/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13510521]

I feel so left behind and feel like I am wasting my life. I am 20 years old and living with my mom, I commute to school to do my English degree and have no ambitions or aspirations once I get out of school, I still cant drive, Ive never had a job, never been in an relationship and had sex, lost contact with all my friends from highschool and have been alone and lonely for 3 years, nwver made a friend and dont talk to anyone in college it is hard for me to find someone to connect with. I feel so lonely and want people in my life but at the same time I feel like I want to get away from everyone and everything. Whenever I meet someone I dont want them getting close to me something is wrong with me. I want someone to be close to but I push everyone away feeling that I have no connection with them and that we will never understand each other. Literature 4 this feel?

[Anonymous No.13510527]

>>13510521
You have anal fixation

[Anonymous No.13510547]

>>13510521
Stop hating yourself.

[Anonymous No.13510566]

Make internet friends

[Anonymous No.13510582]

>>13510521
Is this a prequel to Londonfrog's work ?

[Anonymous No.13510586]

>>13510521
Wait until you're almost 25. I'm turning 25 in about 3 months and man, it's awful

[Anonymous No.13510600]

It doesnt get better anon. You make things better or it stays the same

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13510633]

>>13510521
Cancel the internet. Go out and find friends and all the rest. You’ve left yourself behind by rooting yourself where you are. Get up and start.

And throw the pepes out

[Anonymous No.13510641]

You sound schizoid m8. Talk to a professional, posting here will not help you.

[Anonymous No.13510649]

>>13510521
Get your driving lesson, it's relatively easy depending on where you live.Start working out for at least 2 months, after that you will most likely get hooked, it will improve your mood and raise your test.Better food can also keep you more motivated and energetic.Also try finding some basic part-time job so you can at least some independence from your mother, especially if she is overprotective.

[Anonymous No.13510692]

Notes from Underground

[Anonymous No.13510699]

>>13510649
Ive been working out for three years and have a nice body but it doesnt really do anything for me
>>13510566
how?

[Anonymous No.13510701]

>>13510521
I'm in the same position but I'm 23.

[Anonymous No.13510703]

>>13510699
Do you get enough sun exposure?

[Anonymous No.13510781]

>Whenever I meet someone I dont want them getting close to me something is wrong with me.

This is your only real problem and which will take tons of work to get out of. The rest is typical early adult aimlessness which is pretty much a generational experience at this point. If you manage to make friends you will find plenty of people more or less like you.

As a 28 yo man who still goes through avoidance problems I don't really have any tips beyond trying to get into IRL spaces with people, accepting the fact that you will never find someone who is exactly like you and liking other people and being interested in them despite all this. Maybe join a hobby group or something, at least you will have something in common with the other people there. Just try to fight the initial feeling that other people don't get you, often this is 100% in your head and/or just a problem in communication, not cognitive abilities. Also remember that you don't have to get super close to anyone instantly and it's ok to take things slow.

[Anonymous No.13510875]

>>13510703
I guess

[Anonymous No.13510927]

Start volunteering somewhere every week. I’ve been volunteering with a soup kitchen every week for 2 years and grew a small circle of actual friends from it. Go hang out with some cats at the animal shelter, or help pick up garbage at the park. Just make sure you do it *every* week and be consistent about it.

[Anonymous No.13510936]

>>13510699
Get on philosophy discord and debate w ppl, you'll make friends quickly ppl ull want to talk to everyday

[Anonymous No.13510945]

>>13510521
29 here, same feels as you since i was 15 or so.
i would have forced myself to do things and to go see people and to invite people to things even if they don't invite me if i could go back.

shit sux

[Anonymous No.13510965]

>>13510521
>ah-bloo-bloo
you're still a baby. you literally have your whole life ahead of you. quit crying like a little bitch.

[Anonymous No.13510975]

>>13510965
When do you stop being a baby?

[Anonymous No.13510986]

>>13510975
when you stop babyposting on the 4channel

[Anonymous No.13510987]

>>13510975
After you have sex

[Anonymous No.13510996]

>>13510975
plz no bully

[Anonymous No.13511019]

>>13510965
plz no bully. im becoming sick of living any longer I just want someone that I can be close to.

[Anonymous No.13511023]

>>13510641
no need for gaslighting without any proof, it'll do more harm than good. You start believing things about yourself that probably aren't even true, and your life goes to shit because you've created a disorder that you start projecting every failure/inconvenience onto. Trust me, I have experience with that sorta stuff.

