How can we bring back beauty?

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Anonymous Fri Jun 21 10:04:04 2019 No.13336295 [Reply] [Original]

How can we bring back beauty?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 12:12:14 2019 No.13336648 HOW

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 12:14:09 2019 No.13336655 You grew up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 12:14:53 2019 No.13336658 >>13336295 He sounds like a faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 12:38:10 2019 No.13336758 >>13336658 nope, you're a faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 13:13:17 2019 No.13336888 You cant. Capitalism killed it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 13:43:02 2019 No.13337010 File: 211 KB, 800x600, commieblocks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13336888 yeah cuz communism care so much about beauty

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 13:57:35 2019 No.13337085 File: 595 KB, 1285x615, andrei-rublev.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13337010 who's America's Shostakovich?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 14:05:58 2019 No.13337146 >>13337085 >implying that the russian genius exists due communism

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 14:06:57 2019 No.13337155 >>13337146 at least communism didn't kill it where's the russian genius now?

Anonymous Fri Jun 21 14:15:01 2019 No.13337206

>>13337155
tarkovsky had to scape from russia you faggot

where are the genius, hidden in north korea or Cuba?

while sostakovich was in Russia Gustav Holst was in the capitalist UK, composing the Planets' suite. at that time there were geniuses all around the capitalist world, in countries that were capitalists since the very beginning of the industrial revolution.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 15:58:15 2019 No.13337813 >>13336888 Capitalism and poetry actually have a lot in common. (and I don't just say that as a p/acc)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 16:09:14 2019 No.13337853 >>13337085 Shostakovich was not really that great of a composer. Do remember that both Stravinsky and Schoenberg ended up calling America home.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 16:10:49 2019 No.13337857 >>13337853 >Shostakovich was not really that great of a composer. Imagine unironically thinking this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 16:14:00 2019 No.13337868 >>13336295 This nigger gay

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 16:14:27 2019 No.13337872 >>13336888 >>13337010 The real answer is materialism. Beauty is directly related with transcendence and as long as religion is ironically demonized beautiful works of art will be even rarer by the day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 18:10:29 2019 No.13338342 >>13337872 based

Anonymous Fri Jun 21 18:20:50 2019 No.13338380

>>13337010
>>13336295
Back to pol incels. I had a gut feeling OP was an alt-right pol-tard and that the whole "bring back beauty" thing was some sort of white supremacist dog whistle. This incel confirmed my suspicions >>13337010

I know you guys are losers and your socially awkward, and ugly or whatever; that you're probably covered in acne and sitting in front of a monitor with your waifu pillow and shit, but you really should get off the internet and try socializing. Maybe then you wouldn't be a virgin.

>>13337853
Bruh, even meme Shostakovich is based, to say nothing of what left for us Shostakovich connoisseurs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmCnQDUSO4I

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 18:27:08 2019 No.13338408 File: 84 KB, 640x426, lux.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13336888 brutalism is 1000x more preferable than this trite neoliberal bullshit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 18:27:41 2019 No.13338411 >>13338380 what do you hope to gain by posting here?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 18:28:49 2019 No.13338416 >>13337872 Do you mean philosophical materialism? If so, you're wrong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 18:30:42 2019 No.13338422 >>13336295 removing the binary notions of human life from culture and supplanting it with miraculousness. Simone Weil speaks on this in how beauty is a miraculous occurrence, always, and thus we need to praise life as being that

Anonymous Fri Jun 21 18:34:00 2019 No.13338437

>>13338408
So these are considered "luxury" in some flyover state or heavily suburabanized coastal region? It looks like shit. Like one of those low end new developments where they clear out like an entire kilometer of land, remove all the trees, and then don't replant or do any landscaping work or anything.

Anonymous Fri Jun 21 18:35:21 2019 No.13338448

>>13338416
if anything materialism makes room for beauty since its corresponding historicism criticizes the reductive powers of industrial development. Hegel makes a point to say how nature has basically been taken from us by these powers and thus our inherent perceptions of beauty

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 18:36:51 2019 No.13338454 >>13338437 exactly that. American architecture contains this notion that people want to feel like they are permanently at a hotel. a totally cucked sense of luxury pervades

Anonymous Fri Jun 21 18:39:06 2019 No.13338461
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>>13338380
>some sort of white supremacist dog whistle
wtf i can't found any coherent relation. anon, you leftists are sick

>This incel confirmed my suspicions
comunism didn't care a fuck about beauty. they used art as a political tool you dumbfuck. you have come to shit in this thread with cero arguments

>I know you guys are losers and your socially awkward, and ugly or whatever; that you're probably covered in acne and sitting in front of a monitor with your waifu pillow and shit, but you really should get off the internet and try socializing. Maybe then you wouldn't be a virgin.
that's not an argument. I want beauty to comeback because i honestly believe that appreciating beauty is a sure way for self-improvement. As Goethe said: >Every day we should hear at least one little song, read one good poem, see one exquisite picture, and, if possible, speak a few sensible words.

muh supremacism

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 22:26:48 2019 No.13339319 >>13336295 You can, but only if you want it back, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 22:32:25 2019 No.13339341 >>13337085 Andrew HIll

Anonymous Fri Jun 21 22:32:32 2019 No.13339342

>>13338461
lefties are idiots who don't know what they believe (or rather, what they really believe is not left but an anti-white rhetoric hilariously similar to the anti-jew rhetoric they can find no reason to believe), so they wait for the right to believe something so they can not believe it. for example now that their enemies are starting to like socialism, they now all love capitalism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 00:24:26 2019 No.13339668 its never been beautiful retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 00:34:36 2019 No.13339698 >>13337085 Aaron Copland

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 00:35:10 2019 No.13339699 You xant

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 00:47:49 2019 No.13339736 Make something beautiful

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 00:52:38 2019 No.13339749 Great thread, OP. I think to "bring back" beauty you must serve it because beauty is your truth, so to speak.

