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What are some books that will make the reader (hopefully) into a more natalistic, life-affirming, ethically-minded and virtuous person, I.E the antithesis to the leddit atheist or incel?

>inb4 the Bible
I plan on reading it.

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>> No.13579317

The Wind up bird chronicle

>> No.13579475

>>13579093
>spiritual texts
Imitation of Christ
Memoirs of a Russian Pilgrim
The Philocalia
>narrative
Sarum (Rutherfurd) explores the idea of Posterity. Recomended.
>essays
You would probably benefit from reading David Warren's blog.
http://www.davidwarrenonline.com
Have fun with these.

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>>13579093
I'd recommend the following:

-- Tao Te Ching
-- Simone Weil (any book of hers anon)
-- Plato (any of his books, but especially Socrate's defence)
-- Boethius' "Consolation of Phiosophy"

These ought to do the job, since al of them work on a personal level. Good luck anon.

>> No.13579514

In my opinion, books won't really change your mindset. Action and contemplation will. Prayer, Meditation, Contemplation and spending more time outside/active in general will all benefit you more than any book in my experience.

But to answer your question, I think the Brothers Karamazov was a good life-affirming book. It isn't idealism but rather a realistic life of realistic people who try and sometimes fail to do to the right thing. Dostoevsky is good in this regard since he portrays people realistically but still in such a way that makes you believe in the redemptive future of mankind.
Traditional literature like folktales and Grail Sagas will be good as well since they doesn't suffer from the over sentimental quality of romantic literature and tend to show themes of self discipline and virtue.

>>13579475
This is good advice. Although I thought the book was called The Way of a Pilgrim. If that's what you are referring to, that is one of my favorite books of all time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_of_a_Pilgrim

>> No.13579525

>>13579514
>This is good advice. Although I thought the book was called The Way of a Pilgrim.
I'm sorry I don't know the english translation's title; i sorta re-translated it from my language.
>I don't think book change your perspective
Each step is a step.

>> No.13579541

>>13579505
Based Simone Weil

>> No.13579558

fun with a pencil

>> No.13579571

>>13579541
>>13579505
I think Simone Weil is incredibly overrated. She is just another typical sentimentalist crypto liberation theologian. I've read her a fair amount and while she undoubtedly lived an interesting life, her metaphysics are pretty disappointing. You'd do better reading Platinus or Shankara if you want pure metaphysics and St. John of the Cross if you want her style of Christian metaphysics (since she took half her ideas from him anyways). In what is not borrowed from St John of the Cross, she shows a genuine misunderstanding of the purpose of religion (hence her constant reference to the Church as if it is some big social organization and constantly referencing suffering and emotion over any true elements of metaphysical liberation).

>> No.13579602

>>13579571
>St John
Also St Therese of Avila's the internal castle

>> No.13579618

>>13579602
Yeah the entirety of Carmelite Spirituality is very reminiscinet of her work. St. Terese of Liseux, another Carmelite woman, is another very sentimental person who wrote with similar themes of isolation and sadness that Simone Weil did. Except, St. Therese did not look at these emotions and sentiments as an end in of themselves like Weil did (not to mention Weil's constant desire to reduce everything in metaphysics down to the simple, humanistic and emotive quality)

>> No.13579622

read fanged noumena

>> No.13579639

>>13579093
Trout Fishing in America

it's a gentle and life-affirming book. go on a road trip, and read it at the rest stops.

>> No.13579656

>>13579093
your aunt's favorite motivational quotes

>> No.13579853

>>13579093
The Epic of Gilgamesh or Watership Down

>> No.13579860

>>13579093
The Bible is anti-natalist

>> No.13580035

>>13579093
The Perennial Philosophy

>> No.13580317

>>13579571
I understand your point, but I do think that it depends on how one reads her. To me, she is psychologically, linguistically and politically more interesting than, what one might call serious theologians, like St. Augustine or St. Thomas. Yes, she is more washed down and fragmented for certain kinds of metaphysics, but I read her in the way I read people like Lao Tzu or Heraclitus, and the rest of hers that focuses on the personal and cultural, I read her as I read Kierkegaard. Also, I do think that she's a very good writer and scholar and has a grasp of all kinds of different topics where she adds her own personal twist. I think it's kinda strange to say that she's incredibly overrated, since, who really reads her these days? Weird Catholic philosophy enthusiasts and a couple of French people? Though, again, there is truth to your point anon. Have a nice day.

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>>13579093
Just in case you haven't seen it.

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Francis Schaeffer

>> No.13581676

>>13579475
>The imitation of Christ

While it is a very good book, you must already buy into a lot of Christian premises in order to appreciate it. A reddit style atheist will dismiss it as an assertion of control of the masses because it constantly browbeats you into being humble (as you should).

>> No.13581685

The Qur'an.

>> No.13581694

>>13579093
martin buber, simone weil

>> No.13581802

>>13579093
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