>>13510521
I'm lucky to have passed my driving test already, before I realized how much I actually hated doing it, and before I become so undisciplined. Otherwise I'm in the same situation OP.
Do you have very specific interests/talents? That might explain the difficulty finding friends. At least it was like that for me. The things I was doing were too far fetched for anyone to understand what I was going on about. i.e. making electronic music (idm). Because that music and all the movies I watch/books I read are so fundamentally individualistic, I can never share it with anyone else. But at the same time, it's all I'm passionate about, and all I'm talented at.
I feel miserable doing anything else, so I don't. I've come to accept I'm never gonna have many friends. At least I have some people to talk to, and on sites like these I come across many like-minded people who I feel genuine empathy towards.
It's really about people who are in the same place mentally as you are. Take this with a grain of salt, but maybe you are genetically predisposed to have a rare set of mental characteristics. People feel like they're not on the same mental wavelength as you, and vice versa.
Again, this is purely personal experience, take it with a grain of salt. Just some food for thought.

[Anonymous No.13511028]

>>13511019
Try discord fren c:
Also I didn't get my license until I was 26 and ppl are getting theirs later, it's not 80s anymore

[Anonymous No.13511048]

>>13510521
>I feel so left behind and feel like I am wasting my life

Then make today the first day you don't waste your life. People think they need to strike big and make vast leaps and bounds without realizing the journey of a thousand paces begins with one. Everything is cumulative. Begin today and stop succumbing to pessimism.

[Anonymous No.13511063]

>>13511028
I have 1 discord fren that I talk to that I watch anime with and read books with sometimes he is a sad person like me and we get along. Ive never been able to do discord groups, my experience with them is that I just stalk the chat having nothing to add and not knowing what to say making me more depressed seeing people socialize and being unable to talk making me feel more alone.

[Anonymous No.13511098]

>>13511063
download signal and post your phone number

[Anonymous No.13511106]

>>13511063
what are you into regarding books? do you play vidya? do you listen to music? do you watch anything other than anime?

[Anonymous No.13511113]

>>13511063
U talk here, go to a discord with lit or philosophy and start debating the first person there, I used to be socially retarded but I can always fall back on debating

[Anonymous No.13511180]

>>13510521
>He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

[Anonymous No.13511205]

>>13511106
I am very underread and of average intelligence but regarding writers I like I am a fan of Pessoa, Bernhard, Kawabata, Beckett, Salinger, Chekhov and I havent read much of them but I liked and plan to read more from Proust, Cioran, Perec, Calvino. But yeah I need to read more.
I dont really play vidya. I mostly played Mabinogi when I was younger and some normie games like LoL but that has stopped. I havent watched much but sometimes I watch films once in a while but yeah I mostly watch anime. As for music I listen to some but as of the last year or so I havent that much and havent really been looking for anything new to listen to. I like and have listened to some classical, some techno, some jazz, 80s-90s pop and city pop and anime osts. I listened to a lot of hip hop in the past but dont really feel like listening to more, memphis rap is based though.
>>13511113
Where can I find /lit/ discords?
>>13511098
I will think about it because im not really familiar with it. I have stuff like goodreads, rym, letterboxd, and mal though if you want to add me there.

[Anonymous No.13511222]

>>13511205
https://disboard.org/servers/tag/literature

The philosophy ones aren't bad at all
https://disboard.org/servers/tag/philosophy

[Anonymous No.13511234]

>>13510521
Now I have to admit that I couldn't read at all, and I guess your problem is something full of crap.

Get in the shower and sleep. To work tomorrow. No further advice.

[Anonymous No.13511237]

Watch Evangelion

[Anonymous No.13511252]

>>13511205
post your mal fren

[Anonymous No.13511253]

>>13511205
that's not very underread, that's way more than the average /lit/ poster has read I'd imagine. keep doing your thing, we all have to do the same. if i read these posts you seem more than capable enough of constructing an argument/opinion/interaction. At this point it's a matter of choosing to direct your energy into conversations, instead of consuming media. Not as easy as that, I know, i really know ,but that's all I have. There's no magic trick to teach, just that advice, take it however you see fit.

[Anonymous No.13511259]

>>13511253
*when i read..

[Anonymous No.13511276]

>>13511252
https://myanimelist.net/profile/Murau

[Anonymous No.13511282]

>>13510586
This.

OP, being 20 is babby mode.

[Anonymous No.13511330]

>>13511237
I have desu

[Anonymous No.13511347]

>>13511276
you aren't telling me you've watched every film, listened to all the music, and read every book on those lists. That's just ridiculous, you really have to be inside consuming stuff 16 hours a day. go outside man.

[Anonymous No.13511354]

I'm (You) but much older. it's been the same since I was a teenager too
all I can say I have learned is, do something or things will remain exactly the same
we're not all gonna make it but I believe in you bud

[Anonymous No.13511364]

>>13511347
Huh? That's not even that much I've seen others have far more.

