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/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General Anonymous Mon Jun 24 18:04:58 2019 No.13355879 [Reply] [Original]

FIRST ENCOUNTER EDITION
>What are you're favourite books about first encounters?
>Any rare, unheard of gems?
>Any fantasy books featuring first encounters?

Monthly Reading for June: Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny

Monthly Reading books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

Fantasy:
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Flowchart:
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Science Fiction:
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General:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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Previously:
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>>13309041
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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 18:06:26 2019 No.13355885 Does anybody in /sffg/ like The Chronicles of Prydain?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 18:07:55 2019 No.13355896 File: 267 KB, 500x850, monthly reading.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Voting in next post.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 18:08:26 2019 No.13355900 Who was best Kingkiller girl and why was it Vashet

Anonymous Mon Jun 24 18:08:56 2019 No.13355901
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It's time to vote on what we're going to read in July! Reading of Lord of Light proceed as usual and discussion with start during the weekend. The nominees for July are:

Sign of the Labrys,
by Margaret St. Clair. ~150 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/992344.Sign_of_the_Labrys

Shades of Grey,
by Jasper Fforde. ~400 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2113260.Shades_of_Grey

Heroes Die,
by Matthew Woodring Stover. ~550 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/311864.Heroes_Die

In Other Worlds,
by A.A. Attanasio. ~200 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/552275.In_Other_Worlds

Bayne's Climb,
by Ty Johnston. ~125 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9717483-bayne-s-climb

The Library at Mount Char,
by Scott Hawkins. ~400 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26892110-the-library-at-mount-char

Shogun and Dhalgren were disqualified because they're simply to long, 1200 and 800 pages respectively.

Poll: https://www.strawpoll.me/18221313

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 18:12:16 2019 No.13355919 >>13355901 BAYNE?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 18:15:28 2019 No.13355932 >>13355919 >~125 pages Not a big book

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 18:17:44 2019 No.13355942 >>13355932 Not for you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 18:19:02 2019 No.13355950 I'm partway through Curse of Chalion. I like fat king and his big cat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 18:27:08 2019 No.13355989 >>13355950 Godspeed anon, you've got some fun ahead.

Anonymous Mon Jun 24 18:40:37 2019 No.13356057
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>reading book
>character is introduced
>by riding the dick of some dead dude
>talks about her sex cravings (she's a demigod and they all have themes)
>left hundreds of millions of sex toys lying around over the eons from penis-shaped smoothed rocks to hardened loaves of bread
wew

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 19:42:18 2019 No.13356359 File: 167 KB, 600x692, 098FAFEC-8EEB-43F6-B394-4774C002DD45.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13356057

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 19:45:09 2019 No.13356375 After devouring New Sun, Long Sun and Short Sun by Wolfe (great, all of it). I order Vance's Dying Earth, apparently it was a big inspiration.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 19:48:21 2019 No.13356386 >>13356375 And Clark Ashton Smith was an influence for both Vance AND Wolfe. So read his shit too. Specifically the Zothique stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 20:25:38 2019 No.13356533 Recommend me a blog or something with good sff reviews.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 20:56:32 2019 No.13356685 Just finished the unholy consult. Maybe I'm just a fucking retard that did not get it but it's just fucking nothing??

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 20:59:15 2019 No.13356702 >>13356057 Name of book? I hope it isn't chink. You've been on a chink binge recently, cosmerefag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 21:02:16 2019 No.13356718 File: 129 KB, 3082x651, 9C8188AC-6BB9-4911-B08C-25E4ADA4B695.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13356685 They lose, the world is closed to souls. The heron spear is lost. Consult did literally nothing wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 21:10:34 2019 No.13356752 Are people sick of pirate stories where all the myths are real and voodoo is magic and stuff like that? Should I just stick with Horatio Hornblower level of 'almost history?'

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 21:13:28 2019 No.13356768 >>13356752 Different markets for that, there's tons of pure historical fiction fans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 21:17:01 2019 No.13356787 >>13356685 >but it's just fucking nothing?? Welcome to grimderp! Edginess and nihilism FOR EVERYONE!

Anonymous Mon Jun 24 21:39:23 2019 No.13356891
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>>13356702
A Place Called Skull, Book 2 of a (short) trilogy. I am liking it so far. I'll give it a review once I'm done with book 3.
I haven't read any chinkshit in maybe 2 weeks-ish? I finished Gebados and moved on to Fiend in Coiling Dragon. I read some litRPG that was so mediocre I won't bother naming it, and I finally finished Dungeon Born the other day, along with Where The Gods Gather (book 1 of that aforementioned trilogy).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 21:52:17 2019 No.13356952 >>13356891 >A Place Called Skull >doesn't even have an audiobook

Anonymous Mon Jun 24 22:20:43 2019 No.13357078

Is Song of Ice and Fire worth reading? I'm currently reading King Lear for a class, just finished Hamlet and read Midsummer before that. Twelfth Night and The Tempest next.

Is ASOIAF like watching TV? I haven't read a non serious book since middle school and I'm scared that it'll take up too many brain cells or distract from my actual reading

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 22:22:21 2019 No.13357089 >>13357078 The books are actually pretty good, and the show deviates wildly. The problem is that the fucking fat retard who writes them will never finish them so you cant figure out how the story ends

Anonymous Mon Jun 24 22:28:09 2019 No.13357119

>>13357078
First Book is exactly like the First Season, but thats when it’s splits. To be more precise, I’d say the split really starts when Arya’s on the Kingsroad, in Clash of Kings, with the Nights Watch recruits and they find the one-armed woman and her baby.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 22:34:44 2019 No.13357152 >>13356952 It's a book, READ it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 22:50:54 2019 No.13357219 >>13357078 Those books make you sound underage b&

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 22:52:00 2019 No.13357224 >>13357078 I'm halfway through the third book and I'm enjoying it heaps. I hear that it drops in quality from the fourth book though.

Anonymous Mon Jun 24 22:57:49 2019 No.13357254

>>13357224
After book 3 it suffers from the common fantasy author problem of getting obsessed with their own creation and they write five times the number of words to cover half the amount of plot. There's like 1000 pages of aimless wandering and camping.

Anonymous Mon Jun 24 23:02:15 2019 No.13357275

>>13357254
I heard he was going to do a time skip in between two of the books and then changed his mind. He absolutely made the wrong decision.

