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Can you really fully appreciate literature if you haven't been in a relationship or had sex? Just about every work of fiction and a large number of nonfiction works concern romance and at least implied offscreen sex at some point. If you've never experienced these basic parts of the human experience how can you fully empathize with the characters? And before some smartass tries to interject with "I don't really need to have done this niche thing they do in the book to enjoy it," chances are that niche thing isn't as essential to the human experience as breathing, eating, and talking are.

>> No.13453193

>>13453176
Yes you can because imagination trump's everything. Even real experiences are enhanced by imagination. You think sex and murder are actually any different physically to fapping and cutting up meat? It's not. The experiences are built on imagination and expectations.
So it doesn't matter at all what you have or haven't experienced.

>> No.13453200

>>13453176
>Can you really fully appreciate literature if you haven't been in a relationship or had sex?
Yes. t. Virgin who appreciates literature.
>Just about every work of fiction and a large number of nonfiction works concern romance and at least implied offscreen sex at some point. If you've never experienced these basic parts of the human experience how can you fully empathize with the characters?
A lot of books feature murder. I don't need to be a murderer to understand and appreciate what's going on. You sound like someone who has no imagination.

>> No.13453204

>>13453176
The kind of people who say this will go on to berate "incels" for being obsessed with sex.

>inb4 that's a strawman
Are you gonna do something about it?

>> No.13453210

>>13453176
Most works of literature also feature murder, how can you really understand it if you never experienced it?

>> No.13453213

>>13453204
Have sex

>> No.13453216

>>13453193
>You think sex and murder are actually any different physically to fapping and cutting up meat? It's not.
Sex differs in the amount of/chemicals it releases than fapping--skinship is quite different from fistfucking. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16095799

>>13453200
>>13453193
>>13453210
>and before some smartass tries to interject with "I don't really need to have done this niche thing they do in the book to enjoy it,"
Murder is different from the act of cutting up meat. Of course it requires imagination, and of course the way an author conveys something is an important part of the quality of their work. But at the same time you won't fully get sex and relationships if you've never been in one in the same way you won't understand what it's like to be behind the wheel of a car until you learn how to drive.

>> No.13453219

>>13453216
>Sex differs in the amount of/chemicals it releases than fapping--skinship is quite different from fistfucking. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16095799
Not physically

>> No.13453223

>>13453176
True. Everytime I wake up I remember that I'm a virgin and thus not human, not even a mammal really. Nothing weighs as heavily on me as this. I should just go to a bar and try to get with a drunk fat girl, to become human but I'm too cowardly and pathetic.

The main point I guess is that none of my misery or loneliness is dignified, as a virgin, it's just ridiculous and childish really.

>> No.13453224

One of my brothers was a kissless virgin until his late 20s. Recently he started having sex, and he's also been plowing through a lot of Michael Crichton novels. He's constantly telling me how much he enjoys the books.

>> No.13453226

>>13453219
I mean yeah it does. Feeling another person's warmth against your skin is different from tugging on your peepee.

>> No.13453231

>>13453216
I'm willing to bet all money that VR sex will no different from real sex. Even though VR sex is masturbation. It's all based on psychology and imagination

>> No.13453233

>>13453213
Be thankful that I don't save those shitty onions wojack images or I would have attached that with a quote of your reply

>> No.13453234

>>13453231
VR has yet to simulate warmth and even if it did you'd still know deep down you're not wanted by another person

>> No.13453236

>>13453233
Oh yeah you really showed him

>> No.13453241

>>13453226
>>13453234
Only when you're aware of it. Turn off a persons awareness that other human beings exist on this planet, and it's no different from masturbation.

It all depends on the "you're with another person and you know it" psychology. Take that away it's nothing special

>> No.13453242
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13453242

>Be thankful that I don't save those shitty onions wojack images or I would have attached that with a quote of your reply

>> No.13453246

>>13453236
Be thankful that I don't save those shitty onions wojack images or I would have attached that with a quote of your reply

>> No.13453248

>>13453241
>sex is the same as masturbation if you jump through all these hoops that we can't even come close to yet
Face it you're not getting the full literary experience.

>> No.13453253

>>13453193
holy cope

>> No.13453254

I found the before and after experience to be on roughly the same level.

>> No.13453261

>>13453248
So you're saying experiencing murder in a lucid dream is nothing compared to the real thing? The emotions you experience are not the same?

>> No.13453265

>>13453216
I remember how i viewed relationships before having one, and i view them in the same way after a direct experience.
The problem at best is that those who lack the experience tend to overexagerate the positive aspects of it.

>> No.13453268

>>13453261
You're aware it's a dream if you're able to lucid dream, so yes. The ramifications of your actions would not be processed as they would IRL because it's not real. No different from doing it in a game.

>> No.13453278

>>13453268
I've had lucid dreams where I wasn't aware that it's a dream. My wet dreams are generally very vivid and feel exactly the same as when I made out with a girl when I was like 14.

>> No.13453281

>>13453176
If I can’t fully appreciate sex then how can I masturbate to it, huh?

>>13453210
>Most works of literature also feature murder
Wow really

>> No.13453285

>>13453268
When you don't know you're dreaming the emotions you feel in a very vivid dream are probably the same as those you'd feel irl. However the issue is that the brain discards the memories of the dream I guess that's what the main difference is

>> No.13453292

>>13453176
Coitus does not need to be depicted in literature. Sex speaks for itself.

>> No.13453871

>>13453176
that ear placement is very unrealistic. it should be behind her hair.

>> No.13453903

Nietzsche understood the Greeks better than anyone and he was virginal

>> No.13454026

>>13453223
this is probably a shitpost but it's only a few degrees past what i actually feel and believe