/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13553426]

>Having children

[Anonymous No.13553428]

>>13553426
>/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13553434]

>>13553428
Antinatalism is /lit/ suck my cock since you're such a whiny whore

[Anonymous No.13553453]

>>13553426
Anti-natalism is fox and grapes tier cope.

[Anonymous No.13553460]

>>13553453
There are no good reasons to have a child. And no:

>Muh lineage
>Muh white race
>Muh legacy
are not good reasons. They're dumb, selfish, retard reasons.

[Anonymous No.13553461]

>having your own children

[Anonymous No.13553464]

>>13553453
This. Everyone who preaches it is someone who seldom gets laid

[Anonymous No.13553468]

>>13553453
This.
Moreover its a self-fixing problem. The ideology dies in a generation. Any ideaology that doesnt advocate fertility above replacement will die out.

[Anonymous No.13553485]

>>13553426
i'm an incel with a 130K car but my life feels meaningless and empty because a waifu and two kids is what i'm really longing for. i'd trade with joe blow that has a 3k civic and a family in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous No.13553486]

>>13553468
>The ideology dies in a generation.
Yes, because people only believe what their fathers do. Right moron?

[Anonymous No.13553493]

>>13553485
>my life feels meaningless and empty because a waifu and two kids is what i'm really longing for
When you get them you'll wish you were dead.

[Anonymous No.13553500]

>>13553493
says foreveralone

[Anonymous No.13553506]

>>13553500
By choice, I could've had a wife and kids by now but I'm not making the mistake everyone else does. Look around you at people with children, they hate it. A happy day at the park doesn't counter the other 99% of the time they're cunts.

[Anonymous No.13553507]

>>13553486
What are you even insinuating? That an antinatalist will teach their children not to have children?
The ideology dies because they dont have any children dumbshit. The people having children are the ones that replace them.

[Anonymous No.13553517]

>>13553507
>The ideology dies because they dont have any children dumbshit
Are you a drooling fucking retard?

What about people who have kids and then those kids decide to be antinatalist? Well you fucking idiot?

[Anonymous No.13553521]

pic related

[Anonymous No.13553528]

>>13553517
Then those kids dont have kids. Its a self defeating cycle.
maybe try putting the vape pen down and think first before posting.

[Anonymous No.13553529]

>>13553426
>having sex

[Anonymous No.13553538]

>>13553528
>Then those kids dont have kids. Its a self defeating cycle.
Not really. They're stopping millions of children from being born into this horrible world. Even if one person refuses to mate, it's a huge success.

[Anonymous No.13553551]

>Look, daddy's home!

[Anonymous No.13553553]

>>13553538
You sound too young to be posting on this site.
Ill spell it out for you. No ideology or culture survives and grows unless it encourages the minds it infests to grow too. Thats why islam and christianity dominate the world populations, because they promote virility and fertility.
If you think children arent likely to grow up to think like their parents youre at best naive.

[Anonymous No.13553575]

>>13553553
>You sound too young to be posting on this site.
You sound like a twat.
>Ill spell it out for you. No ideology or culture survives and grows unless it encourages the minds it infests to grow too.
Like I already said, the goal isn't total domination, that's unrealistic. The goal is stopping children being born, so whether one person or a million adopt antinatalism WE WIN.
>Thats why islam and christianity dominate the world populations, because they promote virility and fertility.
And? America is a supposedly Christian country and what do they do except pay lip service? They sin every day of their lives without remorse, if you count true god fearing Christians the numbers are a lot smaller.
>If you think children arent likely to grow up to think like their parents youre at best naive.
If that was true antinatalism would've died out ages ago, but it's still around and plenty of people abide by it.

If even one person refuses to procreate, we win a greater victory than whatever tripe you believe in. We prevent millions from being born, what've you done?

[Anonymous No.13553577]

>>13553426
>the current level of antinatalist "reasoning"
Guess it's still better to realise you have no argument than showing up only to get thrown in a locker over and over.

[Anonymous No.13553582]

>>13553575
Nobody chooses not to procreate. Those who don't procreate are those who are unable to procreate because they can't attract women

[Anonymous No.13553585]

Watch me btfo all antinatalist logic in a single sentence:
>why don't you just kill yourself then?
Now watch all the seethoids respond below.

[Anonymous No.13553587]

>>13553426
have sex

t. I agree but just bought plan b for my gf because I came inside while she was ovulating again, my bad, but seriously if I have a kid it will be because I can't pull out in the moment, birth control kills her sex drive, condoms feel terrible, and lamb condoms cost too much and smell weird

[Anonymous No.13553595]

>>13553582
>Nobody chooses not to procreate
They do. Plenty of couples choose not to have kids all the time. You don't believe this because you're single, you've never had a wife or kids but you want them because you have nothing else in your life to feel pride about.

[Anonymous No.13553611]

>>13553575
Lmao I was right.
You must be 18 to post here johnny

[Anonymous No.13553615]

>>13553611
I'm 32 you child

[Anonymous No.13553620]

>>13553575
>If even one person refuses to procreate, we win a greater victory than whatever tripe you believe in. We prevent millions from being born, what've you done?
That probably sounded a lot cooler in your head.

[Anonymous No.13553624]

>>13553620
>That probably sounded a lot cooler in your head.
Well? What have you done? Nothing. All your lofty ideals amount to nothing, yet you sit here criticising mine when they produce results you could only dream of.

[Anonymous No.13553625]

>>13553426
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children

[Anonymous No.13553626]

>>13553615
>32 and childless.
If youre a woman youve already hit the wall and its too late anyway, if youre a man youre just pathetic

[Anonymous No.13553628]

>>13553624
I had a kid

[Anonymous No.13553631]

>>13553626
>if youre a man youre just pathetic
seething
>>13553628
Having a child isn't an achievement, millions do it every day.

[Anonymous No.13553638]

>wife can't have kids
>get to creampie her daily if I want

[Anonymous No.13553639]

>>13553638
Based trannywife

[Anonymous No.13553640]

>>13553434
>>13553460
>>13553486
>>13553517
>>13553538
>>13553575
>>13553615
>>13553624

[Anonymous No.13553643]

>>13553631
>having a child isnt an achievement
Than neither is preventing one.

[Anonymous No.13553649]

>>13553639
kek
Nah, not a tranny

[Anonymous No.13553652]

>>13553643
>Than neither is preventing one.
It is though.

You're saving not just one, but millions of children from suffering. All you've done is subject an innocent life to suffering and continue the cycle. You've doomed millions to a horrible existence.

And for what? So you can feel good about yourself.

