/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13480939]

I didn’t get it. What was the message?

[Anonymous No.13480947]

>>13480939
>the message

[Anonymous No.13480951]

Embrace the absurd. Roll a rock uphill

[Anonymous No.13480952]

>>13480939
What Camus try to say on the stranger is that your mom is dead today, possibly yesterday

[Anonymous No.13480979]

>>13480951
You clearly did not read the book.

[Anonymous No.13481175]

Kill Arabs.

[Anonymous No.13481180]

>>13480939
Camus, like the rest of the existentialists, is not a real philosopher.

[Anonymous No.13481191]

>>13480939
What is the message behind The Stranger? How much of it is simply an expression of the cultural milieu and how much is a way of expressing identity?

I find it all quite fascinating. I used to have these discussions with my friends once or twice a week; I used to go to the local public library (and this sounds like it will come all too easy for anyone living in rural England to do at some point in their long life. Well, we live in a rural England, and rural people use a lot of local services (including local libraries, schools and post offices which are basically all local shops and stores — all have a very distinct British character). Most people would rather go through the library at lunchtime or, on an evening out, then use a public post office to get themselves in touch with the library.

[Anonymous No.13481194]

>>13480939
People are strange, when you're a stranger.

[Anonymous No.13481197]

>>13481180
Agree, but he was a passable novelist nonetheless, and you maybe be retarded if you assume high philosophical abilities correlate with literary talent

[Anonymous No.13481201]

>>13481191
faggot

[Anonymous No.13481206]

>>13481201
tapir

[Anonymous No.13481452]

>>13480952
Based

[Anonymous No.13481555]

>>13480939
Always wear sun protection and keep hydrated at the beach

[Anonymous No.13482190]

>>13480979
You clearly did not had sex

[Anonymous No.13482267]

don't kill Arabs without a good alibi

[Anonymous No.13482287]

>>13480939
The point is that you should hope there'll be many people watching your execution.

[Anonymous No.13482292]

If you didn't really get it you probably had an issue really empathizing with Mersault. You're not a woman, I'm assuming, so you might have read it in too analytical a fashion. Try going over some of it again but try to relax and just put yourself in the shoes of a detached, French fuckboy.

[Anonymous No.13482303]

Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge. I'm trying not to lose my head.

[Anonymous No.13482322]

>>13482292
No real person acts like Mersault. He's much too detached.

[Anonymous No.13482328]

>>13480939
fuck arabs
Also sun sucks

[Anonymous No.13482370]

>>13482322
True. But he has characteristics that, broadly speaking, should be relatable for most young men. I'm sure most people can imagine themselves working a job they care little for, or dating a girl who is pretty but not very interesting, or hanging out with some asshole friend who pulls you into some trouble. Up until the murder it wouldn't be hard to imagine that the narrative isn't far off from a somewhat typical Algerian summer. However, through Mersault's perspective, we're led to look at this common and relatable experiences through a strange and absurd lens. Who hasn't had a loved one die? Who doesn't have issues with one or both parents? Who hasn't gotten into a fight at some point? These are all things that everyone does, and the only difference between us and Mersault is his detachment and ultimately, his disregard for the perhaps arbitrary moral boundary we draw at taking a life.

Try to empathize with his experiences and place yourself in his circumstances rather than just his thoughts. In my experience, I found that helped me to better feel his detachment as my own in the narrative.

[Anonymous No.13482449]

>>13482292
"""French"""

[Anonymous No.13482467]

>>13482303
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under.

[Anonymous No.13482472]

was it a sort of a "stay authentic" thing? Like wasn't it implied that meursault was committed to killing the arab the second he decided to head down to the beach?
would sort of make sense with absurdism

[Anonymous No.13482498]

Don't kill people, when everyone already thinks you're weird.

Alternatively:

If you want to kill people, at least try to pretend to be a normie.

[Anonymous No.13482663]

>>13480939
too many arabs
https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/stranger-stranger/

[Anonymous No.13482671]

I didn't cry at my grandmother or dad's funeral but I did at my sisters.

[Anonymous No.13482712]

You were supposed to feel something, not look for a maxim - are you still in high school, that every book has to teach something, or have a political statement? Embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.13482749]

>>13481191
you didn't close one parenthesis what the fuck is your problem

[Anonymous No.13482771]

>>13482749
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[Anonymous No.13482836]

>>13480939
You learned that the book is bad, and then you will go on to read Myth of Sisyphus and realize Camus is a hack altogether.

[Anonymous No.13483159]

Mersault is the perfect citizen. He follows orders without giving it a thought, thus he can't rebel. He doesn't show his emotions nor does he act based on them, thus they won't hinder his act. He recieves the capital punishment because once society realizes what it has helped to create it becomes self conscious, it recoils in horror, and tries to bury it under the rug while trying to avoid giving it any substantial thought, and so it denies itself any real way to learn from its mistakes. With the death of this book's Mersault, many other Mersaults will come and tread the same path, and meet the same fate until the society that gave birth to him decides to change.

[Anonymous No.13483169]

>>13480939
Shoot arabs because why not.

[Anonymous No.13483204]

>>13480939
You didn't get it because you read it in English.

[Anonymous No.13483232]

>>13481197
many great works of philosophy are also highly literary, just like many of the great novels are deeply philosophical.

[Anonymous No.13483244]

this name shows the retardation of americans.
fucking the stranger
l'étranger. foreigner, not stranger.

[Anonymous No.13483264]

>>13480947
Kek

[Anonymous No.13483270]

>>13481197
What is literary talent?

[Anonymous No.13483275]

>>13483232
>implying the stranger is philosophical
>implying it would even be a good thing if it were philosophical (bruh philosophy is GAY)
hahahahahahahah fucking pseud

[Anonymous No.13483325]

Humans adapt to a situation and if you let things pass by then you'll get swept alongside them.

[Anonymous No.13483371]

>>13482836
Why is he considered a hack again?

[Anonymous No.13483378]

>>13480939
It's about how personal experience doesn't fit into social norms and expectations and that these expectations are not reality, but arbitrary constructs.
People tend to look for meaning where there is none. Ironically, people tend to look for meaning in this book, but the meaning is that there is no meaning.

[Anonymous No.13483392]

>>13480939
Alienation

[Anonymous No.13483572]

>>13480939
Sunburn hurts, always double tap, dude indulge the senses lmao, and you'll never know a good justification as to why you should or should not do x, y or z.

[Anonymous No.13484070]

>>13480939
Message is life is shit and society is evil. The guy did nothing wrong and for some reason gets painted as the villain. It's kind of like the movie Falling Down where the main character just defends himself and suddenly is a bad guy.

[Anonymous No.13484242]

who did the best translation for this book?

[Anonymous No.13484262]

>>13483275
Literature is shitty philosophy anyways