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13592721 No.13592721 [Reply] [Original]

How the hell does one translate Lolita to other languages?

>> No.13592737

Why do You insiste on an abandono that took place Years ago she got the. Bmw

>> No.13592762

>>13592721
I actually read Lolita in Russian before I read it in English. I was learning the language at the time and it was gifted to me by a girlfriend, and I absolutely adored it. Nabokov wrote the translation himself so it's about as accurate as can be.

When I read the English version I realized I had not encountered the real beauty of the book, because it lies in its prose above all, but it is still an incredible story in Russian. I cannot say whether random people translating it into other languages would have the same fidelity of meaning though.

I think that the reason the book is so loved when Nabokov's prose is often as good in other works is because what it talks about. The absolute infatuation HH has for Lolita, the undeniable harm involved in predating on a child, the child's own fledgling desire for the forbidden fruit she doesn't understand, the breaking apart of taboo that engaging in the subject entails, the understanding that he is lying about what actually happened because he can't face reality in many ways, the deep tragedy of the narrative, it is very potent, and the perfection of his language elevates it.

I don't know about other translations but Nabokov's own version in Russian fully gets it. It wasn't a different book, just a book somewhat lessened in beauty.

>> No.13592783

I hate the name it makes an excuse for my ex wife to exist

>> No.13593676

I recently checked a version of Lolita in French just for fun. The introduction said that Nabokov (being fluent in French) was very unsatisfied with the original translation of the book and he made a bunch of notes and corrections and that this translation actually used those to fix it, so I guess it was a pretty good translation since it was almost made by him.

>> No.13593740

>>13593676
The Swedish translation was so bad that Nobakov sued the publisher and they were forced to pull the book from the market and destroy all copies. Nobakov cared.

>> No.13593806

>>13592721
any work that uses puns and playful language in translation is the basis for the now decade old /lit/ meme of mocking reading in translation

>> No.13594201

>>13592762
Your gf gave you Lolita lmao?

>> No.13594218

i love that all men dream to have the same power over roasties as the power of roasties over men. YOU JUST KNOW that men want to have the easy life of sluts and make roasties compete for them, then just pick the slut of the week, like women do. YOU JUST KNOW that men want to be loved just for existing

>> No.13594226

>>13593740
How the hell did he know if he couldn't read Swedish

>> No.13594252

>>13594226
English speaking Swedes informed him just how much their translation sucked compared to English?

>> No.13594373

>>13592721
The vocabulary is pretty Latinate, so it translates well into Romance languages.

>> No.13594375

Obviously by using Google Translate. Don’t you know anything about how books are made?

>> No.13594381

Literally every time I decide to browse /lit/, some faggot is talking about Lolita. I swear some of you fuckers are just larping as literates to indulge in your loli fantasies.

>> No.13594399

I think of lithium

>> No.13594701

>>13594399
fuck off namefag

>> No.13594705

>>13592721
What's the deal with this book? Why you guys love it so much?

>> No.13594728

>>13594705
>why do you love one of the greatest novels of the 20th century

>> No.13594852

>>13592721

Lolita, I'm not joking

>> No.13594859

>How the hell does one translate Lolita to other languages?
Names can't be translated. Lolita is a Spanish nickname for the Spanish name Dolores.

>> No.13595977
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13595977

I want a daughterwife and I am going to do literally everything in my power to obtain one. You're all fools and refuse in my way to reaching my goal, I would murder every one of you.

>> No.13596402

>>13595977
i'll FUCK your daughterwife

>> No.13596412

>>13596402
I'm always with her so you can't do anything. I will murder your entire family.

>> No.13596437

>>13595977
At what age will you murder and replace her?

>> No.13596463

>>13596437
Keep your disgusting insinuations to yourself. I'll have children with her and marry them off properly.

>> No.13596481

>>13596463
So even when she'll be old and gross, like 22 years old, you'll still consider her a daughterwife?

>> No.13596498

>>13596481
No, she will be an ex-cunny then. She can call me daddy if she wants to but I won't force it.

>> No.13596703

ahhhhh fuck fuck FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK CUNNY FUCK CUNNY CUNNY FUCK FUCK CUNNY FUCK CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY FUCK

>> No.13596723

>>13596498
I forgot to say, I would still consider her a wife if she didn't call me daddy. If she did she can still be my daughterwife.

>> No.13596729

>>13592721
i dunno but the english P&V translation is pretty good. i think nabakov even approved of it

>> No.13596730

I'm reading the Brazilian translation right now. Really good, the prose is amazing. I will read in english someday, when i get better at the language.

>> No.13596733

>>13594375
DeepL is fairly capable at translating books. I'd say for untranslated works you could easily pop them in and be 90% of the way there.

>> No.13596758

>>13595977
BASED
Godspeed anon, dont let the moralfags get in your way