Is this a good introduction to cinema literature?

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Anonymous Mon Jul 22 08:29:40 2019 No.13509232 [Reply] [Original]

Is this a good introduction to cinema literature?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 08:36:22 2019 No.13509250 >>13509232 cinema is shit study photography instead because all of the cinema is just moving staged photography stills.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 08:37:20 2019 No.13509252 >>13509232 NOPE. Go make a film on your phone. You'll learn more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 08:45:34 2019 No.13509273 >>13509252 just bee yourself man op if you're intrested in filmmaking then checkout this general >>>/p/3495085 comfy general and /vid/ anons are really nice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 08:46:51 2019 No.13509277 >>13509273 Thanks >>13509252 >>13509250 a-and thanks you too I guess

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 08:47:52 2019 No.13509281 >>13509232 dont go to film go to кинo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 08:48:59 2019 No.13509285 >>13509232 It’s great and Bordwell is one of the best film theorists out there

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 08:52:13 2019 No.13509298 >>13509232 cinema is trash, living actors is worthless waste of money on hacks, all commercialized for the best sales to the middle class. Why do this if can read books written by authors who have invested their whole soul in them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 08:55:30 2019 No.13509304 >>13509285 >film theorists pure cancer

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 09:01:24 2019 No.13509314 >>13509250 Tarkovsky would like to talk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 09:09:45 2019 No.13509341 >>13509232 I have an old edition of this, got it used. That cover is awful.

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 09:11:01 2019 No.13509350

>>13509232
Depends how much you know already I guess. If you know nothing, then it's great. Even if you already know a fair bit about film and film making, the exemplar essays toward the end of the book are great and really helped me to write about film in the right way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 09:23:00 2019 No.13509392 >>13509285 >>13509350 I'll get it then and some other books, I dont know a lot about cinema despite having watched a lot of films

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 09:40:56 2019 No.13509447 >>13509314 Tarkovsky just like Kubrick came from a photography background before coming to cinema that's why his composition is god-tier. in fact his films are one of the best examples of moving photographs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 09:41:23 2019 No.13509448 >>13509232 if you're going to read that, don't buy it, it's used in film courses in college so it'll be priced as such. There are free pdfs of it on b-ok and libgen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 09:51:12 2019 No.13509491 >>13509252 >digital "cinema"

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 09:54:15 2019 No.13509499

>>13509232
I don't care for it because Bordwell and Thompson shove their film theory down your throat all the time. I unironically prefer Giannetti because it's so elementary and readable.

If you want to learn film theory get Film Theory and Criticism by Braudy and Cohen.

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 10:41:19 2019 No.13509697
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>>13509277
the books which are mentioned in this /vid/ sticky
>Helpful guide, additional books and more in-depth FAQs - https://pastebin.com/kG0gRmTZ
here's mega of most of the books by some big based anon on /p/

https://mega.nz/#F!wMoBgKgB!k0o6QBLJNzNKHpU3lEINAA

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 11:02:00 2019 No.13509786 >>13509697 Thanks, I saw the pastebin earlier but not the mega

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 11:16:06 2019 No.13509845
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>>13509786
yeah no problem
use /vid/ for technical and gear related questions
if you need film inspo checkout /tv/ wiki
and if you're interested in pseud-core super obscure cinema then checkout 8ch*n's /film/ board. the board is pretty much dead but still you can find tons of cool stuff from active threads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 13:35:30 2019 No.13510484 >>13509304 do you have an argument for why you believe this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 15:49:46 2019 No.13511110 >>13510484 they just sit and talk shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 16:05:17 2019 No.13511171 >>13510484 yeah, i'm Werner Herzog

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 16:07:37 2019 No.13511177 >>13509491 He's probably a wanker who thinks he has something deep to say. Let him try making one film. He'll shut the hell up forever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 16:26:15 2019 No.13511269 >>13511177 this is one of the most bullshit thing I have read

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:05:19 2019 No.13511477 >>13509232 its not good. its bloated. and you dont feel like your learning anything that matters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:06:15 2019 No.13511480 >>13509232 just watch movies instead jesus

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:09:53 2019 No.13511500 >>13511269 >i'm learning how to fly a plane by reading a cooking manual