[Anonymous No.13553654]

>>13553640
He's not even wrong tho

[Anonymous No.13553660]

>>13553652
>You're saving not just one, but millions of children from suffering.
Are you in high school? Or are you from Reddit?

[Anonymous No.13553665]

>>13553660
>Are you in high school? Or are you from Reddit?
You've yet to provide an argument proving me wrong. You're the one with the kid right? You're just trying to argue you're not a selfish, evil prick because it's too late to take it back.

[Anonymous No.13553669]

>>13553652
Why do you keep saying that? Someone not nutting inside a woman doesnt prevent suffering. The majority of men dont successfully reproduce, The majority of women do. For every 3 incels theres a chad willing to breed all the leftover whores. You being a volcel changes nothing.

[Anonymous No.13553670]

>>13553665
You have to be 18 to post here. Your 'it's evil to have a kid because suffering' theory is what every 15 year old comes up with and it's probably a way for you to cope with being an incel neckbeard who can't take responsibility of any kind

[Anonymous No.13553674]

>>13553665
Not him, but I agree you sound like an edgy teenager.

[Anonymous No.13553676]

>>13553669
>Man or woman chooses not to procreate
>No child is created
>That child never has children
>Those children never have children
And so on and so forth. Millions of children are never born, millions are saved from existence, millions avoid the suffering that awaits in life. Who cares if other people procreate, the people who aren't scum will choose not to and save billions of children.

>You being a volcel changes nothing.
You can have sex all you like, condoms exist.

[Anonymous No.13553680]

>>13553670
>You have to be 18 to post here.
I told you, I'm 32.
>Your 'it's evil to have a kid because suffering' theory is what every 15 year old comes up with
And they're not wrong.
>and it's probably a way for you to cope with being an incel neckbeard who can't take responsibility of any kind
I have a gf of 6 years and she's antinatalist too. Take responsibility for yourself, stop putting your own selfish desires first. Stop breeding.

[Anonymous No.13553683]

>>13553674
I don't care what you think, I'm right.

[Anonymous No.13553684]

>>13553680
>I told you, I'm 32.
Yeah sure kid sure you are

[Anonymous No.13553691]

>>13553676
This is a naive worldview. Exponental population growth doesnt sprout from one edgy highschool student who cant get laid. Theres still darwinism in effect. The taller, more attractive chads in your class will be the ones having kids. Someone with your mindset was a deadend anyway.

[Anonymous No.13553692]

Imagine being with a woman who won't let you spread your genes like every functional living being seeks to. Did she also put you in a chastity cage and make you get a vasectomy? Are you perchance a vegan too?

[Anonymous No.13553695]

>>13553692
>Imagine being with a woman who won't let you spread your genes like every functional living being seeks to
Imagine being so pea brained the peak of your achievements in life is wanking into a fleshy hole.

[Anonymous No.13553697]

>>13553680
Youre gunna end up raising a half-nig baby. Calling it now.

[Anonymous No.13553699]

>>13553691
Keep crying, I'm preventing millions from suffering. You're being a selfish little manchild who can't give even one good reason for why you're breeding.

[Anonymous No.13553702]

>>13553697
My gf is black, I'm white. The only way I'd be raising a half nig kid is if its my own.

[Anonymous No.13553703]

>>13553692
most women see the men at their level as being below them because they could get a hotter guy to impregnate them and some other less hot guy to raise the children

this fact literally kills discussion, people go fucking insane when you mention this

[Anonymous No.13553707]

>>13553702
Full nig then

[Anonymous No.13553708]

>>13553624
I had two kids with a third on the way. Mad?

[Anonymous No.13553710]

>>13553708
>Mad?
No, I just feel sorry for your kids. Not only were they born, they're being raised by a childish twat who when asked "daddy why was I born" you'll answer "HURRR IT'S MY CHOICE EVERY BEING NEEDS TO BREED LOL FUCKING LOSER".

[Anonymous No.13553712]

>>13553551

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.13553728]

Reading through all of OPs replys is really entertaining. Watching a teenager try to concoct an idenity on the fly to prove points in an arguement is hilarious. Right now hes currently a 32yo man with a black gf who is also antinatalist. Keep going OP this is great. Where you live? What ethnicity are you? Whats your job?

pic unrelate

[Anonymous No.13553729]

>>13553464

That doesn't refute the truth of the content of the idea. Damaged people find truth all the time, whether as a result of their suffering, or independently of it.

Where pure logic is concerned, it controls over your normie dodge, more immediately than over some virginal philosophy.

[Anonymous No.13553733]

>>13553728
>Where you live? What ethnicity are you? Whats your job?
Why? How is that relevant?

[Anonymous No.13553739]

>>13553733
It would explain why youre a virgin for starters

[Anonymous No.13553746]

>>13553695
God said procreate. I am a Christian.

[Anonymous No.13553750]

>>13553746
Ok retard

[Anonymous No.13553753]

>>13553750
I am gonna have a nice afternoon with my wife and two daughters today. We are gonna go swimming and then eat something nice together in the woods. The younger girl is already excited desu. Life's good, anon.

[Anonymous No.13553755]

>>13553625
why?

[Anonymous No.13553758]

>>13553753
>Daughters

[Anonymous No.13553794]

Is anti-natalism the ultimate COPE philosophy?

[Anonymous No.13553798]

>>13553506
You have really miserable life, don't you Anon?

[Anonymous No.13553810]

>>13553794
Considering only high school incels and 40 something feminists support it, yeah

[Anonymous No.13553811]

>>13553798
I have a great life and I feel good about being a good person, I didn't subject an innocent life to decades of suffering out of some selfish, pea brain desire or justification like "muh lineage".

[Anonymous No.13553817]

>>13553811
>sacrifice 2 decades of your life for an offspring
>selfish

[Anonymous No.13553825]

>>13553712
>>13553551

[Anonymous No.13553826]

>>13553817
You're acting like you're doing them a favour, like they owe you for being born. Like you think it's this great gift. You had a child for selfish reasons and now you want to romanticise it because you know you're a scab.

[Anonymous No.13553832]

>>13553826
>You had a child for selfish reasons
nope

[Anonymous No.13553835]

>>13553832
Why did you have a child?

[Anonymous No.13553841]

I can't really imagine being antinatalist. All they talk about is suffering. My sister have 2 kids and they are pretty happy desu. What exactly you mean by suffering, OP? For me you are just whiny faggot.

[Anonymous No.13553845]

>>13553835
for non-selfish reasons

[Anonymous No.13553850]

>>13553841
>My sister have 2 kids and they are pretty happy desu
Are you a simpleton?

Of course they're happy, they're children. The suffering comes when they reach puberty and become self aware to a greater degree. The suffering becomes greater to more they age.

