/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13593265]

Any good books on how to escape wageslavery?

[Anonymous No.13593318]

lol no

[Anonymous No.13593343]

>>13593265
capital

[Anonymous No.13593352]

>>13593265
All the avenues that a wageslave could use to escape wageslavery have been blocked by capitalists so unless you have money to spend you cannot do it.

[Anonymous No.13593370]

>>13593318
>>13593343
>>13593352

[Anonymous No.13593382]

>>13593265
Be smart and have a great idea for a business or wageslave for a few years saving every penny you have living like a monk and then retire to a cheap country while living a comfortable simple life

[Anonymous No.13593396]

>>13593265
>how to escape wageslavery

kys

[Anonymous No.13593534]

>>13593265
System is designed to keep your working. If you spend any money on shitty self-help books you'll never escape.

[Anonymous No.13593544]

>>13593534
>spending money on books
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.13593554]

>>13593265

you escape wage slavery by living like an ascetic in a vehicle and saving up as much money as you can . Buy a shitty fixer up house in a rural area and live frugally on all the money you made. adopt the freegan lifestyle(get expired food from dumpsters) so you eke out a workless existence on the money you have.

don't be a rent cuck because that is what sucks up all your money. once you have enough money to live years on, stop driving. gas, insurance etc cost money

[Anonymous No.13593558]

>>13593554

so you can eke*

[Anonymous No.13593569]

all of the authors of these self-help books didn't get rich by by using their own advice. they got rich because they convinced a bunch of normies to buy their books
that's how dave ramsey got rich

[Anonymous No.13593581]

I teach English in East Asia. $22 USD/hour. 3 hours/day, 5 days/week. Could work more but nah fuck that. Spend about half what I earn on living expenses, half goes to savings. Once I find a woman to marry I'll go to the Middle East and earn a fortune and build up a homestead here. Worst part about my job is interacting with westerner coworkers.

[Anonymous No.13593590]

>>13593534

you escape by pirating them

[Anonymous No.13593600]

you escape by thinking like a capitalist when it comes to saving and working and thinking like an anti-consumerist, freegan and ascetic when it comes to spending

[Anonymous No.13593619]

>>13593600
capitalists invest, not save

[tridejur No.13593634]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGgMZpGYiy8

[Anonymous No.13593639]

>>13593619

i meant capitalist as in someone who believes in the ideology of capitalism, not the capitalist class.

there are a bunch of working class folks are capitalists

[Anonymous No.13593654]

Get a mortgage from the bank and invest in real estate

[Anonymous No.13593667]

>>13593654
This. Anyone who thinks it's hard to make money doesn't deserve to be rich in the first place.

https://youtu.be/1uWMbmwyj3g

[Anonymous No.13593671]

>>13593265
Here's a straightforward one.

[Anonymous No.13593682]

forgo self-help books and just read this

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/57342

it's one giant self-help book combined with biographies

[Anonymous No.13593691]

>>13593639
A savings account is a waste of money if your goal is to make money and escape wageslavery. Savings should only be used for emergency living costs. Anything beyond that should be invested in some way.

[Anonymous No.13593703]

>>13593691

you don't use a savings account. you just put it in your checking account and don't go under the limit(where they start charging you for keeping your money in it).

i don't use a savings account anymore because i found out my bank was charging me a feed to keep my money it

[Anonymous No.13593707]

>>13593703

fee to keep my money in it*

[Anonymous No.13593717]

>>13593703
I use a seperate checking for savings, had more interest than the savings and its an investment bank so ill try and invest sooner or later

[Anonymous No.13593718]

>>13593691

you live frugally. investing is too risky and a pain in the ass to manage if you have no knowledge. screw it, just save money and live frugally on the money you saved

[Anonymous No.13593726]

>>13593691
>>13593703
as interest rates are so low at the moment, there's not much difference between the two anyway. but, it is sensible to keep 2-3 months' living expenses in an account that is instantly accessible but separate from your day to day account.

[Anonymous No.13593727]

>>13593718
You can try shit like acorns, it wont make you rich but its basically free money

[Anonymous No.13593728]

>>13593590
>don't mind me, just torrenting this soup!