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:21:20 2019 No.13511559

>>13509447
I think you're grossly oversimplifying it, but you have a point. It is difficult to make good films until you really understand what photography is and isn't. Current cinema is a great example; even in films that are receiving awards, the cinematography rarely rises above a mere pointing. When you try to show people alternatives, they literally cannot sit still to watch it, they are so blind to what's actually going on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:41:02 2019 No.13511634 Just started reading Plazewski , highly recommend it but I don't think his work has been translated into English.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:42:45 2019 No.13511636 >>13511559 Maybe because your shitty art films are actually garbage and you're so braindead that you're okay watching literal pretentious shit for 2-4 hours at a time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:47:19 2019 No.13511663 >>13511636 not that anon, but mind telling us some examples of >shitty art films

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:49:09 2019 No.13511672 >>13511663 The film from OP's pic is a good example.

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:55:11 2019 No.13511697

>>13511672
I must say, i agree on that one, that one is pretty shit but that doesn't mean all of them are.
For instance 400 blows is amazing if you're a rebellious kid and so is Wendy and Lucy or A Brighter Summer Day (longass film i know...but man is it worth it).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:58:07 2019 No.13511711 >>13511636 >>13511672 Dude, Avatar 2 is going to beat Endgame. Just get over it now, and enjoy life. There's so much more to live for than >sarcastic quips

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 18:01:54 2019 No.13511728

>>13511711
Honestly, I don't even know what Avatar or Endgame are. Your remark went totally over my head. You should stop filling up your mind with pop culture garbage. >>13511697 I've seen too many shitty pretentious art films to give anymore of them chances, but I appreciate the recs. I'll stick with books, but maybe in a few months I'll get bored and want to watch a film. I'll try to remember one of those titles then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 18:13:00 2019 No.13511774 >>13511728 What's your favorite book?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 18:20:18 2019 No.13511809 >>13511774 Tough question but if I was forced to pick I'd say El Quijote.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 18:32:19 2019 No.13511863 >>13511728 >>13511728 I'm guessing you're a Spanish speaking anon. Whoever you are, i hope you one day watch - El Sur and El espíritu de la colmena, my man. Cinema is not an enemy of books as 4chan believes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 18:44:55 2019 No.13511912 >>13511863 Is El espíritu de la colmena really an anti-Franco film? Why would I watch that?

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:17:49 2019 No.13512074

>>13511809
>The Modern World is awful
>My favorite book is the birth of Modern literature
>I like it because it subverts the tropes of Chivalric Romance
>It's also great because the author defended his copyright and prevented his characters from becoming a meaningful part of the cultural folk lore

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:19:50 2019 No.13512083 >>13512074 You're really good at assuming my opinions and straw-manning. I think you have a good career in journalism in front of you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:26:18 2019 No.13512105 >>13512083 Nah, already went to journalism school. Doesn't pay well enough for my skills. Advertising is the life for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:26:58 2019 No.13512107 >>13509232 If you want to get into film theory or film history, start with David Bordwell or Thomas Elsaesser or maybe Casetti.They are very accessible. Don't expect too much though. Film theory is kinda shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:28:56 2019 No.13512117 >>13512107 I don't know. I quite like Bazin. Would you consider Sculpting in Time to be film theory?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 19:31:51 2019 No.13512133 L’argent was my first bresson. I enjoyed it but was underwhelmed. Am I missing something?

>>	MKULTRA CHAD: SUPERCHRIST PONT(...) Mon Jul 22 20:47:14 2019 No.13512454 >>13509250 you mean: study painting first.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:27:03 2019 No.13512589 File: 265 KB, 600x534, proveit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13509250 >cinema is shit Prove it

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 22:05:32 2019 No.13512748

>>13511863
Okay, I gave El espíritu de la colmena a chance and here are my thoughts: the film was alright. Nice symbolism, good cinematography. That said, I don't like the political message behind the film. After reading about it I thought it was silly. This is one of the reasons I don't like film. Leftists/liberals always push their message with the medium and it totally ruins it. This is less a complaint about film itself then about how film is abused as a medium by artist-politicians.