[Anonymous No.13553852]

>>13553845
Such as? C'mon, it can't be that hard. The only reason you'd hide your reasons is if they're selfish.

[Anonymous No.13553855]

>omg I hate kids they're so annoying I'd never have one
>brb going to play my nintendo switch for 2 hours

[Anonymous No.13553859]

>>13553855
>omg I hate kids they're so annoying I'd never have one
>brb doing whatever the fuck I want because I wasn't a short sighted, selfish retard who dragged another soul into the world only to neglect it after the novelty wore off

[Anonymous No.13553862]

>>13553710
>I didn't ask to be born Mum!
Grow up, lol. Most people would rather be alive, your diseased mind is not the norm.

[Anonymous No.13553863]

>>13553852
>yes I'd put down a fifth of my life just because I'm selfish enough for this commitment
do you even hear yourself?

[Anonymous No.13553868]

>>13553859
t. had a nigger father

[Anonymous No.13553870]

>>13553863
Well? Where's your non selfish reasons for having a child?

[Anonymous No.13553871]

>>13553826
>You're acting like you're doing them a favour,
Because now they exist. Existing is better than not existing. This is inarguably True.
Also humanity continues and will enjoy my offspring's contributions; Even If he (neutral He, i won't use (((they))) as singular) decides himself to become antinatalist.
Something that won't happen anyway

[Anonymous No.13553873]

>>13553859
>seething söyboy

[Anonymous No.13553875]

>yes, I'm an antinatalist, how can you tell?

[Anonymous No.13553884]

>>13553871
>Existing is better than not existing
If you believe this you should be declared legally braindead.

[Anonymous No.13553885]

>>13553871
>Existing is better than not existing. This is inarguably True.
To be fair some people would rather kill themselves (ANs are too pussy to do so), but the vast, vast majority of people are happy they get to experience the joys of living, which means antinatalism doesn't even make sense by its own utilitarian autism logic.

[Anonymous No.13553890]

>>13553595
This. Not everyone wants to have a family.

[Anonymous No.13553893]

>>13553551
Imagine coming back home to see this after long hours of wageslaving in office

[Anonymous No.13553898]

HAHAHAHAHA HE CAN'T EVEN NAME ONE FUCKING REASON FOR HAVING A KID BECAUSE HE KNOWS THEY'RE ALL SELFISH FUCK BREEDERS ARE FUCKING BRAINLESS RETARDS

[Anonymous No.13553900]

>>13553870
I still don't get how it's 'selfish' to devote a quarter of your life (or more) to someone other than your self. Why are anti-natalists so low IQ?

[Anonymous No.13553901]

>>13553859
Not having children is far more short-sighted than fucking around and doing whatever you want. youll die alone.

[Anonymous No.13553905]

>>13553900
You've still yet to name a single non-selfish reason for why you had a child.

[Anonymous No.13553906]

>>13553898
S E E T H I N G
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[Anonymous No.13553907]

>>13553898
>the bugman seethes as he loses the argument
amazing

[Anonymous No.13553909]

>>13553850
I talk about my sister and her family in general. She seems to be happy, you stupid moron.

[Anonymous No.13553913]

>>13553901
>youll die alone
So you drag a life into the world so you don't have to die alone? Selfish fucking child.

[Anonymous No.13553914]

>>13553884
I dont "believe" This. I know this to be true because I can see How all the suffering I lived through and everything You want to escape made me grow

[Anonymous No.13553915]

>>13553905
laboring for 18 years just to serve someone else is by definition a selfless act. Are you this retarded?

[Anonymous No.13553918]

>>13553909
>I talk about my sister and her family in general. She seems to be happy
Then you're blind. More than once, she's wished they were never born.

[Anonymous No.13553919]

i really feel bad for the western men.
why the fuck there is no concept of arrange marriages in west?

[Anonymous No.13553921]

>>13553914
Do you think you live in a movie? You don't, you didn't grow, you're the same selfish, self centered moron you always were.

>>13553915
Name. One. Single. Reason. For. Procreating. That. Isn't. Selfish.

[Anonymous No.13553922]

>>13553918
>the anti-natalists proclaims himself to be a mind reader just to prove himself right
convenient isn't it?

[Anonymous No.13553924]

>why yes, I won't die alone because I have a good relationship with my children, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.13553925]

>>13553919
There was But it wasn't freee enought

[Anonymous No.13553927]

>>13553922
You won't understand until you have a child yourself. It's not all sunshine and rainbows, 99% of the time it's not but a chore and your sister knows this.

[Anonymous No.13553929]

>>13553921
>shit he's found a logical hole in my argument
>I better just repeat myself and act like I know things

[Anonymous No.13553931]

>>13553924
>hahaha I forced life into the world because I'm too much of a selfish pussy to die alone

[Anonymous No.13553935]

>>13553929
You still haven't named a single non selfish reason for procreating. This is the 13th time I've asked you and you're still dodging because you know there isn't one.

[Anonymous No.13553936]

Why won't antinatalists realise that not everyone is a depressed suicidal faggot like them?

[Anonymous No.13553937]

>>13553925
what do you mean by that?

[Anonymous No.13553938]

>>13553913
Honestly OP why dont you just kys? Like why not? Youre only a net drain on society, and its not like you have any reason to live anyway. You have no family and no desire to start one. Why live?

[Anonymous No.13553941]

>>13553927
I do have a child idiot, obviously it isn't a cakewalk what did you expect? life in general requires work you lazy NEET.

[Anonymous No.13553945]

>>13553935
>p-please j-just answer an illogical question do you realize my life hinges on winning online arguments?

[Anonymous No.13553946]

>>13553898
>gets utterly btfo
>resorts to having a meltdown
Seriously, what's the point of acting like this?

[Anonymous No.13553947]

>>13553941
>I do have a child idiot
>"My sister have 2 kids and they are pretty happy desu"
You don't have any children. Why would you first bring up your sisters children if you yourself had a child? You're lying and trying to cover it up.

[Anonymous No.13553951]

>knowing how to even make a baby

[Anonymous No.13553950]

>>13553945
>an illogical question
"Why did you have a baby" is an illogical question?

God help your child, it's clearly fucked.

[Anonymous No.13553954]

>>13553938
I don't judge the value of my life on how useful to society I am. If you do that's really pathetic.

>>13553946
>He still can't name a single non selfish reason for having a child

[Anonymous No.13553956]

>>13553947
I'm not that anon

[Anonymous No.13553960]

NAME ONE NON SELFISH REASON TO HAVE A JOB
YOU CAN'T
all pollution is caused by people with jobs. Those coal plants aint running themselves
the holocaust? required a lot of employees to carry out
everything will be better if we all just sat in hovels and waited to die.

