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*solves anxiety*

>> No.13513372

>you jes gotta believe!

>> No.13513392

>>13513372
what's more absurd, belief in anything or belief in nothing?

>> No.13513625

>>13513372
Fuck off

>> No.13513766

>>13513289
just have faith bro

>> No.13513858

>>13513766
Who is faith and where do I find her?

>PROTIP: you met her an hour ago. Name was Kim. Oooh I like the chubby Asian quim!

>> No.13514867

>>13513392
belief can be right or wrong
facts are always right

>> No.13514893

>>13514867
Facts are just beliefs that are right. What point are you trying to make

>> No.13514915

>>13514867
How do you know that?

>> No.13514919

>>13514867
Well you can’t fact check Kierkegaard until after death

>> No.13514923

>>13513372
>>13513766
Did you even read his books? You don't have to be religious at all, that was just his personal solution

>> No.13514940

>>13513372
>>13513858


>decide to visit /lit/ for the first time in a long time
>two trip fags in very first thread

Lol fucking faggots

>> No.13514948

>>13514940
rent free,
Slave morality,
etc

>> No.13515007

>>13514867
one wants to be careful of the alleged objectivity and relevance of facts.
an american professor of philosophy was once approached by a researcher with the question 'how many pages of philosophy do your students read a semester?'
'well,' he replied 'i could check that for you. but isn't there a difference between ten pages from a popular handbook and ten pages of aristotle in the original?'
'that's a matter of opinion. the number of pages is a matter of fact.'

>> No.13515049

>>13514893
you can reach ataraxia from suspension of judgement rather than adopting a dogma

>> No.13515059

>>13514867
there is no truth

>> No.13515071

>>13514923
I “solved anxiety” with Epicureanism

>> No.13515080

>>13515071
why don't you stop pushing your filthy epicureanism on people eh

>> No.13515110

>>13515080
Why don’t you stop pushing your degenerate Christianity on us. We just want to read books!

>> No.13515130

>>13515110
dilate

>> No.13515136

>>13514867
Define fact

>> No.13515152

>>13515059
then what you are saying is false and therefore truth exists

>> No.13515169

>>13515136
something that happens

>> No.13515198

Kierkegaard's treatment of anxiety has little to do with his Christianity; he says it's the call to action.

>> No.13515200

>>13515169
And what if that determination of what happens is untrue? Miasma theory was a fact 500-600 years ago. But that is deemed untrue and dismissed by all sources.

>> No.13515240

>>13515136
Define "define"

>> No.13515252
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>>13514867
Guess some people never learn, huh?

>> No.13515253

>>13515071
And flicking your bean

>> No.13515265
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>>13515240

>> No.13515267 [DELETED] 

Who do I need to read to understand Kierkegaard? I've had a copy of Fear and Trembling/Repetition sitting on my shelf for about 5 years. Is it worth the read for an agnostic?

>> No.13515270

Just finished Fear and Trembling -- absolutely loved it.

Which book do I read next?

>> No.13515271

>>13515253
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
GOTEM

>> No.13515274

>>13513372
based

>> No.13515275 [DELETED] 

>>13515253
This, Butterfly is a cumbrain (beanbrain)

>> No.13515279

>>13515267
It definitely is worth a read.

>>13515270
If you want more Kierkegaard, go for Either/Or.

>> No.13515288

>>13515007
woah

>> No.13515300

>>13515267
Repetition is brilliant

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13515307

>>13513289

>> No.13515364

>>13515110
it's necessary to believe in something you overfed inquitous animal

>> No.13515439

Shakespeare/ Edgar Allen Poe
Robert Anton Wilson
Joseph Campbell
Way of peaceful warrior
Tao teh ching
Tao of pooh
The diceman
Ishmael
Alchemist
The four agreement
Celestine prophecy
Joshua
Das energi

>> No.13515456

>>13515307
Has anyone here actually read any RD Laing? The anti-psychiatry movement has always been of interest to me, but I've never read any of his stuff.

>> No.13515514

>>13515364
its not

>> No.13515535

>>13513858
I'm actually dating a chubby Asian named Kim. It's a good time.

>> No.13515580

>>13515514
is so

>> No.13515593

Is a normal person experiencing anxiety the same thing as when someone 'has anxiety'? How are they different and is it truly a mental illness?