Honestly, he could easily wrap it up in one more book, especially if he didn't introduce that new faction at the end of the last one. And I still don't give a single fuck about Dorne or anyone from there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 23:05:23 2019 No.13357286 File: 296 KB, 962x1024, Conan-Slomatics-Sentinel-flat_-962x1024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Give me some 'barbarians riding giant snails' fantasy kino.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 23:41:28 2019 No.13357452 >>13355885 Yeah it's good, I recommend it everyone someone asks for juvenile/YA fiction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 23:42:32 2019 No.13357456 >>13357078 >Is Song of Ice and Fire worth reading? No. >Is ASOIAF like watching TV? No really

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 24 23:53:51 2019 No.13357498 >>13357286 barsoom GOR conan but the comics

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 01:40:28 2019 No.13357892 File: 206 KB, 571x429, Ohhhhhhhh Conaaaaaaaan!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when he says he reads Swords & Sorcery

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 01:49:45 2019 No.13357917 What are you guys reading? I just picked up the barrow. It as degenerate as the shill said it would be. Can't wait for that butch to be raped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 02:02:18 2019 No.13357947 >>13357917 Degenerate fiction is for degenerates.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 02:03:36 2019 No.13357950 >>13357917 Song of Kali.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 02:43:13 2019 No.13358038 >>13357917 The Bull and the Spear

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 04:23:24 2019 No.13358256 >>13357917 Just finished The Blade Itself. Decent set up and the characters aren't terrible. The writing could be a bit better, but I like how the writing style shifts a bit from view point to viewpoint.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 04:31:59 2019 No.13358273 >>13355901 Why not read something good for once?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 04:34:21 2019 No.13358274 >>13358273 Feel free to nominate something good for next month.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 05:04:55 2019 No.13358338 >>13358273 Why not post something good for once?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 05:05:19 2019 No.13358339 >>13358038 See >>13357947

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 05:42:44 2019 No.13358425 File: 12 KB, 233x222, >malazan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13357892 >when he says he likes epic grimderp

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 05:44:07 2019 No.13358430 OK Cazaril can go John Wick any time now, I'm ready

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 05:44:28 2019 No.13358432 >>13358425 Don't steal my meme, asshole.

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 06:46:28 2019 No.13358569
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>Keats
It doesn't fucking stop! It's no longer just something referenced or mentioned. He's literally a fucking character in the actual book, jesus h christ. If I have to read about Lamia lusting for him one more paragraph I'm going to end it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 07:07:15 2019 No.13358634 >>13358569 Fuck, I've played myself by talking too early. They had, dear God, sex.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 07:17:43 2019 No.13358665 File: 12 KB, 599x605, i wanna fuck that X.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13358569 >Lamia lusting for him Tell me more. What book are you talking about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 07:37:31 2019 No.13358743 >>13358665 The greatest masturbatory work of fictional literature dedicated to John Keats The Hyperion cantos. Ok, don't get me wrong, it's very snappy, intelligent and well written to be honest, but certain portions of it are a slog of slogs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 07:38:25 2019 No.13358748 HOW DO YOU SAVE BOOKS FROM KINDLE CLOUD READER TO YOUR HARD DRIVE AS MOBI OR EPUB FILES AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 07:51:33 2019 No.13358788 >>13358569 Wait until you find out that the strong atomic force is actually the universal love for Keats that all living beings feel, the void of good taste that binds

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 08:10:29 2019 No.13358828 File: 207 KB, 692x960, 1445950488313.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13358788 >ywn feel anything as strongly as Dan Simmons is gay for Keats

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 08:10:36 2019 No.13358829 >>13358748 >What is google? Kindle fags in a nutshell

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 08:16:18 2019 No.13358847 >>13358829 I'm not a kindlefag, you cocksucker.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 08:53:09 2019 No.13358993 >>13358273 >has a chance to nominate his book >doesn't >cries in next thread about not reading good books kys

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 08:58:15 2019 No.13359020 >>13358748 >wants to pirate >thinks they would just give you it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:03:14 2019 No.13359054 someone recomend me The First Law by Joe Abercrombie and Malazan_Book_of_the_Fallen by Steven Erikson are those good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:04:14 2019 No.13359062 >>13359054 No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:11:00 2019 No.13359091 >>13357286 i thought the purpose of riding something was to go faster than on foot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:11:43 2019 No.13359099 >>13359054 >Malazan_Book_of_the_Fallen Only if you have mild autism, otherwise you will become one of the people who got filtered by the first the book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:12:46 2019 No.13359103 >>13359099 so many plotlines or characters to follow?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:15:57 2019 No.13359121 >>13359091 Riding a giant snail over mountain tops WOULD be faster.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:16:52 2019 No.13359125 >>13359062 but Abercrombie is in OP pic I think that good

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:19:36 2019 No.13359139 >>13359103 Yes, combined with an introduction that is not very gentle.

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:19:56 2019 No.13359142

>>13359054
The Fist Law is decent from the literary craftsmanship viewpoint, that is the author has sufficient grasp of English to express his ideas and the plot is always going somewhere, but the author's opinions on life, human condition and everything are retarded. Futhermore, the characters feel as if a bunch of hipsters who do not control their soi intake generated them for an RPG campaign where their characters are supposed to be brutal quasi-medieval assholes.

Malazan is just fucking bad. In this case the books being a novelization of an RPG campaign is a literal truth. And they are written as poorly as you can expect from an uncontrollably bloated modern fantasy "saga".

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:23:52 2019 No.13359165

>>13359142
>the author's opinions on life, human condition and everything are retarded. Futhermore, the characters feel as if a bunch of hipsters who do not control their soi intake generated them for an RPG campaign

thanks, that is exactly what I dont want to read. can you recommend me an alternative? something that gets me hooked and is also as much not-reddit as possible

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:26:19 2019 No.13359183 File: 111 KB, 743x288, throne-of-glass-series-banner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How come women started dominating fantasy?

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:31:05 2019 No.13359210

>>13359165
>something that gets me hooked and is also as much not-reddit as possible

Be more specific please. Have you read all the usual fantasy classics (Tolkien, Howard, Moorcock, Anderson, Vance, Leiber)? Do you mean you want manly characters or lack of subversion by "non-Reddit"?

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 09:38:04 2019 No.13359239

>>13359210
I only read Tolkien out of those, and I cant really put non-reddit into words. I guess what you wrote, author's opinions on life and human condition, in the least soi way would come close. I certainly dont want any contemporary liberal viewpoints mixed into the characters

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 10:34:31 2019 No.13359584 >>13359183 They dominate television too. I guess all men do now is play games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 10:40:24 2019 No.13359617 >>13359210 He wants to read fantasy, but he doesn't want his bubble challenged by uncomfortable modern ideas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 10:40:43 2019 No.13359619 >>13357917 same , halfway through it and liking it so far

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 10:48:27 2019 No.13359665 >>13359239 The Ironhand's Daughter by Gemmell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 10:52:48 2019 No.13359690 File: 274 KB, 421x649, 56439675836753636.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13359584 Games will fall in due time as well, lad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 10:56:10 2019 No.13359707 >>13359617 Nothing wrong with this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 10:59:37 2019 No.13359726 >>13357219 u wot can never go wrong with Shakespeare

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 11:02:04 2019 No.13359735 >>13359617 Nothing wrong with wanting a change of pace from the bog-standard progressive liberalism of almost all modern authors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 11:21:27 2019 No.13359816 >>13359142 you can read the first 3-5 chapters of first law and get a good idea what to expect from all of his books. they're not that long either

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 11:27:05 2019 No.13359836 >>13359617 >reading fantasy to escape to a world in which you hate everything Might as well go on Twitter

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 11:38:06 2019 No.13359881 >>13358665 She's not an actual Lamia it's just her name. Although she is a musclegirl so maybe you do kind of get the crushing sinews there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 11:59:39 2019 No.13359996 >>13359735 You don't even read modern fantasy in the first place .