[Anonymous No.13511388]

>>13510521
exact same setup and position for me except that im turning 23 soon
it gets harder exponentially anon

[Anonymous No.13511389]

>>13510521
I and many others are in the same boat. It's as if the conditions of current society allow people to be alienated. My dad and his friends all grew up in rural villages in SE Europe. He had to interact with people all the time for food, supplies, work, etc. They didn't even have electricity until the mid 70s. No computer, nothing to do in the house. Every day was spent outdoors unless it was winter when they did get electricity, the lights always went out when night fell and everyone would get up early. Then some went to work in factories, most plowed fields, they had more vacation time than I get for being a wagie here, etc. It wasn't a utopia, but the thought of having to interact with many people all the time is kind of frightening to me, but also liberating. You couldn't really be a shut-in in that environment, not unless you really, really went out of your way to do so. My life is the complete opposite. I wagie, come home, wagie, come home, repeat. I wish I could go back just a mere 30-40 years.

[Anonymous No.13511408]

>>13510521
hey you're like me except that I'm starting on my English degree next month I'm 21 anyway

[Anonymous No.13511414]

>>13511389
How old are you anon? What do you work as?

[Anonymous No.13511417]

>>13510586
I’m 29 ama

[Anonymous No.13511424]

>>13510521
Go to /r9k/.
They can (not) help you. We discuss literature here. No place for this

[Anonymous No.13511449]

>>13511414
24, construction

[Anonymous No.13511515]

>>13511449
Is construction worth getting into?

[Anonymous No.13511647]

>>13511424
I would prefer to fuck Zizek.

[Anonymous No.13511653]

>>13511364
He's right though man, unfortunately that is a hell of a lot of anime to watch. And generally anime is of really poor quality. I imagine maybe 70 max of the 311 you've watched have felt substantial to you. People with that many completed animes or more just use it as a timesink and to escape.

But regarding your situation, I understand. In fact, I'm the exact same.

[Anonymous No.13511681]

>>13510521
You're only 20. It's not too late to change.

[Anonymous No.13511712]

>>13511515
There is a lot of construction work here in the Midwest. I mainly do upkeep work on commercial plazas, medical buildings, homes, etc. Shit like waterproofing, fixing cracked concrete, improving aesthetics, etc. It doesn't sound like it pays much but it does. I'm overflowing with work atm. I'd say your best bet is to find something you're interested in doing and can do. Work under someone until you learn and then go your own way. They'll bitch as they always do because they want a drone to boss around. I worked for an Italian contractor for a long time. He'd find jobs, do no work himself, give me like $200 per day, and then charge the people we're working for a lot more. I'm getting around $500-700 in "wages" for my co-worker and I and an additional $200 or so in business profit per day on my own. Find something you can do and learn it. Ask around. I LARPed as a plaza owner and would call competitors to come and give me estimates for the work I do to see how much I could get away with charging at first. You will make it if you put in the effort. Don't be afraid to call around and ask for work. You can just hop on Craigslist. Also don't be a faggot when negotiating. Just be a yesman, seriously. Do small favors, don't charge for every single tiny thing, etc. It's better to build relationships and keep them for constant work than it is to argue over a petty $100.

[Anonymous No.13511745]

>>13510582
underrated

[Anonymous No.13511749]

>>13511653
it really isnt that much :/

[Anonymous No.13511766]

>>13510521
Anon. There is one answer, and only one answer. It is very hard to hear. Nobody who feels like you ever wants to listen to it. It goes against everything the past four generations have been taught. It sounds stupid. It sounds dangerous. It sounds gay. It sounds lame. But understand, this is not some blind reading. Social media has intentionally made people this way. It's been measured in multiple behavioral and neurological studies. If you read The Stranger, or watch Symbiopsychotaxiplasm, you will begin to understand. Or else pay very close, but objective attention to Jesse Eisenberg's performance of Zuckerberg in The Social Network. The simple truth is--you're a self-loathing narcissist. Most people will try and tell you things to stop being so self-loathing. That's where they fail. You need to stop being a narcissist. Stop thinking about yourself. Stop psycho-analyzing yourself. Stop wondering where it all went wrong. Stop thinking about how you feel, and start paying attention to other people. Take this literally. Start paying attention to what clothes people are wearing. Pay attention the the mood other people seem to be in. Listen to what problems they seem to be having, and instead of giving advice, ask questions about it. Pay attention to the weather. Read the local news. Watch one of the sports teams in your town, not to care, but just to have something to talk about with strangers. See if there's people you keep seeing at school, who look familiar, but you have never had the chance to talk to. Try to have a normal, non-academic conversation with one of your professors. Consider the very real possibility that other people are just as absorbed in their own problems as you are. Whenever you notice your thoughts turning inward, use just about any possible tactic you can to turn your thoughts back out into the world. Stop thinking so much about yourself.

[Anonymous No.13511784]

>>13510641
Isn't necessarily, I'm shizoid and don't even wan to connect with others.

