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/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General Anonymous Wed Jul 10 06:10:07 2019 No.13441921 [Reply] [Original]

OCCULT EDITION
>Post books that deal with the mystical arts
>What are you currently reading?

Monthly Reading for July: The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins

Monthly Reading books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

Fantasy:
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Flowchart:
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Science Fiction:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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Previously:
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>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 06:15:54 2019 No.13441941 First for sanderson is a waifu, lady a shit, and israel did 9/11

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 06:24:10 2019 No.13441957 Abercrombie is pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 06:26:48 2019 No.13441963 File: 58 KB, 674x720, memeLaw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13441957 Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 06:29:34 2019 No.13441973 I want to read about women who are essentially female Conan, especially with Howard style prose and storytelling. Where should I start?

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 06:39:51 2019 No.13441992
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Can anyone explain what's going on in the end of Tlön, Uqbar. Orbis Tertius? Like, I get that the world is turning out more and more like Tlön and that this disturbs Borges, but he acts as if it's a big reveletation that Tlön was made up, but he already knew that Tlön was made up! That was the premise of the story. The revelation should have been that Uqbar didn't exist, but Uqbar was never important in the story other than as the place that had made up Tlön.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 06:42:22 2019 No.13441999
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>>13441957

I dont agree. I liked the first law first book (mainly because of good character development in the barbarian arc) but second disapointed and the third I didnt finish and returned to the library.

Yeah thats right abercrombie, you hack, I paid nothing for your work and I didnt even Finish your SHITTY prose.

Im at least 3 times as good as Abercrombie

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 06:46:40 2019 No.13442011 File: 48 KB, 327x500, 51jAaoccw9L.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13441921 Starting pic related today.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 06:49:24 2019 No.13442020 >>13442011 Looks gay desu

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 07:24:20 2019 No.13442118 >>13441957 He’s alright, his works feel like they were made for a modern day tv show than a classic work of literature Fun read nonetheless

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 07:25:31 2019 No.13442120 File: 84 KB, 1280x720, ah yes, the far-flung future of 2015.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should sci-fi that takes in a year that has already come and gone IRL be re-classified as fantasy or alternate history?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 07:33:03 2019 No.13442138 File: 556 KB, 1655x1673, Discworld.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 07:56:43 2019 No.13442190 >>13441921 How can I put my dick in the thing in the OP pic?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 08:19:46 2019 No.13442237 >>13442190 LSD + $20 hooker in a $15 dress from Walmart.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 08:19:55 2019 No.13442238
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You fags could have told me that the curse of chalion degenerates into a perfect princess self insert when I asked if that was going to happen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 08:21:02 2019 No.13442241 >>13441973 A noose

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 08:51:15 2019 No.13442326 >>13442237 >LSD Acid doesn't make you see cool shit like that. It makes you obsess over angles, shapes and colors that are already there. If you want to see weird shit then you should go for something like shrooms or DMT.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 09:00:07 2019 No.13442344
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Anyone ever read this? I just started today and the 3 legged alien is cute. Is it worth anything though?

I'm writing massive space opera and I'm just consuming everything that's must-read, in order to build my repertoire.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 09:27:22 2019 No.13442405 >>13442344 > Anyone ever read this? You mean one of the most famous sci-fi books of all time? Nah, no one has ever read it. Some good ideas but sub-par writing and very dated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 09:30:53 2019 No.13442425 >>13442326 >He haven't done a large dose

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 09:39:54 2019 No.13442460

>>13442425
I have actually. Large doses of acid makes it difficult for you to focus and you get lost in your own thoughts but you don't really see things that aren't there. Acid enhances your perception so that the world appears more vibrant than when sober but it won't make you see things that don't exist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 09:41:15 2019 No.13442463 >>13441921 >nice picture >shit hands nnnnnnnooooooo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 09:58:16 2019 No.13442518 >>13442238 >womeme author Don’t act like you didn’t know what you were getting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 10:37:29 2019 No.13442637 File: 118 KB, 500x850, monthly_reading.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13441921 It seems like monthly anon has run away for good...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 10:47:43 2019 No.13442685 File: 1.31 MB, 1280x517, 15626927338450.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Recommend me a fantasy short-story collection. But not magical realism, actual fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 10:49:14 2019 No.13442690 >>13442011 Based, I loved that book.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:00:15 2019 No.13442731 >>13442685 cute

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:04:20 2019 No.13442744 File: 2.31 MB, 2123x1181, 1561743307779.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:18:50 2019 No.13442792 Any books released this year worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:28:44 2019 No.13442840 >>13442518 >>womeme author LMB is a great writer, hang yourself incel trash.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:30:26 2019 No.13442849 >>13442792 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:30:58 2019 No.13442853 >>13442840 If she's so great why does she feel the need to self insert as a 16 year old flawless princess?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:32:00 2019 No.13442855 >>13442792 CNo

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:39:50 2019 No.13442881

>>13442853
No idea why you're getting so hung up on a side character, the book isn't even really about her. I'd get it if you complained about the writer using a damsel in distress as a plot crutch but the princess doesn't even have enough of a role to say she's a self insert. It's pretty much all about Cazaril from the beginning until the end so I don't understand what's triggering you so much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:56:43 2019 No.13442958 >>13442792 Maybe

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 12:09:37 2019 No.13443017 File: 127 KB, 930x930, senlin ascends 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13442792 They're all sequels, but in my experience: The Hod King - Bancroft Moon Rising - McDonald Shadow Captain - Reynolds

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 12:11:29 2019 No.13443030 File: 22 KB, 220x328, 220px-NOS4A2_cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why is this book so fucking overwritten? did i just get memed? also recc me some actually creepy horror senpaitachi

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 12:25:18 2019 No.13443077 Are we ever going to get the Atheist, Muslim, or Jewish equivalent of Book of the New Sun? What would that even be like.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 12:47:49 2019 No.13443178
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>>13442881
>No idea why you're getting so hung up on a side character, the book isn't even really about her. I'd get it if you complained about the writer using a damsel in distress as a plot crutch but the princess doesn't even have enough of a role to say she's a self insert
When was the last time you read it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 12:50:34 2019 No.13443189 >>13443077 It would be Prince of Nothing which is just nihilism and pretentiousness.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 12:54:32 2019 No.13443214 Lads I need some more weird/occult horror along the lines of Laird Barron I've also been listening to the Magnus Archives and I'm on a kick of "unknowable horrors from beyond space", rituals, cults, etc

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 12:59:08 2019 No.13443234
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>still in the mood to read some bad bitches S&S after finishing Warrior Witch of Hel
>decide to check out the Red Sonja 6 book series written in the 80s
>the entire series is online, but only in German
>can only find books 1 and 5 in English
What madness is this?