>> No.13515615

>>13515593
probably it's like someone coughing and someone having a cough

>> No.13515628

>>13515580
neo-pyrrhonists disagree

>> No.13515662

>>13515593
Normal anxiety is caused by fear/nervous ess about a thing
Anxiety disorder causes one to have anxiety even without the thing, also making the anxiety even worse when there is a thing to be anxious about

>> No.13515763
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>>13515071
We get it, you want to live in a commune of lesbians

>> No.13515896

>>13515662
Makes sense, thanks

>> No.13516177

>>13515628
no. really?

>> No.13516196

This board is fucking embarrassing.

>> No.13516206

>>13513372
True. Consider placebo.
Consider ironic placebo.

>> No.13516208 [DELETED] 

>>13516196
Are you an atheistcel or a religicel?

>> No.13516570

>>13515662
wrong
"For Kierkegaard, anxiety/dread/angst is unfocused fear. Kierkegaard uses the example of a man standing on the edge of a tall building or cliff. When the man looks over the edge, he experiences a focused fear of falling, but at the same time, the man feels a terrifying impulse to throw himself intentionally off the edge. That experience is anxiety or dread because of our complete freedom to choose to either throw oneself off or to stay put. The mere fact that one has the possibility and freedom to do something, even the most terrifying of possibilities, triggers immense feelings of dread. Kierkegaard called this our "dizziness of freedom.""

>> No.13516707

>>13515253
Read Epicurus

>>13515364
What you’re saying is that it’s necessary to believe in lies. It’s not something you should construct your life around. It’s dangerous actually.
Beliefs are a bridge to Knowing. Knowing is far more necessary.

>>13515763
Cute. More? Lovely shot too. Love clouds.

>>13516196
It used to be pretty wonderful. Back when it was slow, lots of name users and janitors with enough power and/or care to weed out the reactionary trad shits. It will never be the same, I know.

>> No.13516794

>>13516707
Imagine being this stupid

>> No.13516806

>>13516794
Gtfo furry

>> No.13516839

>>13516570
>the religicel can't accept his freedom
what else is new

>> No.13516851

>>13516839
way to out yourself as having never read Kierkegaard

>> No.13516880

>>13515763
>We get it, you want to live in a commune of lesbians
ngl I would definitely love that.

>> No.13516916

How can he help me get over the anxiety I feel whenever I see an ash tree, or don't where I should. I can't stop worrying about the emerald ash borer.

>> No.13516939

>>13516707
>It used to be pretty wonderful
oh yeah when was that, 1982? i remember looking when i was underage & the first thing i saw was a suicide note thread (second thing was your trip)

>> No.13516952

>>13516851
>Yeah dude I totally accept my freedom!
>*cries for days on end about nothing invigorating him*
>*cries about wasting his life*
>*cries that he has not been faithful to god*
>*fantasizes about girl for weeks, hates himself for it*
Way to out yourself as to having never read his journal.

>> No.13516959

>>13513372
Based Butts

>> No.13516986

>>13516707
the pursuit of knowing (sorry, Knowing) produces no abnormal psychosomatic effect in its devotees. it dulls the mind; separates man more and more from his natural context in wild nature; and so far enthrones intellect as the greatest of all human attributes as to remove all checks on its irresponsible functioning.

someone - i've forgotten who - called man a religious animal, and religious he must continue to be, because of the uncontrollable imaginative processes which take over the human mind when its crucial function is in abeyance.

>> No.13517525 [DELETED] 

*solves anxiety*

And I didn't have to read even a single book by a Christcuck too.

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13517531

*solves anxiety*

And I didn't have to read even a single book by a Christcuck too.

>> No.13517592

>>13517531
This is your brain on materialism

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>>13517531
>I'm addicted to pills
>This is a good thing

>> No.13517617

>>13513289
How?

>> No.13517621

>>13517617
>you jes gotta believe!

>> No.13517622

>>13517602
.... why not? You're just assuming that anxiety pills are bad.

>> No.13517637

>>13514867
Facts are human artifacts.

>> No.13517686

>>13515110

You don't read. It's obvious. You just come here to get attention from people most normal people wouldn't talk to even if you paid them. For reasons no one understands, you spend your free time desperately trying to make everyone here hate you. You don't start threads and you never add anything of value to any thread you are a part of. You just try to piss people off in as few words a possible. You are, without any doubt, one of the most pathetic people on this entire site. Remember, you're here forever Butterfly.

