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RELIGION EDITION
>Tell us about any interesting religions you've come across in SF/F literature
>Have any writers touched upon artificially intelligent beings finding their faith in god and religion?
>What are you currently reading and how is it?

Monthly Reading for July: The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins

Monthly Reading books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

Fantasy:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/0935e4cd59/105363.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg

Science Fiction:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/def184ad8f/124507.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/b44928ae11/114401.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21332.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21330.jpg

SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php


Previously:
>>13497339
>>13486156
>>13471912
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>>13441921

>> No.13511431

what are good books with lewd mommy archetypes

>> No.13511467

>>13511392
>six charts
wew lad

on a related topic, I finished Book 8 (Immortal Estate) of Desolate Era and Book 2 of the Divine Dungeon series recently

>> No.13511505

>>13511431
Trysmoon saga

>> No.13511529

Just picked up Lies of Locke Lamora. How'd I do?

>> No.13511549

>>13511467
I finished perfect world the other day, I enjoyed it, well not finished but reached current update

>> No.13511554

>>13511467
>six charts
I cut the leddit and NPR charts. The second fantasy chart still needs fixing, if anyone wants to "fix" it they're welcome to it. I'll get around to it at some point if nobody does.

>>13511529
Decent, it's worth a read. It's a cut above the usual pop fantasy trash churned out by Sanderson and Rothfuss but there's also no point reading past book 1. It goes downhill quite fast after the first one. It can be read as a standalone though.

>> No.13511557

>>13511392
Wasn't this topic recently done?
Does OP use it for recs for their self?
Is it the same person always making it?
Are you keeping track of topics used?

Anyway, recently read S. Andrew Swann's Prophets. Sci-fi space faring religions. I was rather conflicted reading it. Not because of the religions. I'm not sure why. I know that I didn't like the ending for sure though, which led to me deciding not to read the 2nd book. Not recommended.

I also happened to recently read several religious alternate history stories in an alternate history anthology. Didn't like any of them.

Religious rec is Yeshua's Dog by Tim Sullivan in the Nov/Dec 2014 issue of The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction.

Probably various others for the above, but I don't remember right now.

>> No.13511572

>>13511554
>I'll get around to it at some point if nobody does.
Condensing it to one homogenized chart per genre (fantasy/sci-fi) would do wonders, i.e., remove redundancies like several charts with the same books. Perhaps add a few more sub-genres like Amazon self-published. I'm sure we can easily solve this shit

>> No.13511575

sanderfag a hack

>> No.13511581

Does anybody else notice their copies of Foundation disappearing more than other books? This is the third time I've had to rebuy it

>> No.13511590

>>13511575
Based

>> No.13511591

I'm thinking of trying to do a "what /sffg/ thinks about certain often posted books" survey to reduce people asking about them. Maybe a "/sffg/ canon". Are the rec images just made by one random anon pushing their tastes? Seems the links change from thread to thread.
>>13511392
Linked to OP for exposure

>> No.13511592

>>13511557
>Wasn't this topic recently done?
No, but I did make a similar post in an earlier thread recently though. Someone suggested a religion topic for the OP in the last thread so I went with it and combined my question into it.
>Does OP use it for recs for their self?
Sometimes
>Is it the same person always making it?
I make 90% of the threads.
>Are you keeping track of topics used?
Yes, I do keep track of them.

>> No.13511597

Anyone have a good ebook collection of clark ashton smith's works? I downloaded an algernon blackwood collection from here a couple of days ago, looking for something similar but for clarky boy

>> No.13511600

>>13511572
Nice try but I'm not adding the smut chart to the op anon...

>> No.13511602

>>13511597
http://www.eldritchdark.com/

Has all of his stories and poems.

>> No.13511624

Why not just have all the rec images in some sort of linked gallery? Wasn't there a wiki at some point for lit recs?

>> No.13511632

>>13511624
no one maintained the wiki so it got discarded.

>> No.13511669

>>13511392

It's interesting wondering about these characters. Are they intelligent enough to understand that despite possessing sapience, as robots they do not have souls, and therefore simply devote themselves to spreading Christianity among humans?

>> No.13511673

>>13511669
>as robots they do not have souls,
prove it

>> No.13511688

>>13511669
>>13511673
Humans don't have souls either, as souls do not exist.
>prove a negative
Ha ha, sure.

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>>13511404
>I forgot to mention, mommy fags are banned from entering
No you.

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>>13511600
I'm not the guy you replied to, but if I wanted (and gave a fuck, which I don't) I could become the thread slave again and put my self published chart in the OP.
Who could stop me when I control the thread making? After a few weeks you guys would stop giving a fuck. Protip. A lot didn't want the npr chart nor the great sf&f chart, but they have been up for years. I could have taken them out years ago.

>>13511557
>Wasn't this topic recently done?
Yes.

>Does OP use it for recs for their self?
I think he does. I think he is the religious nut that throws a fit at degeneracy.

>Is it the same person always making it?
Yes. He is called thread slave.

>Are you keeping track of topics used?
No he doesn't. I used to try and make a different topic and op pic per threads when I was the slave, but people threw shit at the topics. Since this new slave took over I haven't seen people complaining... Maybe people that actually cared about the general left years ago...
>you fought something so long that you became it

>> No.13511756

>>13511692
>Alissa Nutting
That's a pen name right?

>> No.13511760

>>13511692
Tampa was hot

>> No.13511776

>>13511505
I read first book last year then just forgot about the series . Gotta get back to it now i guess

>> No.13511808

>>13511591
>I'm thinking of trying to do a "what /sffg/ thinks about certain often posted books" survey to reduce people asking about them.
Did something like that years ago, although it was people asking for books with dragons and AIs,msentient planets, etc.

>Maybe a "/sffg/ canon".
Yes. The most memed books should be put in a chart that states they are memed books, so people will make their own mind if to read or not.

>Are the rec images just made by one random anon pushing their tastes?
The first two original charts were made by an e/lit/ist fag before this general was even conceived. The others were added on periodically. With exception of the original charts, yes, someone was pushing their tastes. They are still doing so now, telling people to remove books they don't like >>13511554
>I'll get around to it at some point if nobody does.

>Seems the links change from thread to thread.
the above aforementioned autist anon throws a shit now and again and tries to alter the OP.

>> No.13511830
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>It has been [time period] since the [great event]. The land of [land name] is in chaos. [Duplicitous organization/entity] threatens to take over the land. Meanwhile, a young [vocation] named [protagonist name] wanted nothing to do with such grand events. However, they must contend with their call to destiny, for they have the power to [normal verb, but capitalized, so as to present it as something supernatural/special]. Now, they embark upon an EPIC journey, armed with only his [normal noun, but capitalized, so as to present it as something supernatural/special] to uncover THE TRUTH. Time will tell if they prevail...

