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Which of their books are worth reading?

>> No.13336654

There is no Western book written after WW2 worth reading.

>> No.13336660
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>>13336654

>> No.13336662

>>13336654
>Gets bitch slapped by Tolkien
Nothing personal, hipster.

>> No.13336663

Dennets philosophy of mind stuff and Dawkins biology books. Harris and Hitchens are not worth reading

>> No.13336699

Why is Sam Harries labelled the scholar when he is just a podcast host and Dennet is an actual academic?

>> No.13336757

>>13336650
Denett - Breaking the Spell - good summary on how his phil of mind stuff ties into ideas about the self and compatibilism
Hitchens - Mortality - crash course to fedora anti-theism, but fine writing coming from a man who knows he's about to die
Dawkins - Selfish Gene
Harris - I would honestly recommend his podcast selectively over any of his books. His meditation app is probably one of the best, most comprehensive guides to meditation, especially if you have the kind of temperament that benefits from a philosophical framework and can't just jump into it. It's also very accessible to laymen. The "waking up" book makes a good case for meditation, but is punctuated with atheist quibbles, so it might not be as effective if you're allergic to that. "Lying" is the size of a brochure. Pretty short and sweet.

>> No.13336767

>>13336650
The cringe!! Why are super atheist so cringy?

>> No.13336778

>>13336767
Because you’re an idiot who has succumbed to groupthink. Or more likely, have been born and raised in such an environment.
Do try to grow up.

>> No.13336779

none

>> No.13336792
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>>13336778
I like you.

I like it when you post pics of women. I think we have similar "taste".

What are you reading at the moment.
I'm binging on ohran pamuk atm.
I'm a grill btw

>> No.13336817

>You have to be born and raised religious to find athiests cringe

Yep thats a yikes

>> No.13336934

Hitch 22 is a brilliant book

>> No.13336947

All hacks

>> No.13336949

>>13336792
And how do you find Pamuk?

>> No.13336964

>>13336792
Recently finished Inseparable, Emma Donoghue and Democracy at Work Richard Wolff
Finishing Towards a New Socialism, Paul Cockshott
Still read several others but started on two ecology books
Half-Earth, Edward O. Wilson
And The Mushroom at the End of the World, Anna Lowenhaupt Tsing’s

>> No.13336971

>>13336650
Daniel Dennett gets a lot of references for philosophy of mind

>> No.13336990

Dennet - Consciousness Explained, The Intentional Stance
Dawkins - The Selfish Gene
Hutchins- The Trial of Henry Kissinger

Don’t bother with Harris.

>> No.13337500

>>13336663
Hitchens is the least embarassing of the four desu, his polemic trilogy (No One Left to Lie To, The Missionary Position, The Trial of Kissinger) are highly readable.

>> No.13337587

>>13336650
Do atheists who follow these people ever realize they're just doing the same thing religious people (following some dude you pay to speeches and also forming groops) are doing under the guise of scientific reasoning?

>> No.13337610

>>13337587
Nobody actually “follows” them, anon. They are appreciated for their work or often enough not. They’re nothing new, just brave enough to stand up and challenge the narrative of ignorance that has ruled us for far too long.

>> No.13337615

The only one I know is Dennett. Read Darwin's Dangerous Idea if you wish to be blackpilled about natural selection. The book shows how mindless algorithmic process is sufficient to give rise to a mind, and that we only attribute a creator to the process because we generalize our own intentional stance to causal processes all the time. ("The weather isn't agreeable." "Every complex design must have a designer." "If something otherwise inexplicable happens, an agency must have caused it (a god, a ghost, a spirit)")

>> No.13337617

>>13336654
The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.
That's the only one worth reading.

>> No.13337850

>>13336650
Literally none

>> No.13337856

>>13337610
Except you only need to look at any of the debates these guys have had with fundamentalists to see that it didn't amount to anything but a jack off fest for whatever side you were on because nobody cared about what the other side had to say. If you assume these guys to be correct like the people were doing during these debates then you're a follower.

>> No.13337874

>>13337856
Oh, of course. We should all be silent again now. Be *RESPECTFUL* of religion. Don’t point out fallacies in the world. HEAVENS NO!!
Certainly don’t do or say anything while they try to seize power and enforce their imbecilic nonsense on everyone again.

>> No.13337883

>>13337874
Is this the same Butterfly that was posting a few months ago? I've seen so many fake Butterflies that I'm not sure.

>> No.13337895

>>13337883
you mean years newfag? Regardless, she's right. Mitre tippers are coping seethers.

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>> No.13337912

>>13337895
Not a newfag, a few months ago people were saying it was a different Butterfly.

>> No.13337928

>>13337912
There are probably more than two. If personifying posts and keeping tabs interest you, >>>/reddit/'s great for that.

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>>13337895
> Regardless, she's right.
>""""""""""she""""""""""
butterfag should be sent to a death camp/

>> No.13338259

>>13336654
lol

>> No.13338268

No 1

>> No.13338324

>>13336650
Dawkins pop science stuff is readable and decent, TGD is juvenile. Dennet is a pompous clown. Hitchens a hack. Sam Harris makes podcasts.

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>>13336650

>> No.13338349

>>13337912
It’s me, with the occasional impersonator(s) it’s mostly just me.
Though I have discovered that someone has been using the name on /pol/. I do not visit that page.

>>13338253
You should be sent to a monastery without electricity.

>> No.13338353

>>13338349
LET ME SUCK YOUR PUSSY DRY, BUTTERFLY

>> No.13338701

>>13336663
Hitchens was a compelling writer and story teller. Its just a shame he wasted so much time on atheism and attacking organized religion.

>> No.13338756

>>13336663
This

>> No.13338858

>>13337617
Care to explain why? The bicameral mind has been mostly debunked as far as I've read.

>> No.13338923

>>13336650
From left to right, selfish gene, extended phenotype, End of faith, Consciousness explained, God is not great.

>> No.13338937

>>13336654

Based

>> No.13338957

>>13336660
Based

>> No.13338958

>>13336654
Partly true. I think there are still good books after WW2, but the quality in general of books in 2019 is atrocious, and quite sad. The literary medium has become something quite negative for me

>> No.13338988

>>13336654


All of Cormac McCarthy is worth reading dipshit.