Try and prove me wrong, if you dare

[Anonymous No.13553961]

>>13553956
And do you do the childrearing? No, your wife does. You disappear all day. I guarantee you your wife has more than once wished they never existed.

[Anonymous No.13553962]

>>13553950
>"Why did you have a baby" is an illogical question?
I did answer that
>>13553845

[Anonymous No.13553963]

>>13553960
There is nothing wrong with anything you just said, dumb breeder

[Anonymous No.13553967]

>>13553961
>I guarantee you your wife has more than once wished they never existed.
I bet you'd know that feeling

[Anonymous No.13553970]

>>13553962
That's not an answer. Be specific. WHAT non selfish reasons?

[Anonymous No.13553971]

>>13553954
So why live anon? Why is your life valuable? You still havent told us

[Anonymous No.13553974]

>>13553967
>Dodging because he knows I'm right
She's told you she regrets having them, didn't she?

[Anonymous No.13553976]

>>13553971
>Why is your life valuable?
It's valuable to me and that's all that matters.

[Anonymous No.13553977]

>>13553974
Dodging what?

You're clearly losing the plot lol

I haven't seen this much seething since Kaczynskifag lashed out at us

[Anonymous No.13553980]

>>13553935
You still haven't named a single logical reason as to why you haven't killed yourself.
>>13553936
Because they are desperate, absolutely desperate to blame their pathetic personal failings on anyone but themselves.
Literally angsty high schooler tier philosophy. Just embarrassing if you're over the age of 18.

[Anonymous No.13553982]

>NOOOOOOO STOP ENJOYINGYOURSELF! WHY ISN'T EVERYONE MISERABLE LIKE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.13553983]

>>13553951
lmao, if we didn't have porn, sex ed in schools that would probably be true for many if they didn't ask their parents how 'babby is make' or their parents giving them 'the talk' or youth corrupting them

[Anonymous No.13553984]

>>13553970
You question is moot because having a child isnt selfish. If you asked anyone alive if they would prefer to exist or not exist they would say they want to exist.
If you genuinely believe the contrary then you should kys because you dont want to exist.

[Anonymous No.13553986]

>>13553976
lmao this is the dude who keeps harping about 'muh selfish breeder'?

[Anonymous No.13553988]

>>13553976
>me me me, its all about me
Sounds selfish

[Anonymous No.13553990]

Antinatalists in absolute SHAMBLES
Why do you incels insist on making these threads? You get btfo every single time.

[Anonymous No.13553997]

>>13553984
>You question is moot because having a child isnt selfish
this

he's clearly had a nigger father who didn't give a shit about him and left his family early on, now he's venting his frustration out on us

[Anonymous No.13553998]

>>13553986
>>13553988
Who am I harming? No one.

Who are you harming? Your child, and their children, and their children.

[Anonymous No.13554003]

>>13553984
>You question is moot because having a child isnt selfish
He says, providing 0 justification.

[Anonymous No.13554004]

>>13553998
>Who am I harming? No one.
you're clearly harming yourself

chill out and take a break, this much stress is tenfold what parents experience with their kids

[Anonymous No.13554008]

>>13553990
>You get btfo every single time
Where?

All you've done is dodge questions and cry.

[Anonymous No.13554011]

>>13553998
By your own logic you would harm less people if you kys. So why do you continue to live? Honest question. you only live for yourself and consume resources that would better serve someone else.

[Anonymous No.13554015]

>>13554003
you don't need justification for a logical axiom

unless you're a nigger father, having a child is a selfless act

[Anonymous No.13554020]

>>13554011
>By your own logic you would harm less people if you kys
I'd harm myself if I killed myself.

[Anonymous No.13554022]

>this thread in a nutshell

[Anonymous No.13554023]

>>13554008
>cry
>>13553898
LOL!

[Anonymous No.13554024]

>>13554015
>having a child is a selfless act
Saying things doesn't make them true

[Anonymous No.13554026]

>*cough* thanks for helping me move that heavy object, son

[Anonymous No.13554030]

>>13554003
Read the second sentance. He provides justification. I swear antinats are braindead

[Anonymous No.13554034]

>>13554020
So what? Youre being selfish if you dont kys. People are suffering because you exist and take up space that they could better use

[Anonymous No.13554035]

>>13554024
>saying true things doesn't make them true
ok brainlet..

[Anonymous No.13554036]

>>13554022

[Anonymous No.13554039]

>>13554034
>People are suffering because you exist and take up space that they could better use
It's not in my control to stop their suffering. If I die someone else will be there to make them suffer. However it IS in my control to not create new life.

[Anonymous No.13554042]

>>13554036
Its not

[Anonymous No.13554043]

>>13554020
But you will no longer exists in this world of suffering and torment. Surely that's worth a few seconds of physical pain?

[Anonymous No.13554044]

[Anonymous No.13554045]

>>13554036
You've been given solid and inarguable reasons all through this thread, you just refuse to accept them then ask the exact same question. You're a literal NPC and a shitty one at that.

[Anonymous No.13554047]

>>13554039
Some else will be there to make kids too. So your life is utterly pointless. You still havent given us a non-selfish reason for why you dont kys

[Anonymous No.13554052]

>>13554036

[Anonymous No.13554053]

>>13554045
>You've been given solid and inarguable reasons all through this thread
Where?

[Anonymous No.13554057]

>>13554053
Both blind, and retarded

[Anonymous No.13554055]

>>13554052
based

[Anonymous No.13554056]

>>13554047
>Some else will be there to make kids too
What other people do is not in my control, it IS in my control to not create new life.

[Anonymous No.13554059]

>>13554056
If you kys you wont make kids. Remember that you are a drain on society? Give me a non-selfish reason why you wont kys?

[Anonymous No.13554060]

>>13554057
Well? I don't see any.

[Anonymous No.13554062]

>>13553937
That It's considered unethical Because it "infringes people's personal freeedoms!"
Never mind that our liberal state is the most curtailed It has ever been.

[Anonymous No.13554065]

I truly don’t know who is more insufferable, veganiggers or anti-natalists

[Anonymous No.13554067]

>>13554059
>If you kys you wont make kids
I can be alive and not create life.
>Remember that you are a drain on society?
That isn't true and I don't care either way. If you care so much about society, stop straining the system with your children.
>Give me a non-selfish reason why you wont kys?
I don't have to, I'm affecting no one but myself when I choose to continue living.