Someone give me a fantasy novel that doesn't read like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-gxcMidl9k and make me want to fucking off myself

>> No.13511858

I've been around since /r9k/ was the original /lit/ board, before /lit/ was made. I haven't been active though for the last several years. Mostly active 2010-2012 and only off and on since then on lit, thus the questions and ideas for change.

Even if don't like the wiki, with pages such as, https://4chanlit.fandom.com/wiki/Charts or https://4chanlit.fandom.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading/sub
I think there were other wikis as well, but don't feel like looking at some other stuff at the moment.

The linked mega https://mega.nz/#F!i74ljAyA!q-k3-msTUs6a_PVfJPLkeA!O3pmVQqR
still seems a good source for rec charts.

Seems to have a sffg folder as well.

I'll be considering some plans. To be seen if it anything comes of it.

>> No.13511891

anyone here actually read The Wizard Of Oz?

I've finally decided to pick it up and it's got me thinking that the book was actually meant to be a parody of the time's isekai stories

Like, in alice in wonderland, alice falls ass-first into wonderland. In the wizard of oz, dorothy likewise falls ass-first into oz, but she lands on the main villain and kills her instantly. The quest is all pointless, the backup main villain is likewise killed by accident, and the great and powerful wizard turns out to be some schmuck from Nebraska who is himself an isekai protagonists who managed to con an entire fantasy world into thinking he was a sorcerer

just the layers of parody on this are delicious, and the fact that this is treated by the public as a straight fairy tale instead of the turn of the century shrek is ludicrous

>> No.13511923

>>13511891
Didn't you post about oz in the last thread?
We didn't answer you then, you think we care now?

>> No.13511949

>>13511923
>science fiction/fantasy general
>shut the fuck up about fantasy! REEEEEEEEEE

neck yourself

>> No.13511959

>>13511891
The problem with that perspective is that Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass weren't serious stories either. They don't have plots, just random wandering towards vague goals, or antagonists, just things that happen to momentarily obstruct travel. And any semblance of dramatic tension didn't matter because they were both just dreams. Both stories were just frameworks for absurd humor; The Wizard of Oz is actually much more conventionally structured.

>> No.13512073

>>13511692
more like straight shota

>> No.13512082
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>>13511692
>>13512073
Based and mommypilled

>> No.13512305

>>13511752
Anon..you do realize you're coming across as a a seething bitter cunt because people used to call your threads shit and nobody wants to read your trash harem litrpgs right?

This topic was also never done before. Threads are never repeated. The only exception that I can think happened recently when there was a double thread at the same time and one was allowed to die with barely any comments so I used the topic (PROSE EDITION) again for the next thread.

Here's the archive link
>>https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_subject=%2Fsffg%2F&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=op&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=op

>> No.13512322

>>13511673
>>13511688

I posed an actually interesting science-fiction premise which could make for an intriguing short story and you fucking fedora nimrods see right through it b/c "no we don't even want to entertain that in fiction"

t. atheist

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Sword & Sorcery

>> No.13512333

>>13512305
or could have just linked this:
>>https://warosu.org/lit/image/g_T61lgPoN9jNlEvsKxqjw

>> No.13512335

What's your favorite sci-fi novel published in the last three years?

What's your favorite fantasy novel published in the last three years?

>> No.13512338

>>13512322
Woah there, ol' fella, good buddy!
That isn't what was said at all.
You can write whatever you want about whatever you want.

>> No.13512342

>>13512322
>I posed an actually interesting science-fiction premise which could make for an intriguing short story
>bro do robots believe in it or do they just spread it like lmao
where is the interesting part

>> No.13512343

>>13512333
see >>13511592

>> No.13512354

>>13512342

Because the premise is obviously a variation on the theme of the humanity (or lack thereof) of the sapient android/self-aware machine, and its role as a philosophical subject.

>> No.13512379

Do Chatbots Dream Of Incessant Shitposting?

>> No.13512455

Is Anathem about religion? It's on my to read list.

>> No.13512471

>>13512354
yeah and we have seen it a million times, humanity in artificial beings isn't a new subject

>> No.13512476

If you're not posting YA coming of age fantasy published after 2000 then I don't care so take it somewhere else

>> No.13512488

>Varys joked about being a merfolk at one point in ASOIAF
>Both Manderly and Greyjoys have merfolk lore in their house mythology

What are the chances Varys is related to either one of these houses?

>> No.13512518

So I just finished House of Suns and damn that was fun, what other slower than light kinos are like this?

>> No.13512534

>>13511949
Did I say anything about it being fantasy? I said no one cared for your shit then and we don't now.

>> No.13512549

>>13512455
No but it's really really good. Instead of monks studying religion in a monastery, the monks in the book are studying science and philosophy.

Also, religion in /sffg/? Ya better read A Canticle for Leibowitz.

Currently reading A Player of Games by Banks. So far so good. I'm getting in the mood for GenCon next week.

>> No.13512596

>>13512534
stop being a cunt and start fostering conversation shitlord

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>>13512330
Hit the gym fatso.

>> No.13512647

>>13512596
Not that anon, but fostering conversation about Wizard of Oz? You for real?

>> No.13512670

>>13512647
fantasy is fantasy. you're the ones always spamming these threads with dinosaur crap, is this the science fiction/fantasy general, or is this the sucking gene wolfe's pringles can corpse cock general?

>> No.13512708

>>13512670
>you're the ones always spamming these threads with dinosaur crap
No. Those are the dino crew that does that.
Also Who wants to talk about wizard of oz? Yikes.

>> No.13512721

So I ran a dupe and similar images check on rec images and I saw that the I had two versions, there may have existed more for all I know, of the Science Fiction Crash Course Chart.

The only difference is one has Ancillary Justice and the other has The Quantum Thief.

I don't know if it was updated later to add the former in place or the latter, or if someone was triggered by the former and exchanged it for the latter and posted it the altered version.

Which should I keep? I don't like having redundant images. No, just having both books in the image isn't an option.

>> No.13512738

>>13512721
Remove Ancillary Justice.

>> No.13512739

>>13512708
gotcha. all hail /sgwpcccg/

>> No.13512761

>>13512738
For ideological reasons?

>> No.13512769

>>13512761
No, Quantum Thief is simply better, at least in my opinion.

>> No.13512792

>>13512739
>question marks basketball player.jpeg

>> No.13512804

>>13512670
>>13512792
>sucking gene wolfe's pringles can corpse cock general
>>13512739
>/sgwpcccg/

Silly, I know, but that's how people are.

