/lit/ - Literature

[Homer No.13574168]

What the fuck, this is the greatest written novel of all time. Nabokov was right on his "On a book titled Lolita", literary works aren't meant to be informative or increase your knowledge but simply be aesthetic perfections that will conjure something in your mind that nothing else can do, and Lolita does the greatest job in it.

[Anonymous No.13574302]

>>13574168
It's beautiful but it's not the greatest. Post passages you like.

Had I been a painter, had the
management of The Enchanted Hunters lost its mind one
su mm er day and commissioned me to redecorate their dining
room with murals of my own making, this is what I might have
thought up, let me list some fragments:

There would have been a lake. There would have been an
arbor in flame-flower. There would have been nature studies —
a tiger pursuing a bird of paradise, a choking snake sheathing
whole the flayed trunk of a shoat. There would have been a
sultan, his face expressing great agony (belied, as it were, by
his molding caress), helping a callypygean slave child to climb
a column of onyx. There would have been those luminous
globules of gonadal glow that travel up the opalescent sides of
juke boxes. There would have been lands of camp activities
on the part of the intermediate group. Canoeing, Coranting,
Combing Curls in the lakeside sun. There would have been
poplars, apples, a suburban Sunday. There would have been a
fire opal dissolving within a ripple-ringed pool, a last throb, a
last dab of color, stinging red, smarting pink, a sigh, a wincing
child.


I am trying to describe these things not to relive them in
my present boundless misery, but to sort out the portion of
hell and the portion of heaven in that strange, awful, madden-
ing world — nymphet love. The beastly and beautiful merged at
one point, and it is that borderline I would like to fix, and I
feel I fail to do so utterly. Why?

The stipulation of the Roman law, according to which a girl
may marry at twelve, was adopted by the Church, and is still
preserved, rather tacitly, in some of the United States. And
fifteen is lawful everywhere. There is nothing wrong, say both
hemispheres, when a brute of forty, blessed by the local priest
and bloated with drink, sheds his sweat-drenched finery and
thrusts himself up to the hilt into his youthful bride. “In such
stimulating temperate climates [says an old magazine in this
prison library] as St Louis, Chicago and Cincinnati, girls
mature about the end of their twelfth year.” Dolores Haze was
bom less than three hundred miles from stimulating Cin-
cinnati. I have but followed nature. I am nature's faithful
hound. Why then this horror that I cannot shake off? Did I
deprive her of her flower? Sensitive gentlewomen of the jury,
I was not even her first lover.

[Anonymous No.13574323]

>>13574302
>stinging red, smarting pink, a sigh, a wincing child.
Could this piece of writing be considered child porn in some countries? Please let me know.

[Anonymous No.13574353]

I looked and looked at her, and I knew, as clearly as I know
that I will die, that I loved her more than anything I had ever
seen or imagined on earth. She was only the dead-leaf echo
of the nymphet from long ago - but I loved her, this Lolita, pale
and polluted and big with another man's child. She could fade
and wither - I didn't care. I would still go mad with tenderness
at the mere sight of her face.

[Anonymous No.13574368]

>>13574323
I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.13574388]

‘Ton mean,” she said opening her eyes and raising herself
slightly, the snake that may strike, “you mean you will give us
[us] that money only if I go with you to a motel. Is that what
you mean?”

“No,” I said, “you got it all wrong. I want you to leave
your incidental Dick, and this awful hole, and come to live
with me, and die with me, and everything with me” (words
to that effect) .

“You're crazy,” she said, her features working.

“Think it over, Lolita. There are no strings attached. Ex-
cept, perhaps — well, no matter.” (A reprieve, I wanted to
say hut did not.) “Anyway, if you refuse you will still get
your . . . trousseau .”

“No kidding?” asked Dolly.

I handed her an envelope with four hundred dollars in cash
and a check for three thousand six hundred more.

Gingerly, uncertainly, she received mon petit cadeau; and
then her forehead became a beautiful pink. “You mean,” she
said, with agonized emphasis, “you are giving us four thousand
bucks?" I covered my face with my hand and broke into the
hottest tears I had ever shed. I felt them winding through my
fingers and down my chin, and burning me, and my nose got
clogged, and I could not stop, and then she touched my wrist.

