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Which version should I read for my first time?

>> No.13601842
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13601842

Depends. Most translations are fine, people who get tribal about them often have a poor understanding of the text in the first place and don't realise that there can never be a "best" translation, each has different qualities.

>> No.13601868

>>13601765

The King James version has the most stylistic import.

>> No.13601878
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13601878

Consider getting one with a checklist, or print your own.

>> No.13601906

>>13601878
Is this better than reading it in order?

>> No.13602141

>>13601906
Reading it order often means running out of steam as you try to get through Leviticus and Numbers. So some kind of organized reading plan to intersperses a few chapters the dry Law and History stuff while progressing with more interesting parts can be recommended. The OT can be tough without a plan, but the NT is pretty easy to read in order.

>> No.13602182

>>13601765
King James is the only sensible answer on a literary board.

>> No.13602237

Catholic editions of the RSV and ESV are the most convenient contemporary translations for the amount books they contain and literalness of their translation. If you're thinking about the KJV you should probably take a look at the ASV then since it was a revision of the KJV translation based on later discoveries in textual research.

>> No.13602248

>>13601765
None of them. It sucks. Just read Ecclesiastes and Luke and Acts

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>>13602248
They'll still be in a version of the Bible though.

>> No.13602382

>>13602248
Luke is an embellished rewrite meant to appeal to the sensibilities of prissy Hellenes and Acts sounds like a fanciful adventure story. Mark is the grittier bare bones account and John has a mystical appeal. The rest of the Pauline epistles are pretty profound and eloquent.

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>>13601878
>week 52

You can read it all in 3 weeks tho.

>> No.13602405

>>13602382
If by that you mean Mark is shorter, then indeed. But Luke is by far the best passion in terms of literary integrity.

>> No.13602413

The first ever female translation of course.

>> No.13602482 [DELETED] 

>>13601878
So I just read Romans 1. How do i stop being attracted to males? I'm still a virign so i hope soiled my chances entirely of entering into the kingdom of god

>> No.13602490

>>13602482
Umm, you probably heard some rhetoric from that idiot Stephen Anderson. You can repent of homosexuality, even the act of it.

>> No.13602562

>>13602413
Women have worked in various Bible translation committees already; that's just a sales pitch for that book.

>> No.13602592

>>13602562
You dont know what I'm referring to

>> No.13603261

Read the original Greek

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>>13601765
The one and only.

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I bought this one because it was cheap.

>> No.13603499

>>13602248
>Skipping John

>> No.13603518

>>13601765
For your first time the only correct answer is an easy one. NIV

>> No.13603890

is orthodox study bible the only one people read here for orthodox ?
is there more orthodox readings?

>> No.13603999

>>13601842
the catholic equivalent to 'nicer language' would be the douay rheims version

>> No.13604036

>>13603890
I'd recommend reading published homilies which usually revolve around the themes of the bible readings from the liturgy.
Lots of saints have had their homilies published and many priests study them for their own sermons.

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Anyone have any bible study charts? Notable authors and scholars who have studied the word? I want to try to understand it on my own and compare it to people of note.

>> No.13604052

>>13604036
any recs?
I've only read some Catholic and pr*testant stuff

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Am I only being read by Americans and the owner of the site?

#20190807 Papa Francisco faz apelo por Igreja "sem fronteiras" - Jornal do Brasil
http://tridejur.uy/t123.php?id=2306278&alta=2019-08-07%2012:42:07

>> No.13604071 [DELETED] 

Who is reading me, only Japan?. Based includes my country, Uruguay?

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>>13601765
I hope you know what you started, OP.

>> No.13604076 [DELETED] 

Who is reading me only Japan?. Is there a possiblity to be read at Uruguay, my country?

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>>13604071
>>13604076
I know Soros legalized weed in Uruguay and everybody is high 24/7, either because of active or passive smoking. I'm also pretty sure they put something in the water there to make your people dumber, but at least try to be a little less retarded when you post.

>> No.13604099

>>13603890
There have been several translations of the Greek Old Testament throughout the years.
https://orthodoxwiki.org/Septuagint#Different_Translations_of_the_Septuagint_in_English

There have also been various other translations with apocryphal/deuterocanonical books included such as the Douay-Rheims, KJV Revised Version, RSV, NRSV, ESV, and the World English Bible. Older translations like the KJV and Douay-Rheims have the least complete set of writings, and some may be translated from a Latin source as opposed to a possibly older and better Greek one.
From RV Wiki article
> The Revised Version became the first printed edition in English to offer the complete text of Second Esdras, inasmuch as damage to one 9th-century manuscript had caused 70 verses to be omitted from previous editions and printed versions, including the King James Version.

The OSB has some issues as well such as Septuagint readings or verses that are missing as well as the lack of some of the additional writings such as the above-mentioned 2 Esdras.
>Paste link to go to 31:44
https://youtu.be/7BzYh3WskL4?t=1904

>> No.13604111

>>13604052
Prologue from Ohrid / Lives of Saints is highly recommended. It's structured to be once per day with a saint's life story and a following relevant sermon.