>> No.13512826

>>13512721
>>13512769
Well, I guess there wasn't really any need to post about it, since it's already in the OP. I looked in the archive to verify. Originally it had Quantum Thief and seems it was changed sometime after Justice was released in 2016.

>> No.13512834

>>13512826
Probably some troll

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>>13512804
Your amount of butthurt over this refusal to discuss Wizard of Oz (of all the books) is hilarious. I am actually laughing.
Please tell you are just funposting.

>> No.13512852

Is it me or in fantasy and sci-fi, especially from publishers like TOR, being overrun with need to write every book with "Strong woman must overcome the odds" as the main protagonist?
Every book has a womans face on the cover.
What happened to male role models, monsters, robots and spaceships?
Am I missing something?

>> No.13512854

>>13512846
Different anon than you who you were talking to.
I couldn't care less if you want to talk about any Oz or Oz-related book.
Personally, I've only seen the movie and I didn't like it, even as a child.

>> No.13512858

>>13512846
A thin (sticc) slut. Where the thicc sluts at?

>> No.13512859

>>13512852
>Am I missing something?
Yes, female readers is much larger demographic for everything now and then also the many of the males won't care. So the males who do care are in the minority and thus will not be a matter of concern.

>> No.13512862

there is nothing wrong with dinosaurs

>> No.13512867

>>13512852
Naw. You're missing nothing. Sjw rule the court of public opinion. You either shoehorn in some shit that will fuck up your entire story and make people avoid anything you write in the future, or you get dragged through the mud on social media.

>> No.13512868

>>13512862
>You saw them learn how to open doors
>now they need to learn how to fly a space ship

>> No.13512871

>>13512859
>female readers is much larger demographic for everything now

Do you have anything to back up that statement?

>> No.13512872

>>13512862
There certainly is a lot of dinosaur erotica.

>> No.13512875

>>13512867
Same anon here.

So are people writing to write, or writing to shill books?

>> No.13512879

>>13512858
There's plenty in Wheel of Time, one of it's few good features.

>> No.13512880

>>13512859
The males who care sup at the breast of Amazon unlimited.

>> No.13512881

Has anybody done campy sci-fi erotica?
>The Space Captains docksleeve
>Zero-G Spot

>> No.13512890

>>13512871
It's been proven true. Search through the archives for old threads where links were posted.

>> No.13512894

>>13512858
Your nearest African-American neighborhood?

>> No.13512897

>>13512890
>4chan threads

Opinion discarded.

Thanks for answering.

>> No.13512904

>>13512875
They are writing whatever their masters (traditional publishing) says is okay.
It's why I fuck with self pubbed.
Look how they forced Sanderson to put faggots and disabled people in his books.

>> No.13512912

>>13512881
>Zero-G Spot
Wasn't there something, and excerpt about somebody fucking in zero-g a few years ago?

>> No.13512917

>>13512897
That was a different anon.
Let me clarify what I meant.
There are far more women reading than men.
The companies want these women.
I don't know how their sales are doing regarding this.
The only thing I've seen about that is that DC/Marvel have tried to do a similar push, but it hasn't worked out well.
As for TOR in particular, I don't know how it's working out for them.
Look at it more as an investment in hopes of making more profit in the future.
If it doesn't work out, then probably will change course. My assumption is that profit is more important.

>> No.13512919

>>13512897
Sffg threads you fuck cunt.
And I'm glad you disregarded my opinion, because I want you to live a long fruitful life. That means you will kys as soon as possible.

>> No.13512924

>>13512894
I like thicc white bitches. Even better if they are mature.

>> No.13512926

>>13512904
>forced
Are you sure that isn't just how you feel about it?

>> No.13512929

>>13512868
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP

>Deinonychus descends from the control room in a space suit
>Tom cruise is looking up with a shocked expression while he's taking off his sunglasses
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
>Music by Hans Zimmer starts playing
>"We've known about their existence for years"
>shot of Tom Cruise running
>Vin diesel is talking with Dwayne
>"Looks like we've got another job on our hands, you think you can do it?
>"You bet Jurassican"
>Vin Diesel smirks
>Music gets even more intense
>shot of Tom Cruise running with Ana De Armas dressed scantly
>Space marines and fighter ships shooting at T.Rex commander
>"HE'S TOO STRONG, WE AREN'T EVEN SCRATCHING HIM!"
>buildings collapsing everywhere
>shot of Tom Cruise holding onto a missile as it flies through the air
>"Benji could you please open the missile DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!"
>shot of Vin Diesel flying his star fighter into the T.Rex's face in slow motion
>music intensity at its peak
>black screen as soon he's about to hit him, music goes quiet
BRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>title fades in
>S P A C E D I N O S
>cut to Kevin Hart signing a cheque for his last payment on the house
>cheerily walks out front door and puts cheque in mailbox
>giant foot slams into the block behind him, demolishing his house
>horrified look on his face as he hears the destruction
>turns around
>"AW HELL NAW AINT THAT A MEGASOREASS

>> No.13512937

>>13512929
So what's the final verdict? I didn't watch the latest Jurassic Park.
Were dinos feathered?

>> No.13512938

>>13512926
He's Mormon. You know how they really feel about different people being servants of Satan.

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>>13512929
>>"You bet Jurassican"

>> No.13512944

>>13512919
>>13512917

https://pudding.cool/2017/06/best-sellers/

A little better data than 4chan threads. But it's still a blog. If the numbers are true then, the gap is closing and changing, but not by much in the fantasy/sci-fi category.

TOR to me was always the second-hand publisher that had the low-brow stuff. It's gotten better over the years.

>> No.13512950

>>13512929
Would watch

>> No.13512951

>>13512938
Yes, I know, but that doesn't mean he was forced.

>> No.13512961

>>13512944
That is statistics about the author, not the buyers.
They may or may not be different.

>> No.13512978

>>13512944
That being said, interesting stuff.
I don't like how it says "gender", but it is what it is.
Personally, I say there's 3 primary sexes (male, female, intersex) and unlimited genders because it's entirely a social construct so people can say whatever they want. There are a lot of gender fetishists out there though.

>> No.13512997

i asked this before in a previous thread but i wasn't satisfied with the couple answers. i want to make a story where people eliminated the necessity for gender by being able to create people synthetically- is there a problem with that? for me the problem is the fact that i think personality traits are very tightly connected with gender and if you have a group of genderless people they would be akin to robots

>> No.13513009

>>13512997
There is a lot of fiction that deals with gender and sex.

Some types:
Everyone is a clone of one person.
Everyone is the same sex.
Everyone is created without any sexual characteristics
Everyone is created without sexual characteristics and then later in life can become one or the other.
Everyone can change everything about themselves at any time.
Everyone has all sexual characteristics at the same time.
Alien race that has entirely different physiology where there's no human analog.
and much else.