[Anonymous No.13554068]

>>13554053
>having and raising children takes a great deal of effort with little reward, especially in the Western world
>the vast majority of people would rather experience the infinite joys of life than never have existed at all, being brought into the world for 99.9% of the population is a blessing
>logically it follows that reproduction is a selfless act in of itself

[Anonymous No.13554071]

>>13554059
>Remember that you are a drain on society?
Society is a spook, you stupid dweeb.

[Anonymous No.13554072]

>>13553935
>You still haven't named a single non selfish reason for procreating.
No, You have simply named each and every one of them selfish without any more elaboration.

[Anonymous No.13554074]

>>13554060
Here
>>13553984

[Anonymous No.13554076]

>>13554026
>how very selfish of you!
>real men kill themselves after getting btfo on /lit/

[Anonymous No.13554077]

>>13554071
Still havent given any reason why you dont an hero

[Anonymous No.13554079]

>>13553921
>i could never grow and develop as a person so it must be impossible!
Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.13554080]

>>13554074
>If you asked anyone alive if they would prefer to exist or not exist they would say they want to exist.
This isn't true. I'd prefer not to exist, therefore he's wrong.

[Anonymous No.13554082]

>>13554077
He doesn't have to. Even if you could prove that he should, it would not refute antinatalism. The most you could do is brand him a hypocrite. The suicide argument you're trying to make doesn't prove anything and is nothing more than an ad hominem.

[Anonymous No.13554084]

>>13554080
>I'd prefer not to exist
and yet here you are, existing
funny that

[Anonymous No.13554085]

>>13554080
>I'd prefer not to exist
clearly not considering you're still alive

[Anonymous No.13554086]

>>13554080
So kys?

[Anonymous No.13554089]

>>13554082
So hes a hypocrite then.

[Anonymous No.13554094]

>>13554072
Like what?

>>13554068
>having and raising children takes a great deal of effort with little reward
-Guilt tripping your children into looking after you when you're old
-Slaves who do household chores for you and your wife without payment
-Selfish shit like "muh lineage will live on!"
-You think of your children as your second chance at life, to succeed where you failed because you live through them like a weeb with his anime

[Anonymous No.13554096]

>>13554089
Even if he is (he isn't), so what? It means nothing.

[Anonymous No.13554098]

>>13554084
>>13554085
>>13554086
Preferring not to exist and wanting to kill yourself are not the same. Please use your brains, children.

[Anonymous No.13554100]

>>13554068
>being brought into the world for 99.9% of the population is a blessing
doubt.jpg

[Anonymous No.13554107]

>>13554094
>wash the dishes? This truly is a world not worth living in
>>13554098
explain the difference, please

[Anonymous No.13554108]

>>13554096
Him being a hypocrite means he does not truely believe the values he is proposing and is thus arguing in bad faith, ie trolling.

[Anonymous No.13554109]

>>13554094
>Guilt tripping your children into looking after you when you're old
Doesn't happen in the West, that's what pensions are for.
>Slaves who do household chores for you and your wife without payment
Nonsensical emotional crap, taking the bin out once a week is not slavery. And in any case their "payment" here is food and shelter, possibly pocket money and, of course, the priceless miracle of life.
>Selfish shit like "muh lineage will live on!"
Not an argument, not even my argument.
>You think of your children as your second chance at life, to succeed where you failed because you live through them like a weeb with his anime
Projection.

[Anonymous No.13554110]

>>13554107
>It's just picking some cotton, stop whining nigger!

[Anonymous No.13554114]

>>13554098
Explain the difference

[Anonymous No.13554116]

>>13554109
>Doesn't happen in the West
If you're going to lie then I'm not going to talk to you

[Anonymous No.13554121]

>>13554108
It doesn't mean either of those things.

[Anonymous No.13554122]

>>13554110
>>13554094
>washing the dishes is the same as slavery
you must be 12 or older to post on this website

[Anonymous No.13554123]

>>13554121
Ok retard

[Anonymous No.13554124]

>Present antinatalist views
>No one is capable of engaging with it and just insults you instead
Every time

[Anonymous No.13554126]

>>13554122
Slavery is slavery. If your child refused to do chores you'd punish them wouldn't you?

[Anonymous No.13554129]

>>13554121

[Anonymous No.13554130]

Wtf, why is this shit up? Jannies clean it up

[Anonymous No.13554131]

>>13554129
That does not mean that someone does not actually hold the beliefs that they do. Especially when they are specifically disputing with you about the "logical conclusion" of said beliefs that you have made up and forced upon them.

[Anonymous No.13554137]

>>13554131
Keep digging that hole boy

[Anonymous No.13554138]

>>13554098
They aren't the same only if you are a moron/coward/pussy clinging to something you don't like and feel no obligation for.
You admit to having a will to live when life makes you miserable, you despise it and don't even live out of duty. This is top cuck ideology. You will yourself into being miserable, don't blame your parents or society or the world or God.
I agree that anti-natalism doesn't carry suicide as a necessary consequence, but the only alternative is being laughably pathetic.

[Anonymous No.13554141]

>>13554126
No, I'd deny them pocket money.
Also, cleaning up after yourself is not slavery.

[Anonymous No.13554145]

>>13554137
I dispute that it always means that, as there are many reasons that one might contradict their own beliefs, rather than not actually believing them. But even if I were to grant it, it would still have no bearing on whether antinatalism is true. As I said, your "argument" is nothing more than an ad hominem, since you cannot engage with antinatalism on ethical grounds.

[Anonymous No.13554147]

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE DISHES!

[Anonymous No.13554148]

>>13554138
This. Killing yourself is far more honourable than being a pathetic whiner.
>b-but I need to convince others!
I doubt you've changed the mind of even a single person here with your frankly embarrassing, high school level arguments.

[Anonymous No.13554153]

>>13554141
>I'd deny them pocket money
That's a punishment.

Your denying your child money, which means you're denying them the ability to socialise with other children. That's a punishment. Nobody wants to hang out with poor kids and you know it so you use it as a threat.

[Anonymous No.13554154]

>>13554141
By your logic you owe them. You gave birth to them, they're your problem, so you should spend the rest of your life waiting on them hand and foot.

[Anonymous No.13554159]

>>13554145
So youll have to concede that not commiting suicide is in direct contradiction to holding an antinatal belief, and thus, impossible to truely hold. Anyone who does is a sham.

[Anonymous No.13554162]

>>13553921
You think you're on Twitter or something? Fuck off soíboì

[Anonymous No.13554165]

>>13554159
I don't concede it at all. All I've stated is that you have no argument, because you don't.

[Anonymous No.13554167]

>>13554159
>not commiting suicide is in direct contradiction to holding an antinatal belief
Wrong.

Anti new life isn't pro suicide.

