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[Anonymous No.13520790]

What are some anti-Semitic authors or philosophers?

[Anonymous No.13520862]

Bump

[Anonymous No.13520867]

The Bible

[Anonymous No.13520868]

>>13520790
Heidegger was a Nazi

[Anonymous No.13520869]

Luther

[Anonymous No.13520876]

>>13520790
every single white male author before 1900 (with the exception of nietzsche)

[Anonymous No.13520878]

>>13520790
Many of them, but often only antisemitic in a loose sense. For real antisemites (people whose antisemitism critically informed their writings) see:
>Céline
>Drumont
>Bloy
>Bernanos
>Luther

[Anonymous No.13520888]

>>13520790
William Luther Pierce

[Anonymous No.13520891]

>>13520878
Actually I shouldn't have put Bloy there, he's more philosemitic than antisemitic, but his stance on Jews is complex and central to his works.

>>13520876
Meh. This is an overblown meme becaus we're vastly more sensitive about it than people used to be. Not only there were philosemitic writers (see Péguy) and anti-antisemitic writers (like Nietzsche as anon said) but the tradition of dialogue between Jewish culture and the larger culture goes back to Antiquity. In the heydey of Neoplatonism Judaism was considered by some philosophers a venerable religion with good insights. Likewise there was a strong culture of intellectual exchange between non-Jewish Enlightenment thinkers and their Jewish counterparts.

[Anonymous No.13520900]

>>13520868
t. has never read Heidegger
He was not you god damn retard

[Anonymous No.13520901]

>>13520888
If there is one thing more cringey than muh feels it's got to be muh evolutionary feels. People spiritually subservient to a descriptive theory of biological change can only be cucks in disguise.

[Anonymous No.13520925]

>>13520790
E Michael Jones

[Anonymous No.13520926]

In Oliver Twist, Charles Dickens portrays the Jews as having a network of criminality - without which Oliver would not have been found by Nancy after he had insinuated himself with his new companions.

[Anonymous No.13520966]

>>13520901
I don't think that you understand what the word cuck means anon.

[Anonymous No.13520992]

>>13520790
why do cute girls have small tits or ugly tits? is it because of evolution where men provide for them thanks to their cuteness and the ugly girls have to have big tits to given an easy life free of charge?

[Anonymous No.13520997]

>>13520790
most of them

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>>13520992
those tits are beautiful fuck you

[Anonymous No.13521002]

Dostoevsky, Celine, Heidegger, Voltaire

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Hegel
Hervé Ryssen
St John Chrysostome
St Thomas Aquinas
St Louis the IXth (Joinville)

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Henry Ford

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Weininger

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Most

[Anonymous No.13521104]

>>13520992
It's very much possible to have both

[Anonymous No.13521130]

>>13520790
Louis Ferdinand Céline
The best french antisemitic author

[Anonymous No.13521165]

roald dahl, Ezra Pound, Lovecraft

[Anonymous No.13521171]

>>13521130
Christ, he was a miserable fuck

[Anonymous No.13521175]

>>13520926
yes, but Dickens makes up for his anti-Semitism in this book by creating the character of Riah in Our Mutual Friend. Can anti-semitism be found in Dickens' books? absolutely. was Dickens anti-semitic? not towards the end of his life, it appears.

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>>13521104
pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.13521218]

>>13521175
>not towards the end of his life, it appears.

because he literally became beholden to a jewish moneylender

[Anonymous No.13521352]

>>13520900
He was not a dumb anti-semetic but he wrote about World Jewery in the Black Notebooks and it’s not hard to see that he subscribed to idea of the misguided modernity due to a degenerate instrumentalization (money) and the metaphysical offcourse in regard to the ideas of Being starting from Judaism

[Anonymous No.13521471]

>>13520790
Varg Vikernes

there you go bud

[Anonymous No.13521588]

>>13520900
neo-liberal cope

his philosophy amounts to an endorsement of national socialism, even if its not pro-racial materialism...heidegger seeks to eradicate (de-strukt) judaism from philosophy and from german culture

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[Anonymous No.13521679]

>>13520790
Hitler was reasonably antisemitic

[Anonymous No.13521681]

Most of them honestly, since most Western thinkers before the mid-twentieth century thought of the Jews as a self-serving superfluous foreign element in Western societies at best. Any philosopher with an organic social philosophy didn't really have a place for them in it.