The only "problem" with it, as you've said, is with yourself. The only thing you have to decide how and whether these synthetics reproduce and whether they using use the standard human biological model.

>> No.13513013

>>13512721
>>13512738
>>13512769
There are only two versions, and the later version with Ancillary Justice instead has a "v2" in the corner.

I changed it because while I actually do think that Quantum Thief is better than Ancillary Justice, it is also quite similar (and inferior to) The Golden Age. For better or worse, gender is a major fixation of SF writers in the time period covered by the last row of the chart (basically, post-2000) and Ancillary Justice is the least-retarded example of it that I'm familiar with.

The "crash course" chart isn't intended to be a list of the "best" SF books, but a guide for a relatively new reader to become quickly familiar with major subjects and subgenres starting from the early 20th century to the present.

>> No.13513019

>>13513013
I don't care

>> No.13513020

>>13513013
So it does.
I guess I was just inattentive.

>> No.13513026

>>13512997
Houston Houston do you read

>> No.13513041

>>13513009
i guess there's not much of a limit

also are deserts cliche sci fi settings?

>> No.13513055

>>13513041
Depends on if you think one book series, such as Dune, makes them cliche.

>> No.13513071

>>13512879
Wtf i love WoT now?!?!!
>>13512871
go to r/fantasy most of the users there are women,or at least they write like women

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Heh. You kids wanna try some Snow Crash? The first hit is free..

>> No.13513219

Ideas for digital drugs

>> No.13513226

>>13513219
an anonymous imageboard

>> No.13513240

>>13512804
>Pringles can
Source? with images pls

>> No.13513292

In my (in-progress) fantasy novel I use a variety of gods from different pantheons as dead gods representative of the various crusades and past destructions wrought by the "Church of Light" --

is it hacky to use names of real gods from history? there's an area inspired by the Welsh whose deity is basically The Morrigan, but .. okay, yeah, it's hacky.

>> No.13513302

>>13513041
there's not many desert scifi settings, and I'd argue Dune is more fantasy or sword and planet than scifi.

Personally, I think there's a lot of potential for desert scifi settings, but unfortunately the ideas I come up with would all be better as fantasy stories.

I remember months ago I had an idea for a story about a spice merchant in a decopunk martian colony who unwittingly gets caught up in a drug deal that only gets more complicated when it's revealed the drug in question is actually the nanobots that caused native martian civilization to collapse, sparing only a few nomadic tribes

>> No.13513305

>>13513226
Could see that, imagine being able to shitpost at the speed of thought

>> No.13513307

>>13512978
>pulled this shit last thread and got a few (you)s from bored anons
>thinks people will indulge him again
>thinks he's clever

>> No.13513325

>>13513307
Turns out different people can do similar things.

>> No.13513333

>>13513292
It's hacky to call it church of light or enlightenment or illumination

>> No.13513335

>>13513325
You mean this >>13512997 anon?

>> No.13513347

>>13513307
anon, can you personally fuck off. You're clearly the same fucking cocksucker who's been shitting on anyone who repeats themselves, but I have yet to see you contribute a damn thing to this thread. You have nothing to add, you just want the conversation to stop at your whims

>> No.13513380

>>13512978
>I say there's 3 primary sexes
There is 2.
Just like the statement "humans have 5 fingers on each hand" doesn't become invalidated by someone with a genetic illness who has 6.

>because it's entirely a social construct
Yes, it's entirely fictive.
It's the same as furfags, an entirely fake identity without a basis in reality.
Of course you can say "I identify as a Wolf/a-gender" but that doesn't mean that your self identification corresponds to reality.

>> No.13513386

>>13513335
No, you.

>> No.13513391

>>13513380
A coin may have only two sides, but the edges still exist.

>> No.13513407

>>13513325
There's only me and you in this board,anon

>> No.13513443
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Is this good? I've never read a D&D novel, so I don't know what to expect.

>> No.13513449

>>13513443
yeah,it's entry level fantasy but pretty comfy.i didn't like that the third book is sequel bait tho

>> No.13513461

>>13513443
It isn't D&D.

>> No.13513466

>>13513461
>dragonlance
>not d&d
say what now

>> No.13513467

>>13513391
Profound

>> No.13513469

Strated reading False gods, second Horus heresy book. So far so good. I plan to get rendezvous with rama after I'm done with the books I'm reading now

>> No.13513470

>>13513443
My girl says it's worth it just for the Raistlin parts, but she reads faggy dragonrider stuff

>> No.13513472

>>13513466
>>13513467
The mechanics and roleplaying are entirely irrelevant to the shared universe. It's simply a shared universe setting, similar to a few others.

There's no attempt to make it feel like a "litrpg" as in modern terms.

>> No.13513492

Some example shared universes:
Dragonlance
Forgotten Realms
Greyhawk
Magic: The Gathering
Wild Cards
Thieves' World
Mongoliad
Bordertown

and various others

>> No.13513497

>>13513347
>lets talk about gender bait in the fucking genre fiction general
Kys you piece of shit and take your off topic bait to the grave with you.

>> No.13513504

>>13513497
If you would, please define the borders of being on topic.

>> No.13513511

>>13513504
Your philosophy gender shit belongs in his, lgbt or sci.

>> No.13513518

>>13513511
That's avoiding the question.

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>130 posts in 10 hours
wew

>> No.13513667

>>13513626
Mostly by just a few people arguing with each other.

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>>13511392
Hyperion and the cult of the Shrike was fucking interesting even though the book itself was rather anticlimactic

>> No.13513894

>>13511858
Some of those charts are substantially better than most of our sticky.
>>13511752
I liked you more than the current slave.

>Open /r/fantasy
>Sort by top of the week
>Scroll through top 15 posts
>Trailers, paintings, and interviews with hacks
>The only actual post about a book is "Cradle series? More like Crack series!"

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>>13513667
If it only it was a bit more interesting, instead of beating the same old dead horses.
Plus it's all fantasy.

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>>13513894
>/r/fantasy
Apparently Jim Butcher finished writing his last novel.
I am also going to check out their dark adult fantasy recommendations. Thanks anon.

>> No.13514012

>>13513894
I'm renaming, reorganizing, and adding stuff into that mega I linked. I copied it over to a mega I made. Should be done in a day or two. Hopefully works out better. So go whims. It's the first step anyway.

>> No.13514021

>its an American author portrays nobles as inherently evil in every man woman and child episode

>> No.13514022

>it's inane green posting without context

>> No.13514051

>>13513950
modern fantasy is dead as fuck

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>>13514051
Yes, yes, we know.
Old - good, new - bad.
In the meantime I'll be enjoying the new Dragon Age: Tevinter Nights collections of shorts.