[Anonymous No.13593729]

Build your own house, grow your own food, the only way out of wageslavery is very hard work. But at least you won't be a slave.

[Anonymous No.13593738]

>>13593718
>investing is too risky and a pain in the ass to manage if you have no knowledge
the internet has democratised investing. anyone can gain enough knowledge to invest some money even if it is only in a basic FTSE100/S&P500 ETF or whatever.
pic related was one of the first guidebooks of the online investing era and is still the best. it changed my life.

[Anonymous No.13593745]

>>13593729

building your own house is a pain in the ass and requires a lot of know how.
in some instances it cost even more than buying a house that is already built
lower your standards and buy 20k or 30k house in a rural area. you will have it paid off in no time compared to a 100k house or a 200k house

[Anonymous No.13593761]

i thought about living in my car and surviving on money i make via blood donation

i would need to make enough to pay for car insurance and gas and food
those would be my three necessities

i would just use free wifi from macdonalds and hotels and use outlets around the city to charge my laptop

if you're a normie i don't think this could be done but if you're an autist like me i think it could be done

the car would have to be a reliable car. a toyota camry or corolla or something like that

[Anonymous No.13593817]

>>13593761
Dont forget the library where otber spendthrifts spend their days hanging out and trying to masturbate witbout getting caught.

Soup kitchens provide free dinner as well!

[Anonymous No.13594007]

>>13593726
Return on investment isn't directly related to interest rates.

[lalo - tridejur No.13594017]

You must decide your interest rate and then according to society parameters reach it

[Anonymous No.13594018]

>>13593265
The System is designed to be incredibly punitive to those that deviate from wage slavery.

[Anonymous No.13594033]

I wish there would be a renewed labor movement. More and more people are working for less and less. Labor has been utterly disenfranchised, workers fragmented into isolated units and set against each other in competition. Working people have virtually zero representation in government which has been parasitized by the capitalist class.

You can be on the right side or the wrong side of the system, the golden or the rusty side. Most people are on the rusty side but they have no political tools to do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.13594041]

>>13594007
of course not. but we are talking about cash in savings and current/checking accounts.

>>13594018
that depends how that deviation is carried out. i took an interest in personal investing and became financially independent because of it. i have since found that despite living an inconspicuous lifestyle, there are people and companies that are very happy to encourage the custom of even the moderately wealthy. for example, when my portfolio passed £1 million, suddenly i was of great interest to companies that sell luxury products. it is still true that wealth begets wealth.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13594043]

Any good books on technocracy? I’ve only watched some of their old videos from Arvid Peteron
Which OP should check out.

Also Towards a New Socialism, Cockshott
And Democracy at Work, Wolff

[Anonymous No.13594081]

>>13594041
But like I said, the System has built in mechanisms to punish you.
For example, you wish to coast to through life on capital investment. But this requires a boom and bust cycles. So when there's a bull market, you'll either lose a lot of capital value or have trouble finding venues to increase capital growth and sustain your wagie lifestyle.
Thus forcing you to rely on skilled labor to supplement your lifestile; which you no longer possess because you've been NEETing it up.

A real example of this was the 2007 Market Crash; lots of boomers who followed this philosophy for a NEET retirement, lost a lot of their wealth and had to "retrain" to find work again. Thus cancelling their NEET retirement.
The System is designed to extract maximum value from humanity: the House always wins.

The only way to beat this is to not play the game, to not give with the Market / System wants. Create sub-systems and alternative hierarchies which encourage people to play other games; while siphoning off resources from the primary hierarchy to get these alternatives started.

[Anonymous No.13594125]

Is crypto a meme /lit/? Does /biz/ want me to lose everything?

[Anonymous No.13594132]

>>13594041
But like I said, the System has built in mechanisms to punish you.
For example, you wish to coast to through life on capital investment. But this requires a boom and bust cycles. So when there's an inevitable bear market, you'll either lose a lot of capital value or have trouble finding venues to increase capital growth and sustain your NEET lifestyle.
Thus forcing you to rely on skilled labor to supplement your lifestile; which you no longer possess because you've been NEETing it up.