[Anonymous No.13511868]

>>13511784
diagnosed?

[Anonymous No.13511937]

>>13511766
yeah, i'm a narc for sure. the amount of introspection, self help, spiritual lit and idiosyncratic art I've gone through is pretty ridiculous. In the end it's all to make me feel good about myself. I've noticed that when I look truly deep down, I often don't give a fuck about anyone else. i don't wanna work to improve the world, but do feel a sense of oneness surrounding ecology and globalization. I am happiest when I'm indulging in the pursuit of goals I set for myself though, free from outside responsibility, or the judgemental eyes of any other person.
I can't be social in real life, human interaction makes me uncomfortable to my core. It always feels fake, there's never a genuine connection. The only way to truly feel this connection for me is through the individual creation and consumption of art.
I give most when I'm at my most self-centered, strangely enough.

[Anonymous No.13511975]

>>13511937
actually, I don't think I'm that self-centered most of the time, as I'm often really empathic as well. I just need the right person to relate to, someone who I sense to be genuine and honest with themselves. Then again, I've befriended many true narcs and autists in the past as well. I don't understand myself, is what I'll leave it at. The empathy I experience is genuine, but there are moments where I seem to lack any trace of it.

[Anonymous No.13511976]

>>13510521
I hate pepe and wojak but how come I empathize so much with apu?

[Anonymous No.13512049]

>>13511766
Idk I dont think I am that much of a narcissist at least most of the time. I dont talk much about myself usually.

[Anonymous No.13512146]

>29KHV
>Never worked
>No friends
>Can't really connect with people, no real desire to
>Have sexual thoughts but never act on them, despite wanting (i think) sex, i've never actually tried
>Finally got diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder

I don't know if I will ever have any kinda of success in life, but it nice to understand what I am at last, I just wish it would have happened at 16-20 years old or something, not 29.

[Anonymous No.13512176]

>>13510781
this

[Anonymous No.13512180]

>DURRR I am diagnosed with this special snowflake disorder durrrr
What a dumb culture. There is nothing wrong "deep inside" you guys it is the brainless narcissistic and alienating system and culture of today that makes most of yoy feel this way.

[Anonymous No.13512224]

>>13511976
he speaks to the innocent child in all of us

[Anonymous No.13512262]

>>13511937
>>13511975
>>13512049
>i
>i
>i
No questions. No alternative. Just endless introspection. You can't define yourself except by coming into contact with others. Stop looking inward. It's a terrible, terrible, terrible meme. It will led you to suicide. You can't feel love unless you give love.

[Anonymous No.13512464]

>>13512262
But the whole of contemporary culture is full of tastelessness and narcissism it is difficult for non-normalfags to interact with people on any meaningful level

[Anonymous No.13512482]

>>13510521
Where's your dad? That might be why. No father figure. You need to find an older male mentor for guidance. Look for a part time job or apprenticeship and learn a trade. You need to be around men to learn to be a man.

[Anonymous No.13512509]

>>13512482
I dont really have issues with my masculinity having a "father figure" is something that doesnt really matter to me.

[Anonymous No.13512525]

>>13510692
This a thousand times, OP

[Anonymous No.13512567]

>>13510521
Your blog post reads like a Linkin Park song.

[Anonymous No.13512855]

Sounds like me. I want out of this but I hate everyone around me.

[Anonymous No.13512921]

God stop whining you self indulgent dingus, get on with your life idiot.

Not one of us ends up where we planned.

[Anonymous No.13512972]

>>13510521
Read self-development/self-transformation genre. Oh, and actually DO the shit they tell you to do. You're not going to feel good right away, keep at it, it's going to be an ongoing process. Start replacing bad habits with good habits. Google "David DeAngelo on being a man" and get the program if you can. There are torrents out there I believe. This is the best advice you're going to get ITT and if you don't get your shit together you'll be writing the same post in 5 years.

[Anonymous No.13512979]

>>13511063
You need to stop being so beta and let destiny violate your orifices

[Anonymous No.13513068]

>>13511766
Not OP, but thanks for this post, it really got me thinking.

It's easy to dismiss narcissism when you're self-loathing, you think "how can I be a narcissist when I hate myself?" but this is true, I think of myself all the time, and I lie constantly to myself and others, to the point where I've fooled myself. I'm a narcissistic, self-loathing liar.

[Anonymous No.13513117]

>>13510521
I'm the same, OP. 22, graduated from uni with two meme degrees. Live with my mom, grandmother and sister. Never had a father figure. I do have my license but no functioning car, not that I'd want to go anywhere anyways. All work seems pointless to me and I don't have any drive to make money. Don't care about women and don't want children. I read 2-3 hours a day then waste the rest of my day on the internet. I repeat this knowing I'm wasting my life away. I have no friends and no serious desire to make friends. I don't have a serious religious/spiritual life (though I'd like to, just don't know where to start). My life is flying by seamlessly with nothing to differentiate one day from the next. I'll probably become a wagecuck soon (because I have student loan debt though nothing major) and waste more of life because I don't want to go to grad school or join the military and my degrees really don't offer me any work. I guess this is just "ennui." This is the life of a modern man with nothing to do really. It sucks.

