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Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:24:04 2019 No.13473923 [Reply] [Original]

Why do Humanities and litareture people love to write long paragraphs filled with big words ,fluff and abstraction ?
As a science person i am more into getting straight to the point and using the most basic of statements to make said point

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:25:35 2019 No.13473927 Because it's aesthetically pleasing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:25:39 2019 No.13473928 ok, and?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:25:54 2019 No.13473931 >>13473923 >big words reading STEM papers is 10x more tortorous than reading anything from the humanities

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:31:04 2019 No.13473965 >>13473923 there are things you can't explain by simple words, that's the whole idea behind humanities and literature

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:39:51 2019 No.13474004 >>13473923 You would love reading screenplays then anon. They cut out all the fat of prose but still retain voice in the action lines.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:41:35 2019 No.13474010 >>13474004 or hemingway

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:43:07 2019 No.13474016

>>13473923
Are you a “science person”, OP? Which accredited institution did you get your degree in, and what did you study? What research have you conducted and how many papers do you have to your credit? People always complain about christlarpers but sciencelarpers are just as shit. You aren’t a scientist, stop larping as one on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:48:04 2019 No.13474028 Because good literature is about the journey, not the destination. Most science fiction are page turners because you want to know what happens next, not because the styles or characters are so moving you can’t stop reading.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 01:54:09 2019 No.13474043 >>13474010 this

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 02:02:38 2019 No.13474072

>>13473923
STEM people are interested in measuring and categorizing the objective, physical world. Obviously the job necessitates a great deal of simplification. Humanities and literature people are more interested in the complexities of individual experience - the human condition - which, in order to be sufficiently recorded, cannot be oversimplified.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 02:04:00 2019 No.13474080 >>13473923 they like to sniff their own farts

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 02:04:20 2019 No.13474082 >>13474016 Stop being a pedantic piece of shit , you are proving my point

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 02:04:49 2019 No.13474084 >>13474080 everyone does, everyone likes the smell of their own farts

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 02:06:08 2019 No.13474089 >>13474084 ummm no.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 02:07:32 2019 No.13474092 >>13474089 Oh, I guess other people’s farts don’t smell as good as mine I guess braaaps out of your thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 02:08:11 2019 No.13474094 >>13473923 Brainlets

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:29:26 2019 No.13474533 >>13474004 This is why i like film

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:32:00 2019 No.13474541 >>13473927 No, because it makes them look smart, and that's it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:34:54 2019 No.13474547 >>13473923 >big words Any text of a discipline with which you're not acquainted will always feel like gibberish. You should know this by now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:35:07 2019 No.13474550 >>13473923 T undergrad who has never read a science paper before

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:41:44 2019 No.13474558
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>>13473923
Obfuscation obviously. Outside of history and a few other disciplines, most humanities are glorified hobbies that have no real justification for being subsidised by the state. Humanity would be better off if these "academics" were stealing televisions to feed their opiate addiction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:41:48 2019 No.13474559 >>13473931 maybe you just can't understand it?

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:50:18 2019 No.13474569

It comes from the times when the only real way to be educated was to be a priest. And priests purposefully obfuscated their speech to the point of reading the bible in Latin when nobody understood. Now it's the same with academia. They could explain their ideas in a way that most people understand but they don't because that would put a hole in the superficial grandeur surrounding academia.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:51:27 2019 No.13474572

>>13473923
>>13473931
>>13474559
STEM papers are often notoriously badly written and rely way too much on whatever meme terminology is in fashion at the time of writing.

t. PhD student in STEM currently writing one of those badly-written meme-terminology-ridden papers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:53:23 2019 No.13474575 File: 187 KB, 592x876, Women's studies in communication.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] These people are employed to write and teach this stuff. American's are paying for it, either through taxes or inflated college fees.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:58:02 2019 No.13474591 >>13474575 "Feminist scholar-activist" sounds like something she would call herself in her twitter bio. Also a joke, it sounds like one of those.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:01:24 2019 No.13474596 >>13474575 >The two hosts continually perform masculinity for each other and for audiences...