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 12:01:20 2019 No.13360002

>>13359239
Try Robert Howard (Conan stories) and Poul Anderson (The Broken Sword, Three Hearts and Three Lions) for relatively straightforward fantasy adventures or Jack Vance (Dying Earth) for a more roguish take. David Gemell books, such as the Outlander series also are pretty fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 12:03:04 2019 No.13360012 >>13359619 Does that butch every get discovered and raped?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 12:04:24 2019 No.13360019 >>13359726 >can never go wrong with Shakespeare wrong.

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 12:10:52 2019 No.13360055

>>13357078
Yes, if you can stand the books that likely will never get finished.

Not much brain cells is needed to follow the plot. There is a shit-ton of mysteries and theories (which likely won't ever be answered) based on various hints and different interpretations, but the narrative's main threads aren't hard to follow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 12:44:30 2019 No.13360279 >>13357078 The books are very good, but spare yourself the misery and don't get yourself attached to a series the author is unlikely to finish.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 12:47:51 2019 No.13360297 >>13359142 T.reddit pleb who got btfo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 13:07:47 2019 No.13360384 File: 265 KB, 1080x1920, BY AZURA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any fantasy with gods that play a big role? Don't say Malazan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 13:25:22 2019 No.13360500 >>13360384 Malazan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 13:25:58 2019 No.13360505 >>13360384 Book of the Long Sun

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 13:29:36 2019 No.13360527 >>13360384 Curse of Chalion

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 13:31:54 2019 No.13360543 >>13359183 Maybe it's just me but most of the fantasy fans i knew were women,specifically those lonely 30 something type of women,most dudes i know read scifi,also know as the thinking man's genre.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 13:33:02 2019 No.13360548 >>13360384 Malazan

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 13:35:19 2019 No.13360555 >>13360384 Paternus by dyrk ashton tries to integrate lots of different mythos and is about good vs bad gods and monsters fighting in the modern world. Can be a little cringe but I enjoyed it. Plenty of incest and bloody battles

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 13:39:45 2019 No.13360576 >>13360543 Besides your mother, do you even know women?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 13:46:27 2019 No.13360612 >>13360555 >incest based trips

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 13:50:26 2019 No.13360630 >>13359665 >>13360002 Thanks, will give them a look >>13359617 >I have >my bubble challenged everytime I look into a newspaper, switch on the tv or visit a website outside of this one. I really dont need it in my books aswell

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:00:44 2019 No.13360663 >>13360384 Everworld

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:01:38 2019 No.13360666 >>13358256 It really disapoints in book 2 and 3 and after the Glokta Arc/ in that southern brown trade city its not worth reading.

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:09:08 2019 No.13360703

>>13359996

I do, unlike you I don't have an internal political commissar commanding me to avoid badthink.

It's just that overwhelming majority of it is bad from the purely literary standpoint, before even considering the predictable results of mixing preachy current year message into a genre which is heavily based on looking into the past. But if you wish, go ahead, tell me how, say, Anthony Ryan (just for an example of the last modern fantasy author I dropped after a few chapters) is not a fucking hack.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:13:18 2019 No.13360724 >>13360384 Cradle

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:16:37 2019 No.13360734 >>13360724 I like cradle as much as most people here but that's a stretch

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:17:54 2019 No.13360742 >>13360384 Lord of Light Gods of Pegana,Time and the Gods and The Sword of Welleran by Lord Dunsany Dragonlance Chronicles and Legends The Avatar Trilogy Empire of the East by Fred Saberhagen The Godwars by Angus Wells

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:22:24 2019 No.13360761 File: 743 KB, 1298x907, janniess.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13358748 I hope you get a virus, FBI glow NIGGER

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:24:06 2019 No.13360770 >>13359183 >We strongly give preference to new female, POC, LBGTQZ+, or other minority authors

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:26:43 2019 No.13360780 File: 70 KB, 800x710, 1543000353255.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13360630 Fuck niggers, jews, trannies and especially jannies. >Imagine having a fucking JANNIE appear in your book. I wouldnt buy it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:41:09 2019 No.13360840 File: 82 KB, 1280x720, .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Vampires or werewolves?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:45:08 2019 No.13360864 >>13360840 They’re both unreadable now that the woman targeted written porn industry have massacred them. Especially werewolves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:45:15 2019 No.13360865 >>13360840 kate beckinsale on my face

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:48:00 2019 No.13360876 >>13360703 What was wrong with Blood Song?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 14:54:46 2019 No.13360901 >>13360840 Female vampires>Male vampires Male werewolves>female werewolves >>13360555 >Plenty of incest Nice

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 15:08:21 2019 No.13360976

>>13360876
When the prologue featured some fedora tipping and ham-handed delivery of stock modern messages like "history is written by winners" and "social classes are for pussies (and non-pussies can totally disregard them without consequences)" I became cautious. When the author decided that the best way to make us empathize with his protag is introducing modern drill except worse into a pseudo-medieval setting I loled. When after a couple more chapters I felt myself rather bored, I decided to switch audiobooks instead of checking what bullshit awaits me next.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 15:17:05 2019 No.13361017 >>13356752 Have you read "Wyvern" by AA Attanasio? Seriously great book if you are OK with historical fiction. Lots of piratry too.

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 15:23:51 2019 No.13361053

>>13360384
>gods that play a big role
The Shadowmarch cycle by Tad Williams. But do yourself a favour and keep track of all the different fucking names of all the different fucking gods in all teh fucking different languages, with a spreadsheet preferably, or you will be fucked

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 15:26:12 2019 No.13361059 File: 43 KB, 1080x1002, D8C2513F-3624-4285-A372-4DCA318A3F4E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have never read a fantasy book in my entire life. What book should I read first?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 15:27:57 2019 No.13361063 >>13361059 Hart's Hope

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 15:32:50 2019 No.13361093 >>13361059 If you read other books that are more challenging and "deep" then probably one the classics. If you don't read or read very light stuff then probably a modern more YA oriented book

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 15:42:26 2019 No.13361148 >>13361093 Care to give me 1-2 examples of both categories, friend?