“I’ll die if you touch me,” I said. “You are sure you are not
coming with me? Is there no hope of your coming? Tell me
only this.”

“No,” she said. “No, honey, no.”

[Anonymous No.13574400]

>>13574168
Post the passage where Dolores approaches Humbert while eating an apple.

[Anonymous No.13574428]

I like that Nabokov made it possible for us to have cunny threads on /lit/.

By the way there's something wrong with this image, can you point out what it is?

[Anonymous No.13574455]

It's heart-wrenching for me to re-read these.

One drop of rare honey, however, that Thursday did hold in its acorn
cup. Haze was to drive her to the camp in the early morning. Upon sundry
sounds of departure reaching me, I rolled out of bed and leaned out of the
window. Under the poplars, the car was already athrob. On the sidewalk,
Louise stood shading her eyes with her hand, as if the little traveler were
already riding into the low morning sun. The gesture proved to be premature.
"Hurry up!" shouted Haze. My Lolita, who was half in and about to slam the
car door, wind down the glass, wave to Louise and the poplars (whom and
which she was never to see again), interrupted the motion of fate: she
looked up--and dashed back into the house (Haze furiously calling after
her). A moment later I heard my sweetheart running up the stairs. My heart
expanded with such force that it almost blotted me out. I hitched up the
pants of my pajamas, flung the door open: and simultaneously Lolita arrived,
in her Sunday frock, stamping, panting, and then she was in my arms, her
innocent mouth melting under the ferocious pressure of dark male jaws, my
palpitating darling! The next instant I heart her--alive, unraped--clatter
downstairs. The motion of fate was resumed. The blond leg was pulled in, the
car door was slammed--was re-slammed--and driver Haze at the violent wheel,
rubber-red lips writhing in angry, inaudible speech, swung my darling away,
while unnoticed by them or Louise, old Miss Opposite, an invalid, feebly but
rhythmically waved from her vined verandah.

[Anonymous No.13576479]

All i can remember about this book is when his vice talks about fishing condoms out of a river to wear for a threesome

[Anonymous No.13577864]

Fuck. God please give me cunny. Let me adopt a qt and read literature with her and marry her. I won't hurt her I'll love her even when she grows up. I just want a cute and funny daughterwife.

[Anonymous No.13577881]

>>13574168
>live with parents
>want to read lolita
>cover looks like this
wat do?

[Anonymous No.13577891]

>>13577881
Tell them to stop believing in modern society's spooks and make you bethrothed to some cute & funny girl.

[Anonymous No.13577923]

>>13574168
Recently finished it and the book is incredible. Definitely one of my favorites. There's such a playful, intelligent, cleverness, both narratively and meta-narratively.

I remember this one small passage during the latter half of part 2. HH is talking about a past girl friend of Dolores' who is named Avis. I, the reader, thinks it's a weird name. Then later in the page, HH brings up and references her dad, who is apparently called 'Mr. Byrd'. Couldn't help but give a mighty smirk. Organically discovering clever bits like this really makes it feel like you reading something special.

[Anonymous No.13577991]

>>13577864
I fantasize about teaching her how to dance in the guest room when she's about 11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJYmlfUQqtk

[Anonymous No.13578003]

>>13577991
This is how you dance with someone you love, darling.

[Anonymous No.13578020]

>>13578003
It's nice, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NExHHfomRo

[Anonymous No.13578033]

What's the best english version of this to read?

[Anonymous No.13578041]

>>13578020
I love you too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-PDnqrecB0

[Anonymous No.13578093]

>>13578033
it was originally written in English

[Anonymous No.13578100]

>>13574168
Is it just me or does someone else not a give a shit about the book? I wouldn't actually say that, but I literally felt nothing reading this book, and same with all other fiction books basically. I've read 1984, BNW, Lolita etc fiction books, but I only ever get satisfaction when I finally finish the book. I might be a pseud that reads just to read, but strangely I never actually feel great satisfaction from reading fiction and can't make any own opinions on how good the book is, simply because I didn't really give a shit. This is pretty weird, but I don't even think reading fiction is boring I just don't find them interesting aswell, which is really strange dunno

[Anonymous No.13578103]

>>13578100
you're just an NPC. stick with non-fiction.

[Anonymous No.13578113]

>>13574302
That is pretty amazing Tbh.