>> No.13514085

>>13514081
hey man, if you want to eat shit far be it from me to stop you.

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>>13514085
It's good to know one's limitations with regard to others.

>> No.13514105

>>13514081
>NIGGA KNIGHT
>On his journey to find the best KFC in all of the lands Sir Jequonderious Van Bixnood must brave the wilds with his trusty Sword Chuck and elegant steed Jive. He must at all times stay vigilant and be on the lookout of evil forces trying to rid the world of fried chicken and water melons.
>On his journey he will meet friends and enemies whose goals seem to align with his own, but in this world filled with strife and conflict no one really is truly who they claim to be
>Join the Dark Knight on his adventures in this action packed adventure that explores real life matters of race, sexuality and the differences of weed strains in this one of a kind story written by the talented authors of Bioware. Don't forget to get some fried chicken and cool aid or you wont experience this emotional journey as it is intended.
>SPOILERS: THERE ARE NO WHITE PEOPLE AS WE PREFER FANTASY TO BE PERFECT ELVES ARE CLOSER TO TREE PEOPLE AND LIGHT SKINNED HUMANS ARE TIED TO JEWISH ANCASTRY
>5* amazon reviews.

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>>13514105
But if there are no whities, who are the bad guys going to be?

>> No.13514114

>>13514110
Other liberal brown people

>> No.13514126 [SPOILER] 
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>>13514114
Fantasy Uncle Tom's are the worst.

>> No.13514148

>>13513950
God I wish that was me

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>>13514148
Bad tranny!
Git!

>> No.13514173

>>13514081
Dragon Age died when they finished awakening

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>>13514173
No arguments here.
Ye olde Bioware is gone and so is the magic. Personally I was always a bigger fan of Mass Effect and my disappointment with the latest installment was almost as deep as with that Witcher abomination from Netflix.

>> No.13514450

>>13513950
How much you want to bet that that is is tranny?

>> No.13514465

>>13514450
Look man, I am trying to be polite and non-confrontational here.
All discussion pertaining those poor souls who fell for the tranny meme should be done in the appropriate containment board - /lgbt.

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Wow, I bought this book because I wanted autistic descriptions of medieval doorsteps instead I get flying battleships and heavy machine crossbows.
Dropped.

>> No.13514481

>>13514105
>it's a pol pretends that only black people eat fried chicken, watermelon and drink koolaid

>> No.13514486

>>13514481
Seething

>> No.13514491

>>13514481
Can you please be politically correct down the block? You are kind of ruining the rhythm here.

>> No.13514500

>>13514465
You are posting scantily clad men in elf costumes, then you pull shit like "all who are like the pics I posted belongs in lgbt". Why the fuck did you post it here?

>> No.13514511

>>13514491
What rhythm???
(Un)subtly posting pol shit and getting pol replies?
Neck yourself.

>> No.13514522

>>13514491
>>13514486
>>13514105
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GsyjNef2ydQ

>> No.13514531

>>13514522
https://youtu.be/mDfWAr8ut_I?t=28

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>>13514500
>>13514511
Pls don't seethe.
It's unseemly for grown men to act in such a way.
You have your own general for that.

>> No.13514580

>>13514105
Holy Based!

>> No.13514632

>>13514548
Michael Jackson?

>> No.13514644

Hello, bros. I haven't been following the news for the last few months. Is The Doors of Stone any closer to coming out?

>> No.13514813

>>13514644
For the thousandth time, no. He’s already said he can’t write as long as trump is president. It’s too stressful when trump is out there being mean so he can’t write.

>> No.13514879

>>13514548
>meh probably kinda.mfv
I would fuck that thing on the right.

>> No.13514890

>>13511392

I'm going to shout out Anathem for having a religion that's essentially the multiple worlds theory mixed with 1001 Arabian Nights.

https://anathem.fandom.com/wiki/Kelx

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Sword & Sorcery[/spoiler/

>> No.13515008

>>13514813
Maybe Trump can go for a 3rd therm.

>> No.13515021

>>13515008
There is no need, one more term is enough. Patrick will likely kill himself the day after the results.

>> No.13515165

Uplift Saga by David Brin. Do I start with Sundiver? It seems like that book isn't as well liked as Startide Rising.

>> No.13515188

>>13514813
>>13515021
Based Trump Making Fantasy Great Again.

>> No.13515217

>>13513706
I like the idea of that guy getting electrocuted to death for eternity

>> No.13515227

>>13513706

The Shrike would be my favorite villain of all time if it weren't for the fact that he's just a force of nature. Simmons must have had a masterful fluke because nothing else he has never done has come close to the execution and concept of the Shrike, even though if I were to explain what the shrike does it feels deflated and vaudeville.

>> No.13515231

>>13514511
Found the redditor

>> No.13515244

>>13515227
I read the book but I'm still not sure what his purpose was, time cop?

>> No.13515247

>>13514813

It blows my mind remembering that for a good while his excuse was he wanted to finish playing Mass Effect 3 first before he continued writing

>> No.13515256

>>13515244

This is spoilers for the rest of the series but he's an avatar and pawn of the techno union at the end of time hunting down and torturing people for all eternity to flush out the avatar of the Ultimate Intelligence of humanity, or that's what I remember at least

>> No.13515263

>>13515256
Was the poet the ultimate intelligence? Or was it the soldier guy and his time-girlfriend from Hastings?

>> No.13515280

>>13515263

The soldier, aka the Butcher actually fights and defeats the Shrike in the far future and his power and brutality are used to forge the Shrike that goes back in time. The Ultimate Intelligence is the child who was born to the detective woman who fucked the cybrid

>> No.13515289

Where are my xianxiafags at? Any of you nerds fuck with Tower of God?

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>> No.13515303

>>13515296

I'll admit that I'm irritated by how every time a form of Christianity is in the future its always the Catholic church which has degraded in its changes, as opposed to the One Holy Apostolic and Catholic Church that is Orthodoxy

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13515330

Are there any good SF&F podcasts? I've tried a few recommended to me and I cringed from the experience. I do want something that both has recommendations and reviews on past stuff as well as talking about current and upcoming releases. Going into subgenres is also fine!

>> No.13515339

>>13515330
>a fucking goat

>> No.13515345

>>13515289
Tower of God peaked at the Push.

>> No.13515370

>>13515231
Yes, because 4chan has always been pol, and if you are against pol, you are rebbit. It doesn't matter that most of the pol users are from redshit in the first place.
God I wish the mods actually contained you fucks and kept you in your cesspit. Since hiro took over yall had a lot of free reign.