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 16:40:36 2019 No.13361505

>>13360864
I'd agree but I'm a dirty hypocrite and honestly would enjoy dude-targeted written porn about cool manly monster-hunting human dude fugging Kate Beckinsal- uh I mean female vampires. Maybe female werewolves too actually as long as it's not when they're turned bc fuck that furry shit. Too bad that kind of genre is dominated by weebshit and femdom garbage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 17:05:31 2019 No.13361628 >>13361148 Classic: Lord of the Rings or Jack Vance's Lyonesse Modern: Megan Whalen Turner's Thief or Mistborn series I'm sure others will disagree

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 17:20:33 2019 No.13361700
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>>13361628
Not sure if to agree or disagree.

Mistborn is a great fucking trilogy. Never read anything beyond because it felt like a good ending and I'm the type of reader who doesn't seen explanation / a continuation for everything. I just take it at face value.

Also that fact when no Vin girl-friend

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 17:42:36 2019 No.13361832 Why is garden of the moon so boring

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 17:52:22 2019 No.13361886 >>13361832 from the title I guess it's about a garden on the moon which sounds boring as fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 17:52:53 2019 No.13361888 >>13361700 >not reading Era 2 for BrandySandy's best character

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 17:54:10 2019 No.13361894 Excellent time to deplete resources accumulated for 10 million years just to save a month of cultivation xd

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 17:55:54 2019 No.13361903 >>13361886 It's the title of the first Malazan book

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 18:03:32 2019 No.13361943 >>13361903 Even worse

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 18:26:45 2019 No.13362025 >>13360901 >Female vampires>Male vampires >Male werewolves>female werewolves But what about vampires vs werewolves?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 18:30:24 2019 No.13362047 >>13360864 >Especially werewolves. Yes. The amount of shitty shifter romance out there makes venturing into this genre really a waste of time. Teaching women how to read was a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 18:57:12 2019 No.13362172 >>13360666 That’s kind of disappointing to hear, but I’ll probably keep them in my backlog for when I’ve got nothing better to read then.

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 19:09:58 2019 No.13362232

>>13362172
You're not going to find a single book that doesn't have at least one passionate detractor in SFFG. I'm no First Law fan, would consider it inoffensive but nothing special, but if you ignore any series that gets vague criticism here you're gonna end up reading nothing. This place is only good for recs and derecs if you manage to get someone to be specific about what they liked/disliked about a book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 19:18:47 2019 No.13362265 >>13358569 Fuck me, just finished Hyperion tonight. Boy what a trip. Is it worth going further? The whole concept is intriguing but I will not suffer any more Keats masturbation.

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 19:22:52 2019 No.13362286

I decided to try kindle unlimited when I found out they have audio books. But the selection is pretty meh. I'm currently listening to Paper Magician and it's alright. They've got a bunch of Philip K Dick stuff I need to listen to, but anyone have any recs?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 19:23:21 2019 No.13362291 People actually like Brandon Sanderson. Absolute shite.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 19:45:37 2019 No.13362401 The Daniel Schinhofen Alpha World fag must be happen that a new book is out.

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 20:05:44 2019 No.13362483

>>13362265
No, please do not go any farther. In the first one the shrek is enigmatic and open, suggestive, a call to suffering, a redeemer, a destroyer, a deep psychic force. In the later one he's an overexplained plot point. Hyperion is a great novel and the sequels are bad fan fiction. Steer clear.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 20:07:05 2019 No.13362489 >>13361888 Era 2 is aged-down cringy YA trash to my eye. Who do you think is his best character?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 20:16:33 2019 No.13362524 >>13362265 NANOMACHINES, SON

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 20:24:43 2019 No.13362549 >tfw I want to turn writing into a daily habit, but every time I think about writing the bottom goes out of my stomach

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 20:26:39 2019 No.13362556 >>13362549 Write as a shitpost reply, then at the last second cut it out and paste it into your main document. Then save and close and pretend it didn't happen until you repeat the next day

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 20:33:38 2019 No.13362579 >>13362291 I don't think his bank balance cares what you think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 20:44:50 2019 No.13362626 Shill me on this. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/681708.One_Foot_in_the_Grave

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 20:52:12 2019 No.13362649 >>13362626 >Christopher Csejthe doesn't believe in vampires >Christopher Csejthe >Csejthe Dropped

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 20:58:35 2019 No.13362679 >>13362286 >Time Out of Joint >The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch >Martian Time-Slip ^holy trinity of wacky PKD out of what I have read >Lies, Inc. >A Maze of Death >The Penultimate Truth >VALIS >Roog

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 20:59:17 2019 No.13362683 >>13356718 And dog penises

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 21:05:05 2019 No.13362705

>>13362286
My personal favorite PKD novel is A Scanner Darkly, since it's the only one I've read that actually has decent characters on top of his usual strengths. You shouldn't overlook his short stories either; I think they're on the whole better than his novels and there's a convenient audiobook compendium for more or less all of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 21:20:26 2019 No.13362793 >>13362549 Hi George.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 21:36:57 2019 No.13362858 Where can I read the hottest Cradle theories?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 21:50:28 2019 No.13362920 >>13362579 Cool, neither does Stephanie Meyer's or EL James'. We going to act like that's an argument against the fans of their books being mouthbreathing brainlets with garbage taste?

Anonymous Tue Jun 25 21:59:55 2019 No.13362963

>>13362858
discord, but you'll probably have to lurk for a while and do a lot of catching up with all the established theories. Will comes to hang out once in while too.
If you want something more casual, try rebbit. I believe the sub is called iteration110cradle. You can find the discord link there as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 22:14:57 2019 No.13363039 >>13362683 You can’t prove they are dog penises

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 22:27:10 2019 No.13363106 >>13355900 It wasnt. Fela was.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 25 23:21:50 2019 No.13363329 >>13362793 I meant I get a sense of dread, not that I start eating

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 00:11:59 2019 No.13363503 Currently reading some self-published Catholic space opera kino. That is all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 00:13:24 2019 No.13363507 >>13363503 40k ripoff?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 00:14:16 2019 No.13363510 Would you read about non-human races, or maybe something like The Legend Of The Guardians or you need a self insert?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 00:14:50 2019 No.13363513 >>13363507 No. This is more like classic pulp space opera.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 00:30:07 2019 No.13363545 /sffg/, I'm reading The Master and Margarita. Does magical realism count as fantasy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 00:30:50 2019 No.13363548 >>13363510 I'd kill for more xenofiction that isn't literal children's books like Warriors.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 00:36:59 2019 No.13363577 >>13363510 didn't realize I wanted this until reading ur post desu

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 01:26:18 2019 No.13363745 >>13362626 WET HAIRY WOLFGIRL PUSSY

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 01:31:33 2019 No.13363758 >s*x havers are allowed in this thread Why don't you all go have sex or something and leave literature to the actual sentient people

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 01:42:56 2019 No.13363795 File: 3 KB, 75x77, benuto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13363758

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 02:44:49 2019 No.13363991 >>13359121 ya but then you should just get a giant goat

