/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13343748]

What do you make of this Bukowski quote? How do you escape?

[Anonymous No.13343773]

>>13343748
Didn’t think I liked him till I read this quote. Where to start with buttcowsky

[Anonymous No.13343777]

Do something else that makes more money than being a wage slave.

[Anonymous No.13343788]

who said life would be enjoyable?

[Anonymous No.13343794]

>>13343788
Non-jews you fucking cuck

[Anonymous No.13343795]

Obviously get a job that you care about instead of signing up for something you don't want to do.

[Anonymous No.13343799]

>>13343795
Wow! Blew the case right open there chief


Fucking nigger

[Anonymous No.13343804]

>>13343795
It's hard enough to get a job you don't care about, nearly impossible to find one you wont detest. Did you succeed in this?

[Anonymous No.13343812]

>>13343794
This

[Anonymous No.13343816]

>>13343748
He was an unemployable drunk, justifying being an unemployable drunk. A bit of ressentiment showing, too...

[Anonymous No.13343819]

>>13343799
>t. wagecuck doing something he hates when his dreams are wide open to pursue

[Anonymous No.13343820]

>>13343748
Either become a craftsman, an independent contractor, or cultivate a sense of meaning in the knowledge work you do.

It’s popular to meme with these nihilistic quotes by bukowski and the like, but working is not what makes one unhappy, it’s lack of purpose and meaning, which if one reads between the lines of that quote one can see to be true.

[Anonymous No.13343833]

>>13343748
What an insufferable negative faggot this guy was. Work has always been part of human existence. Even in the Garden of Eden where everything was perfect, Adam had a job to tend the garden, he wasn't just walking around doing nothing. In order to survive and be self-sufficient you need to work as you need to provide value to society and your fellow man so you can earn money to buy necessities and things which you desire. Work is healthy for the mind, body and spirit, there is a reason why people who don't work are mostly depressed drug addicts..

[Anonymous No.13343842]

>>13343748
Bukowski is very important to stupid people. He built a poetry career on stating the obvious. Much like Bill Hicks and George Carlin, he’s easy to understand and is utterly banal. He also lead an incredibly unhealthy lifestyle while wearing fashionable jackets, so his cult of personality is easy to get behind.
Bukowski is a tabloid poet, and all of the sensationalism exists within his reputation.

[Anonymous No.13343843]

>>13343816
He worked at the post office for the majority of his life.
>>13343820
You spend the majority of your day either working or commuting to/from work so I can see how a shit job could make anyone feel discontent and lost. I agree with you that it's about purpose and meaning at it's core but your job plays a huge part in giving you a meaningful existence.

[Anonymous No.13343846]

>>13343816
He supported himself with his art instead of being a field nigger for Shlomo, and you recruit Nietzsche to shit on him. HAH. Retard.

>>13343819
I get paid stacks to do what I went to school for, doesn't mean the system is fucked. Retadd

[Anonymous No.13343853]

>>13343833
>conflating a 40+ hour work week with man's primordial condition

Lmfao fucking nigger mongoloid retard

[Anonymous No.13343865]

>>13343842
the best poets are godly men like King David, William Blake, Miłosz, etc. Bukkake was an atheist hack and a massive degenerate.

[Anonymous No.13343871]

>>13343846
I never said the system wasn't fucked, I'm saying that if you wanted to, you could still pursue something that actually gave you happiness

[Anonymous No.13343880]

>>13343853
>thinks working 40 hours a week is a big deal and something hard
lmao, snowflake detected. that's like 8 hrs a day, 5 days a week, you have literally the majority of the week to masturbate and watch anime, retard.

you can't escape work, snowflake, humans were meant to work, provide value and help improve the world, it's in our DNA, that's why without work people become drug addicts and depressed, they lose their purpose and meaning. even adam and god himself worked. you think the universe created itself you degenerate atheist slime?

[Anonymous No.13343908]

>>13343880
fucking retard burger can't disassociate the modern 40+ hour work week from artistic pursuits

using the bible to justify a secular work schedule, fucking pathetic. shlomo would be proud

[Anonymous No.13343918]

I work as painter, my job is honestly pretty chill and going to work doesnt bother me at all, because Im not a man child trying to avoid the fundamental reality of a certain amount of unfreedom as part of the human condition.

[Anonymous No.13343927]

>>13343880
>appealing to christniggardry

We lad

Humans aren't meant for fucking anything. Just dow what you fucking feel. In your case, that means being a pretentious nigger with visions of grandeur. Bravo.

[Anonymous No.13343939]

>>13343908
>using the bible to justify a secular work schedule
a secular work schedule is actually incredibly easy compared to the work arrangements of the past. i love how people working in an office who probably do 1-3 hrs of actual productive work a day complain about how hard their existence is. you're a privileged snowflake and wouldn't survive a day in any other period of human existence.

>shlomo
opinion disregarded. you are clearly mentally ill. please seek help.

[Anonymous No.13343945]

>>13343918
based and redpilled. god bless you.

[Anonymous No.13343947]

>>13343795

[Anonymous No.13343948]

Become a successful YouTuber

[Anonymous No.13343952]

>>13343939
i literally can't fathom how broke brained you have to be to use the bible to argue for modern office cuckoldry, which is completely antithetical to religion and eternity.

kill yourself nigger fucking retard

[Anonymous No.13343957]

No one should ever work.

Work is the source of nearly all the misery in the world. Almost any evil you'd care to name comes from working or from living in a world designed for work. In order to stop suffering, we have to stop working.

That doesn't mean we have to stop doing things. It does mean creating a new way of life based on play; in other words, a *ludic* conviviality, commensality, and maybe even art. There is more to play than child's play, as worthy as that is. I call for a collective adventure in generalized joy and freely interdependent exuberance. Play isn't passive. Doubtless we all need a lot more time for sheer sloth and slack than we ever enjoy now, regardless of income or occupation, but once recovered from employment-induced exhaustion nearly all of us want to act. Oblomovism and Stakhanovism are two sides of the same debased coin.