At best they're an alien element that can be tolerated. At worst they're an alien element that reverse-engineers whatever society it's part of to make it more comfortable for themselves. And most people on a personal and cultural level just didn't like Jews.

[Anonymous No.13521690]

>>13520876
>with the exception of nietzsche
Nietzsche would be considered an antisemite by most standards. While he wasn't racist he absolutely did hate Jewish culture, even if not Jews themselves. He was very explicit about his hatred of Jewish culture. Letting him stand out as some kind of anti-antisemite just doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

[Anonymous No.13521715]

>>13521104
dat a man bae

[Anonymous No.13521774]

>>13521649
It's actually true

[Anonymous No.13522044]

>>13520901
Dilate

[Anonymous No.13522365]

>>13520878
None of these were philosophers you dumb poltard

And Bloy was a philosemitic Catholic who attacked antisemites like the author of the Jewish france pamphlet.

[Anonymous No.13522381]

>>13521039
St John and St Thomas, the worshippers of the Jewish God Yahweh the Father of The Jewish Son of God Who with YHWH -the God of Israel and of the seed of Abraham- lives in the Unity of the Ruacḥ Qodshekha (the Holy Spirit). Yes, truly antisemites.

[Anonymous No.13522405]

>>13521649
The Jews recognize such a phenomenon:
>The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands

[Anonymous No.13522430]

>>13522381
>Yes, truly antisemites.
A lot of our disagreement can be traced to faulty terminology and definitions. Anti-Semite is likely not even the proper term for this discussion, the Jews being only part of the Semitic population.

[Anonymous No.13522616]

>>13522365
>And Bloy was a philosemitic Catholic

The absolute state of frogs today...

Every text Bloy has written contains in it anti-semitism, but he also dislikes vulgar materialist anti-semitism, and the anti-semitism of people who still want to make money. When Bloy attacks Drumont it's LITERALLY to call him a Rothschild and then say he has nothing else to say about him.

"Anyone who is not instinctively disgusted by the sight of the synagogue is unworthy of a dog's respect." - Leon Bloy, Salvation Through the Jews

Yeah...he's really attacking those anti-semites alright.

[Anonymous No.13522633]

>>13520790
Lovecraft

[Anonymous No.13522645]

>>13520888

[Anonymous No.13522647]

>>13520900
> Imagine not knowing about The Black Notebooks

[Anonymous No.13522653]

>>13521649
This is actually true though.

[Anonymous No.13523362]

>>13522616
That book literally starts with a dedicatory to the "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" He disliked Jews because they don't believe in Christ, that's his "Antisemitism". He even complains about Antisemitic priests because in the Mass we're sons of Abraham. Stop lurking pol and reread it...

[Anonymous No.13523564]

>>13521130
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Hitler’s been replaced
With a look-alike jew

[Anonymous No.13523580]

>>13520790
>What
I assume you used "what" instead of "who" as if to say anti-Semites are inhuman. I like it.

[Anonymous No.13523623]

>>13521175
>Dickens makes up for his anti-Semitism
implying its bad

[Anonymous No.13523630]

>>13520790
Voltaire

[Anonymous No.13523635]

>>13521690
>. He was very explicit about his hatred of Jewish culture

Can you give some pointers?

[Anonymous No.13523661]

Damn, all this people saying Celine.

I literally just started Journey today. Had no idea. Well, I guess that'll be something to keep an eye out for.

I had also heard the same about Dostoyevsky and after reading most of his novels and short works I found it subtle at best.

[Anonymous No.13523664]

>>13520790
>anti-Semitic
No such thing.