[Anonymous No.13513126]

>>13510521
YHIKEEEZSASSSSSXGDUSJSJSJDJFUDOAOWMFOCPSOAKS
OOO HUR HUR HUR DUR DUR

[Anonymous No.13513138]

>>13510692
This book just made me a more peaceful driver

[Anonymous No.13513184]

>>13510521
Read the Bible, follow Christ

[Anonymous No.13513318]

>>13511766
You must be either really into DFW’s work and/or are reading something of his because the wording and prose style is all there. David would be proud

[Anonymous No.13513331]

>>13510521
The secret to doing things is to do them. Nothing else will supplant this fact. I'm nearing 28 and only just now realizing this. I used to be you. You will become me, unless you change. Do not become me, anon.

[Anonymous No.13513341]

>>13513331
>The secret to doing things is to do them.
wow I see now anon, thank you

[Anonymous No.13513510]

>>13511766

He's right, you know. Self-hate, self-pity, it's all camouflage narcissism that's more obnoxious for its insincerity. At least the egocentric who says confidently "I'm number one, and it's all about me" is showing his real face.

I think the only way out of this is a conscious devotion to either serving others or building something. Not building "yourself," either -- pouring your energy into an external artifact, whether that be a painting, a story, a company, a literal structure, etc. You have to bypass the vicious masturbatory cycle.

[Anonymous No.13513513]

>>13511766
>>13512262

Truly awful thinking.

[Anonymous No.13513523]

>>13510692
What translation or does it matter

[Anonymous No.13513536]

>>13513523
p&v

[Anonymous No.13513537]

>>13513513

They're right. Except for "you can't define yourself without contact with others." You don't necessarily need other people, but you do need OTHER. The conception that one is living a life-sans-connection, the idea that you are ineluctably isolated, is synonymous with spiritual death. A hermit with conviction in his link to the world surrounding can be more vital and hale than a big city socialite who feels separate from his friends.

[Anonymous No.13513547]

>>13510521
>I am 20 years old and living with my mom

bruh this isn't 1970 people don't just move out at 18 anymore and a lot of the ones that do are dumb, burning $$$ on rent

a buddy of mine just bought a house at 27 after living with his parents until then.

[Anonymous No.13513568]

>>13513331
oh anon, be strong. not all is yet lost.

>>13510521
I hate to say op, I really, really do... but I think you need some JBP in your life. preferably the bible lectures.

[Anonymous No.13513590]

>>13510521
Relax and let this take you, when you get up tomorrow, you’ll talk to this girl you’ve been seeing lately, your curiosity will propel you and you will never return to 4chan

[Anonymous No.13513630]

>>13510527
freud.. easy on the pseudoscience

[Anonymous No.13513741]

this thread is proof that websites like this are nothing but echo chambers of sadness.
we're a bunch of sad people making eachother sadder, and the more time we spend in places like this, the more we give up, the more we seem to notice that everyone around us is deeply unhappy as well, that many have it much worse, that maybe there is no way out and that maybe that's alright. happiness seems like nothing but a meme.
and the first thing you need is to realise it isn't. that this environment we've made has convinced us of certainties that are only certain to sad people.
and this can't be done in the same place that made us feel fine with these feelings. it's like going to your dealer to get clean.

[Anonymous No.13514295]

>>13510521
I'm 22 and like this. It's like being paralysed. I want to do things but everything ends up in failure which discourages and sends me back where I was. The only thing that has helped is Christianity but that hasn't really changed my behaviour. It seems impossible to change how I act.

[Anonymous No.13514302]

>>13510582
Kek

>>13510781
Solid advice. As a fellow 28 years old with avoidance problems I second this. It'll never feel "exactly right" (or almost never) that's life. But you can still have a working relationship with the world.

[Anonymous No.13514335]

>>13510521
>4chan was probably the start to OP's personal problems
>OP goes on 4chan to post about personal problems
Eh, Cliched. Try something different, like your life as well. You're not left behind. You're left, then right, then going in an infinite loop because you'll always be stuck on your godforsaken problems until your infinite death.
"nwver"

[Anonymous No.13515192]

How can I find someone I like? I hate everyone around me but I dont blame the people this whole culture is garbage.

[Anonymous No.13515613]

>>13513513
Can you explain why it's awful, or does it simply challenge your cognitive dissonance?

[Anonymous No.13515616]

>>13513068
it's even in your reply.