The ludic life is totally incompatible with existing reality. So much the worse for "reality," the gravity hole that sucks the vitality from the little in life that still distinguishes it from mere survival. Curiously -- or maybe not -- all the old ideologies are conservative because they believe in work. Some of them, like Marxism and most brands of anarchism, believe in work all the more fiercely because they believe in so little else.

Liberals say we should end employment discrimination. I say we should end employment. Conservatives support right-to-work laws. Following Karl Marx's wayward son-in-law Paul Lafargue I support the right to be lazy. Leftists favor full employment. Like the surrealists -- except that I'm not kidding -- I favor full *un*employment. Trotskyists agitate for permanent revolution. I agitate for permanent revelry. But if all the ideologues (as they do) advocate work -- and not only because they plan to make other people do theirs -- they are strangely reluctant to say so. They will carry on endlessly about wages, hours, working conditions, exploitation, productivity, profitability. They'll gladly talk about anything but work itself. These experts who offer to do our thinking for us rarely share their conclusions about work, for all its saliency in the lives of all of us. Among themselves they quibble over the details. Unions and management agree that we ought to sell the time of our lives in exchange for survival, although they haggle over the price. Marxists think we should be bossed by bureaucrats. Libertarians think we should be bossed by businessmen. Feminists don't care which form bossing takes so long as the bosses are women. Clearly these ideology-mongers have serious differences over how to divvy up the spoils of power. Just as clearly, none of them have any objection to power as such and all of them want to keep us working.

[Anonymous No.13343964]

>what is self employed & working from home

[Anonymous No.13343965]

Fucking Amerishart bootlickers in the thread as always.

[Anonymous No.13343970]

>>13343927
The point I was making to your deranged degenerate atheist brain is that even God himself worked to create the universe, you don't have to believe in the Bible or God to get the point I was making.

>Humans aren't meant for fucking anything
Humans are meant to reproduce and survive which requires obtaining resources, obtaining resources in the modern day age requires being valuable to your fellow man and society by providing value.

[Anonymous No.13343971]

>>13343918
>I work as painter
Post your work. If you want to make any sort of artistic achievement you have to dedicate a significant portion of your time to it, time that people don't have if they're working 8+ hours a day. Cormac Mccarthy was broke and lived in fucking motels just so he could focus on his writing. To dismiss such an oppressive force on the modern man as the state of things is just plain retarded.

[Anonymous No.13343976]

>>13343964
A fantasy

[Anonymous No.13343979]

>>13343965
One day per week is all we need.
Yet, technomutts want 100-hour weeks.

[Anonymous No.13343982]

>>13343970
>humans are meant to reproduce and consume
>you're the atheist!

stop. just fucking stop. oh my god.

[Anonymous No.13343986]

>>13343952
modern office cuckoldry can hardly be called work, can you imagine an actual slave living in the 1800s seeing you absolute morons complain about how hard your life is? like if he an actual slave say you calling your nice comfortable air conditioned office job 'wage slavery' he would literally choke you with his chain.

you're pathetic and you wouldn't survive a single day in other period of human existence. you're a snowflake and can hardly be called a real man.

[Anonymous No.13343987]

>>13343965
This kills the bootlicker.

[Anonymous No.13343999]

>>13343982
>humans are meant to reproduce
Yes we're meant to reproduce from an evolutionary perspective that is the whole point of life - to survive by reproducing our DNA. You can deny it all you want but that's the reality.

Also you can consume without being a consumerist.

[Anonymous No.13344001]

>>13343986
ive worked since i was 15, blue collar and white collar jobs. i get paid to write, and i used to work as a fencer

you're a fucking retard and your opinion means fucking shit. citing genesis to justify working 40+ hour weeks in a society that would rather wipe their ass with the source of your argument, kill yourself. the only thing worse than a sycophant for the system is someone like you.

[Anonymous No.13344002]

>>13343970
Lol you're such a retard

[Anonymous No.13344004]

>>13343970
People aren't providing value, the vast majority of them are wasting away at an office stretching out 5 minutes of work to 8 hours. The modern work week is not natural and it is a fairly recent historical phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.13344008]

>>13343999
reproduction for the sake of reproduction is the religion of a cancer cell

kill. your. fucking. self.

[Anonymous No.13344012]

>>13343986
>you're a snowflake and can hardly be called a real man
Not the guy you're replying too but please stop acting tough on a mongolian cartoon enthusiast forum, it's just embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.13344014]

>>13343957
Fuck yeah, bro

[Anonymous No.13344040]

Just let robots do everything, we got the technology, plus they don't need to leave and they need few maintenance that can be done by other robots, perfect utopia.

[Anonymous No.13344042]

>>13344001
>ive worked since i was 15, blue collar and white collar jobs. i get paid to write, and i used to work as a fencer
So why the fuck are you complaining, retard?

>working 40+ hour weeks in a society
No one is forcing you to work 40+ hours a week, in this society, we have actual freedom, you can design a lifestyle for yourself where you can make by working part-time or have your own business or be a freelancer. These things are all possible if you aren't a completely oblivious retard. You're whining and complaining about living in the most comfortable and easy period of human history. You're an ungrateful low life who doesn't deserve to live in this period of human history.

>>13344004
>People aren't providing value
How are they getting paid then, retard? Do you even know what value is?

>The modern work week is not natural
Another retard complaining about working in the easiest time in human history lmao, you wouldn't survive as a peasant or a slave. You're an embarrassment.

>>13344008
Incel detected. Any sane and healthy human being has a drive towards reproducing. It's one of the biggest drivers of everything we do.

>>13344012
Not acting tough at all, but how can you actually call yourself a man and complain about having an office job? Like you have to be a clueless retard who actually doesn't understand how hard people used to work in the old days. The fact that you even are able to whine about your job shows how privileged you are.

[Anonymous No.13344052]

>>13343871
What if my happiness only comes through the overthrowal of previous orders?