[Anonymous No.13523670]

>>13523635
He correctly stated that Slave Morality originated with The Jews™

[Anonymous No.13523993]

>>13521104
i hope this fatass can at least cook

[Anonymous No.13524106]

>>13520891
Nietschze was notorious for being a philosemite

[Anonymous No.13524182]

>>13524106
Then explain >>13523670

[Anonymous No.13524293]

>>13524182
Slave morality is the morality of slaves. As in slaves produce it as a result of their slavery, not that they become slaves because they hold it prior to their slavery. It is the code of behaviour that slaves adopt to survive. People forget that Nietzsche was not a fan of Master Morality either as it is contingent on slaves and therefore lacks a true independence - this is sort of the whole point of the Übermensch, he transcends the Master-Slave dichotomy and generates value within himself rather than deriving it from transient, inherited, social positions

Nietzsche admired the Jews for their intelligence and refusal to be written out of history despite multiple attempts to achieve this. However, he saw the attendant culture generated by the Jews as a product of their struggle to survive necessarily a reflection of a people brought low. Not something to aspire to. Nietzsche admired the health, beauty, physical prowess lionised by of those living with Master Morality, considered those things as desirable as they said "Yes" to the world rather than the Jewish and, by way of inheritance, the Christian (the apotheosis of Jewishness) "No".

I believe somewhere in his letters he writes about a coming superior race born of the intermingling of Jewish and German Military and Aristocratic blood.
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[Anonymous No.13524298]

>>13520790
I've heard reading the Talmud turns people anti-semitic.

[Anonymous No.13524302]

>>13524293

Makes sense, but has he written about this directly in any book?

[Anonymous No.13524327]

>>13524302
On The Genealogy of Morals introduces the Master/Slave dichotomy and the first part includes his unabashed critique of Jewish morality.
Zarathustra is where he introduces the Ubermensch, and The Antichrist you can guess the contents from the title.

The stuff about the intermingling of Germanic and Jewish blood is, I am certain from one of his many letters and not a book, but I can't remember where or bring it up so take it with a grain of salt until you can confirm for yourself.

[Anonymous No.13524338]

>>13520891
>Neoplatonism Judaism was considered by some philosophers a venerable religion with good insights.
lol while they were being despised for being the “money changers”

[Anonymous No.13524349]

>>13520925
Underrated

[Anonymous No.13524350]

>>13523661
From Crime and Punishment
>He almost smiled at this new thought and turned into the street where there was the big house with the tower. At the great closed gates of the house, a little man stood with his shoulder leaning against them, wrapped in a grey soldier’s coat, with a copper Achilles helmet on his head. He cast a drowsy and indifferent glance at Svidrigaïlov. His face wore that perpetual look of peevish dejection, which is so sourly printed on all faces of Jewish race without exception. They both, Svidrigaïlov and Achilles, stared at each other for a few minutes without speaking. At last it struck Achilles as irregular for a man not drunk to be standing three steps from him, staring and not saying a word.

[Anonymous No.13524393]

>>13524302

in The Antichrist, page 79:
>The Jews are the most remarkable people in the history of the world, for when they were confronted with the question, to be or not to be, they chose, with perfectly unearthly deliberation, to be at any price: this price involved a radical falsification of all nature, of all naturalness, of all reality, of the whole inner world,
as well as of the outer. They put themselves against all those conditions under which, hitherto, a people had been able to live, or had even been permitted to live; out of themselves they evolved an idea which stood in direct opposition to natural conditions—one by one they distorted religion, civilization, morality, history and psychology until each became a contradiction of its natural significance. We meet with the same phenomenon later on, in an incalculably exaggerated form, but only as a copy: the Christian church, put beside the “people of God,” shows a complete lack of any claim to originality. Precisely for this reason the Jews are the most fateful people in the history of the world: their influence has so falsified the reasoning of mankind in this matter that today the Christian can cherish anti-Semitism without realizing that it is no more than the final consequence of Judaism.