[Anonymous No.13515619]

>>13512464
You read what you want to read and hear what you want to hear. The world is much bigger than the newspaper will let you see.

[Anonymous No.13515644]

>>13510521
if you want to make friends start volunteering, it's a great way to build your social network

[Anonymous No.13515925]

Im with you op I'm 21. How do I go about being a more independant person and have a drive to do things? Ive been relying too much on my parents and have troubke doing things on my own and I tend to waste away my days to much having trouble getting out of bed and watching anime and reading all day not really interested in doing anything else.

[Anonymous No.13515986]

>>13510936
what is this philosophy discord of which you speak

[Anonymous No.13515992]

>>13510641
>>13511766
pseudo-scientific wikipedia diagnosis bullshit

[Anonymous No.13516008]

>>13515992
Psychology is a pseudo-science to begin with.

[Anonymous No.13516015]

I miss university so much bros. My life was reading and socializing and wandering the streets in introspection feeling the entire world opening up before me. I could get absolutely lost in my studies, and every week I was making new friends. It was so pure.

[Anonymous No.13516031]

>>13515192
exactly, the way people act is simply a symptom of the almost pathological nature of the current western capitalist system. They've grown up in it, and thus don't know any better. Most people don't wanna kill their self and start to build it back up again, so they will most likely stay within this frame of thinking for the rest of their lives. This fills me with such sadness, it's hard to describe. All those lives wasted on useless vanities

[Anonymous No.13516049]

>>13516015
tfw never made any friends in uni :(
how the hell am i supposed ti neet new friends now?

[Anonymous No.13516061]

I know people in their 30's with the same problem except no school, and a job they hate. Get over yourself.

[Anonymous No.13516063]

>>13516031
And people aren't dumb either. I know plenty of people more successful and intelligent than me who are completely caught up in vanity. Their entire value structure has been built around these ephemera. Without interference from their parents, the internet has destroyed their minds. Or maybe they're just not so emotionally and aesthetically sensitive as me, that's also a possibility of course.

[Anonymous No.13516072]

>>13516049
No idea. It turns out the uni friends were only uni friends and I have seen almost nothing of any of them since. It was an illusion of having social support maybe.

[Anonymous No.13516073]

>>13511180

So based it hurts

[Anonymous No.13516081]

>>13516072
How are you doing now anon? Could it be that you just failed to keep in touch?

[Anonymous No.13516104]

>>13516081
It could be. But with the shared experiences of university life gone it felt like there was little to keep in touch for. I'm working an entry level job I don't like but can put up with. I spend my free time reading but I get very lonely and the literary world feels further away. I am afraid of losing my love of literature because without it I would have nothing. Meanwhile I feel my youth escaping me. Most days I am contented, but when I give my life any thought I realize this is not what I want out of life, but with work I don't have the time or energy to want to change.

[Anonymous No.13516128]

>>13516104
Where are you working anon?

[Anonymous No.13516254]

>>13515613
>You can't define yourself except by coming into contact with others
>You can't feel love unless you give love.

Categorically wrong statements.

[Anonymous No.13516264]

>>13510521
time to drop out of school

get in a fight

get some friends that party

and you will wish you were back in this position again

[Anonymous No.13516279]

>>13516061
>no friends
>don't talk to anyone

>I know people like this
lol, are "they" you?

[Anonymous No.13516309]

>>13510521
Go to church, join the young adult group.

[Anonymous No.13516452]

>>13511766
>Pay attention to the weather. Read the local news.

dimwit advice

[Anonymous No.13516474]

>>13516254
Do you even know what categorically means?

[Anonymous No.13516515]

>>13516452
You do realize that for those involved in politics, national news is local news. They read it because it directly impacts them. There is hardly anything more dimwit than obsessing over things that you can't control, that you can't influence, that will have little immediate impact on your life, and that you have no way of verifying or placing in proper context. In fact, the wide publication of daily government action has been a detriment to the US system of governance, which was originally designed to be run by a professional class of lawmakers and statesmen. Today, the vast majority of news has little to no bearing on actual events, but exists only to generate public attention for short term political needs. When people pay more attention to their surroundings and are more invested in local politics, the whole nation works better.

[Anonymous No.13516530]

>>13516309
> muh christcuck cope
Yikes. As if churches need more people with shallow faiths that join these things because "it's what you do" or because they want a "cute based conservative trad gf" or some such nonsense.

[Anonymous No.13516628]

>>13513510
>>13511766
You TLP niggers can't even back up the shit you claim.

[Anonymous No.13516658]

>>13510521
just become a magical wizard

[Anonymous No.13516663]

>>13516628
What's TLP?

[Anonymous No.13516671]

>>13516530
Honestly, whatever brings you to church is good. You'll either come to a true faith or leave. I'd rather someone come for the wrong reasons than never come at all.

