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13464957 No.13464957 [Reply] [Original]

>supposed 10/10 "classic" book
>it's actually boring shite

Why is all literature like this?

>> No.13464967

>>13464957
Name one

>> No.13464977
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13464977

>>13464957
Because people have different things they value in literature. To me it's absolutely impossible to predict if a piece of media is a 10/10 before I consume it.

>> No.13464982

>>13464957
happened to me with les miserables, dropped after 30 pages

>> No.13464984

>>13464982
Lmfao you fucked up dude

>> No.13464997

lol what an absolute pleb, I’ve never read a classic that sucked. ask me about one and I’ll tell you now it was

>> No.13465009

>>13464957
>beloved classic for hundreds of years by every generation
>don't like it
>must be the book's problem

>> No.13465111

>>13464997
uncritical pseud

>> No.13465120

>>13464997
>imagine having literally no personal taste, everything that's popular is automatically good to you

>> No.13465153

>>13464997
looking for alaska

>> No.13465156

>>13464982
>he couldn't even make it past Bishop Bienvenu
haha, pleb-filtered!

>> No.13465203

Because you're a moron

>> No.13465212

>>13465120
>not understanding that books that hold up over centuries are objectively good and if you don't like them it's because you have bad taste

>> No.13465215

>>13464997
based pedestrian taste

>> No.13465239

>>13465212
>objectively good
oof

>> No.13465242

I've been burned a lot on highly-recommended genre literature. For example, Brian Aldiss' sci fi trilogy about that planet with centuries-long ice ages. Absolutely interminable, he uses technical terms as adjectives where they don't make any sense, such as describing a hill as 'syncline' which means the way the geological layers are oriented, it tells you nothing about what the hill looks like, and will be meaningless to most readers anyway. Each book follows the formula of setting up some big event or mystery, then meandering along with banal characters and ending with the event barely making an appearance. For example, in the first book a huge migration of an alien species is heading towards a human settlement. At the very end of the book some of the characters see some smoke in the distance. The conflict is never described, the fallout from never appears, and the reaction of the characters isn't explored.

Also, the presence of humans on this alien planet is never addressed, aside from some vague reference to them being natives of the planet. So an alien species just happens to have evolved into a perfect copy of an unrelated species. It's not even a Star Wars deal where the humans exist in their own universe without Earth, there are literally humans from Earth who visit the planet, and none of them show the slightest curiosity about the question of why there are humans on an alien planet. I could go an about this shit for ages, like the alien humans being able to contact the dead, which is never explained, it's literally just magic.

>> No.13465324

>>13465212
no such thing as objectivity with art retard

>> No.13465332

>>13465324
Literature has objective standards

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13465338

>it gets better after 100+ pages
DROOOOOOOPED

>> No.13465357

>>13465338
Yeah that's the same thing shonentards say about longrunning shonen action series. In actuality these series usually start off bad or start off good and rarely change by much in quality. If a writer you recommend me is supposed to be so great, then why can't he write the first 100 pages to be good too?

>> No.13465359

>>13465332
oof

>> No.13466003

>>13465357
Maybe his writing evolved while writing the series.

>> No.13466062

>>13465324
why not?

>> No.13466088

>>13466003
That definitely happens to basically every mangaka. But that would be a gradual change. You couldn't point out a place where it "gets good" especially when you're talking about a novelist, rather than a mangaka.

>> No.13466091

>>13464967
>Name one
As I Lay Dying

>> No.13466159

>>13465324
>no such thing as objectivity with art
retard

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13466173

>>13466091
tfw I loved this book

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13466185

>>13464957
This. Hot take? Picture of Dorian Gray was garbage. Debate me.

>> No.13466199

>>13466173
It pleases me that somebody did

>> No.13466209

friggin moran

>> No.13466257

>>13464967
Scarlet Letter

>> No.13466264

>>13466185
t. closeted self-hating gay

>> No.13466286
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13466286

1984 - hated it, hate Orwell, mediocre author

Moby Dick - loved it, greatest piece of literature from the USA

Ulysses - fantastic, pregnant with meaning, a literary maze

Farwell to Arms - mediocre, the army bits, romance meant nothing to me

Lolita - adored it, prose so good it makes you tearful

Pale Fire - cherish it, another great

Blood Meridian - great, second best thing to come out of the USA

The Trial - bored me, dropped it half way, began it again a year later from the top, bored me again to the finish

>> No.13466354

>>13466286

>the army bits, romance meant nothing to me

This is the opinion of a lowbrow clodhopping dunce

>> No.13466625

>>13466264
t. "Fufck I can't stop drinking in liquid shit fuck"

>> No.13466629

>>13465153
You have to be 18 or older to post here

>> No.13466631
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13466631

>Someone recommends me a 'classic'
>read synopsis
>look at author
>It's a fucking woman
AAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
HAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

>> No.13466639

>>13466631
Genji?

>> No.13466644

>>13466286
>reddit spacing
>likes nabokov
yup, into the cringe comp with you

>> No.13466747

>>13464967
The stranger

>> No.13466843

>>13465120
whom are you quoting?

>> No.13467142

>>13466747
>dude you don't get it it's too meta for you

>> No.13467151

>>13465120
It's almost as though there's an overwhelming consensus on what comprises great literature.

>> No.13467184

>>13466257
cringe

>> No.13467262

>>13467184
>le fucking A in the sky
okay Hawthorne, we got it the first fifty fucking times, stop it, not to mention the unholy mess that is the Custom House

>> No.13467386

>>13466199
Who wouldn't Faulkner is god tier

>> No.13467391

>>13467386
>Who wouldn't
I didn't

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13467596

>>13465009
> what you don't like this?
> ever.. ever..everyone likes it.
> you're supposed to like it too

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13467598

>>13465239

> everything is just opinion
quit the onions

>> No.13467604

>>13467598
>>13465359

quit the onions*

>> No.13467608

>>13467604
>>13467598
wtf onions? = S O Y?

>> No.13467611

>divine comedy
>wasn't even comedic in the slight
I'm a genius drowning in a cesspool of mediocrity

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>>13465009
>>13467596
>both arguments are strawmen

>> No.13467633

>>13467608
Lurk more.

>> No.13467632

>>13467598
>>13467604
>>13467608
>being this new
t.bh desu, s.oy onions, s.oyboy basedboy, f.am senpai, et cetera
lurk before you post

>> No.13467665

>>13467611
>thinking a comedy is necessarily funny
all it means is that there's a happy ending

>> No.13467733

>>13464967
The Great Gatsby

>> No.13467743

>>13467733
>boring

>> No.13467753

>>13467733
>boring

>> No.13467768

>>13467743
>>13467753
It's fucking boring.

>> No.13467773

>>13467768
Stick to reading for the plot.

>> No.13467795

>>13467733
You know, old sport, that's the point!

>> No.13467797

>>13466185
I've been underwhelmed by a lot of great literature I've read in the last few years, and sometimes I'm VERY disappointed. For example, I thought Fahrenheit 451 was garbage.

But I was blown away by The Picture of Dorian Gray. The only thing I didn't like was the ending. Why do you think it's garbage?

>>13466286
Agree with all of your assessments except for 1984.

And I couldn't agree more about The Trial--mediocre at best.

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13467911

>johnny swift
>religiopolitical ramblings with the prose of a child describing something in 100 pages that could have been done in 10, but insists upon breaking up the narrative with period specific bitching
>thinks he's being tongue in cheek the whole time but comes across more as a pseud too wildly impressed by his own metaphors to realize he comes across as monumental bore with the satirical prowess of a used condom

>> No.13467912

>>13467797
not him, but
>The only thing I didn't like was the ending.
I actually really liked the ending. personally, the part of the book I could do without was the chapter where it just went on and on about all the books he read a la Huysman's À Rebours

>> No.13467920

>>13467911
Nigga who told you anything by swift was above 8/10

>> No.13467926

>>13467911
OP said 10/10 books not 2/10 18th century presby babble

>> No.13467959

>>13467608
>>13467604
>>13467598
Based retard.

>> No.13467963

>>13466631
Based.

>> No.13467987

>>13467608
might as well return to r*ddit pal

>> No.13468029

>>13466747
good lord man

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13468293

>>13467795
Based