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 02:54:56 2019 No.13364030 >>13363991 Nowhere near as stable as a giant snail. Plus you can chill and take a nap while riding a giant snail.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 03:57:17 2019 No.13364293 >>13362265 Anon, Keats is the main character of the next book.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 04:59:39 2019 No.13364466 Was Howard the only good S&S pulp author? I've read all of his Kull and Conan stories and I want more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 05:05:20 2019 No.13364478 >>13360 >>13360012 >>13360012 Unfortunately , not yet

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 05:18:20 2019 No.13364503

>>13364466
He wasn't the only good one, but he was the best. Check out Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser by Fritz Leiber. Specifically the Swords Against Death collection. He's the man who coined the term 'Sword & Sorcery.' And I guess maybe Elric by Michael Moorcock even though I'm personally not a fan. Also if you want some modern Sword & Sorcery I'd suggest a book I just read called The Chronicles of Caylen-Tor by Byron Roberts. It is unapologetically old-school with the purplest of prose without a hint of irony. I had a fucking blast reading it. Reads like it was written during the S&S boom of the 70s.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 05:36:29 2019 No.13364536 >>13364293 Aight, fuck it. Hyperion was whatever in and of itself, I don't need everything explained and I couldn't stand any more of it anyway. I rate it 8/10 because it made me fucking finish it like no other book.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 05:59:49 2019 No.13364588

>>13364503
>Also if you want some modern Sword & Sorcery I'd suggest a book I just read called The Chronicles of Caylen-Tor by Byron Roberts.
Does this "subvert expectations"? One of the reasons I loved Conan was how refreshingly simple and formulaic the stories are compared to modern fantasy.
>It is unapologetically old-school with the purplest of prose without a hint of irony.
Fuck it, I'm sold.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 06:08:29 2019 No.13364606

>>13364588
>Does this "subvert expectations"?
No, son. It is the complete opposite. Even though it's "modern" in that he wrote it this year; it's 100% straight-forward Sword & Sorcery. And if you like it then you might wanna give The Snake-Man's Bane by Howie Bentley a shot even though he's not quite as good as Roberts and his writing can feel kinda amateurish and over-stuffed he also writes pure Sword & Sorcery. Incidentally both these writers are metal musicians.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 06:52:15 2019 No.13364695 >>13363503 What's it called

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 07:06:52 2019 No.13364726 >>13364695 Why?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 07:24:00 2019 No.13364762 >>13364726 I wrote two chapters of a Catholic space opera once

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 07:27:02 2019 No.13364770 >>13364762 Congratulations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 07:36:03 2019 No.13364789 >>13364762 Share it. I want to know how a space opera could be categorized as "catholic"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 07:52:03 2019 No.13364815 >>13364789 The good guys are Space Catholics and the bad guys are not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 08:01:10 2019 No.13364844 >>13364789 The church had medieval-tier influence over the governments of the galaxy, and the idea had developed that Jesus would return when the last system was colonized. So everyone was positioning themselves for this.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 08:08:46 2019 No.13364861

>>13360384
Elric, Corum, and other Multiverse series’ by Michael Moorcock. There’s two types of deity, but in the Elric series you only really see the “Princes of Chaos” as the universe is heavily tipped towards ‘chaos’ in the time of Elric. The daedric princes were most likely inspired by Moorcock.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 08:24:55 2019 No.13364897 >>13364844 Plot twist: Jesus did return.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 09:48:39 2019 No.13365146 >>13364897 I was considering that for an ending

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 10:05:34 2019 No.13365206 How do I start reading Elric? I'm genuinely lost

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 10:07:05 2019 No.13365209 >>13365206 chapter 1

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 10:08:58 2019 No.13365218 >>13355879 Radio Free Albemuth. One of my favourite PKD books, period.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 10:13:03 2019 No.13365230

>>13365206
General rule of thumb is to read stories in written/published order, but I read an article for Elric that suggested reading those stories in chronological order. Would you like to read the article as well and judge for yourself how you should read them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 10:26:54 2019 No.13365293 Hello friends, I read Left Hand of Darkness & The Dispossessed - are the other Hainish Cycle novels good? I like Guin’s writing style and characters, along with the kind of low-tech worlds. Dispossessed was a tad more my taste than LHoD.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 11:25:23 2019 No.13365555 >>13364861 >The daedric princes were most likely inspired by Moorcock. Weird way of spelling Kirkblade's acid trips

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 11:32:15 2019 No.13365593

>>13362963
Discord is for newfag children. I found the WoW dump and I'm reading that fuck me I'm not even 1/4th into the Cradle section and I have the others to read too--well I'm skipping the personal stuff unless I can find a list of xianxia he's read. I'm surprised there is a section for Asylum and Amalgam. I don't even remember the significance of Amalgam.
>now have WoW and WoB to follow

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 11:41:56 2019 No.13365637 >>13363545 M&M isn't magical realism but it is fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 12:10:31 2019 No.13365809 >>13365637 Going by the covers, an alcoholic cat with firearms is definitely fantasy.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 12:14:15 2019 No.13365831

>>13365593
>I found the WoW dump
Where do you think most of the WoW dump comes from you dummy? Will used to actively participate in the discord discussions. Still probably does but I haven't visited in a while.

After you go through the dump you can check this, it has a couple of short stories that WW used to send out to his email list.
https://us11.campaign-archive.com/home/?u=ba4bf39fb09712a9c982f3bc8&id=9a4055d765

As for xianxia he's read, he used to recommend a lot of stuff on Reddit, search his user page, /u/will_wight you'll find them. Last I remember he was fanboying A Will Eternal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 12:24:51 2019 No.13365885 >>13365809 Actually I remembered that "magical realism" is what snobs call fantasy books that they like, and M&M definitely falls into that category.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 13:26:30 2019 No.13366249 how do you get into the mood for writing? I want to start and to make a habit of it so im not dependent on mood swings to work but every time I seriously consider writing I feel queezy with anxiety and try to avoid it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 13:29:55 2019 No.13366276 >>13366249 Realize that you only have one life and if you won't write down your story and keep postponing the process for it, you will die without anybody reading it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 13:57:04 2019 No.13366449 >>13365885 M&M is fantastical/absurdist Soviet commentary.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 14:17:42 2019 No.13366541

"YA isn't really a genre or specific category of book it's just a marketing term"
t. female YA writers

Why do they keep saying this? Do they think nobody notices that YA books tend to share very specific features, themes, focus, etc.? Without looking at the cover or description at all, you can tell whether a book is YA or not within the space of a chapter 99.999999% of the time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 14:22:58 2019 No.13366566 >>13366449 And still a fantasy novel

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 14:25:06 2019 No.13366582 >>13364466 No there are others,try Sprague De Camp Karl Edward Wagner Dilvish the Damned by Roger Zelazny Jirel of Joiry by C.L Moore (Female Conan) Imaro by Charles Saunders (Black Conan) And please stay away from Lin Carter,his books are terrible