A real example of this was the 2007 Market Crash; lots of boomers who followed this philosophy for a NEET retirement, lost a lot of their wealth and had to "retrain" to find work again. Thus cancelling their NEET retirement.
The System is designed to extract maximum value from humanity: the House always wins.

The only way to beat this is to not play the game, to not give with the Market / System wants. Create sub-systems and alternative hierarchies which encourage people to play other games; while siphoning off resources from the primary hierarchy to get these alternatives started.

[Anonymous No.13594135]

>>13593265
Bumping for interest.
>>13594018
Yes this is true.
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK 12 HOURS EVERYDAY?!
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WANT A DAY OFF?!
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAVE PERSONAL INTERESTS OUTSIDE OF WORK?!
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE DON'T PAY YOU ENOUGH?!
>IN MY DAY PEOPLE WOULD KILL TO BE WHERE YOU ARE! YOU ARE SO UNGRATEFUL!
I can't wait to escape.

[Anonymous No.13594156]

Just deal drugs? Not much, enough for rent and food.

[Anonymous No.13594181]

>>13594156
But that's illegal

[Anonymous No.13594191]

>>13594181
So? It is one way to beat the system. I am definitely dealing drugs as a hobby. You get to walk, socialize a bit (You decide when to fuck off) and You can earn alright money.

[Anonymous No.13594199]

>>13594132
Can you describe the last part in real life terms?
What are current sub-systems and alternative hierarchies?

[Anonymous No.13594207]

>>13594043
It's okay if these are the only two books you've read, Butterfly, but recommending them in every thread related to money is obnoxious. How the hell will reading about socialism make me rich/financially independent? It won't.

[Anonymous No.13594273]

>>13594132
you don't seem to know much about what you are talking about anon. how old are you?

>But like I said, the System has built in mechanisms to punish you.
not really. nothing has "punished" me on the way on the way to financial independence. not even the government- most of my investments are in tax-free wrappers (e.g. ISAs, here in the UK) so i don't pay tax on any dividends i receive, for example.

>But this requires a boom and bust cycles. So when there's an inevitable bear market, you'll either lose a lot of capital value or have trouble finding venues to increase capital growth
diversity is your friend, anon.

>2007 Market Crash
the market didn't reach its low until late 2008.
but, time is also your friend

also stop talking in 4chan slang if you want people to take you seriously

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13594309]

>>13594207
They apply ITT, mr One-Book man
>How will this make me money
Making money isn’t escaping wage slavery, it’s perpetuating it, you complete bozo

[Anonymous No.13594330]

Serious answer: Live on the cheap, outside, but not like a degenerate dope fiend. Rent and "stuff" is why you wageslave - you don't need either as a NEET. You're a neet anyway, right?

Options:
Squatting (if you find the right people who know how to do it; avoid druggies)
Get a license if you don't have it, then:
Car (not as comfy)
RV (need prior investment)

Don't go for low tier hobo solutions like tents or cardboard, weather will ruin it. Buy a gym pass to stay in shape & place to shower.
If you go about it smart, you need only $200 a month or so. 90% of it spent on food. So basically neetbux/foodstamps is all you need.

[Anonymous No.13594332]

Start a company, work really hard for ten twenty years or until you can hire people to do basically everything for you.

[Anonymous No.13594341]

>>13593382
what are some lit cheap countries?

[Anonymous No.13594362]

>>13594309
>Making money isn’t escaping wage slavery, it’s perpetuating it, you complete bozo
funny. i "escaped wage slavery" (although i still work sometimes) by making money. when i die, the money will pass on to my descendants, who will also be able to "escape wage slavery" if they so desire.

[Anonymous No.13594363]

>>13593382
>>13594341
US already is cheap a 3rd world country, large swaths of it anyway. Why move to bumfuck nowhere? SEA/slav whores don't settle for poor retirees, they're not that stupid (they call you "shit farang"). Then there's the whole foreign language thing.

[Anonymous No.13594414]

>>13593265
http://www.international-communist-party.org/BasicTexts/English/22TeRome.htm

[Anonymous No.13594429]

Just become a civil servant and you can enjoy the benefits of being both a wageslave and a NEET. You can still earn money but since you have little work to do, can spend your entire time browsing the internet, reading, watching videos or doing whatever else you want.