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 06:48:33 2019 No.13514167

>>13512117
>Sculpting in Time to be film theory
why this is a question you fucking disgraceful faggot?

>>13512454
lol fuck no. there are some similarities between all visual arts. but photography are cinema are way different from painting.

>>13512589
its not truth but a statement in a different body with respect to time, full of contradiction and dream

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 06:58:00 2019 No.13514196 >>13511634 Kurwa

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 07:43:59 2019 No.13514328 >>13514167 >its not truth so it's a lie

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 08:13:45 2019 No.13514443 >>13512105 What's difference, apart from the pay?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 08:46:15 2019 No.13514547 >>13514328 >le good ol' normalfag binary thinking disgusting

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 09:10:42 2019 No.13514627

>>13512748
Ah! So you do speak Spanish.
You're putting too much value on politics, man. Almost all good films (not Hollywood) ever made are slightly left leaning, if you study them closely. That's how the world is. It's not fair but that's the reality of art. Learn to ignore politics for a while, otherwise you'll miss out on very good films.

Take Yi-Yi for instance. It's a masterpiece of family drama but i'm sure it will be found to be left leaning if people like you dissect it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 09:25:40 2019 No.13514691 File: 83 KB, 1777x999, proveitshane.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >normalfag Prove it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 09:28:07 2019 No.13514703 File: 83 KB, 1777x999, proveitshane.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13514547 >normalfag

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 09:35:58 2019 No.13514741

>>13514691
im not he, but for me more mediam cost, shite they are. Too much monetary interest intervention. That's why the most crappy media is games, and best is books, because everyone can write them, and for that needed only one person. Than money spoils even literature, so what else think about cinema

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 09:37:24 2019 No.13514744 >>13514741 > >>13512589

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 10:08:33 2019 No.13514881 >>13514741 but those things also imply on publishing books. i mean not that hectic but still.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 10:22:47 2019 No.13514941 >>13514881 I mentioned this, but you understood the main point

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:08:37 2019 No.13515395 >>13509232 >studying cinema >thinking that cinema deserves any kind of intellectual attention pseud alert yikes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:17:49 2019 No.13515428 >>13515395 then explain this https://youtu.be/a-1NjaLpITw

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:17:55 2019 No.13515430

>>13514627
I'm putting the value on politics that the film gives it. If I were to ignore the politics of the film, I'd say I'd be ignoring such a major part of the film so as to impede understanding. Especially since the two girls of the film are symbolic of the republic/nationalist forces. It's seriously impossible to ignore that. A lot of Spaniards used art to cope with Franco's regime. Apart from emotional coping for leftists, their works of art have little value. Yes, the film looks beautiful, but it's still leftwing and anti-Franco to its core. The politics aren't some "extra" thing to be ignored; the film is a political film. In Spain it was common place to conceal one's political message to get past the censors, I think you'd probably make a bad censor anon since you missed the entire symbology of the film. lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:18:58 2019 No.13515437 >>13515428 just a whore standing around smoking a cig, do you really think this is deep?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:21:43 2019 No.13515446 >>13515437 i have posted this 1min ago and you replied after 30sec but the short is 2:30 you are a visually illiterate caveman npc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:22:09 2019 No.13515449 >>13515428 lol it's just trashy eyecandy I bet you like Refn Pseud status confirmed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:24:39 2019 No.13515461 >>13509232 so is this a massive text book? I'd read it but if it's just a text book I don't have space for that shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:25:37 2019 No.13515465 >>13512133 you are missing a lot, read Susan Santog essay

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:26:30 2019 No.13515467 >>13515446 skipped through it because it's boring and also you probably have mental illness if you're keeping track of me like that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:28:22 2019 No.13515478 >>13515449 no i like french, iranian, soviet and little bit of bengali cinema

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:29:52 2019 No.13515490 File: 18 KB, 200x300, 9780252074110.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Favourite book on film/film-maker, /lit/? This is mine. If you're a fan it's worth checking out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:29:54 2019 No.13515491 >>13515446 that wasn't me I was >>13515449 I watched it all wtf do you even see in it apart from a hot bitch and sparkling light Just watch softcore porn it's intellectually on the very same level