[Anonymous No.13516725]

>>13516663
The Last Psychiatrist. There are a few posters here that are clearly parroting his ''solution'' to the ''problem'' he has determined has affected the modern world, but specifically and intensely, the USA.

[Anonymous No.13516776]

>>13516725
funny. I'm the one who posted the big block. I've never heard of the last psychiatrist. My post really had nothing to do with the USA, and the advice comes entirely from my own experience of being suicidal, having a professional diagnosis of PTSD and social anxiety, having meds, having many friends attempt and some succeed, self medicating for years with marijuana and drinking, metal music, minimalism, psychedelic music and films, a shit tier degree. I read self-help. I read psychology and psychoanalysis of every stripe. I'd read philosophy. It was all low-tier of course, but that's all you can manage when you're a narcissist. But I crawled out. I'm no longer depressed, I have no symptoms of social anxiety or generalized anxiety. I've improved my posture. I've lost about 40 lbs. And I've found a genuine faith in God. Maybe you don't know as much as you think you do, and your experience on the internet is only a fraction of what exists beyond it.

[Anonymous No.13516818]

>>13516776
A reasonable assumption based on what you posted, and based on TLP's influence here, but sure my mistake.

[Anonymous No.13516878]

>>13511766
What's wrong with being a narcissist? Gotta look out for number 1, since nobody else will. And besides, if I take care of myself and also improve then I'll be able to help out society more. I can't seem to care about what other people do or think because It's not what i'm interested in, nothing wrong with that is there? I'll help whatever cause I deem worthy of helping, and that's the same as everyone else does. What you're offering for OP is similar to telling him to start running before he can even crawl. He's gotta improve himself before he puts himself out there in the open.

[Anonymous No.13516921]

Same but I have a couple of friends and I live alone. Start doing physical training of some sort and just get productive with your time. Meditate every day Work on some creative project. That's what I do. If I never get anywhere I can at least say I didn't waste my time doing nothing.
My feels go out to you. Having no friends at all is awful. Start going on Discords and making friends online maybe. Face to face is impossible in this day and age.

[Anonymous No.13517061]

>>13510521
Mens sana in corpore sano

I'd be surprised that anyone would feel healthy sitting in front of a computer all day and night, hardly getting some good sleep, and eating take aways or frozen food meanwhile. Try getting some exercise, just start with taking a walk every day if you dont feel like anything else. Start eating real food and make some preparations to get a good night of sleep. You'll feel better after a while and might even feel more outgoing. At least you'll have the energy to deal with your problems.

[Anonymous No.13517082]

>>13517061
Ive been lifting for 3 years and usually get 7-9 hours of sleep each night :/

[Anonymous No.13517085]

>>13511766
This is eye opening, thank you.

[Anonymous No.13517183]

>>13516264
this

[Anonymous No.13517238]

>>13516264
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.13517291]

>>13517082
good job man. It always surprises me common it is to overlook this. You're not gonna function well if you dont get good food in or misuse youre body. No wonder many people are depressed. That and late stage capitapism ofc.

[Anonymous No.13517426]

>>13517291
But im still depressed

[Anonymous No.13517984]

Self awareness is a parasite. We are islands separated by an unfathomable dark sea. The representation we have of others is just a vague outline modified by our own desires and preconceptions. You are the whole universe, you have been thrown into the world with nothing but yourself. Nothing feels real.

[Anonymous No.13518014]

>>13517984
Would you prefer we converge?

[Anonymous No.13518152]

>>13511766
>Stop thinking so much about yourself.

You're right this does sound pretty stupid/dangerous/gay/lame as well as anti intellectual. I am a narcissist, but narcissism is not taking it far enough, I am an egoist too, I am the ubermensch, and you are but another snake to crush beneath my boot.

[Anonymous No.13518221]

>>13518014
I don't know, I just feel utterly disconnected to everything

[Anonymous No.13518241]

>>13516725

I'm the other guy. Yeah, I have actually seen that blog before but my post comes from observation of a mentally ill ex. When you're emotionally intimate long enough with someone of that stripe you begin to notice something is not quite right; they don't speak in good faith as you once assumed -- though undeniably miserable there is a part of them that revels in it, almost as if they're trapped in a story about themself they've been unconsciously spinning since adolescence. I imagine the inside of their mind is somewhat akin to a funhouse mirror room -- self-reflection everywhere, all distorted.

[Anonymous No.13518251]

>>13510521
youre really young man. dont worry so much

[Anonymous No.13518273]

>>13518221
I would prefer we converge.

[Anonymous No.13518274]

>>13510521
Why the fuck is this thread still up, on god bro

[Anonymous No.13518349]

>>13517238
>>13516264

Yeah, please elaborate on this. I'm curious.