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 13:11:33 2019 No.13443297
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>>13443178
Not that anon but I read it last month. If you seriously think the princess is a perfect self-insert, you need to get your head checked and then re-read the book. A female side character being competent and useful is not the same thing as a perfect self-insert. Go read some YA trash if you want to see a real self-insert perfect female character.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 13:21:07 2019 No.13443345 >>13442881 Everything is triggering him. Quite literally, everything. >>13443077 Jewish BotNS is Evangelion

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 13:22:09 2019 No.13443349 >>13443077 Muslim BotNS is Dune, mang.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 13:22:48 2019 No.13443354

>>13443297
>A female side character being competent
She doesn't put a single foot wrong in the entire fucking book you spacker. That's more than just being competent.
>Go read some YA trash if you want to see a real self-insert perfect female character.
Why when I could just re-read Curse of Chalion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 13:23:52 2019 No.13443360 File: 3 KB, 75x77, benuto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13443297 Stop giving him the attention he desperately wants.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 13:28:30 2019 No.13443385 > The Library at Mount Char That book was terrible. Tried too hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 13:29:12 2019 No.13443387 >>13443360 Yeah, I just figured out he was a troll, since the princess in question makes a mistake in like the second or third chapter of the book that she keeps in mind down the line. He would have known this if he'd actually read the book.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 13:36:46 2019 No.13443420 File: 20 KB, 265x374, at.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13441921 Holy shit, this was a fucking trip.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 13:56:14 2019 No.13443486 >>13441589 >What's the sci-fi equivalent of sword and sorcery? Planetary Romance or Sword And Planet it's closest to S&S. >>13441973 My waifu Jirel of Joiry

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 14:06:14 2019 No.13443520 >>13442344 >investigate starship >there are living quarters for women on this space ship >clearly the men needed some entertainment I miss 70s fiction

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 14:17:03 2019 No.13443572
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>>13443420
>Even now, it is sickeningly easy for beings to get lost in false grand narratives,
living out completely driven lives in pursuit of non-existent codes, ideals, climaxes and
golden ages. In blindly thinking that their stories serve absolute ends, such creatures
almost always end up harming themselves, if not those around them.
>To those like the misguided; look at the story of Man, and come to your senses! It
is not the destination, but the trip that matters. What you do today influences tomorrow,
not the other way around. Love Today, and seize All Tomorrows!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 14:20:27 2019 No.13443596 >>13443520 Do you think Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong fugged while Michael Collins was leering in the corner of the module?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 14:32:10 2019 No.13443666 >>13441973 Bloodsong Red Sonja

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 14:58:47 2019 No.13443812 File: 293 KB, 620x877, 36.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13443420 You might not like it, but this is what the peak of the human form looks like.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:08:51 2019 No.13443857 >>13443030 What do you mean "overwritten"? I thought the author overexposed the bad guys/things, is that what you're talking about?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:09:15 2019 No.13443860 I am planning to read the Lyonesse Trilogy. Is it really that good, /sffg/ bros?

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:12:50 2019 No.13443875

>>13440996
Takes a lot longer than a week to sort what one wants to read. I know.
Time really adds up quickly when going through so much.

>>13430053
Dying inside is indeed absolutely amazing. I didn't mention it because I saw it in the OP.

>>13442685
Collection or anthology? Collection tends to by one author, anthology tends to be by several.
What is "actual fantasy" to you?

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:14:31 2019 No.13443884

I have a problem where a lot of short story writers that I like haven't written any novels that I've liked. I know they are entirely different, but it still baffles me how there's such a disconnect.

I don't have any much problem with novelists that I really like and their short stories, if any.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:32:36 2019 No.13443963 >>13443596 If they were 2 years going to mars, probably

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:39:12 2019 No.13443993 I really like the Witcher World, but Ciri is an annoying cunt and the story is shit. What do you recommend?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:49:42 2019 No.13444034 >>13443993 Unironically my diary desu

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:51:39 2019 No.13444047

>>13443387
>since the princess in question makes a mistake in like the second or third chapter
>you din't know whether or not he was guilty!!1
>I mean he was, but that's not the point
So even when she fucks up she's in the right. Good job proving me wrong faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:58:51 2019 No.13444074 What does sffg think of NK Jemisin? I know she's sjw trash, but are her books any good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:00:57 2019 No.13444080 >>13443993 witcher main stories are shit. the shorts are where its at. also the games because they arent written by the book author.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:01:33 2019 No.13444083 File: 482 KB, 1304x1145, Screenshot_20190710-130018.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13444074 Forgot to post pic

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:03:50 2019 No.13444093 >>13444074 No. But you can look forward to her raping lovecraft’s mythos in the next year or two.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:09:36 2019 No.13444117 >>13443875 A collection. In the actual fantasy there is always swords and shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:14:48 2019 No.13444141 >>13444074 >but are her books any good? No.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:50:22 2019 No.13444256 >>13443963 That's hot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:51:46 2019 No.13444258 >>13444083 Remember when Africans were an enlightened peaceful network of countries? No, me neither. Because no one was until Europe made that shit work after we nearly blew ourselves up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:55:53 2019 No.13444273 File: 1.31 MB, 662x828, peter lorre.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13443812 >tfw too smart to be constrained by planetary gravity

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:58:21 2019 No.13444281 >>13442840 yikes, not a good look anon

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 16:58:32 2019 No.13444282
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>>13443234
If you're still looking for some check these
Demon in the Mirror by Andrew Offut
Silverglass by J.F Rivkin
Frost by Robin Bailey
Swordmistress of Chaos by Richard Kirk (aka Robert Holdstock the guy who wrote Mythago Wood)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:00:26 2019 No.13444286 >>13443860 yeah

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:01:15 2019 No.13444288 >>13444282 >Swordmistress of Chaos by Richard Kirk (aka Robert Holdstock the guy who wrote Mythago Wood) I got this guy's viking S&S trilogy in my queue. Probably gonna start in on it after I read this Red Sonja novel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:01:28 2019 No.13444290 >>13444034 Well come on then, post it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:10:33 2019 No.13444316 >>13444083 >Here's a story full of white people. they're all fucked up. they're screwing each other,they're cannibals,there's incest everywhere. Why does she say this as this was strange in scifi? she basically described every Heinlein novel

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:15:24 2019 No.13444335 >>13444316 But I doubt Heinlein was writing that stuff because he's a cunt who hates white people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:17:54 2019 No.13444346 Are litrpgs still popular? I feel like they've been dying out, or at the very least moved out of the spotlight.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:20:06 2019 No.13444361

>>13444258
I know, right? And it's totally white societies that have always been big into cannibalism and incest. Those heat maps that show those things belonging exclusively to non-whites and rare among east Asians are just pol propaganda. We wuz spiritually enlightened feminists n shiet

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:22:19 2019 No.13444367

>>13444074
She's a massive cunt who has a following because she openly hates white people which is apparently trendy these days. She does nothing but cry about how "da white man be putting me down" while simultaneously being propped up by the "industry" simply because she's a black woman. Also her books are utter garbage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:25:01 2019 No.13444376 >>13444367 whiteoid seething that whites aren't the main characters in her (very good) books

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:29:27 2019 No.13444390 >>13443234 Sharp Ends, Abercrombie. Lesbo take on Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:30:58 2019 No.13444396 >>13444390 >Abercrombie He's a literal meme author.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:31:38 2019 No.13444399 >>1344437bait Which one is good, and why?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:32:41 2019 No.13444404 >>>13441643 shadows of carcosa should be just what you're looking for

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:35:19 2019 No.13444413 >>13444390 >Abercrombie lol no thank you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:39:06 2019 No.13444422 File: 10 KB, 231x218, 1560629838939 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13444396 >Muh meme author Riddle me this, Grimderppler: did Abercrombie, or did he not, produce a book that provides bad bitches doing S&S shit? Right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:42:48 2019 No.13444434 >>13444422 >bad bitches doing S&S shit Typical brainlet Abercrombie fans. He has no place in the S&S genre. If you like his garbage then that's fine, but don't trick other people into consuming his shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:42:57 2019 No.13444436 >>13442011 Did not enjoy it, but then I never read it until maybe a year ago, in my mid 30s. Too goofy and self referential and juvenile imo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:43:59 2019 No.13444442 >>13442190 You ever see the little banner from >>>/x/? Go ask how to summen a sucubis