[Anonymous No.13344061]

>>13344042
i just wnat you to know i have a retort for every one of your points, but you're so fucking stupid i won't do you the pleasure

[Anonymous No.13344063]

>>13343748
I can't even get a job and be a proud slave haha jokes on you

[Anonymous No.13344069]

>>13344052
Then do that

[Anonymous No.13344074]

>>13344061
You can't reply because you're lazy which makes sense because you're complaining about having a job lmao

>>13344063
But you are a slave. A janitor is more free than you. You need to rely on the government, parents or some other external source in order to survive. How is that not slavery?

[Anonymous No.13344086]

>>13343842
what i like about him is that he couldn’t stand to be in a room with people who wrote and thought like you

[Anonymous No.13344088]

Just learn how to code from home, lol

[Anonymous No.13344096]

>>13344088
Any resources to help?

[Anonymous No.13344099]

>>13344074
we are never free lad

[Anonymous No.13344119]

>>13344099
It's a good thing. Low IQ people like you wouldn't be able to handle complete freedom.

[Anonymous No.13344128]

>>13344096
If you are really asking then check out the python course on the MIT youtube channel.
But imo, it is about the most disgusting worksphere out there.

[Anonymous No.13344134]

>>13344119
have sex

[Anonymous No.13344140]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_i8_WuyqAY

Relevant

[Anonymous No.13344253]

>using religion and the survival needs of humans to justify wage slavery at a cubicle

Holy shit and yet that cuck says we aren't men.

[Anonymous No.13344483]

>>13344253
>calls his comfy and easy office/cubicle job 'slavery'
>calls me a cuck
lmao look at this pathetic and whiny beta male. if an actual slave saw you calling your office job 'slavery' he would have strangled you with his own chain and then he would have taken a shit in your mouth. you're a privileged middle class manchild who has no real worries in life, people with legit worries and problems don't whine about shit like this.

[Anonymous No.13344493]

>>13344140
basement dwelling philosopher who lives a care free easy life complaining about meaningless shit lmao. a person who has a family and real problems and goals doesn't whine about shit like this. get over yourself and get on with your life you absolute manchild snowflake retard.

[Anonymous No.13344505]

>he doesnt get up at sunrise
pathetic desu

[Anonymous No.13344516]

Stop posting dude these losers have brain rot from spending 10+ hours a day in their neet echo chambers.

[Anonymous No.13344528]

>>13343748
he would have looked really good with some sweet mutton chops

[Anonymous No.13344540]

there is nothing better in life than to BTFO manchild NEETs who think they are too woke or too inteligent for a job. it's been a pleasure demolishing you losers. the fact of the matter is you are the biggest slaves of all, a janitor who works has more freedom and self-sufficiency than you and is providing more valuable to the world and society than your worthless shitposting ass. can you imagine if all the janitors in the world stopped working or existing for a week? the world would be a filthy disgusting mess. if every single NEET stopped existing there would be a net improvement in society. suicides would decrease, mass murders would decrease, depression would decrease, the state would have more tax dollars to spend on people who really need it, there would be less racism, average levels of happiness would increase, etc.

lastly the manchild NEETs also call you a consumerist for wanting to work and provide a better life for yourself and your family but then spend all day consuming (reading books, watching movies, listening to music, etc.) without actually creating anything. I've seen you pathetic NEETs share your writings, you all suck, you spend most of the time reading and not writing because you are lazy (hence why you don't want to work). also if you are so obsessed with reading and researching, why not go into academia instead of just trying to gain wisdom to stroke your own ego?

don't even reply to me anymore, I've embarrassed every single one of you whiny manchildren. please seek mental help, seek God, find a job, find a mate, start a family and start living instead of wasting away. good luck and god bless.

[Anonymous No.13344553]

>>13343748
There is no escape. Even in nature people are compelled to work for their survival. I find it hard to take someone seriously who so thoroughly rejects society but never leaves it.

[Anonymous No.13344554]

>>13343748
i'm a freelancer and i work at home, fuck off charles

[Anonymous No.13344555]

>>13344540
>if 10% of the taxpayers went away (inb4 sales tax doesn't exist) the state would have more tax dollars
read an economics textbook sometime instead of inaneposting on /lit/

[Anonymous No.13344562]

>>13344540
13 year old anon who just read Ayn Rand for the first time please

[Anonymous No.13344563]

>>13344540

[Anonymous No.13344568]

>>13344540
>the fact of the matter is you are the biggest slaves of all, a janitor who works has more freedom and self-sufficiency than you and is providing more valuable to the world and society than your worthless shitposting ass. can you imagine if all the janitors in the world stopped working or existing for a week?
It's impossible for all of the janitors to organize not working together for a week because they are slaves and 100% compelled to continue their disgusting labor, lmao.

[Anonymous No.13344612]

>>13344483
>you aren't a kid starving in Africa, so you should be the happiest man on earth.

It's not even about suffering but meaning. When you are wasting your life on a cubicle at something meaningless that could be avoided to do and nothing will happen, you are a bug.

[Anonymous No.13344621]

>>13344540
>t. a boomer that watched Peterson videos

[Anonymous No.13344624]

>>13344540
based get a job and have sex poster

[Anonymous No.13344628]

>>13344563
>"Issues related to that message have been handled internally. The message sent does not align with our core values of personal growth and diversity," Permacorp said in a statement.

[Anonymous No.13344636]

>>13343971
lol I think he meant he paints houses and stuff.

[Anonymous No.13344644]

>>13344553
Bro, in nature you'd be chilling with your extended family eating berries, wild meat, and spend you free time playing and fucking. There's no comparison, modern life is fucking he'll, you've just been brainwashed to think it's great.

[Anonymous No.13344650]

>>13344553
stupid fucking nigger, here are your goals for the day back then:

1. eat
2. drink
3. be comfortable

[Anonymous No.13344651]

>>13344042
Peasants and Hunter gathers worked 4 hours a day and had access to fresh food and plenty of sunshine. The industrial revolution and cubicle wage slaving and drastically worse, nigger tier conditions, but you are too much of a retard to understand that.