(there's better translations out there. Gutenberg kinda sucks)

[Anonymous No.13524433]

>>13524293
>>13524393
None of this seems positive to me. Maybe I’m just not smart enough to understand it, but it seems to me like he points out that Jews, as a whole, are a subversive people. That sounds like an awfully antisemitic thing to say.

[Anonymous No.13524486]

>>13521104
Not the greatest example, but you are very right. I think about this beautiful girl with large breasts almost on a daily basis. She is probably the dumbest person I've ever met though

[Anonymous No.13524536]

>>13520888
>ripping off of martin luther
oof

[Anonymous No.13524548]

oscar wilde

[Anonymous No.13524626]

>>13524433
that was the general consensus around the world until the jews gained power after the second world war and saying these things became illegal to say proving the people right.

[Anonymous No.13524643]

>>13524626
Prove that this was the general consensus.

[Anonymous No.13524647]

Henry Ford

[Anonymous No.13524703]

>>13524643
The various expulsions and pogroms across the European and Arab worlds

[Anonymous No.13524711]

>>13524643
read more books brainlet

[Anonymous No.13524737]

>>13524703
>>13524711
I am sorry but did you just try to generalise multiple different events, from history in to some unifying principle? A very bold claim indeed. It would be a shame if you could not substantiate it, perhaps with empirical evidence that shows that the world held a singular consensus on Jews.

[Anonymous No.13524741]

>>13521588
i sincerely wish you don't procreate

[Anonymous No.13524756]

>>13524433
>Jews, as a whole, are a subversive people
it’s very possible. Let’s not rule out that possibility.

[Anonymous No.13524758]

>>13524741
The left is kinda outmatched by the right when it comes to procreating just saying

[Anonymous No.13524771]

>>13524758
Only the white Left. The blacks are doing just fine, even with their recreational abortions.

[Anonymous No.13524774]

>>13524771
American blacks are not doing fine at all, if you mean Africans that's a very different matter, and it barely makes sense to call NIgerians the left in our terms.

[Anonymous No.13524779]

>>13524758
Dude i don't care how you lean...left or right or far-left or far-right or centre-left or center-right or whatever

just never don't let your penis lean into a woman's vagina for humanity's sake

[Anonymous No.13524824]

>>13524779
Fedora: The Post

[Anonymous No.13524826]

>>13520790
All the good ones.

[Anonymous No.13524844]

>>13524774
We need an African genocide RIGHT NOW

[Anonymous No.13524860]

>>13524737
It’s just interesting how radically different cultures from all different kinds of religious backgrounds including Catholicism, Islam and Orthodox Christianity all somehow managed to arrive at the same conclusion at one point or another in terms of how to deal with a particular ethnoreligious minority group.

[Anonymous No.13524871]

>>13524844
I would literally never call for genocide, but the situation in Africa is probably not tenable, they depend too much on foreign aid that is simply not going to exist in the coming century.

I think colonialism was deeply, deeply wrong, as was slavery, and those people should just have been left alone.

[Anonymous No.13524884]

>>13524871
I think it’s more humane to use the Band-Aid method and just get it over with than it is to slowly let an entire continent bleed out for decades.

[Anonymous No.13524885]

>>13524860
It is very interesting indeed, but sadly beside the point. You have yet to prove your assertion that there was a universal consensus regarding the Jews throughout the world. .

[Anonymous No.13524944]

>>13524885
I mean, there’s countless examples of antisemitic artwork from the Middle Ages all the way up until now. Sure, this might’ve been a “lone wolf” artist who just happened to dislike Jews, but I think he was probably just reflecting a fairly common sentiment back to his community.

[Anonymous No.13524948]

>>13524884
No I literally can under no circumstances ever condone genocide. So many people have gone down that road thinking it was the holy thing to do when it was not, and my own understanding of the world is bullshit and doesn't deserve to have those kinds of mighty indictments.

I am racist and admit it, I don't think Africans can ever really function in the way the West defines functioning, but that doesn't entail genocide. I have no idea what the correct path forward is, maybe some neocolonialism, but whenever you call for mass murder check yourself for a second and realize you have already fallen to the devil. Those are living people with family, friends, dreams, and entire worlds that belong to them, to try to tear them out of existence because your shallow thoughts of what would be better in the immensely complex reality we live in tell you to do so, is beyond any arrogance even I have ever felt.