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:31:09 2019 No.13515496 >>13515478 Yikes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:32:34 2019 No.13515502 >>13515467 its literally a 2:30min vid for fuck sake you have the attention of 15y/o zoomer lol and i am not tracking you i updatded the thread when you replied.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:35:58 2019 No.13515519 >>13515491 lol that wasn't even InTellECtUaL now explain this pleb https://youtu.be/Pfi4plqs6_w

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:39:12 2019 No.13515528 >>13515519 no one wants to watch your weird fetish collection

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:42:47 2019 No.13515543 >>13514443 Advertising is more honest. At least when you see an ad, you know who's paying for it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:47:45 2019 No.13515564

>>13514167
Because as much as Tarkovsky explains his understanding of film and puts forward some ideas about theory, the presentation lets them stand in between personal reflection on what worked and true critical analysis. It lacks the formalism so common in western philosophy, even continental philosophy, for a far more "greek orthodox", mystic approach. The very idea of subjective time is not easily accepted by most people, and as much as I and many might agree with Tarkovsky, it is difficult to explain how this might effectively be put into practice, and if it were not for the example of his own films (which many find impenetrable) then there would be little support for anything he says.

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:48:07 2019 No.13515567

>>13515519
>explain it
OK, it's an aesthetically well put pile of bullshit.
Look I'm not even here to troll you I too had my juvenile infatuation with cinema. But I simply grew out of it. It's all an ugly bourgeois wankery and it is literally an illusion. The most fake of mimetic forms of art.
After realizing that, my list of movies that I consider worthy has been literally decimated, and my respect for the art itself plummeted quite dramatically.

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:55:24 2019 No.13515596

>>13515567
A different anon. I'm quite certain you've mistaken the reprehensible use the medium has been put to for the actual quality and power of the medium itself. It's no more an illusion than a novel or a painting or a sculpture. Most of it is hideous because the ideas of our age are barbaric and cruel. Most films are a disgrace; but if you can recognize how detestable most of it is, then that implicitly acknowledges the incredible potential that remains wasted.

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 13:05:15 2019 No.13515641

Whoever says film is a bad medium hasn't seen enough / the right films. You can find the entire range of human experience in film, from the most intellectualising and formalist to the most heartwarming and humane, to the most abstract and impenetrable. And at the end of the day you get out of it what you put into it, if one is unwilling to engage with the art form of course they'll find it boring.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 13:06:38 2019 No.13515649 >>13515641 >the medium is good because it shows you what you have already found in life I like cinema, but your argument is poor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 13:10:00 2019 No.13515670 >>13509232 there is already a film board, pls talk to them and fuck off >>>/tv/

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 13:10:35 2019 No.13515675

>>13515649
What I mean is, the medium is good because it has the ability to portray the facets of life in all its complexity, as a range of very difference directors have managed to make very different films that are still comprehensible to another human being. So the medium can't be bad.

I don't really want to get intot this discussion, but as a counterexample we can look at videogames. They've been around for over 30 years and yet the issue of 'gameplay' seems to be a hurdle that hinders what can be done with the medium and limits it. Film on the other hand managed to develop into a proper artform within one or two decades from its invention.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 13:12:21 2019 No.13515684 >>13515430 Asking as a foreinger, what else they (leftist filmmskers) were suppoded to do? Just go along? Besides what is the difference with a pro-Franco filmmaker, you just praise him?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 13:13:37 2019 No.13515687 >>13515567 >it is literally an illusion So is any work of fiction, be it a book or a painting or whatever. Do you want to take this hardline Platonic view of art?

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 13:22:35 2019 No.13515725

>>13515567
>It's all an ugly bourgeois wankery
like all of the published literature which consider hight art. this implies to almost all medium of arts.
>it is literally an illusion
you have read too much baudrillard for your own good.
how his philosophy is not "bourgeois wankery" by your logic?