[Anonymous No.13594442]

>>13593265
go to bunkerchan, discord tranny. that's where your kind are congregating now. If you can't make it in US you frankly deserve to starve to death. living here is easymode

[Anonymous No.13594460]

>>13594363
I'm not interested in females, and I imagine that many cities of eastern Europe are far more soulful and devoid of the mechanisms of American wage slavery than anywhere else in this shithole. I'm looking to live a comfy life for 5 years or so somewhere then die.

[Anonymous No.13594462]

>>13594362
>the money will pass on to my descendant
lol you think you can pass on a "legacy" to your children? 9/10 your inheritance will be squandered or divided between kids, and that's only if your rich enough from years of wageslaving to accumulate anything meaningful. 9/10 "wealth" is destroyed within 2-3 generations, except for the true ruling class families that perpetuate their wealth for centuries if not close to a millennium (norman aristocracy, florentine families). Unless you somehow become a baron overnight (you won't) you have no chance of preserving your offspring from wageslavery. And even then most niggerrich new rich lose their money within several generations

[Anonymous No.13594482]

>>13594309
>They apply ITT, mr One-Book man
What are you talking about? There are no socialist militias I can join around here, and I sure as hell am not going to start one. So unless I see you out on my street with your anarchist goons armed up and ready to take down capitalism, I don't want you LARPing about "applying" your socialist fantasies on my forums anymore.
>Making money isn’t escaping wage slavery, it’s perpetuating it, you complete bozo
Yes it is. Financial independence is the definition of escaping wageslavery. I don't care about "perpetuating it" for other people because I'm not powerful enough to tear down the system and emancipate them. Even if I could, I'm not sure it'd be preferable for me. Sure, there might be less working hours and more power in the workplace, but fundamentally we're still going to have to slave away to get paid. If not to the private owners, then to the society of workers.

[Anonymous No.13594518]

>>13594125
Crypto is the ultimate financial meme, it holds no inherent value other than what others will give it (this could be said about fiat but taxes give them a basis of value) and aside for a few coins there's no market for them aside from exchanging into other meme coins. I wouldn't recommend it but the goal of crypto is to buy into a shitcoin, convince others that your meme is actually worth something and then cash out before it's inevitable collapse.

Bitcoin could be a valid bet if you are willing to wait 5 years on your investment but the market is too volatile for reliable short term returns.

[Anonymous No.13594530]

>>13593738
Can someone else vouch for this book? I was about to buy it but it says published in 2002 and I'm not sure if it's going to be applicable today, especially with our current political predicament in Britain

[Anonymous No.13594548]

[Anonymous No.13594560]

>>13594460
In eastern europe, you'll be trading cost for safety. The more east you go, the more dangerous. We don't have niggers, but we have gypsies and well, we're slavs, the honorary nigger.

The language barrier is high for anglos in here - only expensive metro areas can accommodate english speakers at least somewhat. And you're no better off in Prague than smaller red state city in the US, cost-wise.

>many cities of eastern Europe are far more soulful and devoid of the mechanisms of American wage slavery than anywhere else in this shithole

It's true that slavs are far less obese, so more of a soul can fit in (less shallow kinda - just gloomy, closed and direct). But since you don't plan on making much friends in here, not sure if it really matters.

t. czechslav, but moonlighted in burgerlands on overstay tourist visa about a decade ago (NYC and AUS).

[Anonymous No.13594566]

>>13593265
I know the secret but won't tell you because I'm capitalist

[Anonymous No.13594582]

What are the best wageslaves jobs you can get away with reading and shit like that but pay ok?

[Anonymous No.13594588]

>>13594518
shut up boomer
nothing has inherent value
gold is just a most useless shiny metal

[Anonymous No.13594610]

>>13594582
Office building front door desk and such. Or parking lot booth. Warehouse guard. Usually very poorly paid so only senior women take it, but a NEET is fine too. In any case, the place must be sleepy, like 3 people going thru a day, max.

