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>When you stop laughing at people who kill themselves and start identifying with them because you're close to the edge yourself
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>> No.13398354
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>OP laughed at suicidal people

>> No.13398359

I'd say I'm pretty depressed and lonely but I have never ever considered taking my life. Is it just a giant meme or are people actually willing to take their lives?

>> No.13398366

>>13398359
I was like you but life eventually weighed so heavy I started entertaining ideas of death. I thought I was immune, but it gets to you eventually.

>> No.13398375

>>13398354
Fuck off and die you dumb cunt

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>>13398375
Suicide isn’t funny.

>>13398366
>life eventually weighed so heavy
Life is just there. It’s your messed up body chemistry messing up your perspective. It’s not an eventuality

>> No.13398393

>>13398386
Whores know nothing of life as a man, everything is handed to you on a platter whenever you want it. Shut the fuck up.

>> No.13398403

>>13398352
Death is only change. The suffering will still be there just with new circumstances.
Do i seriously need to comment this on every one of these edgelord threads?

>> No.13398405

>>13398352
OP this is your theme song rn
https://youtu.be/igILhbNWvlk

>> No.13398417

>>13398403
>The suffering will still be there just with new circumstances.
Not for me. After I die there's nothing.

>> No.13398421

>>13398352
>laughing at people who kill themselves
Kys.

>> No.13398437
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so what

>> No.13398463

>>13398417
that's a massive assumption to make

>> No.13398470

>>13398463
I don't see how. Do you think dogs have something waiting for them after death? Fish? Mite's?

Well why not? Humans aren't special, consciousness doesn't elevate us above the universe. You'll die one day anyway, so what difference does it make if it's today?

>> No.13398474

>>13398437
Fuck off faggot.
>hurr love the struggle it's all you need bro
Says the famous, rich french author who had women on his dick 24/7.

>> No.13398480

>>13398470
>Do you think dogs have something waiting for them after death? Fish? Mite's?
I do think they aren't annihilated at death, actually. I'm not an eternalist or Christian btw.

>> No.13398484

>>13398480
And you think this because?

>> No.13398536

>>13398484
There is nothing I can prove to you empirically, but it seems reasonable to me (though probably not to you) for a couple reasons.
1. If we are judging experience as it is (apart from identification with the physical body, only including the fundamentals which are universal to sentient beings ie some arrangement of seeing, smelling tasting, feeling, thinking, without regard for the specific contents of the senses), then all we have to go by is the present moment/our present experience, which is not nothingness or annihilation. To suggest that this all disappears at death is to suggest that something fundamental will actively change about experience as we know it at death. Unless you're a materialist, this is a massive assumption to make with no reason to support it.
2. The most sophisticated ancient civilizations (Greece, India...etc) and their most important philosophers/teachers, believed in transmigration at death just as much as European people have believed for so many years in the eternal soul that goes to heaven. I tend to think that this isn't a coincidence. Transmigration/reincarnation was the norm until Christianity took over.

>> No.13398538

>>13398536
>To suggest that this all disappears at death is to suggest that something fundamental will actively change about experience as we know it at death
Yes, your body dies and with it your consciousness.

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>>13398352
>Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
Because there's a chance that I will live to reach longevity escape velocity, and get to live in a post-Singularity utopia.

>> No.13398545

>>13398541
Yeah a-any day now

Giga cope

>> No.13398547

>>13398538
So you are a materialist then. You assume that consciousness is produced by the physical body. There is no way of proving this. This is an assumption.

>> No.13398556

>>13398403
>>13398536
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Cases_Suggestive_of_Reincarnation

>> No.13398564

>>13398545
http://www.unz.com/akarlin/aubrey-de-grey-getting-more-optimistic-on-life-extension/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxEwI1bjZqU

>> No.13398567

>>13398536
>1
did you go to sleep last night? do you have experience before birth?
>2
you can't separate religious claims of afterlife from claims of paranormal or siddhis, which now no one can display

>> No.13398569

>>13398547
>You assume that consciousness is produced by the physical body. There is no way of proving this
Where else would it come from?

If it was anything BUT from the body, why wouldn't there be animals with consciousness?

>> No.13398571

>>13398484
Not him, but you realize at some point you started experiencing the world, yes? At some point in the process, your consciousness came about. Constructed in the womb molecule by molecule. Like other anon I don't believe in afterlife, or eternity. "You" sure as hell won't feel anything given that the parts of you that feel will be scattered. But don't you find it a little strange that things started? That your window of experience that you claim will close indefinitely somehow was opened?

>> No.13398592

>>13398571
>But don't you find it a little strange that things started?
No.

It's no stranger than eyes or ears. Consciousness is an overdesigned piece of shit, but everyone thinks it has to have a purpose or it wouldn't be there.