>> No.13515377

>>13515370
>It doesn't matter that most of the pol users are from redshit in the first place.
I like how the redditor is desperate to convince people that everyone from 4chan is from reddit too

>> No.13515389

>>13515345
The what

>> No.13515402

>>13511467
Divine Dungeon went downhill really fast with save the world bullshit.

DE gets better and better, it gets bogged down a bit towards the end of the first arc but starts improving rapidly after Ji Ning leaves his home galaxy. Paragon of Pills and Nuwa arcs later on are completely lights out. Some of the best stuff I've come across.

>> No.13515417

>>13515389
When the cripple girl reveals she’s been faking and pushes him off the platform at the end of season one..

You should really be careful about reading this spoiler if you aren’t too far into ToG.

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>>13513214

>> No.13515434

>>13515417
That's vague as fuck, should have just said the finale of season one. I've been following it for 3 years now wow I never even thought of it until just then FUCK RACHEL

>> No.13515445

>>13512924
Do you also like fried chicken, watermelon, and prison time?

>> No.13515447

>>13515370
>implying he is not right
During and after the 2016 election the demographic of this site have changed rapidly desu

>> No.13515450

>>13513518
This anon wins

>> No.13515453

>>13515377
>I like how the redditor is desperate to convince people that everyone from 4chan is from reddit too
>post talks about most pol users being from redbite
>desperate to convince people that everyone from 4chan is from reddit too
>everyone from 4chan is from reddit too
>this is the reading comprehension level on the literature board

>> No.13515454

>>13515402
I saw some comments on how Divine Dungeon seems like the author just gave up. Should I stop bothering with it? I don't think I'll put much serious effort into reading it since I'm somehow fine with DE right now although I'm going to try to get through CD as well and probably read the two exclusively until I finish CD or I shoot myself from all the phrase repetition.
Don't spoil me too much now. It's fun seeing all the obvious inspiration this had on Cradle with the similar elements popping up.

>> No.13515460

>>13513391
A false and ultimately irrelevant analogy.

>> No.13515462

>>13515447
Yeah lotta trannys from discord shit this place up

>> No.13515464

>>13515402
>divine dungeon went downhill but chink shit never goes downhill it just gets bogged down
Aren't you supposed to be helping fight tariffs and resource bans?

>> No.13515466

>>13515462
>implying there are lots of trannys

>> No.13515473

>>13515450
>replying to yourself
>we're totally different people I swear

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>>13511669
That might depend Hobbes Postulates that the soul is simply animus, movement, and he notes that in a number of cases when the bible says his soul was taken away or that life was breath into him it meant either the lack of animus or the presnce. one can find a similiar idea in the koran where creatures are lifeless until God breaths life into them and which point they can move about. Going by that rubric Robots as long as they were self animating could be considered as having souls. Of course if the soul is not in fact animus and rather a enternal metaphysical sprite that resides in a fleshy shell(cell) we must first define the function of the soul in its cell(would human being without a soul be the same as one with one or would they lack certain functions) from hence could we extrapolate that a robot possessing all the functions reserved for the human soul must itself posses a soul.

>> No.13515486

>>13515473
I didn’t reply to myself. I just pointed out who won the argument. Don’t be such a little sissy

>> No.13515493

>>13515453
Everyone from /pol/ is from Tumblr you silly redditor

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>uh oh people are discussing science fiction and fantasy in the /science fiction and fantasy general/
>better start shitposting about some 10 hour post!!

>> No.13515498

>>13515466
Due to conditioning for the weak minded, pushed by the media, there are far more today than there ever have been in this countries history.

>> No.13515503

>>13515493
I thought reddit was a far left site

>> No.13515506

How would you rate Cixin Liu? Is he just a meme or actually a good author?
His characters are more oftenly than not just shit, but man, I love his ideas, I'm half-way through the Trisolaris-trilogyand he didn't disappoint with the annihilation of the Human defense forces

>> No.13515507

>>13513518
>>13515450
>>13515486
Screenshot this post then.

>> No.13515510

>>13515503
It is, that's why you can easily identify redditors by their inability to handle people who disagree with them and a proclivity to scream for mods to come silence the bad opinions

>> No.13515537

>>13515507
I’m on my phone and can’t post images. Like I said I just pointed out the winner. You seem to have a lot more invested in this than I so I’m letting you know this will be the last response you get.

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>>13515453
Nigga I already told you - be a sanctimonious prick up the block?
Don't make me cap yo' ass foo'.

>>13515466
We are being overrun by those limp dicked abominations. They recruit from the horribly insecure user base of this site, praying on those poor weebs and gaymers.

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>>13515370
waaahhh 4chan was never racist!!! been doing this shit since before you were alive, son, gb2reddit

>> No.13515568

>>13515537
Why can't you post images from your phone? Screenshot, upload and it's done.
Also, the comment asking for a screenshot was my first contribution to this conversation, not invested in it at all, I don't even know what the argument was about but it's quite obvious you're samefagging.

>> No.13515582

Do you read qidian webnovels, anon? Why are you such a chink degenerate, anon?
Pls recommend

>> No.13515595

>>13515548
Gottem

>> No.13515604

>>13515582
>qidian
fuckers steal novels from translators then remove them from their site and put them behind a paywall. if the translators resist they are threatened with tencent chink money.
yes tencent ons quidian.
i hate them so much.

>> No.13515638

>>13515539
literally a dude in a wig with make up
not even remotely female

>> No.13515656

>>13515638
Can you fuck of with your transphobia back to /pol/ please?

>> No.13515657

>>13515656
he's not trans, he's a crossdresser

>> No.13515661

>>13515656
I'm writing a book about how someone with schizophrenia has all of his delusions enabled by society and he becomes an actual god

>> No.13515671
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>>13515638
>literally a dude in a wig with make up
And these are the people that post here and get their overly stretched panties in a bunch about niggers.

>>13515656
You need to go back.

>>13515661
The Golden God.

>> No.13515688

>>13515671
>sneaky showing of his shitty mr skeletal legs

For what purpose does he keep doing this? Someone get this poor lad to a gym. Do some toning.

>> No.13515729

>>13515688
How should I know?
The nigga is mentally ill after all.

>> No.13515778

>>13515661
I like it already.

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Are there any "slice of life" fantasy books?
You know, no grand adventure, no prophecies or destines. Something like following the life of a blacksmith, farmer or merchant. Like traveling around Talking to people about prices, whats gonna sell, haggle about sales and purchases. Raise kids or be a teacher.
You know the day to day stuff that is basically always cut out in novels.

>> No.13515863

>>13515839
Pillars of the Earth, just a mason suddenly put out of his home by a noble who is no longer getting married and doesn't need the home built anymore. Mason dreams of building a cathedral one day

>> No.13515868

>>13515863
Thanks.