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 14:34:36 2019 No.13366633

>>13365206
Star with "Elric of Melnibone",then the Fortress of the Pearl,Sailors of the Seas of Fates,The Weird of the White Wolf,The Vanishing Tower,The Revenge of the Rose,The Bane of the Black Sword and then finally Stormbringer.
You can safely skip Elric at the End of Time because it's a parody with a lot of british humor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 14:40:43 2019 No.13366668 >>13366541 Probably the same reason they claim the protagonist always claims she's average looking while simultaneously having two 10/10 Chads lusting after her. Constantly lying to yourself is an intrinsic part of the female experience or something

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 14:46:55 2019 No.13366700 >>13355879 >>What are you're favourite books about first encounters? The Forge of God

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 14:54:00 2019 No.13366735 >>13355879 >Any fantasy books featuring first encounters? Pretty interested myself, usually first encounters are sci-fi focused.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 15:07:06 2019 No.13366807 >>13361059 Earthsea

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 15:09:18 2019 No.13366814 >>13366700 Great book and the sequel is too but very very different.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 15:18:17 2019 No.13366856

Started Poppy wars, iron dragon's daughter and some other stuff.
None sticked with me.

What books are fun and aren't very long or part of a million sequel epic scope series? I stress the word fun, I don't want pretentious crap, even though BotNS is my favorite book of all times ever.
But I just finished some pretentious crap and it was too draining.

Oh, and I want something googleable.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 15:21:14 2019 No.13366876

>>13364897
>>13365146
Honestly, it sounds like a pretty good ending.
>authoritarian regime crushes civil liberties to impose their religion
>kills atheists that try to stop the church and its objective of conquering the galaxy
>persecutes dissenters and heretics in the name of the lord
>finally the last planet is colonized
>jesus returns
>THE END

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 15:23:22 2019 No.13366887 >>13366856 >sticked with me >posts on a literature board there is no hope for you anon, go read Eragon. It's FUN.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 15:26:10 2019 No.13366901 >>13366887 Go end yourself, it'll make the world more fun And I've already read eragon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 15:28:23 2019 No.13366918 >>13366876 ok retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 15:49:24 2019 No.13366999 File: 78 KB, 828x626, 1559065614918.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHY IS THERE NOTHING AS GOOD AS ASOIAF??? I FEEL LIKE SUCH A NORMIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 16:16:14 2019 No.13367133 >>13366999 lol what have you been reading.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 16:27:10 2019 No.13367181 >>13366999 >He didn't read Wolfblade by Jeniffer Fallon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 16:28:13 2019 No.13367191 File: 54 KB, 336x499, the thief.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13366856

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 16:39:13 2019 No.13367238 First for Mature Women

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 16:41:38 2019 No.13367251 File: 2.32 MB, 3000x3000, 1561076796096.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First for Mature Women

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 16:49:59 2019 No.13367308 File: 58 KB, 460x612, 1561568290817.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13367181

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 16:52:28 2019 No.13367324

>>13367251
>Be space pilot, realize that due to time dilation everyone will be way older whenever you're back on planet.
>Groom new young girls w attractive moms every time you're planetside.
>Don't do anything with them obviously, you're no sicko. Fly off into space again.
>When you come back, harvest your crop of hot MILFs who are bored of their day to day life and will easily go for the fantasy of sleeping with the dashing space captain who was their girlhood crush.

Flawless plan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:01:20 2019 No.13367370 - dark tower 1-7 - dune 1-6 - book of the new sun 1-4 - third body problem 1-3 once i finish the solar cycle, then what?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:04:05 2019 No.13367386 >>13367370 Hyperion

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:15:59 2019 No.13367445 >>13367370 Read the Jerusalem Man by David Gemmell if you like the Dark Tower

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:24:17 2019 No.13367486 >>13365831 Is there a more comprehensive archive of his posts, or specifically, a list of links for his short stories? I'm not into powerlevelfaggotry but it's neat that he writes fights between characters of his different series.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:42:39 2019 No.13367594 >>13367386 >>13367445 thanks frens

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:56:01 2019 No.13367662 File: 35 KB, 300x504, 9780345347534_custom-a305782793cc96576a77c20070c09a6bc594e25b-s300-c85.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this is peak YA fantasy right here

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 18:15:51 2019 No.13367726 File: 42 KB, 288x475, the color of her panties.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13367662 Peaked at book 15

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 18:47:31 2019 No.13367870 File: 2.64 MB, 3500x3500, 1561329774056.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thread is dead. Discuss new books.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 18:53:07 2019 No.13367898 >>13367662 This. One of my favorite books. Didn't read the rest of them, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 18:56:42 2019 No.13367907 >>13367870 Threadbare was a disappointment. Great concept that devolved into mindless, dead action sequences. He should do it over when he gets his million shit words out of his system.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:01:13 2019 No.13367926

>>13367907
Said that a few threads ago. When he (the bear) became too smart it turned into a human litrpg adventure. The stats were too much too.
Even if he got human intelligence, he should have continued with the alien mentality. I understand an indescribable desire to be held, but the human shit shitted up the book.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:11:09 2019 No.13367983 >audiobook >female protag is narrated by male hate this shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:18:54 2019 No.13368016 >>13367983 Male narrated by female is much worse

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:19:50 2019 No.13368021 >>13367983 >audiobook >not happy it was made into an audiobook and you aren't left hanging for years

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:20:05 2019 No.13368023 >>13367870 Are all these actually self published or just "books you can find amazon?" Because I might have some recs but I'm too lazy to see if they are self published

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:24:15 2019 No.13368039 >>13368023 That isn't an /sffg/ chart. That is anon's personal chart.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:33:16 2019 No.13368089 File: 2.05 MB, 797x1336, SelfPublishedBookChart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13368039 This. Don't confuse it with the real /sffg/ chart which btw is superior in every way while also being free of any kind of degeneracy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:39:41 2019 No.13368115 Just finished Shadow's Son by Jon Sprunk, worst fucking book i ever read, cant comprehend how that dumpster fire got published.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:40:17 2019 No.13368118 >>13367370 3bp is garbage in fact I haven't seen anyone mention it for months the chink checks must have dried up

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:41:20 2019 No.13368128 >>13368089 This is the same exact shit. Don't act like you're above that other faggot, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:00:56 2019 No.13368216 >>13368115 Same.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:03:52 2019 No.13368240

dammit, now I'm doing that thing where I suddenly decide my book is shit over some autistic little detail no reader would ever care about. I need to take a break from thinking about this stuff.