>> No.13398595

>>13398592
>...he concludes. With his overdesigned piece of shit

>> No.13398599

>>13398595
Yes actually. And?

>> No.13398611

>>13398592
I'm not claiming it has a purpose, I'm saying that I don't think we get out of this bitch so easily (as in, just by simply dying). I'm not claiming that consciousness persists after dying, I'm just pointing out that your consciousness became.

>> No.13398613

>>13398547
remove your brain then, since you clearly don't need it

>> No.13398615

>>13398386
The only people who think "suicide isn't funny" is people who haven't given it a shot themselves

>> No.13398652

>>13398592
And actually your insight that "its no stranger than eyes or ears" I very very much agree with. It is no stranger than eyes or ears, but this is sort of my point. You realize that the current manifestation of your eyes and ears is contingent on your environment yes? That water is pumped from the body to them, that cells must constantly absorb material and reproduce, and then die. I should maybe ammend, and say that it is def not YOUR consciousness that will survive death. But are your eyes YOUR eyes?

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>>13398569
>why wouldn't there be animals with consciousness?
For a second time, I think animals have consciousness, bugs and insects as well.
You are only aware of your physical brain as a result of your consciousness. You are trusting that your senses are giving you a true representation of an objective reality.

>> No.13398715

>>13398613
>because I can't hear the radio stations without any radio that means the radio waves don't exist

>> No.13398766

>>13398352
>feel suicidal
>masturbate to 2D girls or play vidya
>don't feel that suicidal anymore
The poison that's killing me is also the antidote keeping me alive. I suppose that's true for drug addicts aswell though

>> No.13398789

>>13398715
Consciousness is not a radio wave.

It's contained entirely in your brain.

>> No.13398795

>>13398766
When alcoholics go too far gone, they're literally healthier drinking than not drinking. They die if they go cold turkey.

>> No.13398798

>>13398715
>there's a reason to believe that consciousness comes from outside the brain
enjoy your nobel prize, faggot

>> No.13399188

>>13398352
My humor has gotten darker to cope with a darker worldview.
>>13398359
People usually abstractly think about it, or intentionlessly hope for it, long before they become willing to do it themselves.
>>13398386
>messed up body chemistry
What if my body chemistry is naturally messed up in response to the horrors of the world we live in? Have you ever seriously confronted suffering? Tried to help other people, outside of maybe your immediate social circle? It's exhausting and disheartening to earnestly try to change the world for the better, but it's ugly and monstrous to disregard others' pain to protect a cloistered contentment. Epicurus had no sense of social responsibility, « Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Imposter #23, and neither do you. See: >>13398375
>>13398766
>>13398795
You can wean.

The rest of this thread is trash.

>> No.13399851

>>13398393
You know nothing about me. I’m a working class nobody that has to get everything on my own. I’m against prostitution, so this characterization is hysterically baseless too.

>>13399188
>you ever seriously confronted suffering? Tried to help other people, outside of maybe your immediate social circle?
Yes, i have. A lot.
>It's exhausting and disheartening to earnestly try to change the world for the better,
And here I am, still trying.
>but it's ugly and monstrous to disregard others' pain to protect a cloistered contentment.
I’m not disregarding. I’m here trying to help.
>Epicurus had no sense of social responsibility
Most of the mans writing was destroyed, cut him some slack
>and neither do you
I notice you aren’t placing this on the OP who thinks its funny to commit suicide.

>> No.13399899

>>13399851
>You know nothing about me
You're a woman, open your legs and the world falls at your feet. Fuck off whore.

>> No.13399905

>>13398352
Listen up pussy, I'm out here fucking beautiful women every week, having meaningful friendships, getting natural highs from exercise and adventure, advancing occupationally by the merit of my own work, treating fairly all who treat me fair in return, loving deeply, following my intuition. Life is beautiful, what's more life is all there is. If you've thought it out and you really want to kill yourself it must mean you want for nothing from life in which case you are empty, soulless, never should have been born and will be missed by none when you leave. But is that you? Or are you letting your depression be an easy way out of the work your life requires? Work is the only secret to life. Be your own master. It's as simple as that. It's a choice. Life or death? All or nothing? Yes or No?

>> No.13399907

>>13399851
maybe you should stop namefagging, namefag

>> No.13399915

>>13399899
A gross misrepresentation of women. In your minds eye you see nothing but porn stars and the vapid teens who rejected you in high school.
I’m a lesbian besides. Fucking moronic take. Please take that in. You are wrong.

>> No.13399923

>>13398352
I met my best friend

>> No.13399930

>>13399915
You have spent 5 years larping as « Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » , why?

>> No.13399941

>>13399915
>A gross misrepresentation of women
No, it's the truth. You could go out tonight, sit at a bar and within 20 minutes some guy will buy you a drink and give you a place to sleep for the night. Then if you employ a modicum of self respect, he's likely to want to see you a lot more and eventually let you live with him. And what did you do? Was it your stunning conversation skills? Was it your quick wit?