>> No.13515899

>>13515863
Sounds comfy

>> No.13515901

>>13515165
Yes,but you can skip it and read Startide Rising if you want.

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>>13515506
I'm not a fan of the dark forest theory; it's too pessimistic and doesn't make sense in any case. Any technological civilization that beats you to the galactic stage will be able to completely dominate the galaxy within a few million years at most, and monitor or eliminate every potential life evolving planet. Even if a few intelligent species evolve within the same period of a million years or so, whoever has the lead will be able to spend a fraction of their home system dyson swarm's energy/mass budget to mass produce billions of massive satellites and monitor every star system in the galaxy. Fusion torch drives would be visible from many light years away, and even fission power torches should still be quite visible. Any buildup of lights on the surface of a planet would be detectable, and especially the formation of a dyson swarm would be easily seen. The whole "oh no we better try and hide" thing is nonsense unless your universe actually allows some kind of stealth; which ours seemingly doesn't. Even then it would be better to expand and harvest as much matter/energy as possible ASAP.

>> No.13515940

>>13513443
>>13513470
The Incel Raistlin vs the Chad Caramon

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>>13515933
Everyone who is interested in such approaches to the Fermi paradox or other things concerning futurism I highly recommend the YouTube channel from Isaac Arthur, he does great and long stuff on a huge array of these topics while staying grounded on our current understanding of physics. Additionally, he oftentimes talks about sci-fi concepts like the dark forest theory from the book of the same name and how bullshit some of these are. Great channel.
I know that Luo Ji is stupid for thinking that, but you know, many things in his trilogy don't make any sense like instantaneous communication between the sophons and the Trisolarians which even quantum physics prohibits. But well, I've never read a sci-fi story that really made completely sense.

Also, Cixin Liu's view on China is pretty much pic related. Not that he has a choice, but still.

>> No.13516176

>>13513443
I read through all the mainline Dragonlance books (mainly trilogies) early last year for the first time and they all hold up surprisingly well. Variety of characters, authors are great at showing internal monologue and ideology. I had a great time.

>> No.13516241

>>13516176
>forced myself to finish old mans war
>kind of want to know what happens next
do I force myself to ready the other 5 books or do I just forget about it and read something else

>> No.13516323

>>13516241

Honestly if you didn't like Old Man's War, I can't imagine you having a revelation with the rest. Try to get through the next book, and if you feel burdened look up a plot summary and carry on because its all about multiculturalism and open immigration policies

>> No.13516326

>>13515595
>>13515548
Did I say anything about racism or you shitting up the place with politics bait?
The pool is not goddamned closed.

>> No.13516336

>>13515839
Sailing to Sarantium is about an artist getting commissioned by an Emperor who is not Justinian to do a mosaic in a temple which is not the Hagia Sophia in a city which is not Constantinople.

>> No.13516544

>>13516326
Holy yikes just learn to take the L

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>>13516544
Please do not use reddit speak on this board.
This is /lit.
The last thing anyone needs is a bunch of redditors sounding like middle-aged crossdresses.

>> No.13516595

>>13515568
4chan(nel) blocks some mobile IP addresses from uploading images.

>> No.13516619

>>13516579
wew

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13516647

Will his books be remembered as the epitome of early 21st century mainstream "outlook"/taste?
They seem perfectly integrated into the current era in their feel. Not that that is necessarily a criticism.

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>it's a character builds up a spy network from owning whore houses episode
Do men really give away all their secret plans to prostitutes after sex? I wouldn't know.

>> No.13516802

>>13516241
whatever you do, skip Zoe’s Tale

>> No.13516872

>>13516743
Some women who are trying to get someone to reveal their secret plans can use sex as a weapon

>> No.13516958

>>13516647
i've been putting off reading the third body problem for a while now, is it really that good?

>> No.13516994

>>13516743
Women have uncanny abilities to get what they want. It could be as simple as giving you a certain look or sex. Don't underestimate the power women have over men.

>> No.13517128

>>13516958
Depends on how much you enjoy bugmen mentality

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>>13516743
Not necessarily. What you have there is, given the political and religious setting, a good blackmail scheme.
Soviet KGB used to use recorded sex with members of the Bolshoi Ballet (both male and female) as blackmail material.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kompromat
"In the 1950s, British civil servant John Vassall was a victim of a gay honey trap operation, producing kompromat which could be used against him since homosexuality was illegal in Britain at the time.[13] During a 1957 visit to Moscow, American journalist Joseph Alsop also fell victim to a gay honey trap operation conducted by the KGB.[14]

In 1997, Valentin Kovalyov [ru] was removed as the Russian Minister of Justice after photographs of him with prostitutes in a sauna controlled by the Solntsevskaya Bratva crime organization were published in a newspaper.[6] In 1999, a video aired with a man resembling Yury Skuratov in bed with two women that later would lead to his dismissal as Prosecutor General of Russia."

It goes on and on.

>> No.13517342

>>13515656
The sign of a healthy rational brain is to be transphobic

>> No.13517349

>>13517205
Stop posting boobs I hate boobs so much

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>>13517349
But all men love and cherish bewbs anon.

>> No.13517404

>>13512549
Sounds Interesting, guess I'll be reading that next thanks.

>> No.13517620

>>13517349
>hates boobs
ew wtf?

>> No.13517634

>>13517349
next you are telling me you are a footfag.
i can tolerate assfags. but not footfags.

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>>13517634
ass,hips & thighs > boobs

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Just finished book 3, definitely an improvement over book 2 which is nice because I love the setting and really wanted to keep going. He does some fantastic land battles in this novel.

Has anyone read all of these? I feel like it's an impossible task to be able to write enough for him to take Humanity back into space unless he starts skipping ahead in time.

>> No.13517794

>>13517776
if youre gonna save a doxy image dont save one for ants.

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>>13517776
I'd say based but you posted f*rshit so I don't know what to feel about you.

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What are the best Jewish writers of science fiction and fantasy?

>> No.13517874

>>13517794
Ripped it from google images.

>>13517795
>implying you wouldn't fuck that rabbit

>> No.13517882

>>13517874
You furry fucks really are hilarious little degenerates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp76cHN2FDU

>> No.13517942

>>13517882
If I'm a degenerate because disney, warner bros, cool world and a slew of others sexualized me to anthropomorphic animals at a young age, then I can't do anything about it.
I don't want to fuck someone in a fursuit, but if Judy Rabbit looked like that in real life I would do it. If i could do extraterrestrials, what is a rabbit?

>> No.13517946

>>13517801
How does anyone find this disgusting bitch attractive

>> No.13517971

>>13517946
How does anyone find [insert specific female here] attractive?

