/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.1344385]

literary modernism: what is it?

[Anonymous No.1344389]

a lego chick sucking two lego dicks

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1344394]

http://www.brocku.ca/english/courses/2F55/modernism.php

the dominant is epistemological

[Anonymous No.1344601]

>>1344394
I expected better from you.

[Melancholy !.Due65wyfw No.1344667]

It's a general mood in late 19th and 20th century literature where writers try to break away from the established frames of how the world is understood. To put it simply you could say it's experimental literature, typical for being distrusting of former ways deeming the results of it, industrialization and its alienation of people among other things, negative.

An example from modernist art is Picasso thinking that the photorealistic way of painting is phony, and instead attempting to for example draw human faces from several different angles at the same time giving us his famous fragmented portraits. Another one who does something similar is Edvard Munch who instead of trying to depict how an evening in Oslo actually looks, instead also puts in the dread he sees in people by smearing their faces out, painting few details and giving them skeleton-like looks.

Likewise lot of modernist poets broke away from the established forms of poetry, instead opting for a free form that allowed them to make things as they wanted; and writers tried to depict reality in new ways, deeming the realistic, what we would now call movie-like, way of attempting to catch reality misfunctioning. For example one could look at Kafka's The Metamorphosis as a self-biography. If he had just written out that he had a bad relationship to his family, and that he felt that he was a burden, that wouldn't really help us feel how that is; so instead he depicted himself as a giant bug. Norwegian writer Knut Hamsun on the other hand wrote things one usually doesn't write about trying to show people as they truly are; for example giving us insight to humorous conversations he has with himself in front of a mirror and by giving us direct access to his streaming, wild thoughts.

[Melancholy !.Due65wyfw No.1344671]

>>1344667

Most of the modernists went very far with their attempts at dislogding from what they deemed as an unsatisfying way of understanding the world. Some of them went nazi, and others killed themselves. After World War 2, a cold war, and an even more complex society this identity crisis led to what you can call hysteria: Postmodernism. Everything is permitted, and nothing is true nor false; we're just fucking around.

I don't think this will last forever though. Rather I think things have already started to change. My bet's on so-called New Sincerity.

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1344679]

>>1344667
Hey look it's that faggot who chimes in once a month to show us how smart he is. Gosh it must be a real fuckin hard job copying that shit from MS Word as opposed to posting it up every minute of every day, like some folks who aren't backseat lazy-arse intellectuals

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1344691]

>>1344671
>Postmodernism. Everything is permitted, and nothing is true nor false; we're just fucking around.

loloversimplification, maybe u ran out of steam around here bro?

[Anonymous No.1344711]

>>1344679
>he posts on 4chan "every minute of every day"
>he ISN'T a backseat lazy-arse intellectual

never change, D&E.

[Melancholy !.Due65wyfw No.1344721]

>>1344679

I'm here all the time, I just usually forget to input my name unless I put any effort into whatever I'm posting.

I don't understand that part about MS Word and being lazy, but I'm very sorry if my presense bothers you .__.

If there is every anything I can do for you to make up for the harm I've caused you, just tell me, and I'll do my best. I really don't want any fighting or anything like that.

>>1344691

Well I think that everything is a simplification. Even words at their most basic level are just metaphors for their real life counterparts. So simplifications are the only way to communicate. OP also asked about literary modernism, and not postmodernism, so I didn't aim to write that much about that, just attempting to show "the end" of modernism quickly, so it was kind of purposly simple.

You say "oversimplification" though, so maybe you're right. Maybe I did run out of steam, and if did I'm sorry, but I did try my best...

[♥onionring♥ !Rrxa7zePwI No.1344732]

d&e is better than melancholy at least. one makes me laugh, one does not.

[Melancholy !.Due65wyfw No.1344757]

>>1344732

I'm sorry. But I think it's my name. I think, if you weren't expecting me to be melancholic all the time, you'd appreciate the laughs more... It's just that I wouldn't feel good about suddenly using a different name.

I can at least take comfort in knowing I've given it my best. If it's not up to your prefered standards, I can do nothing but apologize again...

[Anonymous No.1344790]

ITT: Melancholy comes off like a college student and D&E comes off like an elementary-school student.

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1344805]

>>1344790
hold on a sec bro let me just "forget" my trip to call you a faggot and make other shitposts that require no "effort"

man, this tripfagging business is pretty easy

[Anonymous No.1344832]

>>1344805

Yeah totally. Must be easy schmeasy calling samefag in tripfagland. Hey, I can attach interesting and unique pictures to show off my superior taste as well!