[Anonymous No.13344655]

>>13344644
its 2019 not fucking 10,000 BC

[Anonymous No.13344656]

>>13344628
And?
Why the fuck are you reddit cunts even here?

[Anonymous No.13344659]

>>13343748
>not having people to work for you

Brainlets, losers.

[Anonymous No.13344662]

>>13344655
>it's 2019
>we need 100-hour weeks

[Anonymous No.13344664]

>>13344655
lmao so? the fuck?

[Anonymous No.13344667]

>>13343957
Yeah, I've read Bob Black, too...

[Anonymous No.13344669]

>>13344656
Bitch I verify shit I see on the internet. It took 15 seconds to find that quote.

>millennial stemfags like to be 'comfy' at work
What does this have to do with anything?

[Anonymous No.13344670]

>>13344655
Omg, you are so fucking retarded dude, lmao, so you admit natural life style is superior to wageslavery

[Anonymous No.13344672]

>>13344659
Yeah, bro. Everyone can be a seller.

[Anonymous No.13344674]

>>13344664
People ate berries and wrestled and fucked all day because they were too stupid to do anything else. Go smoke plastic.

[Anonymous No.13344676]

>>13344669
yikes

[Anonymous No.13344677]

>>13344644
What would the average life expectancy be for these berry eaters? There's a reason civilization won out, it has advantages people prefer.

[Anonymous No.13344679]

>>13344670
See >>13344674

[Anonymous No.13344681]

The absolute levels of ASS in this thread.

[Anonymous No.13344682]

>>13344662
Elon musk is such a fucking nigger conman faggot. I hate cucks who worship this dude. It's the same fags who microdose lsd to be more productive at work.

[Anonymous No.13344688]

>>13344674
fucking christ americans are retarded niggers man

[Anonymous No.13344690]

>>13344677

[Anonymous No.13344692]

>>13344679
Yeah because working your entire life in a cubicle like a nigger cuck is for smart people. You are such a retard, dude. I sincerely hope you kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.13344709]

>>13344677
What's the life expectancy of our nigger tier ((civilization)) built on irreplaceable and finite natural resources that will run out in 50 to 100 years? Fucking aboriginals lived in harmony with their environment for hundreds of thousands of years, and modern society has fucked everything up in barely 100m who is the real stupid nigger, you insufferable faggot. I unironically respect a native Hunter gatherer infinitely more than stem sucks and Elon Musk.

[Anonymous No.13344710]

>Bukowski

[Anonymous No.13344720]

>>13344677
>There's a reason civilization won out
violence

[Anonymous No.13344724]

I don't brush my teeth

[Anonymous No.13344732]

>>13344709
>What's the life expectancy of our nigger tier ((civilization)) built on irreplaceable and finite natural resources that will run out in 50 to 100 years?
Imagine being so dumb and scientifically illiterate you actually worry about global warming or resource scarcity.

[Anonymous No.13344733]

>>13344692
As if I would ever work in a cubicle. Im outside all day faggot and work as few or as many hours as desired.
Go bang your head against the wall then move in with a tree hugging hippy commune if you think there is more meaning in living simply. Protip there isnt any more its just easier to find because there is less.

[Anonymous No.13344737]

>>13344720
>advocates a return to nature
>takes issue with violence
which is it faggot

[Anonymous No.13344741]

>>13344709
>built on irreplaceable and finite natural resources that will run out in 50 to 100 years
Drink lead paint and die.

Aboriginals lived like truly barbarous animals and the ones outside of civilization are still the same today. Nigga they were too stupid to even farm shit. Kys.

[Anonymous No.13344743]

>>13344709
le found the ecofash

[Anonymous No.13344752]

>>13344682
He is a despicable creature. Obvious deep state asset and reddit just laps it up.

[Anonymous No.13344753]

>>13344737
i was explaining why you were factually wrong about causation. why get mad and start arguing about value judgements?

[Anonymous No.13344759]

>>13344741
>>13344709
Oh and by the way the reasons Aboriginals are such animals is because everything about Australia is pure hell for a hunter gatherer lifestyle. Cities in Australia are among the most livable in the world, thanks to modern civilization.

[Anonymous No.13344766]

>>13344733
>the modern american lifestyle is the default human condition

you can't make this fucking shit up

[Anonymous No.13344767]

>>13344709
>aboriginals
Kek

[Anonymous No.13344769]

>>13344753
I'm not wrong, your post is the equivalent of saying people preferred to die than join civilization which is obviously stupid. It completely relies on the value judgement of negativity ascribed to violence itself.

[Anonymous No.13344779]

>>13344741
These guys wouldn't last a day in a hunter gather society nor would they last a day as a peasant in the middle ages. They live lives of such insane levels of comfort and abundance that kings couldn't even fathom living the way they do. They're mentally ill, whiny and ungrateful.

[Anonymous No.13344788]

>>13344732

Wew lad

Peak oil was in 2006. Only reason US production increased was due to fracking, which is a lot harder to extract and provides less energy for significant more work. We have already extracted all the low hanging fruit, and our economy, which is based on a finite planet, is based on a model of infinite growth. To top it all off, we are fucked when it comes to alternative energy sources, as solar, hydro, and geothermal are all either prohibitively expensive to implement, harm local ecosystems, provide inconsistent or unreliable power production. Only real viable option is nuclear, but then you are limited to where you can safely place plants, and dealing with hazardous waste will always be an issue. Regardless, the fact is coal and oil are fucking energy powerhouses, no other fuel sources even come close, and we have based our economy on the assumption that these energy dense resources will always be at our disposal, which they won't, as they are already become more scarce and more expensive to extract. Combine this shit with global warming, plastic pollution and ecosystem collapse, you have one global scale disaster. Stop being a fucking retard and educate yourself on the issue, or better yet, kill yourself for being a fucking retard. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.13344789]

>>13344779
>these guys born dependent on the system and who are aware of it have no right to criticize humanity's dependency on the system
>because they're dependent on it

hot fuckin' take bud

[Anonymous No.13344791]

>>13344766
Not what I said and the default human condition doesnt exist.