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>>13517942
And here comes the boilerplate "Its not my fault, it''s those damn cartoons" retardation.

>> No.13518090

>>13518074
yea im gonna need a jav code.
looks like looser bro forcing himself on his sis after getting jelly of chad talking to her.

>> No.13518162

>>13515671
Those are some big feet.

>> No.13518188

>>13516595
Don't ip range bans usually apply to everything, even posts and not just images?

>> No.13518191

>>13518074
Oh fuck off. The powerful survive. If I want to do, you can't stop me. You think your leaders aren't more degenerate?

Why are you projecting so much in the first place? What degeneracy do you partake in? Do you have sex with a woman who isn't your wife in positions that isn't missionary for reasons other than procreation? You sick degenerate fuck.

>> No.13518210

>I will protect those that I love
Writers that make their character say this same old shit line need to be put in front of a firing squad.

>> No.13518287

>>13511692
any other mature woman books yall could recommend? I'm downloading in bulk then binge reading.

>> No.13518337

>6.33 E
Fuck, the blind cunt is back. Time to take a break from reading.

>> No.13518556

>>13518287
Initially thought you were looking for books with a mature female protag who isn't just confused about which of the two Chads pursuing her she wants to fuck. Then I saw what you quoted and it's mommyfagism. Very disappointing.

>> No.13518561

>>13518188
Not anymore, apparently.

>> No.13518576

>>13518337
I usually wait for 10 chapters to amass and then read them all together. I can't believe this author churns out 2 chapters a week, and they are quite long (an hour usually). That's almost a 10 hours book every month.
I don't mind Laken but I hate Ryoka with a passion.

>> No.13518652

This might just be the autism talking and my own fantasizing talking, but is anyone else completely unable to relate to the shitty, generic, belligerent sexual tension driven love triangles that permeate fantasy (and everything else)?

Like, the issue is so bad and so pervasive that I'm pretty sure 90% of the people writing this shit have never formed a connection that didn't entirely depend on plugging genitalia into each other

>> No.13518659

>>13513214
Just finished this. Any other good cyberpunk satire out there?

>> No.13518678

>>13518659
Neuromancer

>> No.13518726

>>13518287
Shards of Honor and Barrayar features a mature woman protagonist. But her love interest is ~40 years old himself, so it's not even close to the /ss/ you're probably looking for.

>> No.13518855

Looking through the charts, there are a number of revised ones. It's obviously the same person, because I don't think many others would have a "GAY, RAPE, & INCEST" category. Apparently they're one and the same. Then seems to have been expanded with the DEGENERATE recs and also some other themes charts. I can't even tell if this a progression or two.

So, Dear Guy Who Is Making A Lot Of Charts, is your "Fantasy Guide" (which includes SF) separate from your "SFFG Suggestions" and your Modern Fantasy Recs V2, or are they a progression in 3 charts? It's difficult to tell because there's so much overlap.

There's a lot of overlap in a lot of these in general.

>> No.13519018

>>13518855
Gay, Rape, & Incest are my favorite punk-folk supergroup.

>> No.13519195

i recently met joe abercrombie and he was a pretty chill dude im thinking about reading a couple of his novels
what do we think of his work?

>> No.13519234

Opinions on Gunpowder mage and/or starship mage series?

>> No.13519237

>>13519195
Lucked out, you'd probably be facing assault charges right now if you had met him AFTER you had read his books.

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Can any anons recommend anything with same concept/feeling as pic related?

>> No.13519249

I saw Joe Abercrombie at a book store in London yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my browsing, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen copies of The Blade Itself in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the books and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each book and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>> No.13519267

>>13519234
>Gunpowder Mage
Do you mean the Powder Mage series? It's a series that has a lot of jumps in quality both up and down. Book 1 is decent but books 2&3 are pretty mediocre. The novellas in between are great. There's an on going sequel series and it's fantastic. I'd rate the first series a 3/5 just because of the novellas, if you ignore them it's probably a 2/5, the sequel series is 5/5. Overall it's fun but don't expect anything too deep.

>Starship Mage
Comfy space magic. If you're looking for decent space magic books you've found them. Starts going downhill after the first couple of books though, you can stop whenever you feel like it's getting worse without worrying that it might get better, it doesn't.

>> No.13519273

>>13519237
how bad can they be, the man bought me a beer too

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>>13519195
Abercrombie is well worth reading, especially The Heroes. There is one extremely autistic anon on here that screeches at the mention of his name, though. You can safely ignore that fag, as he reads chinkshit and litrpgs

>> No.13519312

>>13519293
Delete this, I've never read a single line of chinkshit or litrpg. Abercrombie is a shit writer.

>> No.13519487

What are the best scifi/fantasy books with male protagonists written by women? I want to get inside the female mind.

>> No.13519494

>>13519487
disregard women, only read male authors

>> No.13519498

>>13519487
>I want to get inside the female mind.
If you are trying to get into some female's pants you are doing it all wrong nigga.

>> No.13519624

>>13519312
Fuck off, chinkshitter

>> No.13519665

>>13519487
>I want to get in the female mind
Literally and figuratively impossible

>> No.13519757

>>13519487

What female mind?

>> No.13519771

>>13519757
The one that won't let him in.

>> No.13519826

>>13519487
Sci-fi: Terra Ignota
Fantasy: Jonathan Strange

>> No.13519837

what does sff think of The Day of the Triffids?

>> No.13519929

>>13517776
>I'm black lol
We know.

>> No.13519932

>>13519487
The Sword of Rhiannon

>> No.13519958

>>13519932
what an awful name for a fantasy novel

>> No.13520011

>>13519958
I'm glad it triggers you.

>> No.13520305

>>13517801
Off the top of my head:
Isaac Asimov, Robert Silverberg

>> No.13520323

>>13518337
>>13518576
I started reading it last week, is it weird that I usually look forward most to the characters gaining levels/skills?

>> No.13520361

>>13519241
Three Body Problem

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>>13519312

>> No.13520495

If you have bad taste you're not allowed past this point.

>>13520485
>>13520485
>>13520485
>>13520485

>> No.13520687

>>13511688

Only atheist and asians dont have souls anon.

>> No.13520763

>>13519273
Ignore the other retard, Abercrombie writes some good books. No, they aren't famous bestsellers that will go down in history like Lord of the Rings. But they are still good

>> No.13520835

>>13511752
Currently reading "The (not so) Dark Mage" series and I'm loving it. I usually dont like harem shit but I just finished book two and having so much fun

>> No.13520987

>>13520323
It's not, it's literally the best part because you feel the character actually grew and deserved those skills/levels. Volume 5 spoiler; Erin refusing to be a General was fucking cool

>> No.13521075

>>13520361
Thanks man

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