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 13:25:46 2019 No.13515740

>>13515684
I don't know. I can't blame someone for expressing dissent with art, but as a right-winger I don't have to like it. The situation is exacerbated right now since we have a socialist in power in Spain and he is letting in thousands of Africans into the country. We also have a lot of Eastern Europeans from Poland and Russia coming in. I can't imagine Spain withstanding all this. All left-wing movements are dissolutive for the country and it's hard to watch a film that was so dishonest as to portray the republican forces as innocent (Ana) and the nationalist forces as deceptive and cruel (Isabel). Anyone familiar with the wars fought in Spain in the 20th century knows that both sides were capable of the most tremendous atrocities. In the end, only Spain lost and now foreigners basically rule over us and are giving away the country to a globalizing process that is destroying the Spain I grew up in. It sucks. That's why I don't really like left wing films.

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 13:29:16 2019 No.13515753

>>13515596
I'm more about the actual process of making a movie, that I tend to not like because it involves so many people you hardly can tell who actually contributed to it and it's a far step away from the integrity of other forms of art where a single artist have a lot more control on the craft. Brainlets are told that all credits go to the director, but this is lame as shit.
>>13515687
No, I'm just saying that films are by a long way the most fake. To explain what I exactly mean would take too long.
>>13515641
WHOLESOME

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 13:47:32 2019 No.13515841

>>13515753
> it involves so many people you hardly can tell who actually contributed to it

Ah but you see, look at it another way: film is perhaps the only, the last remaining art form that is truly made by a 'community', that is by a group of people, similar to the great medieval art that had no 'author', but a number of people who worked on it, a cathedral for example. Like a cathedral, a film has an architect (the director) and various people in charge (head of department - cinematographer, producer, production designer, gaffer, costume designer, and so on), as well as the builders (everyone else on set), all of whom bring something to the film.

This is something I find very special about film and it's one of the reasons I got into working in filmmaking, because all other arts follow a Renaissance and Romantic view of the artist as lonely genius, fulcrum point of his culture who can somehow convey the 'art' of his time through his genius mind. Whether or not that's the case in contemporary plastic arts is up to each person's opinion. Film is a group effort, where each person bring something unique to the picture, and sometimes that comes together to create a special work, other times people don't get along and it's crap. But in terms of process, it's completely unique in the arts today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 14:03:46 2019 No.13515891 >>13515740 >socialist in power in Spain Is the Spain state trying to hand over the means of production to the prolet? Or by left/right division you mean their position on immigrants?

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 14:12:00 2019 No.13515930

>>13515841
Well idk, maybe.
But in fact, I'm not mad about architecture either. And I don't think the analogy works smoothly.
Architecture is hardly a form of art. It must produce a functional building (that, hopefully, ends up to be beautiful by the way). It's "collective effort" is really a very pragmatic necessity, and I would say the architect has way more overall control over the building than a director over a movie.
The fact about working in group, when it is a matter of an artistic endeavor, sounds good and exciting in theory but it ends up being an utopia.
Working with a lot of people is not really always pleasant. It really can bring all kind of antics in the way of the work. I do like the idea, but I don't like the reality of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 14:36:27 2019 No.13516043 >>13515930 >>13515753 It seems you've spent most of your time deliberating over your imagination of these industries rather than actually studying them. The world is bigger than the cube you live in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 14:37:49 2019 No.13516050 >>13509250 You do study photography when you study cinema That's like saying study calculus before you study the natural sciences - it's a requisite

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 14:43:54 2019 No.13516077 >>13516050 A lot of people "study" photography, but as you can see by the results, very few people actually know it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 14:45:12 2019 No.13516084 >>13516077 You could say that about literally anything

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 14:47:36 2019 No.13516100 >>13516084 Does that make it less true?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 15:02:04 2019 No.13516162 >>13516043 yeah dodge it like a faggot

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 15:35:06 2019 No.13516319

>>13515430
>you'd probably make a bad censor anon since you missed the entire symbology of the film.
I don't believe in censorship but thanks for the background info. I did not know it was anti-Franco or whatever you claim it to be. I am not interested. I just see it as a good children's film.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 15:36:25 2019 No.13516324 imagine being pro-Franco lmao embarrassing

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 15:43:36 2019 No.13516360

>>13515891
Sanchez is left wing but obviously he is limited in his power.
>>13516319
Well, have fun ignoring the full depth of the films you watch, for better or for worse.
>>13516324
I'm not pro-Franco. I like falangism and carlism though. Francoism was superior to what the republicans wanted. That's pretty obvious. But Francoism had a lot of faults. Left wing critique of him is just weak though.