[Anonymous No.13518370]

>>13513318
no he wouldnt lol u dumb bitch

[Anonymous No.13518575]

>>13516878
If you're constantly waiting until you are better, you will never be better

[Anonymous No.13518583]

>>13518152
Life is more than a metaphor dude. You can't even touch me

[Anonymous No.13518608]

>>13511647
kek

[Anonymous No.13518684]

24 years old NEET here. Unlike some of you anons I do have friends, but the problem is I hate going out with them. It's great fun when we take walks and talk, but going out to movies/bars/restaurants/malls feels like a real chore. Also I meet girls but they all seem degenerate so I don't pursue relationships, nor do I feel the need to. Is it bad that I'm content with this lifestyle?

[Anonymous No.13518697]

>>13518684
>Is it bad that I'm content with this lifestyle?
No but arent you worried about getting to 40 and regretting how you lived your whole life?

[Anonymous No.13518710]

>>13518697

>he doesn't know the essence of philosophy

[Anonymous No.13518760]

>>13518697
I'm not sure anon. Whenever an opportunity arises, that I think I might regret if I don't take, I find that in taking it there is usually no great boon. Last week I was invited to a party and found a bunch of likeminded people to talk with, but we could have done that anywhere else. I don't regret going, but I wouldn't have regretted not going either

[Anonymous No.13518765]

>>13510582
Just a reminder that the links to LondonFrog's compiled posts are here. There are currently two volumes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/141EoOrzARPgUPsaO3wdJFOOV_iBl1Ftg9IQTeBgl7uk/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.13518993]

>>13510781
It took me so long to figure this out, all that wasted time and wasted opportunities gone forever... Feels like I'm having to start frim zero but I'm making progress at least

[Anonymous No.13519332]

>>13511023
>It's really about people who are in the same place mentally as you are. Take this with a grain of salt, but maybe you are genetically predisposed to have a rare set of mental characteristics. People feel like they're not on the same mental wavelength as you, and vice versa.

THIS but unironically. try to socialize more (you get used to it) and eventually you will find the rare people you click with. it might be worth getting into the local music scene (if there exists one) or into some niche interest. somewhere weirdish people gather IRL, try that.

[Anonymous No.13519398]

>>13510521
I'm a similar type to you, anon, and sadly haven't found the answer to our struggles. I just wanted to wish you blessings, and say that you are loved, and to know that if you continue down the path of life, things will steadily fall more and more in place. You'll gain an understanding of who you are, and what you desire, and what is comfortable for you to attain. Not everyone needs a circle of friends, for example, I myself prefer to have very few. You'll learn what you prefer living with. Anyways take care anon, you seem like a kind soul.

[Anonymous No.13519407]

>>13517984
true, true. but knowing this, you also know other people experience the same dread. that should be a motivation to at least help or be kind to others.

[Anonymous No.13519419]

>>13518697
honestly, I've found almost every supposed "great opportunity" I've taken to be a major disappointment. Every new workspace or school I go to is just filled with people I don't wanna be around.
When I think back to the times I've felt best, it was almost always on my own, in nature or at home.

[Anonymous No.13519470]

unironically.... jordan peterson forgive me :S

[Anonymous No.13519650]

>>13510527
Based

[Anonymous No.13519707]

>>13516264
Nah bro

[Anonymous No.13521023]

>>13510521
I'm like you but 24. Start with something small maybe learning to drive first. I have driving anxiety and it's a bitch but I'm trying

[Anonymous No.13521431]

>>13510521
just b urself

[Anonymous No.13521465]

>/lit/ - Advice

[Anonymous No.13522055]

>>13521023
I'm almost 20 and that's my current goal is to get my license too. Should have a lesson pretty soon, so I'm hoping that helps with the anxiety some.

[Anonymous No.13522090]

>>13521023
>>13522055
Jesus Christ do both of you wear panties, grow the fuck up you fucking spoon fed pussies, get the fuck off of the literature board you insufferable faggots

[Anonymous No.13523066]

>>13510633
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.13523492]

>>13522090
>ooh look at me I'm such a big tough guy I call others pussies because I'm just an insecure little bitch

[Anonymous No.13524344]

>>13518765
where is London frog now?

[Anonymous No.13525134]

>>13510521
Pretty much the same except I'm working but hating it and constantly feeling that I'm wasting my time. Where are you from?

[Anonymous No.13525310]

>>13518349
grass greener always otherside. quiet quaint life good. time to read nice. sex not truly fulfill. friends not truly fulfil. true connection impossible.

[Anonymous No.13526092]

>>13522055
it won't. you willl have a license, just like 90+% of all the other people. It really won't change your life any more than learning to ride a bike did.

[Anonymous No.13526678]

>>13510521
>>13513536
Anything but p&v for Notes. They're generally good, but they warp Notes too much.