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Anonymous Mon Jul 22 15:16:10 2019 No.13510948 [Reply] [Original]

What was your favourite part?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 15:17:15 2019 No.13510957 >>13510948 porfiry's autistic monologues

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 15:20:22 2019 No.13510973 >>13510948 Reading Gospel of John by Sonia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 15:55:44 2019 No.13511134 >>13510948 the part where he does crime and is punished

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 15:56:32 2019 No.13511135 >>13510948 Svidrigailov's dreaming with an underage girl then going to America Marmeladov telling his story to Raskolnikov

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 15:59:58 2019 No.13511145 All of it after he put the old bitch 6 feet under.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 16:09:06 2019 No.13511186 I'd kill to have sex with Nastasya

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 16:40:54 2019 No.13511344 File: 3.05 MB, 976x816, Raskolnikov.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13510948 >Daily reminder that Raskolnikov did nothing wrong except turning himself in

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:13:11 2019 No.13511519 The dream, it was perfect

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:14:00 2019 No.13511526 >>13511344 true desu, this bummed me out the most.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:15:22 2019 No.13511535 >>13510948 when he says commies are cucks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:23:19 2019 No.13511568 >>13510948 I liked the part where Raskolnikov and Sonya are sitting on the bed talking about the bible and shit. Very dramatic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:27:24 2019 No.13511589 >>13511344 >>13511526 this book is for humans with feelings, not autistic robots like both of you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:16:21 2019 No.13512068 >>13510948 When that guy explains that being cucked is the most exciting and honorable thing in a relationship.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:21:53 2019 No.13512091 >>13511344 Why did I want Raskolnikov to be free and do well and bro it up with based Raz and I wanted the underground man to just die and fuck off even though he was innocent?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:26:31 2019 No.13512106 >>13511535 It's like history repeats itself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:29:19 2019 No.13512119 >>13511589 >implying freeing society from a parasite who fed on poor and miserable people isn't a good thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:30:23 2019 No.13512126 Svidrigailov best character

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:33:32 2019 No.13512140 >>13512119 It wasn't a good thing though, especially considering he killed two people. Multiple innocent people suffer throughout the novel because of his actions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:55:17 2019 No.13512223 When Raskolnikov nearly changes his mind before confessing shows it takes more napoleonic will than the original murder

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 20:05:57 2019 No.13512273 File: 71 KB, 1000x1000, cant.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13511135 >I'm going to America he was a piece of shit, but god damn this one got me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 20:07:23 2019 No.13512278 >>13511344 Dumb frogposter opinion, read the book again

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 20:09:57 2019 No.13512290 >>13510948 His every panicky post-murder thought and action seemed very real to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 20:24:25 2019 No.13512353 >>13510948 Watching the dumpster lid close after I tossed it in the trash

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 20:27:08 2019 No.13512369 File: 83 KB, 561x561, resilar tehotipat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13510948 Those feverdreamish walks around town

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:24:07 2019 No.13512582 >>13512119 the point of the book is that regardless of it being a good thing, the action is impossible for a sensible person to do without feeling guilty

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:27:44 2019 No.13512592 the fever dream stuff with Svidrigaïlov towards the end was really good. also loved the actual murder scene. Raskolnikov going to bars late at night by himself was also entertaining.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:36:09 2019 No.13512625 >>13512582 He felt guilty and remorse because of the unplanned murder of Lisaveta though, I believe that if he had only killed Alyona as premeditated he wouldn't torment himself throughout the book.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:36:35 2019 No.13512630 File: 3.10 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_20190720_121910604.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone tell me about gogol? Why does he put the dashes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:40:00 2019 No.13512641 I read some spoiler here that Rodya kills himself and I read the whole book thinking I was spoiled. Would have preferred that ending over the real one

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:44:24 2019 No.13512655
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>>13510948
When Sonya and Raskolnikov were reading the bible was beautiful, this line in particular, "The candle-end was flickering out in the battered candlestick, dimly lighting up in the poverty-stricken room the murderer and the harlot who had so strangely been reading together the eternal book." stuck with me.