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 16:10:07 2019 No.13516538

>>13516162
>Directors are not like authors, because there's a team of people
>Architects don't really have that much control or influence, because there's a team of people
>The conductor is unimportant, because it's the symphony that plays the music
>CEOs really shouldn't get so much money, because the company would run without them
>What do we need a president for? We've already got a bureaucracy.
Given that you don't like being around other people, it makes sense that you wouldn't understand leadership.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 16:26:15 2019 No.13516633 >>13515478 >little bit of bengali cinema tell me more anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 16:28:26 2019 No.13516649 >>13515567 >my list of movies that I consider worthy has been literally decimated what are some of the remaining worthy ones?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 16:31:13 2019 No.13516669 >>13516538 You are a miserable fucking joke, truly anon. Go back at your eyecandy visuals you fucking idiot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 16:32:43 2019 No.13516681 >>13516669 I asked you what your favorite book is. What do you think my favorite film is?

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:08:38 2019 No.13516905

>>13516633
the Parallel Cinema genre basically started from bengal. i fucking love this genre.
Satyajit Ray was my introduction to bengali cinema and parallel cinema.
Pather Panchali is my most favorite movie of all time. this movie is like a documentation of my childhood. i think most of the people of the indian subcontinent who have spent their childhood in a village could easily relate to Apu and Durga's childhood. i can feel those scenes man. i just can't explain it in words how i feel about this.
this scene is everything

https://youtu.be/6cC76y8UXMo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:12:02 2019 No.13516928 >>13516905 Pather Panchali is considered the cornerstone of Bengali cinema. You have good taste. But my favourite of Satyajit is Apur Sangsar, the last film of the Pather Panchali trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:15:13 2019 No.13516949 File: 81 KB, 960x612, fff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13516360 >That's pretty obvious. Why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:23:18 2019 No.13516989 >>13516949 bunch of atheist retards who wanted the disintegration of spain into a bunch of anarchist LGBT feminist communes

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:25:49 2019 No.13516999

>>13516360
>have fun ignoring the full depth of the films
AHHAHAHAHAAHAA

>ignores cinema at first
>hasn't seen shit
>it's shit ....CINEMA IS SHIT I TELL YOU...CINEMA IS SHIT
>gets called out for having a closed mind
>gets angry at being called out for being a shallow cunt
>goes on a full blast THESIS on film's political ANTI-FRANCO overtones (recently pulled out of his ass)
3 posts later calls films deep

Glad i could show you the light.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:28:22 2019 No.13517008 >>13516989 Sounds great to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:30:58 2019 No.13517021 >>13516905 THIS IS SO BADLY STAGED LMAO.....You guys think this is Cinema?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:31:37 2019 No.13517023 I've wanted to make films for years but can't see myself asking someone for a shit load of money to work on my stuff. Especially when it's borderline impossible to make your money back, film is all but dead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:32:56 2019 No.13517027 >>13517023 keep trying....

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:34:50 2019 No.13517040 >>13517023 Stop being a pussy. You are taking money from retards only looking to make a profit off of you so if you waste their money what does it matter?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:42:43 2019 No.13517090 >>13517040 There's no honor in making a career out of scamming people out of their money to pay for your "art."

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:45:38 2019 No.13517105 >>13517090 kek >honor >film

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:47:09 2019 No.13517114 >>13517021 haha epic bait bro

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:47:22 2019 No.13517115 >>13517008 kys then

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:47:31 2019 No.13517118 >>13517090 It's not scamming if they are taking a educated guess on whether the film is going to do well or not. The people who give you money are scamming pieces of shit anyways so you should try to take as much money from them as you can.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:48:33 2019 No.13517124 >>13517115 no u

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:49:48 2019 No.13517135

>>13517118
Yeah, maybe you're right. Something about it just never felt right to me. Maybe because investors don't put money into a completed project, they have to fund the construction of it. With something like film, I don't know. Very strange. I think it's just me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 19:50:44 2019 No.13517631 >>13515478 suggest some iranian, soviet and french films

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 19:55:41 2019 No.13517646 >>13517090 a dig at orson welles

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