[Anonymous No.13554170]

>>13554153
That's life, dude. You don't have to work when you're an adult but you'll be stuck on welfare and be unable to buy things you want.

[Anonymous No.13554175]

>>13554154
That makes literally no sense.

[Anonymous No.13554177]

>>13554170
>That's life, dude.
No, that's a punishment for not performing work you told them to do when they have no option to leave. That's slavery.

[Anonymous No.13554180]

>>13554175
>cleaning up after yourself is not slavery
>"I made a mess and made a baby, but it's not my responsiblity to clean up after it, it's the childs respsonsibility".
Hypocrite

[Anonymous No.13554183]

>>13554177
If not being rewarded for work you don't do is slavery then so is living. What can really be said at that point but get over it and stop being a baby?

[Anonymous No.13554184]

>>13554165
>>13554167
The moral arguement that having more children causes suffering cant be exclusively applied to new life. It must also apply to current life. If this is true, then any antinatal will what to khs to cease such suffering he imposes. Thus, he is a hypocrite for remaining alive, and does not truely hold the beliefs he espouses.

[Anonymous No.13554187]

>>13554183
>What can really be said at that point but get over it and stop being a baby?
How about "stop having children so you don't have this problem in the first place".

[Anonymous No.13554191]

When antinatalists talk about bringing a child into suffering I thought they were talking about disease or extreme poverty , not the F U C K I N G D I S H E S

[Anonymous No.13554192]

>>13554180
>I ate food that was given to me free of charge, the least I can do is wash up the plate I dirtied
>actually I can't be arsed but I understand that means no pay
This argument is just comical, genuinely embarrassed for you.

[Anonymous No.13554193]

>>13554180
Not the correct usage of hypocrite lmao

[Anonymous No.13554195]

>>13554184
It's like you didn't read any of the preceding conversation at all.

[Anonymous No.13554196]

>>13554184
I already explained to you, it's in my power to not create new life. It's not in my power to remove suffering from anyone already alive. Even if I killed myself, it wouldn't stop you from procreating.

[Anonymous No.13554200]

>>13554187
Because the vast majority of people would rather live than not, and only absolute retards think doing the dishes is slavery, we've been over this.

[Anonymous No.13554201]

>>13554192
OHHHHHH YOU FED YOUR OWN CHILD

YOU'RE SUCH A MARTYR

EVERYONE HE FED HIS OWN CHILD GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE THAT CHILD SHOULD BE WORSHIPPING THE GROUND HE WALKS ON!

[Anonymous No.13554203]

>>13554196
If your goal is to persude people from procreating youre doing a horrible job. If anything this makes me want to impregnate my girlfriend more

[Anonymous No.13554205]

Hey antinatalistanon, what are your thoughts on homework?

[Anonymous No.13554207]

>>13554200
>Because the vast majority of people would rather live than not
You don't know that, and creating life is an entirely selfish act.

[Anonymous No.13554208]

>>13554201
Having a meltdown won't change anything, food is one of the infinite joys of living.

[Anonymous No.13554212]

>>13553649
tell her to dilate

[Anonymous No.13554216]

T H E F U C K I N G D I S H E S
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[Anonymous No.13554217]

>>13554208
Feeding, clothing and raising your child is the bare minimum expected of a parent. You're not doing the child a favour, they don't owe you for giving them food.

[Anonymous No.13554222]

>>13554205
It's gay, if a teacher gives homework they're shit at teaching.

[Anonymous No.13554224]

>>13554196
Honestly, I think that people who use the "why don't you kill yourself" argument are simply ignorant and mean-spirited. Being born means that you are present as a human body, with all human survival instincts, as well as whatever connections and relations you have formed or been forced into. Actually killing oneself requires a strong act of will to override this survival instinct (as well a great degree of pain depending on how you do it) and can cause great suffering to others (such as one's parents). Life is like a prison which tortures you and emotionally blackmails you if you try to escape. Trying to spin this into some "gotcha" argument is truly insipid and vile, and is nothing more than an emotional outburst because people find antinatalism abhorrent. To turn around and spit on anyone who tries to advocate it strikes them as righteous.

[Anonymous No.13554227]

>>13554207
>You don't know that
I'm happy, my wife is happy. Suicide rates are low in my country so I assume the average Joe is happy.
Not everyone is a depressed butthurt bitch whining because he has to do the dishes like you.
I'd have a lot more respect for your argument if you think the risk of suffering, actual suffering, is too high to risk having children. If disagree, but at least understand your reasoning. But the fucking dishes? Fuck me, I'm literally talking to a 12 year old.

[Anonymous No.13554236]

>>13554227
>Suicide rates are low in my country so I assume the average Joe is happy.
You're an idiot, stop posting.

[Anonymous No.13554238]

>>13554217
Yes I am, I brought them into the world, literally the biggest favour a human can experience.
Of course experiencing the uncountable joys of existence comes with certain requirements, but like I said the vast majority of the population is happy someone made that choice for them.

[Anonymous No.13554244]

>>13554224
Human survival instincts includes wanting to procreate. The suicide arguement touches on this because if they are willing to ignore one instinct, then why not the other? Its a logic trap thats intended to show the stupidity of the antinatal arguement, not an actual suggestion to hang themselves.

[Anonymous No.13554245]

>>13554236
If life is as unbearable as you claim it is, why isn't suicide more common?
Most people are happy to be alive, you literally cannot dispute this. You're just a failure.

[Anonymous No.13554248]

In fact, both natalism and antinatalism are selfish. Also, suicide is selfish too. Every choice We make in life is equally selfish, so there is no one and only objective reason for having children or not having children.
t. 27 y.o. anti-natalist who also realizes and accepts the meaninglessness of his own life yet is afraid to commit sudoku

[Anonymous No.13554251]

>>13554238
>Yes I am, I brought them into the world, literally the biggest favour a human can experience
...wow

The absolutely overwhelming selfishness and childishness is gobsmacking. I can't believe you're responsible for a human life. I pity your children.

[Anonymous No.13554252]

>>13554244
It's not as simple as that and the fact that you think it is demonstrates either your own stupidity or your own malice.
>teehee I refuted your suffering with a logic trap ;)
Further proof of what I said.

[Anonymous No.13554254]

>>13554251
>no argument

[Anonymous No.13554257]

>>13554252
Nothing but ad hominim

[Anonymous No.13554259]

>>13554238
>Of course experiencing the uncountable joys of existence comes with certain requirements
Like being your slave?

>>13554245
>If you're not killing yourself you're happy
Just stop, it's embarassing.

[Anonymous No.13554260]

>>13554257
If I'm given ad hominem I respond with such. If you want me to respond with an argument then feel free to make a real one.