No, it was the bloody gouge between your legs. The only thing of worth a woman has.

>> No.13399951

>>13399905
>But is that you?
Yes, now fuck off you child.

>> No.13399963

>>13399905
>Work is the only secret to life. Be your own master. It's as simple as that. It's a choice. Life or death? All or nothing? Yes or No?
I would prefer not to.

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>>13398386
As a suicidal person, suicide is hilarious

>>13398359
If it gets bad enough, yeah. If a person thinks there's no way out, then suicide starts looking pretty easy. If you're in a routine that makes you miserable, It's real simple to start to think every day is going to be as awful as the last, and once that starts, it's a steep slope, especially if you feel alone.

>> No.13399989

1. FOMO is apparently a personality trait of mine. I’m just too curious about how certain things in the world will turn out.

2. My family loves me too much, not sure why but they do. I couldn’t deal with giving them so much sadness

>> No.13399994

>>13398393
I hope you're just being a bitch to butterfly, because I can guarantee my life was harder than yours.

>> No.13400007

>>13399994
If you're a woman, your life was not harder than a mans.

>> No.13400025

>>13399941
Sounds like someone had a nasty breakup. Or maybe a few.

>> No.13400028

>>13399930
It’s just a thing I pulled out of an old Zalgo thread. I am she.

>>13399941
Your scenario sounds absolutely repugnant. You have a nine year olds understanding of the world. Its a nearly incredulous worldview you hold. Stop exposing it to people. Troll or nine year old head, just stop

>> No.13400029

>>13400007
only people who haven't had a hard life say this

>> No.13400037

>>13400029
No one cares, whore. Shut the fuck up.

>> No.13400043

because i will experience death nonetheless, killing yourself is utterly retarded and for hedonistic cripples.

>> No.13400044

>>13400028
>Your scenario sounds absolutely repugnant
And yet it's always an option women have that men don't. Women live life on easy mode, whether they choose to ignore it or not.

>> No.13400046

>>13399851
>Working class
>Spends all day on 4chin

>> No.13400110

>>13400028
>It’s just a thing I pulled out of an old Zalgo thread. I am she.
There was a different tripcode before. « Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » died of an oxycontin overdose and you have been puppeteering her corpse all this while. It disturbs me, not out of respect for the memory of « Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » but for the image of what a duty bound freak you must be to keep up the charade for so long.

>> No.13400147

>>13400037
aw, com'on. don't be like that. tell us all the horrible things that happen to men that can't happen to women.

>> No.13400188

>>13400147
>tell us all the horrible things that happen to men that can't happen to women.

>Dying in a war as a soldier
>Prison rape
>Getting passed over for a job because of "positive discrimination" or the boss is a pervert and wants a new member for his harem in his 90% female office
>Risking all the rejection and wasted time, effort and money to find a wife
>Paying most/all the money for an expensive wedding and honeymoon
>Eternal loneliness and isolation
>Your gf cutting up all your clothes and destroying your belongings because you don't pay enough attention to her
>Her getting off with not even a slap on the wrist because she's a woman
>If domestic violence is reported, the man is always arrested if both people were violent
>If a woman acts like a massive cunt, she gets called names, if a man does it he gets beaten unconcious
Need more you stupid cunt?

>> No.13400228

>>13400147
Shit the fuck up you spoiled brat. If I could I'd beat you into a pulp right now for your insolence. Stupid dumb fag whore.

>> No.13400267

>>13400188
>>Dying in a war as a soldier
wrong happens to women all the time
>>Prison rape
>>(women can't get raped)
now you're just fucking around.
>>Getting passed over for a job because of "positive discrimination" or the boss is a pervert and wants a new member for his harem in his 90% female office
Getting passed over for a job because the boss is sexist
>>Risking all the rejection and wasted time, effort and money to find a wife
being murdered by a guy she doesn't want to fuck because he spent thirty bucks on drinks
>>Paying most/all the money for an expensive wedding and honeymoon
being murdered because her husband doesn't want to waste money on a divorce
>>Eternal loneliness and isolation
wrong happens to women all the time
>>Your gf cutting up all your clothes and destroying your belongings because you don't pay enough attention to her
being murdered because her boyfriend thinks she doesn't pay enough attention to him
>>Her getting off with not even a slap on the wrist because she's a woman
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
>>If domestic violence is reported, the man is always arrested if both people were violent
>>(man gets arrested if he was violent)
1/3 point
>>If a woman acts like a massive cunt, she gets called names, if a man does it he gets beaten unconcious
stop acting like a massive cunt then

I love it when fuckers like you think you just QED this argument, and then you list such trivial shit. Men really are pussies.