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:03:49 2019 No.13474600

>>13474569
>explain their ideas in a way that most people understand
Intellectual disciplines develop their own terminology to achieve communicational economy. Just like people here use terms such as LARPing, shitposting, pseud... Imagine having to explain at lenght what you want to say when you and your readers can agree on the meaning of certain made up terms

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:13:18 2019 No.13474629 >>13474575 Memes asides this rightly highlight how American TV relies on self-conscious performing of stereotypes. People are literally paid to gleeful engage in caricaturing themselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:22:20 2019 No.13474645 >>13474558 Why are authors allowed to produce ideological drivel like that, and why hasnt this author been lynched yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:43:57 2019 No.13474700 File: 83 KB, 568x857, Ambivalence in encounters with my big fat Greek closet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13474629 >stereotypes exist in American television Groundbreaking. They should write a blog about it on their own dime.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:49:27 2019 No.13474711 >>13474700 It's not that they merely exist, it is that they are the fundamental mechanism by which American audiences are entertained. Small wonder politics are turning into a worse shitshow every new election.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:52:55 2019 No.13474719 >>13474600 Okay but that's not what I'm talking about. The style of writing in philosophy is intended to be dense and impossible to read. Just look at the postmodernists.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 07:04:21 2019 No.13474748

>>13474711
Watching a bunch of day time TV and musing about stereotypes is not informative of anything, let alone why American politics is such a shitshow. It would probably be more enlightening to understand the psychological and political consequences of spending 4 years being taught about 'whiteness' studies and performative heterosexuality and then entering the a labour market that has zero demand for those skills.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 07:29:17 2019 No.13474808 >>13474748 I'm not saying it's informative, but just from reading that abstract I got a feel for the level of cringe fakeness that the show must put on to get viewer.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 07:35:04 2019 No.13474825

>>13474558
>>13474575
>>13474579
>>13474700
This is a wonderful example of cherry-picking. The majority of research papers in any field, including STEM fields, are just fluff. Stop pretending that anything meaningful is happening anywhere. And please stop pretending that you're doing anything worthwhile. If you were you wouldn't be here spinning your wheels with everyone else.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 07:38:20 2019 No.13474833

>>13473923
>as an ignoramus raised on Twitter I can’t understand why people wouldn’t want to put an arbitrary limitation on truth like “180 characters or less”
Imagine thinking you’re more right because you use words that have less than three syllables. This idea that simplicity is more truthful is utter bollocks and fails to take into account the sheer complexity of the universe

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 07:39:16 2019 No.13474835 >>13474825 C.O.P.E

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 07:45:37 2019 No.13474849
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>>13474825
Is it cherry picking to look at an entire journal?
You're right that a lot of shit gets published in STEM too, but there is at least the prospect that some of that collective knowledge will lead to tangible benefits beyond just paying somebody a salary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 08:48:52 2019 No.13475015 >>13473923 Read this http://www.anthonyflood.com/whiteheadeducation.htm

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 08:49:49 2019 No.13475016 >>13473928 Enjoying aesthetically pleasant things is kind of the point of people who're into literature and art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 09:36:38 2019 No.13475179 File: 13 KB, 657x527, Helper.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13474575 >>13474579 >>13474700 How come they never use these analyses to criticize blackness, or leftism, or LGBTwhatever? Why is it always the same dead horse?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:25:07 2019 No.13475346 >>13473923 lul, if there's any field of study filled with useless jargon and obtuse language it's STEM.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:39:23 2019 No.13475398 File: 43 KB, 641x491, comeon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13473923 >why doesn't everyone think and write in pinterest cliches? sincerely, question frog

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:55:52 2019 No.13475464 >>13474833 HE DID THE THING, OP

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:42:11 2019 No.13476582 >>13473923 >As a science person i am more into getting straight to the point and using the most basic of statements to make said point Moron.

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