>> No.13517833

>>13515049
based Pyrrhonist

>> No.13517834

>>13517686
This

>> No.13517843

>>13517602
I’d rather be addicted to pills than to Christ. At least my mind is still free from the chains of Christianity.

>> No.13517848

>>13517843
chains are chains

>> No.13517861

>>13517848
I can quit any time I want to.

>> No.13517862

>>13517843
Christianity doesn't alter the way your brain functions to make you docile and conforming
>>13517861
I doubt that.

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>>13517862
>Christianity doesn't alter the way your brain functions to make you docile and conforming
LMAO nigga you can’t be for real rn

>> No.13517919

>>13517881
Objectively, no. Every system is dependent on certain axioms to remain internally consistent. Accepting these axioms doesn't make you a slave to anything. Christians are free to act in any manner, even if it is in contradiction of Christianity itself.
From the standpoint of a true skeptic, axioms based upon empirical data are not inherently more truthful than axioms based upon faith. Chances are you've been taught about certain historical events or scientific theories in a manner you have not questioned or cast in to doubt, which would make you more "docile and conforming" in this regard than a Christian who came to the faith only after a long period of doubt and study.

>> No.13517926

>>13513372
Fuck off

>> No.13517929

>>13517919
>ackshually being skeptical makes you a conformist
solid hot take from a christcuck. further proof that belief in Jesus requires a self-lobotomy.

>> No.13517994

>>13517621
No one asked you buttercunt

>> No.13518000

>>13517929
Just be a skeptic absolutist then. If you reject all true statements (type 2 error) your level of confidence will be near 100%.

>> No.13518013

>>13517929
buzzwords and memes aren't a proper counter-argument
Christians don't "conform" to anything, at least no more so than Confucians or Aristotelians do to their respective systems. The many differing branches and denominations of Christianity should be proof of that itself.
I'll remind you that we're in a Kierkegaard thread, and since you appear to be completely ignorant of him, his interpretation of Christianity is absolutely that of an individualistic and freeing faith that radically rejects the values and ethics of the world.
The Christian takes the leap of faith and throws himself willingly into uncertainty, suffering and dread. Atheist pill-poppers such as yourself are frightened by true non-conformity with the world. You shame men such as Abraham and Jesus Christ so that you may sleep more soundly at night.

>> No.13518022

>>13518013
have you considered that he *might* not actually take pills and successfully trolled you for shits and giggles?

>> No.13518051

>>13518022
Thank god not everyone thinks like you, otherwise this board would have no decent discussions. Sure, maybe the guy he is responding to is baiting, but what does that matter? Eventually he'll stumble upon a serious poster and have a normal conversation with no baiting.

>> No.13518075

>>13518022
yes, but being the serious and intelligent Christian debating the idiot looks quite good doesn't it? I don't see what I have to lose when someone acts the strawman for you.

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>>13513372

>> No.13518114

>>13518089
How will he ever recover?

>> No.13518292

>>13517602
>suffer from panic attacks and intrusive thoughts about sticking sharp objects in my eyes
>take zoloft
>all my symptoms go away and i'm free to live my life again
>LMAO SLAVE, JUS BELIEVE IN GOD YOU ADDICT

>> No.13518301

>>13518114
>takes off trip

>> No.13518303 [DELETED] 

>>13518292
Go pop another pill, you junkie. It sounds like you're having another panic attack from reading a 9-word post.

>> No.13518442

>>13518075
So you like acting for a make believe god and bloody sick man all to virtue signal? Got it.

>> No.13518458

>>13516939
We have to go back farther. Back before I was forced to take a trip.

>>13516986
Abnormal? This is supposed to make psychotic episodes of religious fervor sound appealing? The effects of learning things may not lead one to acts of terrorism and “honor killings, but they sure do satisfy people on a number of other levels.

>>13517592
Your brain is material

>>13517834
Why do you little toadies shadow these doofus and cheerlead their comments that are always 100% wrong? Same poster?

>>13517994
That wasn’t me. I was working
>Buttered cunt
Strangely I’m craving squash and zucchini smothered in butter now.

>> No.13518501 [DELETED] 

>>13518458
Why does this post smell of dilatory fluid? Butterfly, you buffoon, discard your fedora and seek the good lord!