What if you're wrong? What if they really are just like us and can bring their countries to better states? Are you so sure based on the paltry historical and scientific evidence we have? Yes it points one way, but would you really spill the blood of billions based on that kind of evidence?

I wouldn't, not until I saw some undeniable threat to our own, which they don't pose now at all, only the people in our own states who want to enact certain policies pose that threat. I don't condone killing them either, but there you would at least have an argument.

Even if you're right, you don't actually know you're right, you just want to be right, and so you ruin your soul to indulge that impulse to extreme violence. You don't know what will happen in Africa, none of us do, and to just wantonly suggest killing people who have largely done nothing wrong is beyond the pale.

You know this, it is in your heart, dont give yourself over to hatred so much that you forget what you are, I know it seems justified but it never is.

[Anonymous No.13524962]

Not anti-Semitic but deeply anti-Judaic, and an actually wonderful author.

[Anonymous No.13524973]

>>13523635
He repeatedly shits on their culture for being hateful and petty

[Anonymous No.13524982]

>>13524393
That's not praise, that's ambivalent at best

[Anonymous No.13524989]

>>13524948
Your proposed “solution” of cutting off foreign aid results in the same final outcome over the course of a longer timeline. Sub-Saharan Africa is a region so devoid of ambition and ingenuity that they literally never built anything of value until the arrival of the white man. They would still be shitting in the bush and wiping their ass with their non-dominant hand if it weren’t for... oh wait, they still do that.

[Anonymous No.13525052]

>>13524989
I have yet to see a trolley problem for this application.

[Anonymous No.13525072]

>>13524962
I see your Simone Weil and raise you one Israel Shamir.

[Anonymous No.13525080]

>>13525052
>Path 1
Africa’s current population on a track roughly 100m in length
>Path 2
Africa’s current population + future population on a track 100km in length

[Anonymous No.13525086]

>>13520790
Solzhenitsyn

[Anonymous No.13525096]

>>13520790
Jesus of Nazareth
Martin Luther
The Vatican

[Anonymous No.13525162]

>>13525086
How much of this can be seen in The Solzhenitsyn Reader? I cannot read Russian and I do not think 200 Years was ever published in English.

[Anonymous No.13525172]

>>13520790
frege
>>13520867
based

[Anonymous No.13525250]

>>13524860
With their own unique brand of humanity, they have somehow managed to endear themselves to all the peoples of the world, anon.

[Anonymous No.13525380]

>>13520867
Literally Semitic.

[Anonymous No.13525387]

>>13525380
Outlawing usury is pretty antisemitic, like how outlawing murder and stealing is racist against blacks

[Anonymous No.13525417]

>>13525387
Wtf are you on about. Usury is forbidden in the Tanakh between Jews but permitted for goyim. It’s complicafed only after the fact Christians have inherited the fork off religion of the people they also believe they’re against

[Anonymous No.13525425]

>>13525417
>rules for thee not for me
Judaism is truly a heinous religion

[Anonymous No.13525537]

>>13525417
This post is so disconcordant that I have trouble telling whether or not it is bait.

[Anonymous No.13525564]

>>13523670
Lmao, have you actually read Nietzsche? Slave morality/Master morality are descriptive terms and not normative ones

[Anonymous No.13525745]

>>13524350
I stand by what I said. That's quite mild unless you're very sensitive about the issue. Especially if that's the most offensive example you can find in his when or body of work.

[Anonymous No.13525811]

>>13525745
*"Whole", not "when of"

[Anonymous No.13526082]

>>13521774
>>13522653
were there ever any evidence of this besides Hollywood being full of jews?

[Anonymous No.13526383]

>>13522645
cringepilled

[Anonymous No.13526486]

>>13526082
>Implying media and entertainment don't play a large role in molding collective consciousness