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 17:48:49 2019 No.13444474 >>13444282 >Swordmistress of Chaos by Richard Kirk (aka Robert Holdstock the guy who wrote Mythago Wood) Was not aware of this, I enjoyed the mythago wood books though, gonna check it out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 18:07:57 2019 No.13444565 >>13442685 >>13444117 The Complete Chronicles of Conan the Barbarian

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 18:14:17 2019 No.13444604
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>>13444434
>Talks shit on a book
>Hasn't read the book
>Constant samefaggery
>Accuse others of deception
I can't imagine the level of loneliness that drives you to be this emotionally invested, grimanon. Maybe get out and make some friends in the real world. It's not hard as long as you don't sperg out

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 18:23:55 2019 No.13444666 File: 300 KB, 2400x1603, Cyberpunk2077-Liz-Katz-22.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You guys are talking about fantasy AGAIN.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 18:26:04 2019 No.13444677 >>13444666 based dubs trips and hot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 21:33:31 2019 No.13445342 >>13444666 Would you rather berry your face in those cheeks or a good book?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 21:36:42 2019 No.13445355 >>13445342 >not having a huge ass row of women with the book written on their asses so you can enjoy asses and read the book you want

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 22:06:32 2019 No.13445447 >>13441921 So I am reading through Snowcrash and the author makes repetitive remarks about how stinky and obnoxious old spice is. The fuck? Was it the axe of the 80s or is my deodorant that fucking bad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 22:11:21 2019 No.13445459 >>13445447 Old Spice had kind of a reputation as an unfashionable brand until that ad campaign in the mid-2000s turned their image around.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 22:19:14 2019 No.13445489
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Gentleman (and the one woman looking at this) I am happy to say I'm taking a break from sci-fi and reading a little woo-woo now: Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson. Something something about Tim Leary's 8 circuit model of consciousness. It's got some good humor in it, but I haven't found a quarter on the floor yet by "willing" it. I like it, and yes I get it - question everything. I'm learning to take myself less seriously, and that has helped the most.

How is The Illuminatus! Trilogy? Is it even /sffg/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 22:35:47 2019 No.13445563 >>13445447 Old Spice is strong and recognizable, also Stephenson is a shit author. Snow Crash is a fucking cringe fest of garbage writing and edgy faggotry.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 22:39:10 2019 No.13445572 Damn I wish I could experience a lightning tribulation irl

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 22:39:16 2019 No.13445573 >>13445563 Yikes.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 22:40:31 2019 No.13445582
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Can anyone rec some /sffg/ audiobooks? I have a long as fuck commute every day and I like to listen to something while driving.
So far I've finished The New Sun, The Wheel of Time, and The Black Company series. I'd like to find some more long book series that will last me a while, but shorter ones are fine too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 22:41:32 2019 No.13445585 >>13445582 The Culture series, my friend. Listen/read in publication order. (You may skip Consider Phlebas if you like)

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 23:02:21 2019 No.13445651

I wrote a short story about a Conan-Clone that goes around fighting pirates, killing savages, and sleeping with exotic women. I'm currently in the process of writing a final draft of it. After I'm done with it, what do I do with it?

I've never written anything before, and I'm nervous about how people will respond, if at all. I'm not wanting to make a career out of writing, I just want to write stories about big burly barbarians and curvy clothless courtesans.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 23:04:59 2019 No.13445663

>>13445651
>How people will respond
You gotta make people read your work and then care enough to review it and then said review reach you. Just do it man. Worst come to worst its a cool hobby and some people might call you an idiot and others call it meh, at the very best you get rich and famous or shit, or in this case since you dont want a career, some community and people to chill with.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 23:05:03 2019 No.13445665 >>13445651 Make a royalroad account, post it and share the link here

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 23:05:09 2019 No.13445667 I'm tired of all the deconstructions, recommend me some degenerate shit /sffg/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 23:08:49 2019 No.13445683 >>13445667 Strange Relations by Philip Jose Farmer

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 23:12:09 2019 No.13445699 Haven't read a fantasy book in a couple years, went searching for one and realize every book is written by a woman or about a girl

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 23:27:00 2019 No.13445755 >>13445667 What do you mean by degenerate

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 23:27:07 2019 No.13445756 File: 770 KB, 1200x1800, 1559797769754.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13445585 Sounds neat. Downloading it now. Is the first book unrelated to the others or what?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 23:28:33 2019 No.13445764 >>13445756 The books in the series all take place in the same universe, just many many years apart and with different characters. Also some folks are torn about the first book, but I enjoyed it.

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 23:46:58 2019 No.13445823

>>13445489
>>13445489
>but I haven't found a quarter on the floor yet by "willing" it

Reading Prometheus Rise and Quantum Psychology in 2019 as opposed to 1999 can be a wild trip. Travel back in time to the date of publishing and imagine how things were then.

>>13445489
>How is The Illuminatus! Trilogy?

The audio book can be a fun listen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 23:52:34 2019 No.13445847 >>13445651 Post it here. I'm down for some s&s kino

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 00:07:51 2019 No.13445899 >>13445651 >I just want to write stories about big burly barbarians and curvy clothless courtesans. Understandable, but I hope you at least TRY to make your Clonan somewhat his own character.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 02:28:01 2019 No.13446277 >>13445699 "went searching" where? most authors I see on the shelf are still men

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 02:47:44 2019 No.13446320

>>13445899
My plan is to flesh him out more in other stories, but for now he's pretty rough around the edges, as far as personality goes. I'd say he's more lecherous and foolhardy than Conan, and more calculating. There are a several other major differences, like background and beliefs that set him apart.

Basically the only thing that makes him similar to Conan is that he's a Big unstoppable murderfucker whose rolling across Sword & Sorcery-land with a hunger for gold, gore, and girls.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 02:52:35 2019 No.13446337 File: 146 KB, 879x592, horseclans.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is the Horseclans series any good? Because the covers are pretty great and they're making me want to check it out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 02:58:13 2019 No.13446352 >Cazaril doesn't even die in the end This book really shit itself

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:07:15 2019 No.13446371 >>13446337 Looks cool desu

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:09:32 2019 No.13446378
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>start writing story filled with dumb anime tropes for fun, like mecha, space politics, and scheming edgelord characters
>ripped off a ton of stuff like Gundam, LoGH, Eva, and other sci-fi anime
>always thought it was unpublishable so I started putting it up online on various sites

Should I try sending it to a publisher anyways? I'm almost done with the fourth ~24k word volume. Are there publishers who put stuff like this on the market?

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:10:37 2019 No.13446384
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>>13446371
It's ridiculous how far the quality for cover art has dropped for fantasy and sci-fi over the years. I'm assuming Horseclans was a middling seller (if even that) yet the cover art for these books stomps a fucking mudhole in pretty much all covert art for modern bestsellers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:11:39 2019 No.13446389 >>13446320 Give him a sidekick of some sort. S&S needs more bros being bros protags.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:13:01 2019 No.13446391 >>13446337 Yes,good entertainment with no deep meaning just a bunch of bros fighting evil nerds.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:15:16 2019 No.13446398 >>13446391 Have you read all of them? Is there a stopping point where the series becomes shit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:18:34 2019 No.13446407 >>13446384 Bad covers should be punished. Either art colleges dont teach skills anymore or the publishers are saving money on the artists

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:20:41 2019 No.13446414
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>>13446378
The worst that happens is that it gets rejected. Then you can just self publish. If you can market yourself right, maybe as a slick new progressive writer breaking boundaries and sticking it to The Man, then you have a chance at making money.

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:21:08 2019 No.13446417

Why the hell don't people talk about Mary Gentle? Rats & Gargoyles didb't really work out, but this Orthe shit is incredible.

Any other recs for sf in this vein (anthropologist making early first contact with intelligent species on his/her own). The first Orthe book is at least as good as Left Hand, and def better than A Woman of the Iron People

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:28:37 2019 No.13446435

>>13446389
I've got a lot of ideas regarding sidekicks and bros that he'll meet up with in future adventures. In this first tale he saves a mischievous young lady from the clutches of some pirates, and she plays tagalong for the course of their adventure. Which leads to some interesting and hilarious stuff happening.

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:38:07 2019 No.13446471

>>13446398
I read up until book 12.
You can stop with the first book or the 3,but every book tries to be stand-alone,like those conan comics from marvel,book 11 is pretty much the end,all the books after that are mostly prequels/midquels and or so i've been told,but even before that the series had some prequels,book 7 is set 30 before the events of book 1 for example so the series always liked to jump on the timeline.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:57:39 2019 No.13446515 >>13446471 And all the books you read were decent?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 04:51:58 2019 No.13446664 File: 128 KB, 611x672, image_0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13446435 I cringe slightly at your post but also slightly intrigued. Post some of your stiff here sweety

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 05:33:44 2019 No.13446774
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Just over halfway finished with this and I'm surprised at how good it's been so far. Nothing really original or that would ever win any awards, but some very solid S&S that I would recommend to even those virgin geeks who don't read S&S. Also I think modern media has poisoned me so badly that when I read these older novels with female protags I expect them to have some degree of man-hating feminist bullshit despite the writers being men and they just aren't. I'm sure the Red Sonja film being made will be nothing but man-hate, but there's none of that crap here (so far anyways).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 06:20:57 2019 No.13446891 >>13445582 almost all of Asimov's works are available as audio books on youtube and the like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 06:22:21 2019 No.13446898 >>13445651 >big burly barbarians and curvy clothless courtesans truly, it is the golden age of alliteration

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 07:51:02 2019 No.13447178 File: 1.06 MB, 798x1212, 1503459766718.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13443077 >Jewish equivalent of Book of the New Sun The golem and the meme

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 07:52:56 2019 No.13447183 >>13444282 >the guy who wrote Mythago Wood So it's probably shit like mythago wood

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 07:55:21 2019 No.13447193 >>13443385 You mean you couldn't find the sparknotes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 07:58:49 2019 No.13447208 >>13443572 Swing shift is out on audio yesterday. Why does audible release books on Tuesday?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 07:59:51 2019 No.13447213 >>13443860 No

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:08:50 2019 No.13447240

>>13444346
Western chinkshit is the new litrpg.
Also original chinkshit is enjoyed by brainlets because they where bullied in school, and they can self insert as the protagonist who is all powerful.
It's why they say western chinkshit is trash. The protag doesn't start as a killing fucking machine they can self insert as.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:11:10 2019 No.13447244 >>13444666 >i find you freaky and like you a lot Take your 3dpd ninja used up pussy elsewhere.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:14:11 2019 No.13447249 >>13445355 >>13445342 >flatlet brainlets consider those flat asses fat No wonder America is into pedophilia when you are attracted to asses that 11 years old boys have.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:24:54 2019 No.13447274 >>13446384 >>13446337 Fuck off these covers are shit. All they needed to do is remove the helmet and give the guys long hair, and it would be the shit romance books I used to see my mom read decades ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:33:14 2019 No.13447292 >>13447274 >getting this triggered over masculine looking men lol Jesus Christ, zoomer. Society has really done a number on you hasn't it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:36:39 2019 No.13447302 >>13447292 >implying I'm a zoomer Fuck off. Every thread you shit on "modern covers", and this is what you place up there as the pinnacle?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:42:33 2019 No.13447320 >>13447302 At least you didn't deny the portrayal of masculine men triggers you, ZOOMER. Now go question that sexuality somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:49:04 2019 No.13447340 >>13447302 Show a good cover then? The horseclan covers the (arguably based) anon posted awakened multiple warrior genes in me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:52:29 2019 No.13447350 >>13447340 >Show a good cover then? I hope he posts a cover from an artist that has been working for decades and claims it's a modern cover kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:57:32 2019 No.13447362 >>13447320 >>13447340 It looks like a cheap frazetta imitation

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 09:01:38 2019 No.13447371 >>13447362 Cheap Frazetta imitation > modern covers. Now post a modern cover, BY A MODERN ARTIST, you think is better, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 09:08:42 2019 No.13447391 >>13447371 No

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 09:26:07 2019 No.13447442 >>13447391 That's what I thought, bitch.

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 09:37:06 2019 No.13447463

>>13447442
i'm not the other anon. i'm not going to get in a shitfight about what is "modern", what is "good", etc. Probably less than 5 percent of what i read is "modern", and since none of those books are picked out from a bookshelf the covers mean nothing to me. I can just recognize a trite, insipid cover when I see one

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 09:38:32 2019 No.13447464 >>13447463 That's what I thought, BEEYATCH.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 09:53:43 2019 No.13447507 File: 420 KB, 1240x2092, BASED.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 09:54:45 2019 No.13447512 File: 59 KB, 500x661, AS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 09:55:46 2019 No.13447515 File: 133 KB, 773x1000, FUCK.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 10:33:43 2019 No.13447672 >>13447240 Apologize and rip out your own tongue, and I will spare your clan

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 10:36:31 2019 No.13447683 >>13447515 >gurps >shits on Malazan >reading this roleplay shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 10:38:08 2019 No.13447691 >>13447672 >>13447240 I just realised that Guy from naruto was a cultivator.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 10:44:44 2019 No.13447714 >>13447683 You are extremely retarded if you don't know the difference between an RPG based on a book series and a book series based on an RPG. Now go be a faggot somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 10:50:51 2019 No.13447730 File: 3.51 MB, 1469x2200, 6f5dc46a5d566143493dc736cbe202f18b4c2f77.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There we go with the fantasy AGAIN.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 11:29:43 2019 No.13447901 >>13447240 >The protag doesn't start as a killing fucking machine they can self insert as They tend to early fucking on though. >regularly killing other people with no issues in their early teens, if not tweens

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 11:31:30 2019 No.13447908
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>>13447240
>The protag doesn't start as a killing fucking machine they can self insert as
They tend to early fucking on though.
>regularly killing other people with no issues in their early teens, if not tweens

Forgot my image :-)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 11:38:01 2019 No.13447926 Is Dragon Ball xianxia?

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 11:38:26 2019 No.13447931

>>13447672
These bugmen books make me so mad how you have to kowtow to powerful people. Or how they pick on you and try to rape your girl and you release your seals and they bow and beg forgiveness. They were going to kill you and rape your girl, and because they saw they bit off more than they could chew they beg to spare their lives. Shit gets me mad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 11:40:34 2019 No.13447944 >>13447730 The chink on the right is ugly and the one on the left looks like a fake whore. Just use their vag then discard them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 11:43:39 2019 No.13447954 >>13447714 No. Have sex fa/tg/uy. >>13447908 I like how (because he is Chinese) he doesn't have the chad giant dick bulge.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 12:12:33 2019 No.13448064 >>13447926 Techncally, no. There is no cultivation or any Daoist elements. Even though immortality is a prevalent theme in the series it is not the goal of the MC, which it needs to be for it to qualify as xianxia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 12:34:59 2019 No.13448148 File: 8 KB, 193x261, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] gib robots goy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 12:49:01 2019 No.13448209 File: 36 KB, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13441921 Do you like your magic systems to be extra hard? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvloDEpgj9U&list=UUw--xPGVVxYzRsWyV1nFqgg

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 12:54:01 2019 No.13448233 Any of you guys like Red Rising? Just finished book two and nearly shat myself over the ending.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 13:28:36 2019 No.13448379 File: 2.89 MB, 1908x1066, SANDERSON AND MALAZAN XD.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13448209 I LOVE MAGIC SYSTEMS!!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 13:44:13 2019 No.13448436 >>13446515 Yes. >>13447730 Nice thighs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 13:46:33 2019 No.13448447 >>13448379 But Malazan's magic system is pretty soft?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 15:00:10 2019 No.13448773 >>13444346 How would you define "litrpg"? Like, basically animu in novel form? I can't stand Burando Sandaasu

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 15:53:54 2019 No.13449086
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I finished the Eisenhorn trilogy and really enjoyed it. I've seen people say it was one of best 40k books with most others being trash. If there are no other good ones it got me in the mood for some similar books. Any recs for sci-fi mystery/adventure/action?

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:31:25 2019 No.13449270
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>>13443077
I'm interested in reading BotNS, but I'm a booklet and something took me off guard
I understand that it's comprised of four volumes, but the total page count for Book of the New Sun itself is 950 pages, whereas the page count for all four volumes combined is 1225 pages
what's the deal with that?

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:33:47 2019 No.13449281

I'm conflicted, guys. I want to write a story I genuinely enjoy. I think I can bust onto the fantasy writing scene with a big blockbuster book, but the time it would take makes me want to try a smaller, simpler project.

How do one-off fantasy novels fare in the market? I want to test the waters and my writing skills before going for something overly grand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:35:06 2019 No.13449288 >>13448233 The first was some Hunger Games ya bullshit and the writers prose is trash but it was decent after that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:39:35 2019 No.13449315 File: 67 KB, 934x960, 1561653276308.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13449086 Ravenor by Dan Abnett

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:42:42 2019 No.13449331

>>13449281
>How do one-off fantasy novels fare in the market?
They don't, especially not ones from new writers. To have any kind of success in the standalone fantasy market as a new author, you need to touch upon the realm of "magical realism" which is essentially fantasy lite that appeals to mainstream audience, so basically you need to shove some sjw ideologies into it and set it in Africa or some other shithole.
Or you can try being a woman writer, even better if you're a black woman writer

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:48:41 2019 No.13449366 File: 195 KB, 1659x969, 20190711_233954.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Which one is next /sffg/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:50:21 2019 No.13449380 >>13449366 Dune, by Frank Herbert

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:50:51 2019 No.13449382 >>13449281 Don't listen to this guy, anon >>13449331 Non-series do perfectly fine, he's just a retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:50:55 2019 No.13449383 >>13447362 and that's why it's based

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:53:04 2019 No.13449393 >>13449380 I meant to say which one of these should I read first.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:58:27 2019 No.13449422 >>13449393 Then read The Island of Doctor Moreau

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:58:31 2019 No.13449423

>>13449086
As much as I like Abnett's comics, I never liked his books. As the previous anon already stated, I guess you'd do well with Ravenor though.

>>13449366
Those the ones you finished or the ones on your list? if on your list the The Stars My Destination

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:58:50 2019 No.13449427 I finished Going Postal today, fantastic, but I always find Discworld stories overstay their welcome just a tiny bit. Is Guard Guards worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 17:08:32 2019 No.13449482 >>13449427 Supposedly it's the best one, but I prefer the Death Stories. Try your luck, Discworld novels are, after all, always good for a chuckle at least.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 17:15:08 2019 No.13449515 >>13449427 Well I thought Guard Guards was the best fwiw. It felt like a proper novel that just happened to have a Discworld setting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 17:39:49 2019 No.13449639 >>13449427 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 18:21:58 2019 No.13449809 >>13442344 I'm about to read it so I'll post a review for you in a week.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 18:50:52 2019 No.13449945 File: 56 KB, 959x958, 1562427903331-sp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13442344 >Cute 3 legged alien >Not Clark Ashton Smith I'm honestly surprised. Have some big latina tiddies

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 19:26:58 2019 No.13450137 someone pls post the litRPG charts

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 19:29:17 2019 No.13450147 >>13449945 Omg who is she, source? Pls look at those tits man, just look at them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 19:37:46 2019 No.13450177 >>13450147 >doesn't know how to use reverse image search that is right in front of him. why are you this stupid?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 19:44:21 2019 No.13450192 >>13449270 anyone capable of helping a tard like myself out?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 19:56:31 2019 No.13450231 >>13449366 I'd go with The Island of Doctor Moreau, it's a great read and its fairly short.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 20:04:26 2019 No.13450269 Wrote a scene where the protagonist accidentally fucks his mom. Where do I go from here?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 20:08:21 2019 No.13450290 >>13450269 You win a Hugo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 20:09:52 2019 No.13450297 >>13450269 Publish

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 20:09:58 2019 No.13450298 >>13450269 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3j2m31S6U

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 20:33:58 2019 No.13450392 >>13450269 Make the next time not an accident.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 20:34:22 2019 No.13450394 You are seeking death!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 20:34:48 2019 No.13450395 >>13450192 different font sizes maybe?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 20:40:20 2019 No.13450422 >>13450269 Like the other anon said don't make it an accident next time and just go all out. Don't worry about incest being divisive, as long as both parties are attractive enough then you're fine even if they're mother son.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 21:28:59 2019 No.13450665 >>13450147 IDK, I saved it a while back. Image search says Martina Finnochio, so I guess she's actually Italian

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 21:30:21 2019 No.13450675 >>13450422 Post it faghot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 21:39:50 2019 No.13450735 >>13450147 Calm down incel

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 21:59:57 2019 No.13450853

have there been any good recent tranhsumanism/posthumanism science fiction books? The last thing in that vein I read is the bobiverse trilogy and reynolds elyisum fire and shadow captain + peter Watts Freeze Frame Revolution

I already read everything Revelation Space, Peter Watts and most of Greg Egan's stuff as well as the Quantum thief books. I like grand scifi with very high tech, don't like old scifi much that was written before the internet was a thing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:02:37 2019 No.13450870 >>13450853 The most recent major transhumanist work of any note are the Count to a Trillion books. But they're subtly about how transhumanism is kind of a spook. Wright's earlier Golden Age books are probably closer to what you're looking for.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:07:38 2019 No.13450891 >>13450870 Yeah I actually already downloaded all the count to trillion books, its what i plan on reading next. Already read and liked the Golden Age books. Anything new cyberpunk/nanopunk would be cool too

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:15:53 2019 No.13450919 >>13450891 found void star and thin air by morgan, i'll add those

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:16:33 2019 No.13450921 >>13450853 >>13450891 So you read accelerando?