[Anonymous No.13344793]

>>13344769
you insinuated people stopped hunter gathering to get jobs because of greater life expectancy and other quality of life improvements over everyone hunter gathering. they really did it to get their shit stolen less. if your argument is that civilization is good because it makes you better at violence have the balls to say that instead of pretending people were migrating to mesopotamia because they heard people live longer

[Anonymous No.13344795]

>>13344743
Not an argument, faggot

[Anonymous No.13344801]

>>13344791
i beg to differ your rootless fucking scum bag

[Anonymous No.13344803]

>>13343833
The quote is predominantly about the labor theory of value, and exploitation by capitalists.

[Anonymous No.13344813]

>>13344801
Are these ideas you hold natural to you? Or were they formed over years of browsing 4chan? Dont fool yourself.
Like I said nigga drink lead paint and smoke plastic then go live in a hippy commune or shut the fuck up you whiny little girly boy.

[Anonymous No.13344821]

>>13344813
>you didn't immediately gravitate to the default human condition in an artificial system therefore...

eh shut the fuck up dude and get back to work

[Anonymous No.13344827]

>>13343970
God is an all powerful being, he need not work to accomplish anything

[Anonymous No.13344835]

>>13344821
>default human condition
>2019 AD

[Anonymous No.13344900]

>>13344793
I need to stop arguing with people who don't know how to argue...

>>13344788
>Peak oil was in 2006. Only reason US production increased was due to fracking, which is a lot harder to extract and provides less energy for significant more work. We have already extracted all the low hanging fruit

[Anonymous No.13344944]

>>13344803
>The quote is predominantly about the labor theory of value,
No it’s fucking not lol, why would you go around using terms that you don’t understand as if you were an expert?

[Anonymous No.13344946]

>>13344540
B A S E D havesex poster

[Anonymous No.13344961]

>>13343748
Why art hoes love Bukowski if he kind of was a gross misogynist?

[Anonymous No.13345007]

>>13344540
based boomer

[Anonymous No.13345018]

>>13343748
Start your own business.

[Anonymous No.13345042]

>>13344656
Everyone who tries to pull the reddit card is actually a secret redditor themselves.

[Anonymous No.13345177]

>>13344900
That's us production retard, and that's largely due to the influx of tracking.

[Anonymous No.13345182]

>>13344900
Fracking***

Which counts for half of us oil production, you are such an ignorant idiot

[Anonymous No.13345190]

>>13345042
Sounds like something reddit would say.

[Anonymous No.13345203]

>>13344900
The whole reason we started to frack was because we ran out of the easy to drill wells. Tracking yields less energy for more effort, and it pollutes the fuck out of the environment, yet you are a blithering retard and are arguing that this somehow disproves my point about resource scarcity. WE SWITCHED TO FRACKING BECAUSE WE ALREADY DRILLED ALL THE OTHER WELLS. Holy fuck, you are dumb.

[Anonymous No.13345231]

>>13343748
How do you escape shitting and pissing?

[Anonymous No.13345254]

>>13345203
>>13345182
>>13345177
None of that is true. We switched to fracking because it is cheaper and lessens our dependence on foreign oil. Also, fracking pollution is a meme propagated by insane leftists, who don't actually care about the environment but care about convincing people it's an issue for political identity.

[Anonymous No.13345264]

>>13345254
Breathtaking, honestly, please kill yourself, you're such a retard

[Anonymous No.13345280]

>>13344900
Nothing triggers environmental alarmists more than statistics. How's that global warming going faggots?
*reaches all time high sea ice levels and replenishes the ozone behind your back*
Nothing personal, kiddies.

[Anonymous No.13345298]

>>13345254
I'm tired of arguing with you retarded ass, you clearly have made your mind up and are convinced we have infinite oil and anyone who says otherwise is just some leftists commie faggot. Problem is you have been fucking wrong at literally every point.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/active-trading/051215/cost-shale-oil-versus-conventional-oil.asp

Tracking is MORE expensive that traditional oil well drilling because who not only have to physically create a reservoir, you also have to pump in a shit ton of additional chemicals and shit in order to extract the fluid, which then needs to be processed to turn it into crude. You are partially correct about there being a political motivation to move away from dependency from Middle Eastern oil, but you are dead wrong about resource scarcity. This shit is finite and getting harder to find. The only reason us production increased is because we are squeezing the sponge like a mother fucker in order to pick up the slack, but this in no way means we are dealing with a bountiful, let alone unlimited resource. I actually work in the energy sector, I'm sick of hearing retard like you spouting nonsense about resource scarcity being a myth. It's not a myth it's a fact, you fucking idiot.

You are such a retarded faggot, kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.13345317]

>>13343748
Accelerate this unsustainable system until it collapses, so humanity can return to a system of utmost autonomy and self-determination

[Anonymous No.13345334]

>>13345298
Based

[Anonymous No.13345336]

>>13345298
>all these massive businesses are doing X because it costs more!
Your link disagrees with your stance btw, maybe read it. Morons have been screaming about us running out of oil for almost a century now, you guys are the new Malthusians I guess.

[Anonymous No.13345340]

>>13345334
>>13345298
>that desperate samefaggotry
no-one can help you faggot
you've lost an argument on the internet
oh no

[Anonymous No.13345351]

>/lit/ claims to be the most intellectual board capable of tackling Hegelian dialectics with ease
>can’t even dissect a simple Bukowski quote
Hmmmm

[Anonymous No.13345352]

Kill yourself faggot glownigger kike

[Anonymous No.13345656]

>>13344086
The insufferable thing about Bukowski is that he’d say I didn’t “get” his work. As though he were incredibly deep, and I was missing the subtext of his work. The truth is that he was simply so full of self loathing that me criticizing his work would be intolerable. Dude used to polish off multiple bottles of wine a day.