>>13367191
shit, there are fantasy books with newbury medals? I thought they only cared about literary fiction aimed at children in which the dog/girl/old man dies

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:11:23 2019 No.13368268

>>13368240
I suppose it's kind of YA, but not the toxic kind. The writing is nimble, playful and engaging -- you aren't bludgeoned with a message. It's a very clever book, with a bit of a twist but one that doesn't make it less satisfying when you reread. The second in the series is also very good. The third pretty good, the fourth blackpilled and the fifth forgettable. But those first two are an absolute delight to read.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:12:07 2019 No.13368272 >>13368240 There are tons of /sffg/ Newbery honors. A Wrinkle in Time, The Black Cauldron, The Chronicles of Prydain, The Giver, etc. Any book of any genre can win the award as long as it's aimed at kids and something tragically dies in it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:20:38 2019 No.13368316 >>13367662 Was she raped or not? I think she was.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:22:54 2019 No.13368325 >>13368268 Also, they're all standalone books, so don't worry that you'll need to read the later ones to finish the story.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:24:31 2019 No.13368337 >>13368128 Although I do think >>13368089 is a better chart simply because I read too much shit, and I don't know most of the stuff there, while I know a lot of the stuff in >>13367870 and can attest it's mostly shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:28:49 2019 No.13368360 >>13367251 I never thought of Cadrian as a "Mature Woman" tebehe. I thought of her more of a strong warrior type.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:32:53 2019 No.13368387 >>13355879 >What are you're favourite books about first encounters? I was actually thinking about a plot like this these days. First encounters between humans and drows. Maybe I'll put it out of my head once the thought is concrete enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 21:57:17 2019 No.13368808 >>13368118 It was shilled by Chinese users. Americlap banning them has made them focus on more important things for the motherland. Book awards will not help them currently.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 22:02:57 2019 No.13368830 File: 61 KB, 510x680, 1467506767202.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13368272 Like sold? The girl's innocence dies.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 22:07:07 2019 No.13368852

>>13368337
>while I know a lot of the stuff in >>13367870 # and can attest it's mostly shit
Hence the quality varying for each reading.
I wonder what are some of your best self published books. Maybe I should make an absolute shit self published chart.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 22:08:09 2019 No.13368857 >>13368360 You forgot the dead gf's mom?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 22:14:17 2019 No.13368891 >>13368857 Apparently. Who are you talking about? You are not mistaking Cadrian for Chalaine, are you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 22:16:24 2019 No.13368899 >>13368891 The warrior is the one eye, although she older than protag, she in her early 30. The burn ward is fucking prime untouched milf pussei.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 22:17:52 2019 No.13368909 >>13368899 Is that in book 4? Fuck, I didn't finish that one yet (for over 1 year, desu, since I've started).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 22:40:47 2019 No.13369008 >>13368909 That was in book one.... Which book are we talking about? There are two books there where the protagonist fucks his dead gf's mom.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 22:42:25 2019 No.13369017 >>13369008 Heartgem Homestead. Who is the dead gf?

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 23:16:13 2019 No.13369160

>>13359103
Both, which is due to the sheer scale of the story. You won't be able to see the big picture, how everything fits together, until you're very deep into the series, like 7 or 8 books deep in this 10 book series, and each book is 700+ pages. Moreover, Malazan doesn't hold your hand and ease you into the setting with lots of explanations, you're just dropped into the middle of events as they are happening and have to figure out stuff as you go. Characters will frequently reference places, people, events, and concepts you have no way to know about, but you'll just have to trust it'll make sense eventually and keep going, and you'll have to do that for book after book.

Generally you will know a little ways into book 1 if you have the patience to keep reading, people who don't like it rarely even finish book 1.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 23:19:47 2019 No.13369173 >>13366249 You don't, you just write. If you sit around waiting for the right mood or "inspiration" you will never develop work ethic or discipline needed to write every day. And writing every day is the only way to improve.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 23:20:25 2019 No.13369177 >>13369017 The heart gem's holder, foster brother's dead gf. He was burnt along with everyone else at the start of the book by the dragon, then went balls deep in his now crispy gf's mom. That milf pussy must be deliciously succulent. smacks lips

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 23:20:49 2019 No.13369178 >>13360384 Malazan

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 23:22:11 2019 No.13369187

>>13361053
Ayy somebody else who read Shadowmarch. That's one of my favorite series by Tad and I shill it quite a lot in these threads, so glad to see somebody else has read it. When I was reading it and I realized those little blurbs at the start of the chapters were describing the same beings and same set of events but with different names and interpretations of things, I actually made a fucking web diagram to track who was related to who and what names they had. Really helped me put it all together.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 23:23:43 2019 No.13369195
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>>13369160
>You won't be able to see the big picture, how everything fits together, until you're very deep into the series, like 7 or 8 books deep in this 10 book series, and each book is 700+ pages. Moreover, Malazan doesn't hold your hand and ease you into the setting with lots of explanations, you're just dropped into the middle of events as they are happening and have to figure out stuff as you go. Characters will frequently reference places, people, events, and concepts you have no way to know about, but you'll just have to trust it'll make sense eventually and keep going, and you'll have to do that for book after book.
So....it's a badly written bloated mess?

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 23:26:42 2019 No.13369204

>>13369195
No, it's actually crafted very well, like a puzzle. Erickson is very careful to give out exactly enough information that your understanding gradually builds as you read the series, so that right as you near the climax of the series it all clicks and you finally understand everything. It's a great experience and very rewarding. The only part of the series that felt bloated and self indulgent was a long stretch of book 8, in that it didn't contribute a great deal to the story and mostly just served to pad out the novel. Generally everything Erickson includes in the books is important to some degree, but book 8 is the lone exception.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 23:58:18 2019 No.13369317 >>13369195 >So....it's a badly written bloated mess? Yes. Shit happens just to happen. Even Erikson himself admitted it was bloated beyond shit and he should have reigned it in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 00:15:01 2019 No.13369390 >>13367870 Which ones have audiobooks?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 00:30:14 2019 No.13369447 >>13369160 Just read the wiki,bro

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 01:53:43 2019 No.13369738

I wonder what would happen if I went up to my boss and asked him to fire me if I didn't provide proof that I did my writing for the week.

alternatively, I wonder what would happen if I hired a deep web hitman to kill me if I didn't provide proof that I did my writing for the week.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 02:00:13 2019 No.13369759 >>13369738 Imagine you have to write for a living.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 03:31:33 2019 No.13369994 File: 46 KB, 398x451, 1370070370508.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13369204 >Just swim through 8 fat books of poor writing, asinine characterization, and nonsensical worldbuilding, and then you will get rewarded, I promise!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 05:40:38 2019 No.13370246 File: 515 KB, 1047x848, 1560141055027.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13369994

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 06:49:23 2019 No.13370426 File: 26 KB, 480x374, 1556865528564.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13370246

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 06:55:29 2019 No.13370449 >>13370246 I fucking hate Dark Souls and Alien Isolation