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1344850]

>>1344832
Whatever you butthurt lunatic, that has nothing to do with what I've said

[Anonymous No.1344865]

>>1344394
This link sucks ass, deep, shit-edged ass.

Melancholys input was better than yours and you're jelly.

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1344878]

>>1344865
>mfw I don't care

>Melancholys input was better than yours and you're jelly.
Not particularly bro, if someone wants to waste their time wiping ppl's arses for them that is their weakness, not mine. I am not interested in expending any effort as some sort of disgustingly swollen informational teat for degenerate halfwits who can't manage on their own.

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1344913]

>>1344865
also,
>probably Melancholy writing a post without "effort" and "forgetting" his trip

[Anonymous No.1344920]

>>1344913

ITT we're all Melancholy. Wut's wrong I thought you didn't like the long posts?

[Anonymous No.1344922]

ITT: D&E is master troll. let's see if anyone takes the bait:
>>1344878

[Anonymous No.1344943]

>>1344922

Fuck off D&E

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1344948]

>>1344943
Fuck off anon,
or should I say, melloncolon

[Anonymous No.1344952]

ITT: Tripfag ego circle-jerk

inb4 attempted witty response or good ol' fashioned "fuck you" from tripfag.

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1344966]

>>1344952
I am the best.

[Anonymous No.1344969]

>>1344671
>Everything is permitted, and nothing is true nor false; we're just fucking around.

I would like to vaguely quote Jacques Lacan by saying that if God is dead, nothing is permitted. My point being that even though your hasty generalisation seems "correct" according to academia (and his doxa), you're ultimately wrong insofar as post-modernity is still inhabited by the shadow of God /qua/ ideology.

Looks like our good friend Достоевский was wrong.

Captcha: I like D&E

[Anonymous No.1344971]

>>1344966

NO ME

But I really can't put Melancholy's trip on and tbh I've never even heard of this person before.

[Anonymous No.1344974]

>>1344671
Did you read that long lasting "what will come after postmodernism" thread a week back or so? Cause we all decided "new sincerity" is a DOA, its non-productive just nostalgic imitation, but lacking actual expression of its own.

[Anonymous No.1344977]

>>1344966

touché.

Seriously though tripfags, explain to me the appeal of having a web persona on 4chan. Doesn't it kinda defeat the purpose? I feel like that's more the realm of forums, etc.
Not trolling. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.1344979]

>>1344969

Lacan was a pseudo-intellectual, even moreso than Foucault. Haven't heard/don't remember that particular line of thought though; mind typing it out?

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1344986]

>>1344971
>I've never even heard of this person before.
I guess that's what happens when one only keeps one's trip on for one's smartarse posts

[Anonymous No.1344993]

>>1344974

I didn't see that, anon, but it sounds interesting.
Whatever it is will have to be honest, I think.
I'm really curious to see what The Pale King looks like in its (as close as it's getting to) final form.

[Anonymous No.1344994]

>>1344986

Quit trolling in serious threads please.

[Anonymous No.1345003]

>>1344986

Dat facebook name.

http://www.facebook.com/jamels1

[Anonymous No.1345004]

>>1344667
Modernism always struck me as a task that seemed to be focused on dissecting subjects, trying to understand them in terms of that which lies at their core, and at what point it is that we cross into "art".

[Anonymous No.1345006]

>>1344979
It's a commentaire on a famous Dostoievskiy quote ("If God is dead, nothing is permitted").

I can't find the source atm though.


You're right, he was a technician. Not an intellectual.

A founding member of the HERPADERPA collection led by you and your putrid mother.

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1345018]

>>1345003
oh shit.

the jig is up folks, I was a negro all along :(

[Anonymous No.1345033]

>>1345018
lol D&E is a blacky black

[♥onionring♥ !Rrxa7zePwI No.1345072]

what's up jamel

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.1345077]

shut up guys no-one's to speak a word of this to anyone, what went on in this thread stays in this thread

jesus christ I'll be ruined

[Anonymous No.1345083]

>>1345003

>Deleted his post
>Music: Trololololol
>Activities: If you know the difference between "your" and "you're"...
>About: THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST

I think it's him. He's also suspiciously not saging, perhaps as some sort of reverse psychology.

[Anonymous No.1345150]

>>1345006
The Dostoevsky quote is, if god is dead -- everything is permitted

[Anonymous No.1345168]

>>1345150
whopsa.
that was obvious.

[Anonymous No.1345197]

>>1345150
Hassan-i Sabbah final words are rumored to have been:

"Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted."