/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13406746]

What are some books like The Wire?

[Anonymous No.13406762]

The Wire isn't good anon

[Anonymous No.13406812]

>>13406762
I know that, I just want a book I can compare it to when shitting on it, i.e. 'The Wire sucks dick, it's just a discount ________ with more niggers.'

[Anonymous No.13407103]

>>13406746
Demons from Dostoevsky

[Anonymous No.13407107]

>>13406746
Balzac's La Comédie humaine is The Wire in 19th century France.

[Anonymous No.13407193]

Moby Dick is p much just the wire, only with whalers instead of cops and whales instead of black people. Maybe the other way around depending on how you see it

[Anonymous No.13407293]

Why hasn't television reached the same artistic heights as literature, cinema, and music?

[Anonymous No.13407492]

>>13406746

The Corner - which was the basis for The Wire

[Anonymous No.13408066]

>>13407293
too many people involved, too much emphasis on profiting from the show.

[Anonymous No.13408073]

>>13407293
It has.

[Anonymous No.13408074]

>>13407293
There have been some great TV shows though.

[Anonymous No.13408179]

You could try the book written by the guy who directed and wrote The Wire.

[Anonymous No.13408242]

>>13406746
Unironically War and Peace, it is the book that David Simon was seeking to imitate clearly. I can't really think of anything remotely similar to The Wire besides that.

[Anonymous No.13408310]

Bleak House

[Anonymous No.13409164]

>>13406746
Crime fiction type stuff in a noughties ghetto dealing with race and shit? Try George Pelecanos. I read some of his stuff in a genre class in uni and wasn't fussed, but it's probably right up your alley

[Anonymous No.13409171]

>>13409164
Oh I forgot to mention he even wrote some episodes of the Wire apparently, so yeah

[Anonymous No.13409380]

>>13408074
What are they? The only notable show I've seen a significant amount of is the Sopranos and that's too formally challenged to be considered a masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.13409385]

>>13406746
The Other Wes Moore has black people

[Anonymous No.13409545]

>>13408073
Is that the only one?

[Anonymous No.13409550]

Clockers

[Anonymous No.13409598]

>>13409545
Nope

[Anonymous No.13409712]

>>13407293
*ahem*

[Anonymous No.13409755]

>>13409712
See
>>13409380
The editing is hilarious and the direction is trite.

[Anonymous No.13409813]

>>13409755
Outspoken novelist Norman Mailer said this very thing in an interview for Tampa Bay Times on February 1, 2004, about 7 weeks before this episode aired:

Tampa Bay Times: In The Spooky Art, you said a communication of human experience, of the deepest and most unrecoverable kind, must yet take place if we are to survive. Do you still have hopes that the Great American Novel can be written?
Mailer: The Great American Novel is no longer writable…You can’t cover all of America now. It’s too detailed…People didn’t get upset if you were a little scanty on the details in the past. Now all the details get in the way of the expanse of the novel.

A contemporary audience may find that television is a more viable medium than literature in its ability to be both detailed and expansive simultaneously, in large part due to the very nature of a successful TV series—hours and hours of material spread out over a period of years. In the same interview, Mailer cites The Sopranos as a prime example of this new paradigm, a work that can “loop into a good many aspects of American culture.” I am more optimistic than Mailer in believing that the literary world can still produce the Great American Novel. But I also genuinely believe that in the last 30 years or so, there has been no work created in the United States—in any medium—that communicates the experience of being American, and even the experience of being human, more powerfully than The Sopranos does.

[Anonymous No.13410102]

>>13406762
Of course The Wire is good. God, this fucking board is trash.

[Anonymous No.13410486]

>>13406746
Homicide by David Simon. That's the book that the Wire is based on. David Simon made the Wire because he wrote that book. A bunch of things that really happened in "Homicide" he just put in the Wire. Now kill yourself you fucking nigger lover.

[Anonymous No.13410523]

>>13406746
I watched like 5 episodes from the TV series's 1st season and it didn't stuck, I just dropped it, can't say I liked it. Should I watch a few more episodes? A lot of people have told me this is one of the greatest series ever and several online articles confirm it.

[Anonymous No.13410642]

>>13409545
there's also deadwood

[Anonymous No.13410653]

>>13410523
Yes. Season 1 is a very slow burn. It took me about 6 months of "getting around to it" to finish the first season. I then watched the rest of the show in a month. It's really good.