[Anonymous No.13578142]

>>13578103
Fiction is for faggot betas who go study liberal arts or literature, then get a shitty job at some high-school and think they're better then anybody else intellectually, even though they have a terrible job and terrible life(you). Only chads read non-fiction because objectively speaking it's the only genre that's actually worth something and offers knowledge, which is actually applicable in real life. So go cry in your mothers basement more you fucking cuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNTjNkD7ifU

[Anonymous No.13578166]

>>13577881
get this one instead

[Anonymous No.13578193]

To people who have read it, how do you recommend dealing with the large amounts of French?

[Anonymous No.13578210]

We live in a world where most men are in cunnyless failing marriages. Girls should marry at the age of 12 to their bethrothed.

[Anonymous No.13578312]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7N2wssse14

[Anonymous No.13578374]

>>13578142
all those words just to say "Im upset Im not creative"

[Anonymous No.13578384]

>>13578142
>he reads for knowledge
turbo-pleb

[Anonymous No.13578395]

>>13578193
> large amounts
lol fucking monolingual burgers

[Anonymous No.13578402]

>>13578142
Nonfiction is for facts, fiction is for truth

[Anonymous No.13578427]

>>13574388
You left out the best part: "She never called me honey before"

[Anon No.13578445]

>>13577923
What's the connection anon?

[Anonymous No.13578487]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkL7Fkigfn8

[Anonymous No.13578533]

>>13578395
You're probably right. I imagine I can just get by with Google Translate. It's not something like The Magic Mountain with entire conversations in French.

[Anonymous No.13578573]

>>13574428
>>13576479
>cunny
Anyone who uses this word in a sincere manner should be publicly executed by a pack of dogs. You people are subhuman filth who don't deserve to live, and my singular release from my knowledge of your existence is that you will live empty, cursed lives of constant suffering.

[Anonymous No.13578597]

>>13578573
uncross your eyes man. I didn't say shit
But i do agree with you

[Anonymous No.13578601]

>>13578573
Only lolis can truly love. Cunny is the way to go.

[Verse 1]
You're so hot, teasing me
So you're blue, but I can't take a chance on a chick like you
That's something I couldn't do
There's that look in your eyes
I can read in your face that your feelings are driving you wild
Ah, but girl, you're only a child

[Chorus]
Well I can dance with you, honey
If you think it's funny
Does your mother know that you're out?
And I can chat with you, baby
Flirt a little, maybe
Does your mother know that you're out?

[Post-Chorus]
Take it easy, take it easy
Better slow down, girl
That's no way to go
Does your mother know?
Take it easy, take it easy
Try to cool it, girl
Take it nice and slow
Does your mother know?

[Verse 2]
I can see what you want
But you seem pretty young to be searching for that kind of fun
So maybe I'm not the one
Now you're so cute, I like your style
And I know what you mean when you give me a flash of that smile
Smile, but girl, you're only a child

[Anonymous No.13578616]

>>13578142
who is this heavenly creature.

[Anonymous No.13578865]

>>13578445
'avis' is the Latin word for bird and, judging by her dad's name, the girl friend's last name is 'byrd'. just a cheeky bit of wordplay

[Anonymous No.13578895]

>>13574302
>those luminous globules of gonadal glow that travel up the opalescent sides of juke boxes
This fucking line, man. Why is it so funny.

[Anonymous No.13579426]

>>13578142
Who is she, from which K-pop group? Asking for my friend.

[Anonymous No.13579483]

>>13579426
>>13578616
Tzuyu

[Anonymous No.13579490]

>>13578601
I find little girls really cute anon, and maybe wish I could even be with one since they are the most Pure and because I still feel like a child inside - but even this picture, despite it's lack of reveal, made me uncomfortable. Little girls are not to be placed into a context of sexuality. Appreciate them romantically perhaps, but to ascribe eroticism to a non-erotic creature is a mental error. I don't hate pedophiles though, I want them cured of their ailment - but I don't tolerate their behavior nonetheless, I rebuke them for it. But the concept of loving a prepubescent girl is something I've wondered over myself, namely whether it's possible for genuine Love to exist between an adult and a child, and what it would entail. Many get up in arms at the very thought of being able to love a child, considering it pedophilia all the same, but I'm merely asking whether it's possible to feel genuine love for that part of the child's soul which remains there in their adult version, and if so, why should there be something wrong about that? Applying any aspect of sexuality to them is certainly wrong, but I feel that feeling Love for them is not. It's an interesting area, to me. I feel similarly regarding animals - is it possible to genuinely love an animal creature, in the romantic sense? I'd say so, and would also say that sexuality being involved is once again a corruption of something itself not corrupt. But of course, others will disagree with that claim too.