[Anonymous No.13554263]

>>13553426
Yeah I will
And you're a genetic dead end
BYE! BYE BYE!

[Anonymous No.13554266]

>>13554254
No, I'm just disgusted and appalled at you. You've legitimately surprised me with the level of self centeredness, immaturity and petty spite you've displayed.

[Anonymous No.13554267]

>T H E D I S H E S

[Anonymous No.13554273]

>>13554263
you're a useful idiot that will spread human genes for me and the other billions of people, you're nothing special kid.

[Anonymous No.13554274]

>>13554260
The comment you were replying to contained no ad hominem you stupid nigger

[Anonymous No.13554275]

>>13554259
>doing the dishes is slavery
This is the only embarrassing argument ITT.

[Anonymous No.13554277]

>>13554267
>It's just the dishes
>It's just after school study
>It's just a sunday job
>It's just college
>It's just a loan
>It's just a retirement home
>It's just medical bills
>It's just funeral bills

[Anonymous No.13554278]

>>13554196
Lol, what a retard. Of course it is in your power to remove suffering from anyone already alive the way you perceive it, simply by kiling them. You could even be a hero on your own terms by killing those evil potential parents who demonically rub their hands at the thought of having one of their offspring slave-kids washing their dishes. If you just kill them you might not end their suffering appreciatively, but at least the suffering they would bring into this world.

[Anonymous No.13554282]

>>13554273
BYE!

[Anonymous No.13554289]

>>13554266
Literally, I already procreation was a selfless and innate good.
>>13554068
>>13554109
You went off on a tangent whining about having to do the dishes and some shit about anime because your initial argument is in tatters, my argument has been the same from the beginning, you're just unable to refute it.

[Anonymous No.13554292]

>>13554282
>BYE!
That's what your son will say in 14 years time when he becomes a tranny and decides to run off with his black, 35 year old boyfriend

[Anonymous No.13554295]

>>13554277
Oh woe is you. Life is so tough isnt it? Youre actually expected to work and contribute instead of being allowed to sit on your ass all day and play nintendo switch

[Anonymous No.13554300]

Have antinatalits proved that life=suffering=bad yet?

[Anonymous No.13554301]

>>13554295
>Oh woe is you. Life is so tough isnt it?
So why are you dragging new life into it? You know it's shit and you're subjecting them to it anyway. "The 6th graders bullied me when I was small, now it's my turn on top!".

You haven't progressed past the mental age of 10.

[Anonymous No.13554306]

>>13554301
Says the faggot that is complaining about doing the dishes

[Anonymous No.13554315]

>>13554300
Nope, now he's trying to pretend everyone secretly wishes they were never born. Embarrassing stuff.

[Anonymous No.13554319]

>>13554306
Answer the question, you child.

[Anonymous No.13554322]

>>13553426
204. Revolutionaries should have as many children as they can. There is strong scientific evidence that social attitudes are to a significant extent inherited. No one suggests that a social attitude is a direct outcome of a person’s genetic constitution, but it appears that personality traits are partly inherited and that certain personality traits tend, within the context of our society, to make a person more likely to hold this or that social attitude. Objections to these findings have been raised, but the objections are feeble and seem to be ideologically motivated. In any event, no one denies that children tend on the average to hold social attitudes similar to those of their parents. From our point of view it doesn’t matter all that much whether the attitudes are passed on genetically or through childhood training. In either case they ARE passed on.

205. The trouble is that many of the people who are inclined to rebel against the industrial system are also concerned about the population problems, hence they are apt to have few or no children. In this way they may be handing the world over to the sort of people who support or at least accept the industrial system. To insure the strength of the next generation of revolutionaries the present generation should reproduce itself abundantly. In doing so they will be worsening the population problem only slightly. And the important problem is to get rid of the industrial system, because once the industrial system is gone the world’s population necessarily will decrease (see paragraph 167); whereas, if the industrial system survives, it will continue developing new techniques of food production that may enable the world’s population to keep increasing almost indefinitely.

[Anonymous No.13554326]

>>13554315
I know. I even had an antinatalist phase. I'm still an incel but I grew out of it quickly

[Anonymous No.13554334]

>>13554319
Because I can, and theres nothing you can do to stop me

[Anonymous No.13554337]

>>13554300
Implying they do anything else than whinning.
>B-but I must convince others that they are mise able too, how dare they not be, they are just too stupid to realize it, it's all a ruse

[Anonymous No.13554338]

>>13554326
Lol same, luckily I grew out of it when I started college.

[Anonymous No.13554342]

>>13554301
>>13554319
>equating doing the dishes and going to school with actual suffering
>calling other people children

[Anonymous No.13554344]

>>13554292
Hey anon, if you're so certain that being a childless cuck is a fulfilling philosophy you wouldn't need to cope this hard.
Run along now.

[Anonymous No.13554346]

>>13554334
>Because I can, and theres nothing you can do to stop me
Wow.

What a wonderful father you'll make you petulant child.

[Anonymous No.13554355]

Why do people who do not have children find antinatalism so offensive?

[Anonymous No.13554358]

>>13554338
Me too, when I was young i had an uncle that was childless and lived alone and I thought it was so cool. Now that Im older ive realized how pathetic it is. I only see him at family gatherings now, hes fat, balding and has a liberal blog. Hes always starting arguements at the dinner table with the grandparents who are honestly too old for his shit.

[Anonymous No.13554359]

>>13554355
>mistaking mockery for offense
Classic

[Anonymous No.13554361]

>>13554355
Because they have no achivements to be proud of in their own life, so they think having a child will elevate them to a success.

[Anonymous No.13554363]

>>13554346
>youre a petulant child for having a child
nigger-tier logic.

[Anonymous No.13554364]

>>13554342
Maybe back in the 1300s when most children died before age 10 but you can really see how little rope they have left.
Equating chores with slavery just emphasises how weak their aruument truly is, anyone else would be humiliated to make such a claim but antinatalists have no shame at all.

[Anonymous No.13554368]

>>13554355
This>>13554359

[Anonymous No.13554369]

>>13554363
>Because I can, and theres nothing you can do to stop me
This is why you're a petulant child.

[Anonymous No.13554376]

>>13554369
And hes right isnt he? You cant stop him from having a kid. All you can do is sit there and whine.

[Anonymous No.13554380]

>>13554224
You talk like a person couldn't possible kill themselves because of survival instincts, but people suicide all the time to escape the suffering of life. Antinatalists who don't kill themselves can't think life is that bad.
I know lots of childless millennial couples with no kids nor plans to have them. But they don't wrap the decision up in some bullshit ideology. They're quite clear about their reasons: they don't want to take on the huge responsibility of raising kids. That's fine. Free country and all. Just don't pretend it's a serious ideology.