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>>13518458

>> No.13518512

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0hVaeuVcyNd

:3

>> No.13518527 [DELETED] 

>>13518512
Butterfly is a 50 year-old menopausal lesbian tranny. You should be saying "she (male)"

>> No.13518535

>>13518089
>>13518504
What’s this, fascist posters coming to defend Kierkegaard’s honor?
Scared Boys strike again.

>>13518501
I sought, and discovered that it was a fiction designed to control the foolish masses the whole time.

>>13518527
Terrible forced meme. I am not that old yet, not menopausal yet.
And obviously trannies cant get menopausal, just fuck off

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>>13518535

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>>13518512

>> No.13518571

>>13518442
As far as anyone here knows I'm just another anonymous poster. I don't gain anything for myself. Some other user may benefit from this exchange, however.

>> No.13518674

>>13515270
Sickness Unto Death

>> No.13518742

>>13516839
>accept his freedom

Because freedom from moral restraints is freedom right? I guess we can't be free unless we have the freedom to commit sodomy by your logic right? Remember, a man is a slave to however many vices he has. If you want to pursue fleeting pleasure than go ahead, but to imply that is "freedom" and not a dead-end trap is just deceiving yourself.

>> No.13518751 [DELETED] 

>>13518742
>moral restraints
>vices
Spooks

>> No.13518900

>>13518535
Whenever I see this moth thing I just skip to the next post cause I know it's gonna be something entirely vapid with the sole purpose of getting attention lmao

>> No.13518902 [DELETED] 

>>13518900
This

>> No.13518933

>>13518900
Dubs of basedness

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>>13518458
>That wasn’t me. I was working
Do you know how attributed quotes work, honey?

>> No.13518969

>>13513392
it is absurd to believe that there is no purpose to the universe.
it is absurd to believe that your limited experience in 1x10^-1000 % of spacetime grants you any modicum of understanding.

be open to ideas, but don't give them all equal weight. just because it could be true doesn't mean you should act as if it is.

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>>13518512
>spokenword love letter
yikes

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>>13518900
>see this moth thing
you can auto hide posts with filters

>> No.13519296

>>13518458
philosophy (as stated by lucretius) not only rids man of religious terrors, but also banishes that sense of illumination which from time to time lightens the heart.
it's a pity some people don't pause to consider myth & magic dispassionately.

>> No.13519908

>>13518571
Hmmm... Kierkegaard... or Xanax? Kierkegaard... or Xanax? Xanax... or Kierkegaard?

I think I will go with Kierkegaard. Thank you! :3

>> No.13520324

>>13519296
I love a good fiction. Thank you for the civil reply.

>> No.13520685

>>13518969
didn't camus say something about that

>>13520324
man really is unique though & if we're capable of unselfishly loving one another, we are absolutely alone as a species. the divination of christ is just a way of saying that. that's why it's true, it dramatises the idea that man is divine, you horrid epicurean.

>> No.13520740

>>13520324
Whenever I see this moth thing I just skip to the next post cause I know it's gonna be something entirely vapid with the sole purpose of getting attention lmao

>> No.13521009

>>13518458
what conditions force you into taking a trip? what possible reason could there be to ensure that other posters know who's behind your posts?

>> No.13521029

>>13519908
Not me

>> No.13521033 [DELETED] 

>>13520740
This rofl

>> No.13521085

>>13521009
she actually does just want the abuse

>> No.13521098 [DELETED] 

>>13521085
This, I don't want to give her too much attention but she is seriously mentally ill. She's a middle-aged lesbian who has been compulsively attention whoring on /lit/ for years. She is very fucked up.

>> No.13521107

>>13521098
don't judge, anon

>> No.13521143 [DELETED] 

>>13521107
I want her to read my post and seek help.

>> No.13521166

>>13521143
course you do

>> No.13521225 [DELETED] 

>>13521166
If she doesn't, she could end up killing herself.

>> No.13521237

>>13513372
>>13515071
>>13515110
>>13516707
>>13516806
>>13517621
>>13518535
>>13520324
Can we just kill butterfly?
>>13518512
BASED.

>> No.13521254

>>13518512
I can tell you're frighteningly intelligent by your voice alone.

>> No.13521305 [DELETED] 

>>13518512
I love your passion.

>> No.13521420
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>> No.13521475

>>13521254
>>13521305
is this samefagging? or is it just ironic or something
no one would really say that

>> No.13521482

>>13521475
>https://vocaroo.com/i/s0hVaeuVcyNd
Hey anon you can't speak for all of us, I might say that. You don't know me.

