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[Anonymous No.13578186]

What is the most effective way to spread acceptance of anti-natalism? I imagine there would be many anti-natalism, possibly even a majority, if not for the media perpetuating the idea that being anti-life is taboo.

[Anonymous No.13578253]

>anti-life is taboo
what about all these pro-abortion folks? id say theyre pretty anti-life

[Anonymous No.13578316]

>>13578253
>abortion=murder
I'm not even pro-abortion

[Anonymous No.13578326]

>if not for the media perpetuating the idea that being anti-life is taboo
PFFAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

[Anonymous No.13578336]

>>13578186
The medias, the élite, everyone of importance is on your side.

[Anonymous No.13578346]

>>13578336
> ‘To blame population growth instead of consumerism [for environmental degradation] ... is an attempt to legitimize the present model of distribution, where a minority believes it has the right to consume in a way which can never be universalized.
Pope Francis- Laudato Si

[Anonymous No.13578372]

>>13578186
I find Mani's philosophy to be the best way to promote antinatalism unlike Ligottian nihilism. There is something intrinsically special about life, and for this reason, suffering is never good. Thus, the fact that such an innocent being like a chickadee or human child have been tortured or harmed in this world, is a sufficient argument against natalism. Also, this is a good way to justify Benatar's Asymmetry Argument.
There is something akin to a divine light inherent in all beings, but this darkly plane of existence functions to violate such light. I do believe there are higher planes of reality, but we are genuinely closer to hell. This present existence is like endless hell but with some specks of light. When a chickadee sings, that is a fraction of heaven; when a chicken dies in pain, that is a lot of hell. To any honest mind, we are, indeed, closer to hell.
In Cologne Mani Codex, Mani had a mental breakdown after hearing the trees scream as their fruits are being plucked. He also advocated antinatalism unlike Buddha.
To Mani, the light inherent in all beings is frail and easily violated or corrupted by external influences. Laugh all you want, but I have certain "leaks" that the upper echelon of the West also engage in occult rituals that involve trying to subvert "the innocent light"; that is, they believe in a kind of nondualism where light can become darkness, darkness can become light. Where they can make suffering and torture into a kind of act of Goodness, like a picture book of dismembering others. Yes, the Godhead of Berserk exist, and they are closer than you think.
I, myself, am a prophet, like Mani, but my message is not all happy go lucky. Yes, life is meaningful, but this world itself is full of demons and processes that were set in motion by some kind of Demiurge-like being (e.g., animals eating one another). Empedocles was better than Heraclitus.

[Anonymous No.13578398]

>>13578186
>>13578372
I can't imagine that you guys are not virgins.

[Anonymous No.13578405]

>>13578398
Sex isn't all it's cut out to be, and when one engages in its machinations, there is a kind of "earthly macabre feeling to it", which older Anglo weird fiction writers like Arthur Machen dealt with. You are a demon, plain and simple, and you cannot feel any true light in this world and prefer to get lost in decadent memes. I cannot save you.

[Anonymous No.13578408]

>>13578398
What's wrong with that exactly? Jesus and Paul were as well

[Anonymous No.13578463]

>>13578408
Nothing. Virginity is praiseworthy. That’s not what opponents of anti-natalism are arguing against.

[Anonymous No.13578674]

>>13578463
What if I have tried and failed to get laid?

[Anonymous No.13578684]

>>13578463
Well one of them just did it.

[Anonymous No.13578848]

>>13578186
anti-natalism is just the moral superiority wing of atheists who felt like morallets compared to Christians. It's a perversion only the weak and weak-minded truly support. Just look at the Church of Euthanasia- founded by a vegan, transsexual Jew

[Anonymous No.13578853]

>>13578346
He' saying nothing on the one argument antinatalists have; the one that goes from "life is suffering so You shouldn't make Babies". He's also truvially right. 20 billion farmers have a Lesser impact on the environment than 1 billion industrialists, That's cold hard fact.

[Anonymous No.13578910]

>>13578186
i think killing yourself would be a good way of advocating for your idea, since it would proof ypur commitment to it and impress others as "why did this dude killed himself because of this ? there something interesting in this, I'll check it out"
The media would be obligated to show it and no one would judge you, i mean no one judges recently dead, it's almost like they've become saints. See 13 reasons why ? people are apologetic towards suicide theses days.
Do it! :D

[Anonymous No.13578922]

>>13578848
I'm not an atheist. I spread antinatalism BECAUSE I know God and Hell are real. I wear a shirt saying "[Birth is the beginning of damnation] [please consider the unborn]". I compare Christian reproduction to giving birth in a burning building.

[Anonymous No.13578928]

>>13578910
edgy

[Anonymous No.13578941]

>>13578910
Some megachad already did that and even though he was a Chad, hardly anybody read his manifesto because nobody likes pessimism. That's why they didn't and still don't like Jesus. "You mean I can't just spend my life doing whatever I feel like and get off scott free? Nah, I'll worship Luther and Anderson instead".

[Anonymous No.13578983]

>>13578922
>I wear a shirt saying "[Birth is the beginning of damnation] [please consider the unborn]". I compare Christian reproduction to giving birth in a burning building.

Grow the fuck up

[Anonymous No.13578995]

>>13578983
I assure you that I am much more grown than you are. Do you think I enjoy wearing such a thing? No, its embarrassing and I mostly get dirty looks and some people are stupid enough to think its about abortion. Nevertheless I wear it to advertise a message of the utmost importance because I have a sense of duty to my fellows. You are the one who needs to grow up.

[Anonymous No.13579000]

>>13578922
You're basically a Cathar.

[Anonymous No.13579002]

>>13578186
>antinatalism

[Anonymous No.13579035]

>>13578941
I disagree man, people love some pessimism. It's been this way since WWII. People just don't care for the future or are scared of it, it's very clear why they just act so irresponsibly towards one another. Trying to survive day by day, marking time, enjoying most of they can. They truly believe, they WANT to believe in one end or another, communist takeover, global warming, zombie apocalypse, mad max, they don't as long as it ends. Life in the end would be just less annoying and meaningless.
They just waiting for someone to showcase them the answer, a solution >>13578186
Show them the way anon, start the new revolution.
#doit :D

[Anonymous No.13579042]

>>13579000
>>13578922
Cathars worshiped the memory of Manes (Mani) btw.

[Anonymous No.13579045]

>>13579035
I'm hardly going to kill myself. I am >>13578922

I assure you I'm in no hurry to get to hell and if I can persuade just a few people to not have children then my purpose will be fulfilled.

[Anonymous No.13579139]

>>13578316
nice strawman

[Anonymous No.13579158]

>>13579042
Cathars are also a footnote in history because they felt They were so virtuous they could kill papal legates without repercursion.

[Anonymous No.13579234]

>>13579035
Ted knew why.