[Anonymous No.13595168]

>>13594462
you're a bitter little shit aren't you anon?
also a pretty poor reader. you missed this bit
>if they so desire
of course i will do my best to educate my descendants in the ways of wealth preservation. after that it's up to them. what do i care? i'll be dead.
even if they choose to waste it at least they will be able to get some good memories out of it.
that is assuming my kid(s)- i currently have one- grow up to be reasonably sensible. if they grow up to be shit, it's all going to the cats protection league.

[Anonymous No.13595278]

[Anonymous No.13595315]

>>13593729
this

but how do i build my own house?

[Anonymous No.13595369]

>>13594363
US property and cost of living is still expensive and for the same money you can live so much better overseas.
>SEA
So uncreative, there are so many places around the world depending on your tastes. Literally anywhere but the US, Canada, Australia, new Zealand, Japan, and western Europe. Even places like Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece are good as long as you avoid the most expensive places and don't need to look for work anymore
>>13594341
I like parts of Mexico, Chile, Uruguay, Argentina, and western Turkey. I don't like south asia. You can live a fun comfortable life in Istanbul for cheaper than struggling in a Midwestern shithole boring "city". Or buy land and live off grid if you don't want to move

[Anonymous No.13595541]

>>13594429
this is unironically the most helpful answer ITT. If you have the social standing and education - get in politics ASAP. my best friend works for the civil service and is literally just a highly paid, glorified NEET. he says so himself. im landing a cushy embassy job soon

[Anonymous No.13595838]

>>13595315
lurk /diy/

[Anonymous No.13595843]

>>13593265
i read this. it's thesis is.
>sell books about escaping wagecuckery

[Anonymous No.13595856]

>>13593265
Walden

[Anonymous No.13595892]

>>13594530
You don't become rich from trading but you can create meaningful wealth if you have a good income in the first place. Most investment techniques typically come down to committing a set amount per month (ie 10% of income) into an ISA and investing in funds with view to hold over a long term (5+ years). This should be started asap to benefit from compounding interest if one wants to retire early.

[Anonymous No.13595916]

>>13595843
Tim Ferris was successful before he wrote this book but it's contents are very outdated even if the general idea is good.

[Anonymous No.13596003]

>>13595541
You should want to separate yourself from society as much as possible. The idea disgusts me.

[Anonymous No.13596197]

>>13593619
how are you going to invest without saving first

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13596219]

>>13594362
>if they so desire
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHA HAHAHAHAHA

>>13594482
>freedom for rent is all the freedom you can get
Get off my board 8 channer

[Anonymous No.13596655]

>>13595278
this

[Anonymous No.13596666]

>>13595892
Well the thing is I'm 19 years old with 0 knowledge of trading. I don't even know what an ISA is.

[Anonymous No.13596670]

>>13596219
You're a literal zombie, Butterfly. You're such an ideologue it's funny.

[Anonymous No.13596675]

>>13594442
>deserve
Spooky

[Anonymous No.13596817]

>>13594135
yeah my boss could have said all those things. he thinks im lazy because i refuse to work more than the standard 40 hours. i asked him about a 4-day workweek and he thought it was the most ridiculous thing he'd ever heard of.

>>13594033
i would like to see that as well. i think 5-day workweeks are absurd in the age of automation.

>>13593265
as for escape its down to luck. be born rich. or have the right idea at the right time in the right place. etc. some of the most well off people i know have no clue how much luck was involved in their success. im aware this is bordering on cope

[Anonymous No.13597182]

>>13596666
ISA = individual savings account- a type of account in which you can put cash or shares etc and any returns or interest you get is tax free. it is a UK account, i don't know if there is an equivalent elsewhere. you can put up to £20,000 a year into it. everyone in the UK is allowed to have one. unless you are incredibly wealthy, it's a no brainer to have one.

>>13596219
idiot

>>13596817
it is within the grasp of every person, except maybe the severely disabled, to improve their situation

[Anonymous No.13597254]

>>13597182
>it is within the grasp of every person, except maybe the severely disabled, to improve their situation
of course. but in reality that means going from making minimum wage to an extra $5/hour

[Anonymous No.13597309]

>>13597254
what a strange idea of the world of work you have. do you really think real people stay on minimum wage forever?
also, $5/hour is about $200 per week or $10,000 a year for a full time job. most sensible people could use that to improve their quality of life.

