb encasing a dirtier, more fundamental lie (a more direct expression of inexpressability, i.e. a more refined double metaphor). You need to engage with the Ridiculous Sublime.

>> No.13608370

>>13608361
>If your view of the transcendent is alabaster white
Doesn't have to be, and you didn't answer my question.

>> No.13608374

>>13608326
I dont know a whole lot about whitehead but from what ive read/heard i think death is something that is left as mostly a mystery in his thought and something to be explored. I think he saw death as still being part of life itself and from what I heard from someone who studies whitehead is that reincarnation is something that is a possibility in his thought as in we become something other and still live within part or the universe.

but yeah do your own reading and dont take this to heart because as i said I dont know a whole lot about whitehead either.

>> No.13608383

>>13608370
I'll answer as long as you ask. What's your question?

>> No.13608392

whitehead is like peirce but a dilettante. learn the categories and semieotic, then go back to the 1890s monist papers if you want a process cosmology that's worth a shit.
there is a reason why whitehead is a meme and peirce is a sign

>> No.13608396

>>13608383
The question really is: What do Whitehead's metaphysics say about the transcendant, specifically what do they have to say about life after death? My understanding is that they don't say very much at all and are open to some very uncomfortable possibilities.

>> No.13608464

>>13608396
I don't think that's what your question really is, and I think you're asking for more than a single answer at once. I can tell you that "you ought to think more about Decay than Death," but it won't mean much to you or anyone else here, however well read. I can leave you with this, though:
>General aspect: it was the instinct of the fatigue of living and not that of life,
which created the "other world."
>Result: philosophy, religion, and morality are symptoms of decadence.
He was a fan of Nietzsche, a very close admirer. And a staunch vitalist:
>There is only one subject matter for education, and that is Life in all its manifestations
I don't like answering multiple questions at once, so I'll leave you with just this.

>> No.13608470

>>13608396
You see anon, placing importance on the transcendent or "afterlife" is part of what Whitehead calls the fallacy of misplaced concreteness, there is no permanent abiding self. Instead it is incumbent upon us to accept our existence as fleeting illusions, no more than than temporary soap bubbles swirling down the drain in the bathtub of the Process. Give up! embrace nothingness, you are only a process after all, down with tradition! Let im all the refugees and become transgender, by rejecting anything to do with order we fill our cosmic objective. Nothing can be truly known as all knowledge outside of sensory data is pointless speculation about mistaken ideas of "permanence", embrace hedonism, we exist only to fry our dopamine receptors before we are inevitably chewed up by the maw.

>> No.13608497

>>13608464
>I don't think that's what your question really is
No it is.

>> No.13608505

>>13607709
Too enlightened for the board desu

>> No.13608506

>>13608470
>Instead it is incumbent upon us to accept our existence as fleeting illusions
Yeah, and that's a problem. I guess that's why you follow up with a sarcastic rant.

>> No.13608527

I havent read Whitehead yet but I really liked this video. The guy makes a lot of other videos on Whitehead as well.
https://youtu.be/BHztIS9kdVY

>> No.13608549

>>13608497
In that case, I think I might have accidentally answered it. Oh well.

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>>13606946

>> No.13608915

Bump

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>>13606946
You already know what it is.

1488. Seig Heil

>> No.13608935

>>13606946
Moldbug

>> No.13608939

>>13606946
Realizing the analytics were right all along.

>> No.13608944

>>13606714
You're gonna understand nothing

>> No.13608954

>>13608470
>accept our existence as fleeting illusions
What about circular/repeating processes that continue for eternity? Like how the Greeks thought the fixed stars were gods endlessly repeating their movement in eternal circles as perfect spheres, and that we should strive to become

>> No.13608973

>>13606714
The logic of sense is hard, sure, but it's easier than Process and Reality.

>> No.13608994

>>13608954
>Like how the Greeks thought the fixed stars were gods endlessly repeating their movement in eternal circles as perfect spheres, and that we should strive to become
the greeks were such autists

>> No.13609002

>>13606946
Ending back with the Greeks.

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>>13608994
>t. brain damaged by urban light pollution denying you vision of the heavens
If the fixed stars aren't gods dancing in eternal perfect circles then how and why do they do this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nam90gorcPs

>> No.13609023

>>13609011
i meant it with love anon, and having lived in the country before I do miss the stars a lot, though I like the blackness as well.

>> No.13609095

>>13609023
I say we smash all telescopes and return to dogmatic Hellenism.

>> No.13609113

>>13609095
i daydream all the all time about an unclear but romanticized nomadic forest existence saturated with pagan animism. used to write poems about this, it was more about such a people existing in the past when the world was much less populated

>> No.13609144

>>13606946
Giving less of a shit, being yourself unironically, and just being happy.

>> No.13609155

>>13606714

Top two were both wrong about god OP. Haven't read the others.

>> No.13609208

>>13606714
my professor translated The Logic of Sense, and I love him!

>> No.13609449

Bump

>> No.13609820

Bump

>> No.13609864

>>13606725
Nice meme, fat chance.

>> No.13609907

>>13609208
suck his ass faggot, no one care

>> No.13610104

>>13608939
retard go back to /g/ get off my board stem bugman faggot

>> No.13610117

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>> No.13610241

>>13606714
You're not going to read any of those.

>> No.13610246

>>13607983
there's no "final boss" in philosophy, moron

>> No.13610288

>>13609907
This place feels like home

>> No.13610775

>>13606946
the Joe Rogan Experience

>> No.13610788

>>13610117
have sex

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13610833

>>13606946
To become pic related.

>> No.13610847

>>13606714
Read Langan

>> No.13610852

>>13607238
atheist not gnostic

>> No.13611357

Bump

>> No.13611405

is the red blue pill meme the ultimate collective conscious broad hint that we are ruled by chemistry companies and they even rule how you approach knowledge, through taking pills.
Everything is dominated by chemistry companies, the food you eat makes them money, the clothes you wear, big pharma is nothing without them, petrol business comes close but they are making business hand in hand.

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>>13606946
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

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13611476

I am doing some light summer-reading. What am I in for?

>> No.13611490

>>13606714
>Spinoza
based
>Deleuze
cringe

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>>13608038
>Aquinas
>posts chad face

>> No.13612540

>>13609144
> being yourself
What is that?

>> No.13612544

>>13611790
Based

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>>13606946

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>>13606714
>"dude like everything be process n shiet lmao"
>cannot even distinguish process from activity

>> No.13613415

>>13606714
I lifetime supply of virginity.

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>>13606946
Rational trigonometry

>> No.13613422

>>13613410
>cant even read real books and learns philosophy from one lined 4channel shit posts

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>>1361147
>Murakami
>Stoker's Dracula
>Books on sketching & painting
Throw that away & get a copy of this.
>Kafka
That's some good stuff.
>Chaucer
Some tales are good, some are kind of outdated-ish.

>> No.13613966

>>13606946
reading children's books
unrionically

>> No.13614081

Why does everyone have that version of Spinoza's ethics. I thought the Curley translation was the best. Pls respond since I just bought the Curley translation and now I'm having second thoughts

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>>13606946
Pure mathematics