[Anonymous No.13554382]

>>13554358
>>13554326
>>13554338
Same here, except it was my "cool child free wine aunt" only a 16 year old could look up too.
Watching her age badly and collect cats and incessantly call the rest of the family for 'get togethers' made me realise she was just a loser.

[Anonymous No.13554397]

>>13554036
Being selfish isn't bad kek

[Anonymous No.13554417]

>>13554359
>>13554368
Why mock it? I don't get what motivation you could have.

[Anonymous No.13554424]

>>13554417
Its entertaining to watch you whine like a bitch

[Anonymous No.13554434]

>>13554417
For the lulz.

[Anonymous No.13554449]

>>13554382
My reasoning was all incel based. I still probably won't have kids but I can see the beauty in becoming a parent and startin/extending your family

[Anonymous No.13554452]

>>13553426
kys retard singel loser, good thing you wont get another generatio nlike you

[Anonymous No.13554455]

having children = slavery

[Anonymous No.13554458]

>>13554449
Fair enough, I respect that a lot more than 'muh chores = slavery' idiocy ITT.

[Anonymous No.13554462]

>>13554458
Yeah, that's just nonsense. Literal kid stuff

[Anonymous No.13554465]

>All the people arguing against antinatalism are childless incels who one day dream of having children so they can feel proud of their loser lives
LMAO

[Anonymous No.13554474]

>>13554465
What are you, then?

[Anonymous No.13554475]

There is no way to positively justify having children.

[Anonymous No.13554491]

>>13554252
WHAT THE FUCK YOU MEAN IT'S NOT SIMPLE?

[Anonymous No.13554494]

>>13554474
A childless loser that thinks hes better than the other childless losers

[Anonymous No.13554495]

>>13554474
I have a gf, we have sex every other day, neither of us want kids.

[Anonymous No.13554500]

>>13554475
Define "positively" in the context of "justify." I hope it doesn't mean "in a way that I like"

[Anonymous No.13554507]

>>13554500
I didn't mean anything particular by it; ignore the word "positively" if you wish.

[Anonymous No.13554519]

>>13554507
What constitutes a proper "justification," then? We could just say it's an emotional impulse which is valid enough grounds for pretty much every action we take in our daily lives and long term goals too

[Anonymous No.13554529]

>>13554519
Killing someone in a fit of rage is an emotional impulse. That doesn't justify it.

[Anonymous No.13554531]

Nature has no use for organisms, variations, or groups that cannot reproduce abundantly. She has a passion for quantity as prerequisite to the selection of quality; she likes large litters, and relishes the struggle that picks the surviving few; doubtless she looks on approvingly at the upstream race of a thousand sperms to fertilize one ovum. She is more interested in the species than in the individual, and makes little difference between civilization and barbarism. She does not care that a high birth rate has usually accompanied a culturally low civilization, and a low birth rate a civilization culturally high; and she (here meaning Nature as the process of birth, variation, competition, selection, and survival) sees to it that a nation with a low birth rate shall be periodically chastened by some more virile and fertile group. … If the human brood is too numerous for the food supply, Nature has three agents for restoring the balance: famine, pestilence, and war.

[Anonymous No.13554533]

>>13554529
It explains the cause though. I didn't know we were talking about lawful justification, in which case it's not illegal to have kids so idk

[Anonymous No.13554548]

>>13554465
Projection and cope.

[Anonymous No.13554554]

>>13554531
>she

[Anonymous No.13554565]

Have fun cleaning those fucking diapers, paying for a totaled car, college tuition and fixing your tiny intellectual equivalent's mistakes. Enjoy getting divorced and doing it all over again. At least you will have those beautiful memories at your nursing home, where no one will visit you.

[Anonymous No.13554569]

>>13554565
Enjoy playing your nintendo switch and masturbating to loli porn incel

[Anonymous No.13554573]

>>13554533
Laws are spooks.

[Anonymous No.13554580]

>>13554569
I most certainly will right after cumming inside your girl. :^)

[Anonymous No.13554581]

>>13554062
>"infringes people's personal freeedoms!"
lol
>making men mentally ill and pushing them to commit suicide due to lack of family and a life partner
*haha personal freedom achieved*

[Anonymous No.13554611]

>>13554495
I believe you, sweaty.

[Anonymous No.13554619]

>>13554565
>I'm a failure so everyone else will be too!

[Anonymous No.13554627]

These antinatalist threads are always a great reminder of how many psuedointellectual fedora-tier atheist (every bunch has their bad apples, for atheists it's these guys) highschool students post on here to try and jack off their egos.
>Waaaah!!! Mommy and daddy told me I should do my chores instead of sit around like a fatass loser
>Therefore, life is truly suffering and nobody should beget children. I am a genius.

[Anonymous No.13554634]

>>13554627
>Someone said something stupid earlier so I'm going to run with it for the entire thread and paint everyone else with it.
Good job.

[Anonymous No.13554651]

>>13554573
I agree but that's not point of contention

[Anonymous No.13554675]

>>13554634
Sorry, I forgot about
>D-dont have kids because creating a life, dedicating the majority of your time and money to taking care of it, and hoping for its happiness is actually just you being selfish.
>What do you mean about that logic more easily being applied in the other direction? Of course being an antinatalist isn't just selfish laziness and weak justification to change my identity from incel to volcel. Only the people I disagree with can have such shit arguments devoid of logic used against them, not me.

[Anonymous No.13554694]

>>13553755
Because stupid egoism a'la Darwin

[Anonymous No.13554706]

>>13554675
>dedicating the majority of your time and money to taking care of it, and hoping for its happiness
If only all parents actually did that.
>Of course being an antinatalist isn't just selfish laziness and weak justification to change my identity from incel to volcel.
This doesn't make sense as having sex does not mean that you will have children. For example the antinatalist philosopher Zapffe was married but died childless out of choice.

[Anonymous No.13554733]

>>13553551
Well, it's a hell of a live frens....

[Anonymous No.13554736]

>>13554706
>If only all parents actually did that.
mine did

[Anonymous No.13554748]

>>13554706
>>13554736
Mine too.

[Anonymous No.13554753]

IM NOT A SLAVE, MA

[Anonymous No.13554754]

>>13554736
>>13554748
I'm not sure what bearing that has on anything, but good for you.

[Anonymous No.13554775]

>>13554754
My experience is that of the majority, and even if it wasn't having bad parents doesn't negate the joy of existence.

[Anonymous No.13554787]

>>13554775
You are very sheltered aren't you?