[Anonymous No.13597431]

>>13597309
Practice reading comprehension before posting retard.

What he's saying is improvements of "situation" are usually minimal, e.g. from $10/h to $15/h, not that they don't happen at all.

[Anonymous No.13597439]

>>13593265
Try my method, good old suicide.

[Anonymous No.13597462]

>>13597431
$10 to $15 per hour is an increase of 50%. that is not "minimal". a salary increase from ~$20k to ~30k would be significant for most people.
practice maths before posting, retard.

[Anonymous No.13597486]

>>13593352
No, I have a normal work without a university degree and I save 1000 EUR/month and invest it into to stable stocks paying 4-6% dividends and reinvesting them. As long as our capitalist system doesn't totally collapse it'll only take a couple of decades to be completely free.

[Anonymous No.13597526]

>>13597462
Lol relative improvement does not equal absolute improvement you retard

[Anonymous No.13597532]

>>13593382
doesn't work. it's exceptionally hard to keep cost of living low anymore as wages simultaneously stagnate. also it's hard to keep steady employment.
>>13594033
good post wasted on this shithole of a board. wages are seriously depressed to the point it's ridiculous. things that used to give a middle class lifestyle are now barely above poverty but, by comparison, are still considered "good" because everyone else makes even fucking less.

i get paid about 2/3 what i should be. i'm so bitter it makes it hard to keep my head down and keep trying.

also. it was called the 9-5 and was considered 40 hours a week and included an hour lunch every day. now you take lunch on your own fucking time. the only way i get out after 8 hours is by skipping meals/breaks but that's its own kind of hell too.

i'm ganbarrimasing but it's hell every day. i consider suicide at hour 5-8.

[Anonymous No.13597590]

>>13594582
i'm a cubicleslave who listens to audiobooks and drinks tea all day. but i have to actually work the whole time, too.
>>13597486
i can save about 1000-1500 usd a month. however, there's little job security. in the past ive gone months between jobs which wiped my savings. that's how they fuck you. trying to get full year=round stable employment but jesus fuck they'll fire people at a whim for zero reason. never had issues with performance, still been laid off three times due to the company's situations (IE manager wanted to slash costs real fast to prep for a review, to make herself look good. my job had been listed on a jobsboard not long after i was axed.)

[Anonymous No.13597598]

>>13597526
you've never actually had a worthwhile job, have you retard?

[Anonymous No.13597642]

>>13597590
> there's little job security. in the past ive gone months between jobs which wiped my savings.
The system is rigged in favor of the already rich, inflation punishes poor people unfairly and safe investments become better the more money you have.

I did not try to argue against that the system is stacked against wage slaves but rather that it's not impossible to escape it.

[Anonymous No.13597756]

>>13597526
No way people this dumb would exist and somehow end up on /lit/.

[Anonymous No.13597810]

>>13597462
30k is still fuckall though

[Anonymous No.13597842]

>>13597642
I mean, you're correct. If you're born poorfag you fight an uphill battle. If you're born into wealth you never have to work a day in your life. But the acquisition of wealth from zero is almost impossible. Getting and keeping a job with gainful employment, annual raises, and no unexpected emergencies, downturns, or unemployment bouts is trying to win the lottery. If you're born with 1 mil in the bank you can have a damned comfy living off interest. How long would it take a poorfaggot born to poverty to save 1 mil by actually working for it?

There's the phrase tossed around that being poor is expensive... google for more but it's truth.

And then let's say, it takes 30k after tax to live decently. So 40k before tax. some guy earning 40k/year is putting 0 away. make 60k? 20k in the bank after a year. make 100k? 60k in the bank. The guy making 100k is effectively earning 3x as much as the 60k guy.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13597938]

>>13596670
This description doesn’t fit me
You’re probably just paying attention. That’s fine though.

[Anonymous No.13598039]

>>13595168
Im a-ok actually. Im warning you against finding salvation in the delusion of generational accumulation we are sold to slave for the system. Avoid children like the plague, philosophical issues aside from choosing to birth people into this society

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13598256]

>>13597938
*probably not paying attention
Oh the ironing