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I loved this so much. Is Brothers Karamazov the logical next step?

>> No.13367825

>>13367811
No, the Idiot is the next step Brothers K is endgame Dostoevsky

>> No.13367827

The Brothers Karamazov is the supreme summit of all literature, so yes.

>> No.13367838

>>13367827
Which translation is the best? I read Garnett for C&P which seemed a bit clunky at times but it's hard to tell if that's cause of Dosto or the translation

>> No.13367879

Only one of his big four I've read is The Possessed / Demons (I'm in the middle of C&P right now), but I would definitely recommend that one too, I think it often gets left behind C&P, BK, and The Idiot

>> No.13368314

In terms of Publish date after c&p is the idiot, then the possessed, then brothers. And underground man somewhere in-between

>> No.13368451

>>13368314
This. Read the TBK last.

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>>13367827

>> No.13368972

>>13367827
The ending chapter in it so great that Dostoevsky did the impossible, did what he most admired in the world, and wrote something nearly Biblical and yet distinctly secular in its message, God for once hardly even came into it. It did help that Alyosha had exactly 12 disciples, very cheeky there

>> No.13368982

>>13367838
Garnett for TBK was so fucking slow and dry to read. I could stand maybe 20-30 pages at a time before needing a break. Only reason it's still read is because it's public domain. Disregard

>> No.13369004

>>13367838
I liked McDuff but have nothing to compare it with so take that with a grain of salt. I think most people like McDuff on here though.

>> No.13369018

>>13367825
Have to agree with this.

>> No.13369022

>>13368982
Yeah that's why I got it for C&P, because it was cheapest. I'll spend a little more on TBK.

>>13369004
Do other posters agree with this? I also hear about P&V but I also hear bad things about that one

>> No.13369129

>>13367811
curious about this as well. I'm reading White Nights currently, and it is amazing. So good, in fact, that I'm pushing everything back in my queue to start The Idiot and the BK.

>> No.13369521

bump for translation advice

>> No.13369564

>>13369022
>Do other posters agree with this?
Generally yes people appear to be satisfied with McDuff, I've also heard good things about Ignat Avsey's translation, but McDuff would probably be the safer bet.

>I also hear about P&V but I also hear bad things about that one
It's a subpar translation to put it nicely.

>> No.13369640

>>13369564
Thanks. I'll probably go with McDuff

>> No.13369645

Yes, C&P, then TBK, then The Idiot Become one of the truly based who realize The Idiot is the best Dosto book

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>tfw you think you're like Ivan
>tfw you want to be like Dimitri
>twf you know you should be like Alyosha
>twf you never want to be like Fyodor Pavlovich
>twf you're like Smerdyakov

>> No.13369662

>>13369656
Fyodor was Chad as fuck. Didn't give a shit about his kids and just wanted to get fat and rich and bang women. He lived a based life

>> No.13369674

>>13367811
Fuck yes The Brothers Karamazov is still my favorite book after all these years. I read it about once a year or if I'm feeling down.
Read the Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky translation. Flows much better than the Garnett translation. I loved both but the former is an easier read and I heard the latter turned off some people.
I'm love this book so much I'm thinking about learning Russian just to read it again.

>> No.13369684

>>13369674
It seems that some people love P&V and some people hate it. I wonder why

>> No.13369720

>>13369684
It's the Garnett translation that I've always heard people bashing.
To be fair I read the Garnett translation first and had trouble with all the Russian nicknames. Once I had a handle on them and realized there were about half the characters I thought there were the book became much easier to follow.

>> No.13370035

Currently reading The brothers karamazov which is my first dostoyevsky book
Am i gonna miss on stuff?

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>>13370035
>Brothers Karamazov
>First Dosto book

Good luck brother

>> No.13372117

Is Alan Myers fine for The Idiot?

>> No.13372123

only after you read the idiot and notes from underground

>> No.13372161

>>13367827
I'm reading it right now, just finished the chapter where Mitya gets fucked up with Grushenka and the police accuses him of murdering Fiodor, Alyosha and Snegiryov are my favorites so far (although Snegiryov only appeared for one chapter, he reminded me of Marmeladov).

>> No.13372193

>>13372161
Keep reading. Book X (which comes right after the part you're at right now) is one of my favorite parts.

>> No.13372242

>>13372161
You're getting to the best parts of the novel

>> No.13372244

>>13370035
That's what I did! I loved it don't let these guys scare you off.