/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13541258]

>tfw Christianity was always the answer in my life
I can't believe I was a cringy atheist in my late teens. Books for born-again Christians?

[Anonymous No.13541264]

Cardinal ratzingers books are the best introductory level. Then read Augustine.

[Anonymous No.13541272]

I wish I never became atheist when I was 15. It was just because I think I wanted to be contrarian to my Catholic upbringing.

[Anonymous No.13541278]

I wish I never became an atheist. I still am but it lead to pornography and fornication which brought only slavery to these vices.

[Anonymous No.13541283]

>>13541258
Unironically the bible

[Anonymous No.13541290]

>>13541258
>>13541264
>>13541272
oh fuck off this isn't even literature

but while we're here, here's some stats:
>less that 23% of philosophers called themselves theists
>less that 14% of scientists called themselves theists
>an overwhelming majority of those with below average IQs identify as religious

now, pls go larp somewhere else
>>>/pol/
>>>/r9k/
>>>trash/

[Anonymous No.13541291]

>>13541258
>cringy atheist in my late teen
Have you always been a late bloomer?

[Anonymous No.13541295]

>>13541290
How many great artists and writers were Christians, though? All the greats.

[Anonymous No.13541314]

>>13541258
Glad you took the patrician path.

[Anonymous No.13541317]

>>13541258
How to Commit Suicide

[Anonymous No.13541321]

>>13541290
>appeal to authority

[Anonymous No.13541334]

>>13541295
that's complete nonsense.
you also conveniently forgot that christianity was more tenable before modern science.
you also forgot that people were punished for atheism.
you also forgot that it was easier to be a christian before information was as easy to spread as it is now.
use your fucking brain lol.

[Anonymous No.13541350]

>>13541334
artists with notions of divinity created the greatest works of art in history. that's why art and literature sucks nowadays. the so-called intellectuals and artists are atheistic and dull.

[Anonymous No.13541359]

>>13541290
pride is a sin

[Anonymous No.13541398]

>>13541258
The End of the Affair

[Anonymous No.13541415]

>>13541258
What made you realize that you were a christian?

you guys see that? I actually asked him a question instead of going right to pushing whatever agenda I have.

[Anonymous No.13541421]

>>13541334
>you also forgot that people were punished for atheism
This is the big mistake. If you ban idiocy you make martyrs out of the idiots.

[Anonymous No.13541443]

>>13541258
>wojack Christians
what a joke religion, filled with neurotic larpers.

[Anonymous No.13541450]

>>13541443
>what a joke religion, filled with neurotic larpers.

[Anonymous No.13541454]

>>13541258

[Anonymous No.13541468]

>>13541258
The Lives of the Saints

[Anonymous No.13541499]

Silence by Endo, brothers karamazov, lord of the rings (eucatastrophe). Or, really, anything. Evaluate what is good beautiful and true. Christian lit doesn’t have a monopoly on any of those

[Anonymous No.13541508]

>>13541314

[Anonymous No.13541512]

Spiritual meaning is a nice feeling. It's a really interesting phenomenon all the millennials suddenly realizing this and diving into it, since boomer parents either weren't religious or made a terrible example of it. I wish more of them bothered to seek knowledge and evolve rather than trying to imitate their grandparents.

[Anonymous No.13541521]

>>13541508
I think this might be true

[Anonymous No.13541569]

>>13541508
This is true, but not in the way you think if you are the type of person to post a macro like this

[Anonymous No.13541603]

Do brainlets unironically believe in god here on 4chan though?

[Anonymous No.13541639]

>>13541603

No, not unironically.
But /lit/ likes to LARP real hard at being reactionaries. I guess you dont choose your fetishes.

[Anonymous No.13541675]

>>13541603
I unironically believe in God, because I have felt something I don't know how to explain otherwise. It's not a warm happy feeling like the OP but a sense of tremendous awe before something beyond my comprehension, and it infuses the world around me with glowing beauty and I feel simultaneous extreme sorrow for all the suffering in the world and love for people.

It's not an experience that happens often though, and of course Im not retarded, I understand that that can be a brain misfiring or subjective delusion or whatever, i just don't believe it is.

[Anonymous No.13541687]

>>13541258
ITT: assholes who have never read Kierkegaard especially OP

[Anonymous No.13541697]

Bros, I CANNOT handle chastity.

[Anonymous No.13541783]

>>13541603
You believe the big bang was started by a 'God particle' how is that different from believing in God?

[Anonymous No.13541801]

>>13541783
Nobody believes that, the name "God particle" is just a marketing meme. Some physicist wanted to write a book about it called "the godamned particle" but the editor wouldn"t have it because it was not a family friendly title, so they changed it to "God particle".

[Anonymous No.13541826]

>falling for the Abrahamic demiurge
The courage to take the anxiety of meaninglessness upon oneself is the boundary line up to which the courage to be can go. Beyond it is mere non-being. Within it all forms of courage are re-established in the power of the God above the God of theism. The courage to be is rooted in the God who appears when God has disappeared in the anxiety of doubt.

[Anonymous No.13541840]

>>13541783
>Actually, some particles resulted in the creation of the universe
>"Ah, so your particles are God hurr durr"
Why is this always the response?