[Anonymous No.13579501]

>>13579490
Slave mentality spooks. There's nothing wrong with loving a little girl, even sexually. It's the society's hysteria that causes any possible trauma.

[Anonymous No.13579649]

>>13579501
Holy Hell, that was a horrific read. I am not of the mental constitution to be reading into such areas, but I will just mention that I don't think little girls have the mental constitution for such activities either, regardless of physiological considerations, and the mental fact precedea and prohibits anything physical, no matter what. Oh my goodness, I wish I hadn't read that (especially the "coroner" part). I'm leaving this horrible place. I won't be viewing this thread again, and won't see any replies you leave here. Please, please, please see a therapist and don't simply let a community of like-minded individuals convince you that your predilection is entirely normal and unjustly condemned by the cultural norms you live under.

[Anonymous No.13579651]

>>13579649
Holy crap lmao. Get a hold of yourself pussy. There's nothing inherently wrong or sinful about sex.

[Homer No.13580031]

>>13578100
It's probably due to games and movies fucking up your imagination. When you read fiction you're actually supposed to imagine somewhat vividly what is being described. It's not like a game that everything is presented to you. Itsote like having memories of a life you've never had. On the other hand if you're reading just for the sake of finishing books and acquiring knowledge stick to non-fiction.

Also, leaving the house and living life will improve the imagination.

[Anonymous No.13580280]

>>13580031
not him but i am really incapable of parsing out meaning from stories
I read Christmas Tree by Fyodor and all i get is horny
I have also read Crime and Punishment, but the only takeaway I had was that "Wow, this is literally me, i didnt know robots existed 100 years ago"
maybe its autism, but i just cant get people writing and extracting large amount of virtues from any of these books.

[Anonymous No.13580302]

>>13579649
>that style of writing
anone why are you so pure, i suppose there is still hope in humanity
i wish you well in these dark eras, anone.
now leave! Leave before this thread corrupt your poor innocent soul.

[Anonymous No.13580324]

where do you buy this book anyways?
>inb4 bookstore
....nope
>inb4 amazon
i dont want this shit in my orders history
>inb4 online pdfs
i would rather have a physical copy, i stare at computers all day already

[Homer No.13580940]

>>13580324
What are you talking about? just go to the store and buy it lmao. Nobody cares.

>tfw walking around college campus with the book in my hand showing the cover proudly

[Anonymous No.13580956]

>>13574168
After reading Tolstoy and Melville it feels like YA to me.

[Anonymous No.13580957]

>>13580940
i am not in the land of the burgers anon

[Anonymous No.13580960]

>>13578142
The irony of being anti-fiction and posting K-pop surely hasn't slipped by you, right?

[Anonymous No.13580965]

>>13574168
>greatest written novel
>unironically opens with a tittle drop

[Anonymous No.13580978]

>>13574388
somehow totally forgot this part. This novel really is very good, idk why I constantly feel compelled to criticize it.

[Anonymous No.13581439]

>>13580957
Guy you don't have to be hear to use the internet. Just get an audiobook app and buyit for like $5. It's been off copyright for decades.

[Anonymous No.13582160]

>>13581439
>get an audiobook app and buyit

[Anonymous No.13582282]

>>13578100
no joke, I honestly thought at first that this webm was of one of those chinese robots that they put in technology exhibitions

[Anonymous No.13582297]

>>13580324
it's a modern classic and is in many (probably most) literature faculties' curriculums. also whoever sells it to you doesn't really care.

>>13582160
the audiobook version narrated by Jeremy Irons is unironically amazing

https://youtu.be/inxiWyRZBdI

[Anonymous No.13582653]

>>13580965
names aren't title drops

[Anonymous No.13582758]

quality of this book drops like a brick on the second half

[Kierkegaard No.13583629]

>>13580957
>i am not in the land of the burgers anon
me neither.