The scene where Nikolay burst in the room and confessed before Raskolnikov was about to was seriously interesting

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:55:26 2019 No.13512695 >>13512625 hard to say for sure. the author said that he meant the book to be a critique of utilitarian thought, which he thought failed to take into consideration the human nature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:58:37 2019 No.13512706 >>13512641 Honestly I felt that's how it was going to end throughout most of the book. I guess it's meant to mean how true punishment can only be found in life, and death is the escape, hence the theme of suicide throughout the book

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 22:00:04 2019 No.13512714
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I need someone in my life to be honest with me. If I am having a hard time keeping track of names and relationships, am I too dumb for pic related? I haven't read anything but trashy sci-fi novels and I remember my Lithuanian grandpa saying this was one of his favorite books of all time.

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 22:04:53 2019 No.13512743

>>13512714
keep a piece of paper and a pen with you while you're reading. when a new character is introduced, write their name in the piece of paper and their relationship with another character. you could even make a family tree if it helps. so when you encounter them again in the book and you forgot, just quickly glance at your cheat sheet. its like taking notes while studyjng

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 00:45:41 2019 No.13513281 >>13512630 That's how it was originally written. For whatever reason, in Russia, they used to censor street names and locations when writing, but would keep the first or last letters so that people would still know what street they were writing about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 01:03:08 2019 No.13513330 The part shortly after the murder was pretty good, I also liked parts featuring razumichin, it's impossible not to like that guy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 01:05:49 2019 No.13513338 >>13510948 The part where I don't read trash books like what you posted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 01:05:52 2019 No.13513339 >>13510948 The murders

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 01:06:57 2019 No.13513342 The scene where he is looking at Razumihin and the latter learns he is guilty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 01:10:38 2019 No.13513351 >>13512714 >reading C&P in translation There's your mistake. I bet half the brainlets in this thread, if not more, don't even realize all the names are sort of puns that have meanings all their own.

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 01:17:44 2019 No.13513365

>>13513351
I read it in Slovak since it is my first language and is much closer to russian than English. I got some of the name puns but not all of them. I thought about learning russian to read Dostoyevsky, Solzhenitsyn, Tolstoy, etc. But I don't have time for that

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 02:36:53 2019 No.13513581

>>13512625
>He felt guilty and remorse because of the unplanned murder of Lisaveta though
But it is explicitly said he barely thinks of Lisaveta, that she doesn't really care about her. I thought the author went to great lenghts to make it clear the characters feelings where not caused by Lisaveta's murder.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 02:39:01 2019 No.13513586 >>13513351 >There's your mistake. I am not going to learn fucking Russian to read books anon.

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 02:39:25 2019 No.13513589

>>13512714
Learn how Russian names work and look at the list at the beginning of the book if you get confused. Honestly it's easier to remember character names when they're as memorable as Dostoyevsky's characters, just takes a small amount of practice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 02:41:05 2019 No.13513595 >>13510948 Sonia convincing Raskolnikov to confess. I enjoyed the relationship between Raskolnikov's sister and his friend. I liked how the socialist cuck guy monologues.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 02:59:17 2019 No.13513643 >>13511344 >>13511526 You missed the point of the book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 05:44:01 2019 No.13513989 >>13510948 When Rhazmukin did got drunk and confessed his love for that girl.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 05:44:59 2019 No.13513990 >>13513643 enlighten us, faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 05:50:26 2019 No.13514001 >>13513990 literally read the book, Dostoyevsky isn't exactly subtle

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 05:56:16 2019 No.13514015 >>13511344 >>13513990 If the book impacted you this way, you’re truely a sick fucking person

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 06:02:02 2019 No.13514024 >>13514001 but i did? he could have committed the perfect crime and live a comfy life but he had to sperg out and brag about his crime to the wrong people and eventually cucked out only to end up in jail instead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 06:06:34 2019 No.13514032 >>13514024 Even if he didn't "sperg out", Porfiry would've find out about it anyways.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 06:11:47 2019 No.13514056 >>13514045 Porfiry and Zamyotov literally knew about it before Rodion started talking

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 06:12:27 2019 No.13514057 >>13510973 Me too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 06:13:40 2019 No.13514060 >>13514056 but they had no real proof.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 06:18:43 2019 No.13514071 File: 42 KB, 334x506, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13514015 A bit too emotional, aren't we?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 06:58:32 2019 No.13514198 >>13514060 They would have tortured him until he confessed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 07:10:36 2019 No.13514245 >>13511535 lmao, truly a visionary

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 08:25:45 2019 No.13514489 >>13510948 When Rodja is being questioned by that police officer or whatever he was, and you constantly get the feeling the cop knows more than he's letting you in on. Great scene/scenes!

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