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:20:08 2019 No.13450934

>>13450921
Yeah
For the past 4 years I have been devouring anything remotely cyberpunk/postcyberpunk
It's only kind of fiction that gives me the same feeling I had when I was a kid reading fantasy

The singularity won't happen but it's nice to dream about, it's my blue pill ersatz for nihilism

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:24:21 2019 No.13450948 File: 45 KB, 222x372, A monkey attempts to think.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >NorthWALKER >NorthSTRIDER Hmm

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:40:26 2019 No.13450996 >>13450948 In the original Chinese it’s totes different

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:48:10 2019 No.13451033 File: 136 KB, 1600x1106, 45675674574.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are there any books that are set in a flat world?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:49:06 2019 No.13451035 >>13451033 Basically all xianxia

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:53:28 2019 No.13451053 >>13451035 Bullshit. Some of the xianxia I've read are more sci-fi than real sci-fi with trillions of planets and interstellar travel. Not once have I encountered a flat world in any chinkshit that I've read.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 23:25:52 2019 No.13451189 >>13451033 Tales from the Flat Earth by Tanith Lee. Warning though: Lee is a chick, BUT she's one of the few chick writers worth reading.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 23:48:04 2019 No.13451277 >>13450853 >>13450853 Not that I know of, but seeing how cyberpunk is going to be the new meme genre for the next few years I don't think you'll have to wait long

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 23:59:51 2019 No.13451316 >>13451189 Not that guy, but I read Two Lions, a Witch, and a War-Robe in an anthology a while back and was impressed. Been considering reading something of hers. Anything I should start with?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 00:04:13 2019 No.13451336 >>13451316 Tales from the Flat Earth, Birthgrave, and Wars of Vis seem to be her most popular stuff so start with any of those I guess.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 00:27:40 2019 No.13451414 >>13442744 Name of artist?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 00:32:28 2019 No.13451435 >>13441921 I rewatched Ghibli's Tales from Earthsea and got reminded how underrated and great it is, think of finally picking up the books. Any opinions on them? How are Le Guin's other fantasy works, anything worth reading or is it all SJW shit?

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 01:01:29 2019 No.13451536

Red Sonja ran, striking down anything in her path. A bloody, blinded trooper staggered before her; Sonja killed him with a single stroke—but assassination was a kindness compared to what gnawing rats had done to the soldier’s face. Sonja stumbled and almost fell across a still living young man whose grotesquely swollen body was being endlessly penetrated by countless hornets—to him, too, Sonja dispatched a fast and blessed end.

BRUTAL.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 01:12:23 2019 No.13451576 File: 25 KB, 631x300, garbage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13451435 If you like postmodernist crap like modern art and modern architecture then by all means check out Le Guin since she's the literary equivalent of pic related.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 04:16:29 2019 No.13452081 >>13451536 >you will never be gangraped by hornets

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 04:19:59 2019 No.13452096

>He was great of stature, both tall and broad. Barrel-chested and gigantic, but not in the malformed manner of an ogre. His skin rippled with the muscles of a veteran warrior, and that skin had a reddish tan. Upon it were painted long flowing serpentine patterns in bright red, especially around his sword-arm. His armor, chiefly a breastplate, greaves, and helm, was a gold-bronze which shined like the sun. On that armor were carved fine and intricate patterns, with similar motifs to the long flowing warpaint on his skin. Attached to the breastplate at the back was a flowing cape of fine fabric, coloured red with nearly dazzlingly bright yellow-gold knotwork patterns. All about the man was the energy of the Solar, bright and shining and red and almost impossible to look upon and take in all at once.
is this any good for a beginner

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 04:28:04 2019 No.13452126 >>13452096 Kinda bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 04:31:46 2019 No.13452133 >>13452096 You tried. Too much trying to wax poetic about a character's clothing or appearance is cancer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 05:21:12 2019 No.13452264 >>13451033 discworld, literally in the name

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 06:08:47 2019 No.13452389 File: 230 KB, 1000x1499, 4 - 7Iy2yzP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally a discussion about something other than fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 06:21:25 2019 No.13452425 >>13451277 >cyberpunk is going to be the new meme genre for the next few years >new genre Do you even read? Unless you consider litrpg cyberpunk.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 06:26:55 2019 No.13452444

You know what's bizarre? Random cussing in a story that doesn't fit at all. This Red Sonja novel >>13446774 I just finished had 3 instances of cussing ("shit," "assholes," and "get fucked") and they were all random and felt wildly out of place; especially the "assholes" and "get fucked" lines which happened back to back near the end of the book whereas "shit" popped up around the middle. Actually dragged the story down for me a bit because of how ridiculous it came across. I've never read any book with this kinda random cussing and only 3 instances of it. It was like whoever edited this book stuck them in there for a laugh.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 06:39:12 2019 No.13452464
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Someone nominated this one for monthly reading and it had me thinking about how lame it was. The monster on the cover doesn't appear in the story. It's mentioned somewhere in the middle of the book but then the writer just forgets about it and it's never mentioned again. Makes you wonder how much an author who could do such a thing respects his readers or his craft. The story is a lazy promotion for the author's wicca beliefs anyway, and it's hard to take a person who believes in such things seriously.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 06:49:34 2019 No.13452493

>>13444074

She has Lovecraft's racism without any of his new ideas. I like some of the concepts she presents in Fifth Season, but it all reads like a mixture of the smut your mom waxes off to while your dad's at work and a sincere hatred and disgust of people that are different from her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 07:24:48 2019 No.13452575 >>13445667 Riders of the Purple Wage. That shit's all about incest, fucking, and degeneracy into political action cafes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 08:00:20 2019 No.13452675 >>13451033 Technically, you can count Silmarillion until the end of the story of Númenor, since the world was flat until Eru made it round.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 08:29:09 2019 No.13452789 Thinking of including a rape scene for every named female character in my story. Some of them could be grouped together so it wouldn't be more than 5 or 6 scenes. Is this a bad idea?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 08:47:10 2019 No.13452870 >>13452789 It's your story. Do whatever the fuck you like. Since you only seem to care about the rape I wouldn't worry about quality.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 08:54:34 2019 No.13452922 >>13448053 >tfw Suzie references Earthsea and I remember I've been meaning to buy the full series >went on Amazon and ended up picking up another book entirely Fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 09:01:41 2019 No.13452944 >>13452870 >It's your story ;) but I'm going to make a passive-aggressive comment about how your writing is bad because rape offends me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 09:10:54 2019 No.13452976 >>13452444 Aww. Did your Christian feelings get hurt? Sodomy must make you livid. >>>/gif/anal

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 09:12:41 2019 No.13452982 >>13452944 It doesn't offend me, it's simply boring.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 09:14:39 2019 No.13452993 >>13452982 I don't believe you. If you just thought it was boring there would be no need to make a comment like you did.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 09:23:58 2019 No.13453036 >>13452976 Nice try, bugman.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 09:38:53 2019 No.13453104 >>13451033 Flatland (d'oh). Flattest of them all.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 10:36:21 2019 No.13453388

>>13452464
I vaguely remember reading something years back--I even want to say it may have been a Sanderson interview or some sort of interview--but there was a mention or suggestion that authors in (IIRC, both) fantasy and sci-fi don't have control over their cover art unless they're hugely popular.
However, it is a vague memory and I could be completely wrong but I think of it every time you faggots bitch about covers (which is every fucking thread). I'll try to research the topic when I have a bit more time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 10:37:52 2019 No.13453395 >>13452944 Please lurk for at least two years until you learn how to properly greentext.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 11:10:00 2019 No.13453535 whats /sffg/'s consensus on neil gaiman? considering ordering some of his books but id like some opinions first so i know what im getting myself into.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 11:13:56 2019 No.13453545 >>13453535 He's a bitch ass limey faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 11:15:16 2019 No.13453549 >>13453388 I know that Lois McMaster Bujold sincerely hates her covers because they're Baen covers, but the one time she overruled marketing the book sold poorly so she never made a fuss of it again

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 11:19:39 2019 No.13453565 Reading Desolate Era makes me wish Yerin was the MC instead

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 11:35:36 2019 No.13453631 >>13453535 He peaked with Sandman (which would have been mediocre as prose instead of a comic) and has been coasting on it ever since. If you try to "get into" Gaiman you'll be disappointed.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 11:37:40 2019 No.13453641

>>13452493
based take.

