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what are some good magical realist or surrealist novels?

>> No.1359694

Oh my god.

>> No.1359705

One Hundred Years of FUCKING POST MOAR

>> No.1359719

House of Leaves.

>> No.1359727

>realist or surrealist

So... Just good magical novels? No need to try and sound intellimalectural.

>> No.1359734

>>1359727
"magical realist" or "surrealist".
Comprehension failure.

>> No.1359738

>>1359734
I don't think OP meant them as synonymous, just as an either/or.

>> No.1359744

>>1359738
This guy >>1359727 apparently took it to mean "magical" and "[realist/surrealist]".

>> No.1359745

The Master and Margarita
Bulgakov

>> No.1359759

>>1359727

magic realist: disregard conventional exposition, plot advancement, linear time structure, logic and reason, etc., in an attempt to disregard natural assumptions in order to reach a state of heightened awareness about all life's connectedness or life's 'hidden meaning'

>> No.1359762

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Luis_Borges

>> No.1359763

>>1359744
my bad, its because I only looked at the last digit, and because OPs last digit is 7 aswell i thought it was to OP.

>> No.1359765

magic(al) realism: niggers with telepathy

>> No.1359769

>>1359765
Don't you ever just fuck off?

>> No.1359782

magical realism: telepathy with niggers

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>>1359769
so ForcedAnal maybe you missed what happened to kvivoriviev the last time a tripfaggot stepped up to me?

>> No.1359804

>>1359795
No, I saw. Can't say I was really impressed with you. In fact, you keep living up to my expecations in every thread.

You're shitting up /lit/, guy. Please stop.

>> No.1359809

go! go! go! go! go! go! go! go! go!

>> No.1359817

>>1359795
Don't get cocky, everybody says something stupid, we're all human. At least we try to contribute something of ourselves. You're all defense mechanism, a comedian who can't get off the stage even when the club's closed.

>> No.1359820

>>1359817
I have to say, that's a nice way of putting it.

>> No.1359821
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>>1359804

>>1359817
>Don't get cocky, everybody says something stupid, we're all human
I am the ubermensch

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>>1359687

Mount Analogue: A Novel of Symbolically Authentic Non-Euclidean Adventures in Mountain Climbing

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>>1359817
feel free to link to something stupid ive ever said on /lit/ from our glorious green oval.

>> No.1359849

>>1359823
Back on topic, I guess. Here's an interesting-looking book:

http://www.amazon.com/Live-Safely-Science-Fictional-Universe/dp/product-description/0307379205

I haven't read it yet, but it's arriving in a couple of days. Reviews sound promising.

>> No.1359867

>>1359821
That's right, another joke. Keep everybody at arm's length. Nothing will ever touch you, just keep up the kidding.

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>>1359867

>> No.1359896

>>1359867
you are pretty butthurt.

>> No.1359897

also, midnight's children is a good magic realist text

>> No.1359905

seriously, deep&edgy transcends u faggots through pure ownage. all you can do is "not give him the time of day" and tell yourselves you're "too good for him" when really you're afraid he'll inflict brutal ownage upon you. just accept defeat guys.

>> No.1359912

>>1359905
> implying you're not D&E

>> No.1359918

>>1359912

i'm not./

>> No.1359931

>>1359918
d&e likes me better than you

jelly?

>> No.1359933

>>1359918
Either you are, or you write in a similarly juvenile style. Either way, it doesn't really lend much support to Deep & Edgy.

>> No.1359937

>>1359931

no. i hate you both and would kill u irl.

>> No.1359947

Yay, let's shit up another thread with tripfag nonsense.

At least contribute with a book title per post, please.

Mine: The Tin Drum

>> No.1359951

>>1359937
:o

>> No.1359971

So guys did you know that Gunter Grass was like in the hitler youth or some shit? he kept that pretty well hidden eh lolol

oxherding tale or middle passage, can't remember how much magicy realy either is tho :/

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1359976

HEY GUYS, HOW ABOUT WE RECOMMEND SOME MAGICAL REALISM INSTEAD OF ARGUING ABOUT WHICH TRIPFAG IS WORST?

Here's just a couple of my favourites for you OP:
Angela Carter - "Nights at the Circus"
Angela Carter - "The Infernal Desire Machines of Dr. Hoffman" (This one is more surrealist than magical realist but you did say that's what you wanted)
Salman Rushdie - "Midnight's Children"
Marquez - "The Autumn of the Patriarch"
Luke Sutherland - "Venus as a Boy"
Borges - Just about anything he ever wrote.

Any of those will make for good reading, but Angela Carter and Borges are the big ones. If you're not familiar with these authors then you should fix that ASAP.

>> No.1359992

>>1359971
Yeah, I did--I think that became the subject of new controversy when Crabwalk came out....relevance?

I think of A Passage to India and Mrs. Dalloway as "magical realist", though I don't think they're generally considered to be. Anyone agree with me there? I think that impression of mine comes down to one or two key scenes in each work, but to me, that's enough--a dash of the magical or inexplicable, but not enough to make it the focus, and thus make the novel "fantasy".

>> No.1360003

>>1359976
>>1359976
this is a good list.
I might add Carter's The Bloody Chamber to this too.

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1360014

Its female parts appreciation thread now

>> No.1360032

>>1360014
at that resolution you can see the hairs on her legs. goddam any closer and i'd be fapping to mitochondria.

>> No.1360085

surrealism is a 1930s movement drawing on "dream logic" fashionable since Freud. Realism are those 19th century novels more about the society than about the individual. they are usually much more boring and less farcical than real life gets at times. NOW the fuck is 'magical realism'!?

also, have you seen this:
http://green-oval.net/cgi-board.pl/lit/reports/post-count
site?

>> No.1360093

>>1359976
>>1360003

The problem with Carter is that she's not very good.