St. Nikolaj Velimirovic's homilies are quite beautiful; he's a modern saint that died in 1956 and served around the world in Eastern Europe, Western Europe, and in finally in the US. He's very wise and intelligent, but spoke and wrote simply and beautifully to his audience; which I respect as I feel it emulates Christ's approach.

You don't have to get the books, you should be able to find many online as they are freely published.
http://www.rocor.org.au/?page_id=925

But that's just me. I'm sure other's have many other recommendations as well.

>> No.13604112

>>13604088
Seriously like Suarez misses every shot at the most inopportune moment; and that biting incident...
Clearly some repressed trauma or even lead exposure I've wondered.

>> No.13604131
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>>13604112
I have theory. I believe Uruguay is used as a "testing" country for fucked up shit; like to see how people react to abortion laws, or "recreational" drugs, or LGBTQ rights, but all contained in a small scale country. Then they process the data, and import the fucked up shit to other bigger countries in south america.

>> No.13604154

>>13604131
Then why are all Latin American countries more unstable and insecure? Uruguay was one of only five countries whose economy grew during the Great Recession.

It's more like idealist policies only work in countries with such stability, low social tension, and high literacy.

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>>13604154
>Then why are all Latin American countries more unstable and insecure?

Oh you poor angel, you have no clue. Even Montevideo stops being safe after you get to the more peripheral areas of the city.
Not gonna blame you though, you have the luck of haven't born in some of these third world shitholes, so you have no way to know.

>> No.13604189

>>13604181
I lived there for a year, even the glorious Chile is "uma Felicia" tier by comparison.

>> No.13604192

>>13604189
*delicia

>> No.13604204

>>13604189
Chile is more stable because of Pinochet's government, which itself was a mixed bag, but it's still better than the average south american dictator, and it's definitely better than the average left-wing politician. That stability it's not going to last long though, America is cracking over.

>> No.13604243

>>13604204
That's what wannabe Chilewns believe but not true. Chile has more current conflict with its indigenous population and intense student protests. Uruguay has been functioning seamlessly for a while now without any coups, impeachments, step downs, or convictions of former heads of state. This is to say nothing of having the lowest level of corruption and violent crime in the region.

>> No.13604269

>>13604243
What's the difference between Uruguay and Paraguay
I mean I know they are different I want to know some cultural economical corruptional difference

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>>13604243
> Chile has more current conflict with its indigenous population and intense student protests

Argentina has the exact same situation tho. In one side there's the problem with the mapuches, but their claims are limited to the area of patagonia (the movement itself is also financed by England, and God only knows who the hell finances them; follow that rabbit hole yourself if you want to); and on the other side you have a permissive government who is too greedy and lazy to do anything, and let's more and more extreme ideologies get in campuses. In Uruguay, some of those extremist are already in the government, so they don't have that problem either (remember that Mujica was a tupamaro).

So it's not only Chile, it's a general problem in the area.

>uruguay has been functioning seamlessly for a while
>having the lowest level of corruption and violent crime in the region

You literally have no idea of what you're talking about; violent crime and murder has spiked in Uruguay in the last years and it doesn't seem to be stopping anytime soon.
Violent murder, suicide, and abortions it's so bad in Uruguay that there is literally more people dying per year that people being born.

>> No.13604301

>>13604269
Its president was impeached in 2012, has a contraband haven on the Brazil Argentina tri-border area; mentioned in the movie Traffic.

>> No.13604338

>>13604294
>spiked in Uruguay in the last years
There are reports of around 300 homicides last year which is up from from the 230s when I lived there, around 240 a few years before that; and an all-time low of 198 several years ago. Incidentally the population has grown although at a slow pace, which is still better than overpopulation for a lesser affluent region. Some media outlets however unfairly compared homicide in the whole of the country to the city of Buenos Aires alone and other areas.

>> No.13604384

>>13604338
>Some media outlets however unfairly compared homicide in the whole of the country to the city of Buenos Aires alone and other areas.
Well, i kinda see your point, you cannot compare a city of three million inhabitants with a country whose mayor city has almost the same amount of people.
Still, taking this into consideration, it's to be expected that the number of murders in Uruguay is always going to be lower than in Argentina. So take only Uruguay's numbers, don't compare it with other countries, and you're going to notice that the percentage of violent murders is rapidly growing compared to previous years.

>Incidentally the population has grown although at a slow pace

Just that it's not.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=23620&ArticleId=2432840
http://www.ipsnews.net/1998/08/population-latin-america-uruguay-has-highest-suicide-rate/

>> No.13604431

>>13604384
>you cannot compare a city of three million inhabitants
Not just that but also that it ignores the much larger population of the metropolitan area of Buenos Aires which would likley account for a greater amount of its crime.

As for birth rate, a decrease of it does not constitute a population decline. That's still better than having out of control growth in developing countries.

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>>13604384
People over 70 are the group most affected by suicide. Brazil, Colombia, Mexico, Central America, and much of the Caribbean also have lower suicide rates...

>> No.13604514

As literature? KJV. Consult a modern translation when necessary.