She was shilled hard even when she was writing garbage. I thought the Fifth Season showed a noticeable improvement in her writing style, but the sequels demonstrated that she has about zero self-awareness and, like you said, just hates everybody who isn't like her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 11:39:05 2019 No.13453648 >>13447931 This is unironically good insight into the Chinese mindset.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 11:40:18 2019 No.13453652 >>13449270 Different print runs -- font, spacing. I wouldn't worry about it.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 12:39:19 2019 No.13453831
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Someone bluepill me on Andre Norton. Currently reading The Toads of Grimmerdale because it was suggested as a good horror/fantasy story. Is the rest of her Witch World stuff worth checking out?

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 12:45:50 2019 No.13453848
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>>13448209
>Sanderson writing advice
If your book doesn't have a lot of women heroines it's bad! Go to a publisher even if they don't actually help you with anything nowadays that self-publishing doesn't already do! Aged women and homos should gatekeep all fantasy literature it's their prerogative shitlord!
And this guy pretends to be a mormon.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 12:48:59 2019 No.13453865

>>13449366
Ubik is pretty cool and mindfucky without being too late PKD to be good. One of his best works really.
Alfred Bester is just great and The Stars My Destination is one of his better ones though I prefer The Demolished Man I think.
Barely remember Ringworld beyond the psycho cowardice of the puppeteers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 12:52:08 2019 No.13453877 >>13453848 Did... did he actually say all that?

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 12:57:59 2019 No.13453897

>>13453848
>Go to a publisher even if they don't actually help you with anything nowadays that self-publishing doesn't already do!
You should refrain from making statements about the publishing industry, you don't know what you're talking about. Just in case you seem to think this is some form of Sanderson defense, it isn't, he's a hack but you are also a moron.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 12:59:23 2019 No.13453902 >>13453897 Traditional publishing is dying and good riddance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 13:03:07 2019 No.13453918 >>13453902 Maybe it's dying or maybe it's just in a state of transition, who knows, it's a complex issue. In either case if you think a NYT best selling author is better off self publishing in the current industry, you're an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 13:06:54 2019 No.13453929 >>13451576 The worst of all possible takes on Le Guin. What is remotely "postmodernist" about her work?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 13:21:05 2019 No.13453964 >>13453929 The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas Pure postmodern garbage. Even won a fucking Hugo for that shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 13:49:51 2019 No.13454044 >>13453964 Please explain what postmodernism is to you and what is postmodern about that story.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:08:30 2019 No.13454118 >>13453964 Oh god

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:09:55 2019 No.13454126 >>13454044 >Please explain what postmodernism is to you Garbage. >and what is postmodern about that story. It's garbage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:10:04 2019 No.13454128 >>13453964 >postmodernism Hello Dr Peterson, care to explain what that term means?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:10:34 2019 No.13454133 >>13452096 It's too much; blurs the image in the mind before you even finish describing it. Just say three things, stop, and let the rest trickle in later.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:13:29 2019 No.13454146

>>13454128
Postmodernism, also spelled post-modernism, in Western philosophy, a late 20th-century movement characterized by broad skepticism, subjectivism, or relativism; a general suspicion of reason; and an acute sensitivity to the role of ideology in asserting and maintaining political and economic power.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:16:11 2019 No.13454158 >>13454146 Very nice, you can copy/paste a definition Care to explain what that means in the terms of literature? How is the book postmodern?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:18:35 2019 No.13454171 >>13454158 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ones_Who_Walk_Away_from_Omelas#Publication_and_analysis >It has been at times analyzed as a postmodernist work.[10]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:34:40 2019 No.13454242 >>13454171 So Wikipedia, citing literally who, informs your dislike of her whole oeuvre based on one short story? Unironically, yikes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:41:36 2019 No.13454296 File: 67 KB, 960x736, 1562940397418-tv.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13454242 >Hates whitey >Hurr muh stronk xerples of colour >Not postmodern What did xir mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:44:38 2019 No.13454313 >>13454296 Why was it so predictable you would be /pol/?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:47:09 2019 No.13454327 >>13454296 Oh look, nothing but buzzwords

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:48:48 2019 No.13454331 >>13454313 I'm not the guy you were taking to, anon. And I'm not from pol, I'm formerly chuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:50:27 2019 No.13454336 File: 48 KB, 654x913, a8e1cc1d324df723ca65a043306d331c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13454327 And yet, you can't refute them. Imagine that

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:52:28 2019 No.13454348

I decided to look what female authors I've liked, though that's complicated by pen names.
F&SF = The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction

non-novels:
Still Tomorrow's Going to Be Another Working Day Amy Griswold F&SF 733 September/October 2017
By the Light of the Electronic Moon Angelica Godorischer F&SF 707 May/June 2013
Savant Songs Brenda Cooper Year's Best SF 10
The North Revena Ladies Literary Society Catherine H. Shaffer Year's Best SF 18
The Trader and the Slave Cinda Williams Chima The Way of the Wizard
Stable Strategies for Middle Management Eileen Gunn Best of the Best: 20 Years of the Year's Best Science Fiction
Kormak The Lucky Elenaor Arnason F&SF 708 July/August 2013
MetaPhysics Elizabeth M. Glover Sympathy for the Devil
Collector's Item Evelyn E. Smith The Golden Age of Science Fiction 10
What Do You Do? Gillian Flynn Rogues
Last One Out K.B. Rylander F&SF 726 July/August 2016
Wilder Still, The Stars Kathleen Ann Goonan Reach for Infinity
A Love Supreme Kathleen Ann Goonan Year's Best SF 18
Freezing Rain, a Chance of Falling L.X. Beckett F&SF 738 July/August 2018
Cupid's Compass Leah Cypess F&SF 727 September/October 2016
Attitude Linda Nagata Reach for Infinity
Nahiku West Linda Nagata Year's Best SF 18
Anything For You Lisa Mason F&SF 727 September/October 2016
An Unearned Death Marissa Lingen F&SF 732 July/August 2017
The Egg Man Mary Rosenblum The Year's Best Science Fiction 26
Alexandria Monica Byrne F&SF 729 January/February 2017
Act One Nancy Kress The Mammoth Book of Best New Science Fiction 23
Exegesis Nancy Kress Year's Best SF 15
Liberty's Daughter Naomi Kritzer F&SF 701 May/June 2012
High Stakes Naomi Kritzer F&SF 704 November/December 2012
Solidarity Naomi Kritzer F&SF 706 March/April 2013
Containment Zone: A Seastead Story Naomi Kritzer F&SF 713 May/June 2014
Jubilee: A Seastead Story Naomi Kritzer F&SF 717 January/February 2015
The Silicon Curtain: A Seastead Story Naomi Kritzer F&SF 720 July/August 2015
Evil Opposite Naomi Kritzer F&SF 733 September/October 2017
Liberty's Daughter Naomi Kritzer Year's Best SF 18
Rings Nina Kirki Hoffman F&SF 731 May/June 2017
The Properties of Shadow Nina Kirki Hoffman F&SF 737 May/June 2018
Speech Sounds Octavia E. Butler Wastelands
The Desert of Vanished Dreams Phyllis Eisenstein F&SF 726 July/August 2016
My English Name R.S. Benedict F&SF 731 May/June 2017
Morbier R.S. Benedict F&SF 738 July/August 2018
The Lady Who Plucked Red Flowers Beneath The Queen's Window Rachel Swirsky The Year's Best Science Fiction & Fantasy 2011
The Day of the Nuptial Flight Sarina Dorie F&SF 714 July/August 2014
A Mother's Arms Sarina Dorie F&SF 724 March/April 2016
Suicide Watch Susan Emshwiller F&SF 739 September/October 2018
Hhasalin Susan Palwick F&SF 709 September/October 2013
The Deepwater Bride Tamsyn Muir F&SF 720 July/August 2015
Widdam Vandana Singh F&SF 735 January/February 2018