>> No.13521497

>>13521482
Shit I still had it highlighted.
sage

>> No.13521500

>>13521482
no you wouldn't

>> No.13521508 [DELETED] 

>>13521475
Oh look, another seething Marxist crawling out of the woodwork.

>> No.13521548

>>13518900
Absolutely based

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>>13516707
That's Snail Mail, the generational voice of Zoomer lesbians

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>>13518512
>butterfliespanties.jpg

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>>13521554
love this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d91Qn8QUks

>> No.13521642

>>13518292
His point is that it takes away your symptoms but that still doesn't solve the underlying issue. You're dependant on those pills to function normally. It's not a permanent cure.

>> No.13521812

>>13513372
Is there a way to filter trip fags?

>> No.13521894

>>13521642
it's a permanent cure if you take them permanently

>> No.13521956

Not permanent if you build a tolerance.

>> No.13522005

>>13521956
you'd just take more, no?

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>>13522005

>> No.13522087

>>13513289
If he were alive today he'd be a discord tranny 100% sure

>> No.13522134

>>13513392
Believe in the me that believes in you!

>> No.13522648

anxiety isn't real, you just have to man up

>> No.13522686

>>13513289
*creates anxiety*

>> No.13524255

>>13521608
Cuter as a brunette

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>>13524255
IT'S BUTTERFLY
>IT'S BUTTERFLY
IT'S BUTTERFLY
>IT'S BUTTERFLY

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>>13521642
You know, he brings up an interesting point.
You/he wishes for people to be more independently resilient to pains, you may prescribe Stoicism or something. And I can agree, to some extent. Artificial stimulants might not work so well and can lead to addiction. Moderation, an Epicurean way, is what I usually like.
The same goes for all you despondent sad sacks who are shopping around for a deity to give you meaning. In this case I don’t recommend taking the sedative. Don’t dope your head full of nonsense to ease this existential pain. You run the risk of addiction and erratic behavior.
A little bit, if you can stand it, a little bit fiction in your life to stimulate it and inspire you to get up and participate in your life is all you need. Don’t become a faith fiend

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Anybody who has read this and can tell me if it’s worth reading? What’s his treatment of the Kierk about?

>> No.13525540

>>13513372
Is it me or has Butterfly become more bold in her faggotry in the past couple of weeks?

>> No.13525578

>>13524303
why's addiction bad anyway?

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Is pic related right? Is kierkegaardianism on a slippery slope to violence?

>> No.13525916

>>13513372
this

>> No.13526279

>>13525578
I include the reason there, *erratic behavior*, in the case of spiritualism, you have a world of terror and bloodshed, delusion and slavery.

>> No.13526377

>>13526279
being erratic is all right really though. lots of geniuses are erratic, like kanye west

>> No.13526398

>>13526377
Being drunk and such on occasion and individually seems fine to me, but societal generational delusion has proven degenerative and quite fatal

>> No.13526472

>>13526398
well if it's fatal then it is a permanent cure.

>> No.13526587

>>13526472
Says the infected.
Ants with a fungal infection have the sense enough to go curl up and die away from the nest. Religious zealots feel honor bound to spread the infection. Children keep colds to themselves better

>> No.13526595

>>13513289
>*solves anxiety*
goes nuts instead

>> No.13526601

>>13526279
Whenever I see this moth thing I just skip to the next post cause I know it's gonna be something entirely vapid with the sole purpose of getting attention lmao

>> No.13526604

>>13526601
Says the infected
Ants with a fungal infection have the sense enough to go curl up and die away from the nest. Religious zealots feel honor bound to spread the infection. Children keep colds to themselves better.

>> No.13526613

>>13518292
This. I've tried going off medications a couple times and it ends up just coming back even when I've had a proper diet, daily exercise ect. I really wish I didn't have to take them but it's a worlds difference better than just not

>> No.13526634

>>13526601
ok but why bother telling us, no one cares

>> No.13526667

>>13526634
it's pasta m8

>> No.13526671

>>13526587
pardon?

>> No.13526676

>>13526604
do not post in my thread, faggot

>> No.13526745

>>13518512

Is this the Italian guy without the accent?

>> No.13526752

>>13526667
same with the comment you responded too. It's a pasta response to pasta

>> No.13526983

>>13526752
same with the commet you responded to