Moreover
>"Who created god?"
>"God always existed"
>"Is it more likely God always existed, or laws of physics+some energy/particles always existed?"
>crickets

[Anonymous No.13541849]

>>13541801
That's beside the point, you still believe something was created from nothing, therefore defying Newton's laws of thermodynamics. Doesn't matter is this is called the God particle or something else.

[Anonymous No.13541880]

>>13541840
>>13541840
>Ah, so your particles are God hurr durr"
No the argument is the particles share a major characteristic with God, the creation of something from nothing.
>Who created God
God always existed, just like you're particles aways existed, or did something create the particles?

[Anonymous No.13541908]

>>13541880
You are either arguing in bad faith (ironic), or completely blind. Reread my post.

The gist is that it's far more reasonable for some fundamental laws and particles to have always existed than for an omnipotent creative force to have existed. It's also even more reasonable to think we don't have a full understanding just yet, but science's track record will provide more information in time.

You are reasonable, right anon?

Moreover I'd reckon that, if you are 'spiritual', you don't pray to pre-big-bang particles or equations?

[Anonymous No.13541940]

>>13541908
Why is it more reasonable laws and particles would suddenly change and form a universe, compared to a creator making a decision to create?
>You are reasonable right?
p-p-please agree with me

[Anonymous No.13541950]

>>13541940
>Why is it more reasonable laws and particles would suddenly change and form a universe, compared to a creator making a decision to create?
What created the creator then? You simply raise another question.

[Anonymous No.13541952]

>>13541639
>reactionaries
Chapocels aren't allowed on 4chan

[Anonymous No.13541965]

>>13541950
He's saying it is equally likely that laws +particles existed prior to the universe as a god existing before the universe

[Anonymous No.13541971]

>>13541950
What created the particles that formed the universe in your theory? Your question has the same answer, it is beyond human comprehension.

[Anonymous No.13541983]

>>13541971
>it is beyond human comprehension.
Misleading, it's beyond human's current understanding for sure. You can't say any more than that, though.
You're kinda pulling the "god of the gaps" fallacy here. Just cause there's a blank in current scientific knowledge doesn't mean you can say "that's so because god!" and call it a day.

[Anonymous No.13541985]

>>13541508
change this to "Belief in Gods" and its true. One entity couldn't have created everything alone without any help or influence. There must have been many generations of work, where each generation built on the previous, with teams (a pantheon) of creators.

Which is why polytheism is more logical.

[Anonymous No.13542013]

>>13541983
Go back and re-read the thread, my point was there is no difference between believing a particle created matter from nothing, and God creating something from nothing. You're pulling an argument from the gaps.

[Anonymous No.13542045]

>>13541258
Isn't it convenient that "the truth" was the dominant ideology around you and not the folk religions of the Amazon nations?

[Anonymous No.13542118]

>>13541985
>faith is utility
>God created the world like people raise a barn
You have to be 18 to post

[Anonymous No.13542124]

>>13542045
The dominant ideology is hedonist materialism in America

[Anonymous No.13542143]

>>13541952

He says, with no authority whatsoever. Perhaps, he believes, if he says it enough, the others will believe him?

[Anonymous No.13542165]

>>13542143
chapos are functionally not allowed on 4chan because they scurry when you post hatethink. I have debased my own soul immeasurably by posting awful racist shit here because I know it will make them leave, a compulsion I literally can't control even though I feel like a miserable asshole when I do it. They annoy me so much I can't not do it a lot of the time

[Anonymous No.13542175]

>>13542165

Paul Atreides really could have used brainworms as big as yours.

[Anonymous No.13542178]

>>13542118
my point is that god could not have become god alone. no patterns in our reality reflect that paradigm. its systems interacting with systems, actors with actors. specialization, competition, change, cycles.

but at least you believe in a god so you're better than an athiest. As your knowledge continues to blossom the reality of the Gods will make sense to you.

[Anonymous No.13542294]

Believing in the existence of something else is reasonable.

Being part of a religion isn't.

[Anonymous No.13542296]

>>13541258
I recommend you a book titled you're a fucking incel autistic American manchild bitch who thinks adopting a desert religion will save "the white race" or some stupid bullshit you saw on pol you fucking impressionable piece of fat shit KYS LARPer

[Anonymous No.13542557]

>>13541258
>Catholic
I'm Orthodox

[Anonymous No.13542591]

>>13541290
What's wrong with being part of that 23%?
>You're supposed to be identical parts!!

[Anonymous No.13542603]

My atheism ended abruptly as I was forced to learn of the memetic organisms and understood that there are millions of gods even if our minimalism and reductionism were correct.

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[Anonymous No.13542770]

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[Anonymous No.13542777]

>>13541295

lol, look at this retarded fedora. Pro tip: all scientists, philosophers today are effeminate KEKS. who cares what they say

[Anonymous No.13543311]

>>13542178
Pantheism is worshiping aspects and anthropomorphized phenomena whereas Christianity is reverence of a single God.

Jesus would also not have been Divine had he stumbled, ergo Jesus in his full subservience to God is divine, divinity resting in coherence with Gods intentions, outlined as they pertain to people in the Scriptures.

''Multiple Gods'' is just incomprehension and compartmentalization of all of the processes we observe, but factually they work in parallel and tandem with eachother like chords in the Keys of a musical piece.

[Anonymous No.13543373]

>>13541258
quite literally: holy cringe