[Anonymous No.13345696]

>>13344540
Racism is a good thing retard.

[Anonymous No.13345732]

>>13344540
top tier wagecuck SEETHE

[Anonymous No.13345745]

>>13343788
imagine being such a soulless cuck that you think the only possible life is the one your wage master prescribed you. jesus christ and they say leftists are cucks.

[Anonymous No.13345957]

>>13343987
A woman drew this.

[Anonymous No.13346031]

>>13343773
Post office is the best place to start, then some of his short stories. If you like those then read Ham on Rye it's by far the best thing he wrote but that's almost a response to his earlier stuff so it's worth reading that after you've read a bit of his earlier work

[Anonymous No.13346059]

>>13343833
such an apologetic attitude, with such a platitude.

[Anonymous No.13346077]

What Enlightenment era ressentement of a hell hole thread have I stumbled upon? Jesus christ all of you know fuck all about holding down a job and fuck any masculine virtue signalling otherwise, the modern working world is about an honest expression of the will as a sexless automaton . Now this >>13346031 is the only useful comment in the thread. If you can find any of his poetry books, I’d say they’re worth flipping through. As for escape, anon, I have some bad news...

[Anonymous No.13346173]

>>13343833
>"christian" that argues with the bible
>proud wagecuck
>hates negativity
Wew

[Anonymous No.13346184]

>>13344682
absolutely
I hate the fact that his "solution" to seemingly all our problems is a mars mission and electric luxury cars. What a capitalist scumbag this guy is.

[Anonymous No.13346190]

we take the western powers full nosedive into socialism just to prove for once and final it doesn't work then from the ashes we as ape men band together and fight the chinese who are the only superpower left

[Anonymous No.13346203]

>>13345696
So is white genocide

[Anonymous No.13346227]

>>13345190
For some reason, even though he was an aggressor, he still became violently defensive when it was suggested he is a redditor. I guess he is one who likes to fight. It is the reddit equivalent of the red pill. But what if he was not someone who was "good for nothing"? Then what does the reddit redditor do when faced with hostility? In this example, I was not sure if I should escalate the situation or just escalate the situation with a non-emotional response. The redditor then left out the reason for his behaviour. The redditor's response was to be rude - which I do not disagree with, just a little awkward at first, and then relaxed as he understood how important it is to respect an owner's boundaries. I also don't understand this reddit redditor. What if he simply wanted someone to come into his room? What if he simply wanted someone to leave his room? What if he wanted someone else to come into his room? What if he said something like you have the right not to comment on my personal space and I am not going to respond to that. What would you do with that?

[Anonymous No.13346611]

>>13343748
Move to Europe

[Anonymous No.13346703]

>>13343748
You aren't supposed to enjoy it. You're supposed to endure so you have the capitol to every moment you're not working.

[Anonymous No.13346864]

>>13343748
You can't. You H A V E to suffer this situation until you can afford to buy enough property and resources to be self-sufficient. Like it or not, the world is rigged against you and there's no way to change that. Just get a STEM major and throw your 20s away so you can get as much capital as possible before quitting

[Anonymous No.13346881]

>>13343795
Pure delusion. All the enjoyable work is free or poorly compensated because people are willing to take less pay for a better time. All these jobs are taken anyway, so you shouldn't humor it anyway.

[Anonymous No.13347381]

>>13343748
We should be in awe of he people who are able to do that, not spew arrogant, slothful bile like Charlie-I'd-Fuck-Anything-That's-Buy-Me-A-Drinkowski.

[Anonymous No.13347390]

>>13344662
Like this faggots works more than 12 hours a week.
Even then his work is basically looking over charts his people made him and having dinner with the next government aid bringing him his paycheck.

[Anonymous No.13347399]

>>13343748
>make money for someone else
I love it when butthurt useless lefties pull this hack line of reasoning
Obviously someone’s never had a job past flipping burgers

[Anonymous No.13347407]

>>13343804
>no one likes their job
I’m not trying to make a cheap dig here, I’m just being honest
You need to get off 4chan for a bit- the world is not just full of but is literally driven by people who love what they do
Stop being so self defeatist

[Anonymous No.13347415]

>>13345656
So you don't really get it. Good to know, now go back to sucking your own dick or whatever you people do in private.

[Anonymous No.13347447]

>>13347415
>t. Bukowski
Go beat your wife some more, uninteresting dilettante

[Anonymous No.13347455]

>>13345351
Better then scrolling through /pol I suppose

[Anonymous No.13347881]

>>13343748
Only a punk beats his wife.

[Anonymous No.13347898]

>>13343748
>Walden & Supertramp intensifies

[Anonymous No.13347927]

>>13343979
Those silicon valley CEOs count networking during golf trips and paid dinners as work, you shouldn't listen to what they recommend for hours worked in a week

[Anonymous No.13348009]

>>13343748
be self employed easy

[Anonymous No.13348057]

/r9k/ was a mistake

[Anonymous No.13348066]

Dame dame dame

[Anonymous No.13349155]

>>13344682
truly bizarre how he's the face of these rags to riches entrepreneurship videos when his dad was a multimillionaire diamond mine owner/engineer and his mum was a famous model

[Anonymous No.13349172]

>>13347415
You should check out Rupi Kaur. It’s like Bukowski in female form.

[Anonymous No.13349179]

>People think work is bad

Only entitled faggots who want gibs think this way

[Anonymous No.13349181]

>>13343788
this

false expectations: the thread

[Anonymous No.13349204]

Masturbate inbetween all that?

Honestly, it isn't so bad if you just get the stuff done

[Anonymous No.13349220]

>>13349179
Work isn't bad. Wagecuckery is bad.

[Anonymous No.13349238]

>>13349220
work is pretty bad, it's only merit in itself is potentially avoiding boredom. "there is work to do" has negative connotations as it suggests things are not in their proper place. I don't know of any conception of a heaven where people work.