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 06:57:41 2019 No.13370455 >>13369994 But book 2 & 3 are the the best fantasy novels ever written? It's not like the sole payoff is at the end of book 10.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 06:58:38 2019 No.13370458 >>13370455 >But book 2 & 3 are the the best fantasy novels ever written? I guess I'll never know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 06:59:15 2019 No.13370459 File: 34 KB, 460x580, 1552589753652.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13370455 Lmao you tasteless fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 07:01:41 2019 No.13370467 >>13370459 And what are your favorites?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 07:03:23 2019 No.13370478 >>13370467 You don't deserve to know you twat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 07:05:55 2019 No.13370485 >>13370455 >But book 2 & 3 are the the best fantasy novels ever written? Okay. Shill them to me, as if I haven't touched book 1. What's so great about them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 07:06:12 2019 No.13370487 >>13370478 Yikes. It's so trash that you are afraid to get laughed at or what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 07:14:58 2019 No.13370512 >>13370485 It's everything that you could ever want from military fantasy and the only fantasy books that had me emotionally invested enough to cry, but I don't know what more to say, without touching the plot, do I guess I am a pretty bad shill.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 07:57:12 2019 No.13370661 >>13370487 Why would I bother explaining why Lawrence of Arabia is great to a guy who thinks Ready Player One is the greatest film of all time?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 08:06:33 2019 No.13370689 >>13370661 Where did I ask "Why?"? I asked "what?" and you are refusing to answer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 08:07:45 2019 No.13370694 File: 84 KB, 419x238, 23545345345.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13370455 >But book 2 & 3 are the the best fantasy novels ever written?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 08:28:11 2019 No.13370747 >>13369390 [spoiler ]all of them[/spoiler]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 08:30:18 2019 No.13370751 >>13370661 >Lawrence of Arabia >moves from books to films >shit posted away the last post before autosage kys

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 08:40:33 2019 No.13370773 Nice touch from grrm to give tarly weak eyesight. There's a correlation between myopia and high IQ.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:18:58 2019 No.13370892 >tfw Imma make the new thread and forbid speaking of meme authors, only allowing discussion of authors that aren't mentioned >no gurm, erickson, sanderson, vance, howard, wolfe, moorecock, etc

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:32:05 2019 No.13370946 File: 6 KB, 189x223, 038FE621-9E7B-4ABB-B18C-8F17174C2BB8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are you going to buy his book /sffg/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:56:37 2019 No.13371029 >>13370946 Literally who?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:07:03 2019 No.13371069 >>13355942 Kek.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:18:55 2019 No.13371116 Barrow shill, does the dyke get raped other than when she was a loli?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:31:04 2019 No.13371167 >>13367870 >reading modern day books that weren't approved by venerable publishing houses

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:36:20 2019 No.13371185 >>13371029 Youtube sword/fantasy autist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:43:19 2019 No.13371206 >>13370946 O MY TORCHES

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:00:21 2019 No.13371278 >>13370694 >>13370467

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 12:06:30 2019 No.13371518 >>13371185 I didn't know /lit/ is a video board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 12:53:10 2019 No.13371754 Why is the catalog filled with pol raids?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 12:57:20 2019 No.13371775 >>13371754 the_donald was semi-banned

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 12:57:21 2019 No.13371776 File: 37 KB, 325x499, 51jKo8PaBML._SX323_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone read this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:12:43 2019 No.13371826 >>13371518 What does /lit/ have to do with /sffg/?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:18:52 2019 No.13371846

>Who better to fight back the darkness of the world than the one responsible for most of it?
>Daylen, once known as the Great Bastard, the Scourge of Nations, Dayless the Conqueror, has lived in hiding since his presumed death. Burdened by age and tremendous guilt, he thinks his life is coming to an end. Unbeknownst to him he’s about to embark on a journey towards redemption where his ruthless abilities might save the world. Many battles await with friends to be made and a past filled with countless crimes to confront, all the while trying to keep his true identity a secret.
>Indeed, it might be too much if not for the fabled power awaiting him.
>Everfall is a world of perpetual day where the continents float in an endless sky. If one jumps from the continent they will fall for many hours before returning to the same place from which they fell. Skyships rule the air powered by shining sunstone and industrial darkstone. A legendary order of knights bears mystical powers which they use to hunt out the dreaded Shade, monsters that regular people turn into if trapped in darkness for the length of a fall.
It is a world of enchanted swords, merciless monsters, mystical knights and hard magic, filled with tales of wonder and adventure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:23:54 2019 No.13371863 >>13371754 Also blame this board also being (philosophy).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:24:49 2019 No.13371871 >>13355901 Monthly anon, are you letting the poll run since we have time or are you picking the winner after this thread? I ask because there's not a lot of votes atm, running it for another thread wouldn't hurt imo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:29:23 2019 No.13371891 >>13371754 Not enough marx threads for you, incel?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:31:11 2019 No.13371900 >>13371863 Philosophy is /his/ >>13371826 Their multiple off-topic threads are pushing sffg to page 10.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:42:43 2019 No.13371960 >>13370467 >having favorite books Do redditors really do this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:23:24 2019 No.13372120 >>13371775 Holy fuck, you're right. They must have been going through all comments with a really fine comb ... this explains why I got permabanned from all of reddit today for a two month old comment in a The_Donald thread with hundreds of replies

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:30:08 2019 No.13372149 >>13372120 So those people are coming here, but they are going to explore outside of /ptg/ and /pol/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:33:47 2019 No.13372160 >>13371960 No clue to be honest, but liking things seems to be common on all kinds of places on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:35:35 2019 No.13372165 >>13368016 >>13367983 Either is fine as long as the narrator doesn't try to do a different voice for each character. When they use their normal voice and only try to convey tone it's perfect no matter which character is speaking

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:35:50 2019 No.13372168

>>13355879
To the person who asked about accelerando by Charles Stross last thread. It is ok-ish, just disjointed because it was originally just written for a magazine and it changes protagonists every couple of chapters or so. The ending is slightly disappointing in my opinion, the characters aren't very relatable or likeable. The writing tries too hard some times and kind of sounds very weird or odd. Also it drops terms and concepts but doesn't explain them so you kind of have to look them up. Its alright, not perfect.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:36:31 2019 No.13372170 >>13367983 Incels can't deal with females talking and that is the demographic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:09:16 2019 No.13372308 New slave, where did you go? I thought I was finally free >>13372298 >>13372298 >>13372298 >>13372298 >>13372298

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:24:43 2019 No.13372396 >>13372120 Election tourist please leave

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:41:56 2019 No.13372812 >>13371846 Interest. Title?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:10:59 2019 No.13373001 >>13372396 No worries I am German

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:30:22 2019 No.13373115 >>13372812 Guy from Youtube's first book https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Conqueror-Chronicles-Everfall-Book-ebook/dp/B07TB4YSHX

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:36:53 2019 No.13373155 >>13373115 cheers.

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