[Anonymous No.13410801]

>>13409380
Mad Men for sure

[Anonymous No.13411484]

>>13410523
It's way overrated by liberal whites who feel that it is "woke" television. It's not really bad, but if you've seen any HBO shows you've already seen it, if you get what I mean. Like >>13410486 said you might as well just read the book, it's more informative, just as good as entertainment, and has some unique insights.

[Anonymous No.13411529]

>>13411484
It's not that it's "woke" television. It's that it does what most television shows refuse to do. Give a long formatted narrative without main characters, yet still developing those characters enough to be engaged with the story. It provides a realism that even those who experienced the drug war said it was accurate. It was written by authors and journalists instead of screen writers and it shows in the consistency and depth the show goes through to portray the drug war. I know you want to blame it on niggers and gooks and ((them)) but its one of the best experiments that has ever been put to television. While other HBO shows do what it does, the wire doesn't use a central character as a crutch to deliver its narrative, and in that way they can blur the lines of morality within what people generally think of as a black and white field of human experience. It's a fascinating show, and I definitely believe that words on paper have done what it attempts to do better, but for the medium of television it's ground breaking.

[Anonymous No.13411541]

>>13406746
Omar's diary desu

[Anonymous No.13411543]

>>13411529
That's like being impressed at a really complex Playskool toy. It's, uh, cool I guess. Congratulations?

[Anonymous No.13411549]

>>13411529
>yet still developing those characters enough to be engaged with the story.
Nope. I quit in season 2. Fuck the wire, it's for whites who feel guilty about their skin color and dummies who unironically look up to drug dealers.

[Anonymous No.13411566]

>>13406746
>The Wire
Midwit: The show.

[Anonymous No.13411571]

>>13411543
But isn't that everything at that point? Eh. I enjoyed it. To each their own.
>>13411549
I originally watched it because of bane posting, but stayed for the rest of the shows good qualities. But yes, sure, white guilt and all that!

[Anonymous No.13411587]

>>13411566
This is all that needs to be said, really. It's mediocre, which is much worse than being low brow.

[Anonymous No.13411594]

>>13411587
Are you in the camp that thinks all television is bad or do you think there are better shows than the wire?

Elaborate on your shitpost please.

[Anonymous No.13411606]

>>13411594
It's not a shitpost. He's right. Intelligent people are too busy thinking and appreciating deeply to be entertained by a gimmick like the wire. LOL did you see the detectives investigating a murder scene and all they said was fuck 47 times loooool brilliant!

Smart people can enjoy something simple, like wrestling or sports or whatever. They have no patience for tedious writers.

[Anonymous No.13411610]

>>13411594
>Elaborate
No.

[Anonymous No.13411613]

>>13411606
>>13411610
These two posts are of the same quality.

[Anonymous No.13411631]

>>13411613
>These two posts are of the same quality.
So you're saying anon's premise is correct, then?

*pats you on your 115 IQ head*

[Anonymous No.13411695]

>>13411631
No, you’re extracting conclusions that were not in the post to justify your opinion. But that’s okay, we can have different opinions.

[Anonymous No.13411739]

>>13407293
Pic related is the closest that I can think of.

[Anonymous No.13411756]

>>13411695
>no
>hurf durf just no
>i'm right
(You)

[Anonymous No.13411773]

>>13411756
I wasn’t given much an opinion to argue against, so I lowered myself to the same level as your posts. I can hurf durf with the best of them. Why write anything out when the response will just be no u

[Anonymous No.13411793]

look at mah teef... niigahwrote Homicide- david Simon.
mistah potato head teef cost mo' than yo' car nigguh.
shwazzle dazzle son

[Anonymous No.13411842]

>>13409813
>that communicates the experience of being American, and even the experience of being human, more powerfully than The Sopranos does.
it's literally mafioso shit that's aged horribly

[Anonymous No.13411854]

>>13411543
Isn't chess just a really complex Playskool?

[Anonymous No.13412365]

>>13411606
lol 2deep4u

[Anonymous No.13413554]

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[Anonymous No.13413556]

>>13413554
w-what?

[Anonymous No.13413568]

>>13413556
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[Anonymous No.13413630]

>>13413568
Kai, get off 4chan.

[Anonymous No.13413743]

>>13413630
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[Anonymous No.13414364]

>>13411543
>>13411854

Isn't pussy just a complicated anus?

[Anonymous No.13415721]

>>13411549

[Anonymous No.13416183]

>>13406746
'Ere ya go