[Anonymous No.13349239]

>>13343795
If it were something people WANTED to do instead of something that they're obligated to do, you would have to pay for the privelage instead of being paid to do the job.

Wages are about transferable obligation. As a business owner, you have more work that you have to do than you can do yourself, so you hire more people and dole out work. This work is done because it needs to be done, not because people want to do it.

If you were a business owner running, say, a miniature golf course or a go-kart track, you're going to sell access to these things because people want to do them and you own the things people want to do. You aren't going to pay people to ride your go-karts, play your video games, or study the fascination shit in the world THEY want to study.

[Anonymous No.13349295]

>>13344788
Evidently somebody forgot to tell this guy that the US is still sitting on the world's most massive oil deposit and that we haven't actually drained even a tenth of it. The truth is, we're simply approaching the point where the oil sector is going to have to either accept a cut in their profits because of the increased cost to draw oil from further down/in worse conditions using current methods, or they're going to have to invest a massive upfront cost to R&D new methods for drawing oil out of deep deposits entirely, which might give their shareholders butthurt feelings in the short term even though they'd still get filthy rich in the long term.

Also the industry is using the panic in... a lot of different ways, so they're glad to push the narrative that we're "Running out of oil". It helps the energy industry, the military and the state all push different agendas if the cars everyone relies on to get to work every day are suddenly going to become more expensive if we don't do X or Y and dance to the tune.

Realistically though, there's no upper limit to what humans can build as far as infrastructure. You CAN tear up a massive hole in the ground the size of Texas, and install a pipe roughly the size of Rhode Island that pulls up actual metric fucktons of oil every day to supply us with cheap, abundant energy for another ten thousand years of pollution and neglect. The oil is there, the industry just doesn't want to foot the bill for getting it out of the ground.

America lifted an entire city up on jacks and put a sewer system underneath it after it was already built. They managed to make a river flow the wrong direction in order to flush out chemical pollution. I see no reason why we can't keep pulling out oil until there isn't another drop left, as long as money isn't the issue we get hung up on.

The problem is that any stop in endless upward growth crashes the market, and endless upward growth isn't a thing that really exists.

[Anonymous No.13349353]

>>13343748
Live in a van.

[Anonymous No.13349541]

Personally, i find that brushing my teeth before i have breakfast helps

[Anonymous No.13349550]

>>13343748
Didn't know he was a Marxist

[Anonymous No.13349565]

>>13343748
alarm clocks are degenerate

[Anonymous No.13349739]

>>13343748
We must imagine Sisyphus as happy

[Anonymous No.13349818]

>>13349541
>Reply
XD

[Anonymous No.13349829]

>>13343748
Because if they don't want that job, I'll gladly take it from them.

[Anonymous No.13349836]

>>13343957
You can't eat art, faggot

[Anonymous No.13349855]

>>13343957
>that image
Shut up you insuferable faggot, your parents who work hard to support your lazy ass should kick you out on the street and see how happy you are to believe all that crap your spewing whilst fighting other homeless people with rusty shivs for pizza scraps.

[Anonymous No.13349862]

>>13344944
>where you made a lot of money for someone else and were asked to be grateful for doing so
Imagine being this retarded lol

[Anonymous No.13349890]

>>13343748
>What do you make of this Bukowski quote?
100% accurate.

>How do you escape?
Generational wealth really helps t bh

[Anonymous No.13349894]

>>13345317
Based.
Zerzan is a nice fella. And long before SJWs were punching nazis they were trying to do it to him.

[Anonymous No.13349905]

>>13343964
It's spending so much time hounding your clients for payement that you're back to a 40+ hour week.

Nevertheless I do hope to make it so I can support myself on a part time income than transition to maybe 20 hours a week freelance work.

[Anonymous No.13349911]

>>13349855
>>13349836

[Anonymous No.13349923]

>>13347927
Did you read it?

[Anonymous No.13349927]

>>13343748
because you make money, that you can use to get some of the greatest and most complex creations of all time, with an effort so small it would be unthinkable even a centaury ago.

[Anonymous No.13349934]

>>13347407
Their parents didn't stop them from getting the necessary education and credentials when they were most ready to absorb them because they were fucking Jehovah's Witnesses.

[Anonymous No.13349947]

>>13343833
>Adam had a job

what did Eve do all day while Adam was at work?

checkmate atheists.

[Anonymous No.13349948]

>>13349911
>"yeah anon, you show them, he, I haven't worked my whole life since my parents died and look at me now, I'm free to do whatever and go wherever my two legs and plastic bags let me !!!!"

[Anonymous No.13350030]

Learn something that will get you job where you aren't forced to work like a slave then?
I work remote (web dev stuff) and spend most of my day doing whatever the fuck I want.

[Anonymous No.13350099]

>go to work
>fulfilling and fun job where I feel I actively contribute towards the progression of society
>Talk to coworkers, get on well, make plans to go out on weekend
>Getting paid a nice wage which I use to buy delicious food and media I enjoy
>Return home and savour my free time before going to bed at a reasonable hour
>Neets will still argue that their empty, vapid existence is better
your doing the whole career thing wrong faggots

[Anonymous No.13350340]

>>13346173
falling for positivity propaganda is peak golem.

[Anonymous No.13350368]

>>13350099
why would you leave out what your job is?

[Anonymous No.13350382]

>>13350099
How do I get autism neet bucks from canada government

[Anonymous No.13351577]

>>13350099
take that faggots im not autistic. just a regular kind of miserable virgin

[Anonymous No.13351761]

>>13350099
Most people will never have a fun fulfilling a job

[Anonymous No.13353454]

>>13343748
The only bad part is the traffic. I walk 5 minutes to work, and it's great.

[Anonymous No.13353490]

>>13343748
Well, it's not a terribly accurate quote for most wageslaves, as most wageslaves add little to no value to the businesses at which they work, and I consider most employment as an insidious form of welfare.
Maybe things were different in the 70s when there were more small businesses, but as a wageslave myself, I can safely say that there are plenty of people employed who, if payment was dependent on services rendered, do not deserve even half of their paycheck.