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:59:45 2019 No.13454390 >>13454171 >>13454296 pottery

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 15:02:30 2019 No.13454407 File: 1.09 MB, 200x270, 1518051756531.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13454348 >female authors

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 15:04:43 2019 No.13454418 >>13454407 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosociality

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 15:07:57 2019 No.13454433 The Word for World Is Forest by Ursula Le Guin is good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 15:44:10 2019 No.13454641 I decided to look what female authors I've liked, though that's complicated by pen names. non-novels:

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 15:46:38 2019 No.13454660 >>13454641 Nice incel joke!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 15:51:57 2019 No.13454688 >>13454348 Do you have a resource to get the newer F&SF mags? Been looking and I can't find them online

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 15:55:31 2019 No.13454709 >>13454660 >>13454418 Yikes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 16:11:56 2019 No.13454794 >>13450948 >NorthSTOMPER

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 16:17:47 2019 No.13454830

>>13454688
I've been subscribed since 2012 for the Kindle.
Grandfathered in special price of $0.99 per month, so $2/issue.
I've exported to them to Calibre and can read them on the PC if I want, lose access to them after a year, and I'd rather not, but I haven't bothered to remove the DRM to share them. Currently requires my Kindle serial number to access.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 16:31:41 2019 No.13454902 >>13454348 Based anon who actually post stuff about books

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 16:35:28 2019 No.13454917 File: 268 KB, 493x460, SNEED.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13454296

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 17:18:28 2019 No.13455130 File: 34 KB, 602x769, DGRxIzKVwAQIFq7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Now you guys are talking about postmodernist garbage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 17:29:01 2019 No.13455192 >>13454830 Damn that's a good price. I'll keep looking, I'm sure they're out there somewhere

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 17:40:24 2019 No.13455254 >>13455192 Maybe. The circulation for all mags is rather low.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 18:41:10 2019 No.13455630 >>13455130 The abyss strikes again

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 18:42:09 2019 No.13455638 >>13455254 I found a torrent a while back but I only downloaded a couple issues. Big mistake. Clarkesworld, Asimovs, and Analog are all pretty easy to find but not F&SF for whatever reason.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 19:50:00 2019 No.13455997
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I liked Hitchhiker so I read Douglas Adams's Dirk Gently books and what the fuck I don't understand the ending in either book. I don't understand how the "solution" in the first book resolves anything and in the second book it's like it just builds up to a climax and then skips the scene where Dirk presumably defeats the villains and then we see the villains get defeated and the happy ending.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 19:51:55 2019 No.13456006
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>>13455997
Oh yeah and what's with the title of the second book? I get that it's vaguely funny but what does it have to do with the plot? Actually, it's kind of the same situation with the Hitchhiker sequels, each book is just a phrase taken from the first book.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 20:07:00 2019 No.13456081

>>13455997
The books are written to be fairly convoluted, the first more so than the second, so it's understandable that you wouldn't get the full extent on a first read; I don't think most casual readers would without a corkboard and red string. It might have been just because I first read them when I was fourteen but there was a lot of stuff I didn't get until my second read.

The ending of the first book doesn't "resolve" anything in the sense that the alien ghost is still around and now has a time travel clone, but they do manage to stop it from undoing its mistake and prevent it from trying again via indirect means. That's pretty much the best they can do since the established rules of the plot state a ghost can't actually go away until it feels it's finished its unfinished business. Also you're right that the end of the second book feels really abrupt, that's why I feel like it's the weaker of the two.

>>13456006
The title is a callback to the bit in Life, the Universe, and Everything about Wowbagger going insane with boredom due to his immortality, and how what really gets him is teatimes on Sundays. The same more or less applies to the Norse gods in the book, who are well past their prime and are just trying to fritter away eternity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 20:19:47 2019 No.13456139 >>13456081 About the first book: really? But how does changing the plot of the poem Rime of the Ancient Mariner actually affect the events that take place in the book? How does it prevent them from taking the ghost back to the distant past?

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 20:51:17 2019 No.13456278

>>13456139
According to the book, Coleridge wrote Rime of the Ancient Mariner and Kubla Khan under the influence of the ghost, which couldn't keep a hold on him because he lost his buzz. Kubla Khan is about the paradise the aliens were going to build on Earth, and Rime is about the ghost's torment of accidentally dooming the ship. The important thing is that the second half of Kubla Khan, which doesn't exist in real life, describes in detail the process by which somebody might undo the ghost's mistake in the past, create the paradise, and subsequently prevent all of Earth's history from happening. Wenton-Weakes becomes vulnerable to the ghost's influence, in part, because he reads Coleridge when the ghost attempts to grab a hold on him, and he knows what to do because of Kubla Khan. By causing the second half of Kubla Khan to be lost, they lessen the influence the ghost has on any minds in the future, and prevent any explicit instructions from surviving. An established detail is that a spirit's power waxes and wanes irregularly, so the ghost can't just keep trying to possess people at full strength.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 21:12:48 2019 No.13456388 Litrpg is honestly pretty awful and cringe

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 21:44:46 2019 No.13456515 >>13453535 Sandman is pretty great. Stardust is standard fantasy but fun and very tightly written. Neverwhere may also be alright if you want Fallen London isekai. Everything else is pretty boring.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 22:03:28 2019 No.13456568 Why can’t anyone write some good settlement building litrpg without stupid gimmicks

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 22:04:23 2019 No.13456570 >>13456568 >good >litrpg There's your problem.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 22:11:47 2019 No.13456594 >>13456568 Daniel Black. But sadly he has the harem gimmick.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 22:13:32 2019 No.13456606 >>13456568 Release that Witch if you dont mind chink shit. Its not a litrpg and it has some gimmicks though

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 22:13:51 2019 No.13456608 >>13456568 >settlement building litrpg without stupid gimmicks the ten realms.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 22:17:25 2019 No.13456623 Discussing Litrpgs is punishable with death by virginity. >>13456614 >>13456614 >>13456614 >>13456614 >>13456614

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 22:47:14 2019 No.13456711 >>13456568 Maybe out there somewhere there's a light novel that does this to your satisfaction.

Anonymous Sat Jul 13 04:36:10 2019 No.13457788

>>13453877
More or less but less directly honest of course. It's from his writing class on youtube.
He defends publishers and their agents who gatekeep books without "strong heroines" because "lol those books aren't any good anyway" and tries to deflect from publisher agents being of a single type of people after a single type of book (read: old women and homosexuals).
>>13453897
Yeah nah, he even admits they barely can help you out anymore beyond getting paid upfront or setting up book signings and that's only really if they're part of the Big Five.
He still shills them anyway despite not coming up with m(any) positives.

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