[Anonymous No.13353534]

>>13349541
>stemfaggot enjoys the taste of toothpaste
Absolutely disgusting.

[Anonymous No.13353542]

Are we being raided? I've never see so much reddit faggotry in a single thread.
Fucking amerishit bootlickers

[Anonymous No.13353588]

>>13343748
dfw told me that the value of a liberal arts education is knowing how to escape but then he kys himself so i dont think it works that well

[Anonymous No.13353614]

>>13347407

[Anonymous No.13353680]

>>13350099
and then you woke up

[Anonymous No.13353695]

>>13353680
ooff, goddamn

[Anonymous No.13353722]

>>13343748
I have a job I enjoy.
We don't all work in a cubicle, you know.

[Anonymous No.13355210]

>>13350030

Show me the path, Anon

[Anonymous No.13355616]

>>13343748
People who think this marks a problem with society are delusional, resentful and most likely aimed towards a shit future for themselves.
If you think you're entitled to an enjoyable life then you're fucking pathetic. Humanity took thousands of years to develop the 1st world society you live in today. In those thousands of years they lived through conditions you probably couldn't even imagine. If being a "wagecuck" doesn't fulfill you enough you should either take control of your life, go live in the fucking woods, or kill yourself because nobody owes you any standard of living whatsoever. The only thing anybody in this world owes you is the abidance of your individual rights. From then on you can figure your fucking shit out yourself and if you need help you can ask for it politely.

[Anonymous No.13355648]

>>13353614
IQ and conscientiousness predicts success in western civilization more than any other factor. The system could hardly be more oriented towards what ought to be considered "normal". People ITT simply resent the hierarchy.

[Anonymous No.13355649]

>>13343833
life is absurd enough though, like the question of whether i want to die is there even without giving away 40 years worth of days to working

[Anonymous No.13355655]

>>13343833
Furthermore, the garden of eden literally symbolizes the amalgamation of culture and nature. Adam tended to the garden because if he didn't it would deteriorate. Human beings will never achieve anything that resembles paradise unless they work for it fairly, and such is why capitalism works.

[Anonymous No.13355667]

>>13355616

Any book recommendation to get on track?

[Anonymous No.13355680]

>>13355667
Not really, it's called having an internal locus of control. If you adopt maximal responsibility and choose to do what it takes to actualize your goals (assuming they're reasonable) you will achieve what you want. Aim as high as possible and you'll make it well out of wherever you're at even if you ultimately miss the mark.

[Anonymous No.13355684]

>>13343795
You're a teenager, right?

[Anonymous No.13355706]

>>13355616
>should
>muh feelings

>nobody owes you any standard of living
yet they give it out. it seems like society actually agrees that no one owes it to you to wagecuck, go live in the fucking woods, or kill themselves
>individual rights
it seems like humans generally agree those include things necessary for survival. and according to scandinavia, internet

[Anonymous No.13355713]

>>13343748
>people arguing over a quote about having to wear a fake, shit-eating grin to work
Ha. Gay.

[Anonymous No.13355846]

>>13349948

[Anonymous No.13355974]

>>13344651
BASED ANON
much hunter gatherer time is spent on recreation,more than sedentary societies.

[Anonymous No.13356043]

>>13344140
Thanks for wasting my life. The cuck faggot is appropriately named.

[Anonymous No.13356460]

>>13343833
So Adam was a wagecuck?

[Anonymous No.13356467]

>>13344709
Abos used this thing called firestick farming (which was basically extremely inefficient slash and burn since theuy just sat back and let the 'crops' self sow), literally turned Australia from a rainforest into a desert within a few thousand years.
"Harmony with nature" my arse.

[Anonymous No.13356517]

>>13343957
Read up on the situationists/Society of the Spectacle. Closer to what you're saying than you think, motivation is the primary difference

[Anonymous No.13356568]

>>13343795
what if I don't want to work

[Anonymous No.13356956]

>>13343794
Amazing. I didn't notice until now how historic antisemites and hedonists were one and the same.

[Anonymous No.13357168]

>>13343748
Half of that quote is a result of a failure of infrastructure and urban planning
The other half is a matter of a work culture that is rapidly in its death-throes that has to come to grips with the fact that perpetual growth is impossible
Modern wageslavery is a failure of the government to regulate the predations of the private sector beyond quid-pro-quo crony capitalism
NEETs who enjoy being NEETs deserve a bullet for thinking they've 'beaten the system' when theyre merely taking advantage of a safety net that could very well no longer exist for them within their lifetimes

[Anonymous No.13357237]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu6_LvpV2zQ

[Anonymous No.13357421]

>>13355648
>more than any other factor.
This is blatantly false. Wealth is still the best predictor of success by far.

[Anonymous No.13357579]

>>13344540

[Anonymous No.13357587]

>>13343748
he is right but it is a useless insight. we still have to do it. we are forced to live this way, we all want to be poets but nobody is allowed to be one.

[Anonymous No.13357592]

>>13349239
that isn't true. something can both generate wealth and be enjoyed. i agree most work is agony but your argument is incorrect.

[Anonymous No.13357607]

>>13343833
>Gen [5:29] he named him Noah, saying, "Out of the ground that the LORD has cursed this one shall bring us relief from our work and from the toil of our hands."
>[3:17] And to the man he said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree about which I commanded you, 'You shall not eat of it,' cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life;
looks like you were to busy working to actually read the bible there wagecuck. kinda puts it all into perspective.

[Anonymous No.13357614]

>>13357607
sorry meant for>>13343880

[Anonymous No.13358371]

>>13343748
By having a job that allows me to work from home.

[Anonymous No.13358375]

>>13343965
The average american is also much wealthier than a medieval peasant, so there's that.

[Anonymous No.13358408]

>>13355655
No it doesn't.