Anonymous Sat Jun 22 01:38:41 2019 No.13339861

>>13336295
Write something beautiful, fold it into some choice /po/ artwork and bestow it to a lady of your choosing by placing it in her hair as discretely and faintly as possible, the goal being for her not to notice the paper sculpture's landing upon her until you are some distance from her and can also better observe her reactions from finding the strange finch or swan or dachshund, her taciturn investigation, inspecting its details, creases, eventually penmanship or printed type appears and she begins to unfold your treasure, no doubt spotting the bolded or heavily scrawled 'roastie' and 'beef' in your prolix passages and feeling for a moment endeared that some sweet fella sought to woo her with maybe a meat metaphor or a gastronomic limerick and went to the trouble of placing the stationary-hewn avian or canine creations upon her while she was lost in one of her typical female reveries, alternately dreaming of the sexual brigandage awaiting a lot lizard or else reporting in Brandeis University's Quarterly Sexual Ideation Surveys a strong reliance on home invasion or abduction scenarios, your lady most likely falling into this longitudinal category where nearly 83% of surveyed women indicated needing the jarring escapism of a Congolese rural "police" check point or else an inexplicably furious sports team sent to rebalance their libido-kiltered athleticism by splitting your lady in two, meanwhile she's waiting for her phone to update or her Goodreads feed to refresh and with her so predictably distracted you've an ideal opening to place your paper animal or plant wherever on her person you think best accomplishes your desired reveal, keeping in mind that, sure, there will be other girls more compelling than this lady in particular but for now she will do and why not run through this all as an exercise, sliding the ninja star or crab into perhaps the cuff of her stylishly tattered and singed denim pants or maybe even cache the creature onto the briefly accessible synthetic leather soles of your lady's slides, timing your ingress in sync with the brief moment when one of her feet parts from her shoes from her self-stimulatory footsie games long enough for you to make your move and make some lucky lady's day a little more interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 03:44:38 2019 No.13340183 >>13339698 >>13339341 can't compare. lol amerimutts get mad when pointing out their obvious lack of talent

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 03:50:30 2019 No.13340191 File: 186 KB, 1000x731, paris.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13339668 >its never been beautiful retard yes it used to be

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 06:00:52 2019 No.13340542 >>13336295 lol the nigga in OP's pic never got over the fact some words rhyme lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 06:48:46 2019 No.13340716 >>13340542 rappers rhyme words and that doesn't make them poets

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 06:58:02 2019 No.13340739 >>13340716 it does, you're just racist

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 07:00:52 2019 No.13340751 File: 62 KB, 1186x141, Screenshot_20190622-190023_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13340739 And yet

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 07:06:25 2019 No.13340769 File: 1.79 MB, 961x961, machinegunkelly.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13340739 no it doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 07:13:56 2019 No.13340800 >>13340751 That's a rapper >>13340769 Yes, it does :)

Anonymous Sat Jun 22 07:28:11 2019 No.13340849

>>13340800
sorry but this isn't poetry

>Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, >Nigga
>I'm 200% nigga
>Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, >Nigga
>Why do police hate niggas?
>Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, >Nigga
>They hate us cause our dicks is bigga
>Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, >Nigga
>Why you call yourself a nigga?
>Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, >Nigga
>Cause im a mother fucking nigga!
>Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, >Nigga
>Why you drink so much beer?
>Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, >Nigga
>I dont drink beer, I drink malt liquor

Anonymous Sat Jun 22 07:29:10 2019 No.13340852
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>>13336295
Establish and foster a relationship with beauty. Once you have woven it into the fabric of your life expand that relationship. This will be challenging because it's not that easy to figure you what even is beautiful. Once you have that relationship, all things of this world will make room for you to spread this beauty forward. Creation, rhytm and geometry are that hallmark of divine system that will show others direction towards kingdom of God. Beauty is everything

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 07:35:36 2019 No.13340869 >>13339861 I am guessing you were that creepy one at school. Please have sex Ps people don't get laid because of origami and calligraph. Sticking things in strangers hair might not be the best way to get laid

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 07:39:42 2019 No.13340883 >>13338380 can you screech any harder

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 07:40:22 2019 No.13340887 >>13340852 thanks, anon. This is a beautiful response

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 07:53:19 2019 No.13340908 >>13340191 People were already complaining at that time that things had gone to shit thanks to bourgeois mediocrity and decadence. But muh suits, neoclassical architecture, and academic painting

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 07:54:27 2019 No.13340910 >>13340542 >has not read Crise de vers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 07:58:46 2019 No.13340912 >>13340191 this is ugly and boring

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 08:01:46 2019 No.13340918 >>13338408 Is this postmodernism? Looks disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 08:05:29 2019 No.13340924 >>13340908 i know. The beauty of that age was decadence from some more beautiful and aristocratic previous times. But compared with us they were like greek gods.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 08:05:56 2019 No.13340926 >>13338380 This is only a parody, r-right /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 08:11:38 2019 No.13340939 File: 31 KB, 602x401, whale.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13340912 yeah and this is joyful and original

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 09:28:09 2019 No.13341137 >>13338380 is virgin-shaming praxis?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 09:30:52 2019 No.13341146 >>13337155 >where's the russian genius now? Decades of communism decimated the culture, and it has yet to recover. You see capitalist genius all the time in the West

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 09:40:38 2019 No.13341175 >>13341146 >You see capitalist genius all the time in the West where? you mean all the jeff bezos type "geniuses" that rape the common worker of their dignity?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 09:43:35 2019 No.13341178 >>13336888 You can't kill beauty, it's inherent in everything. You are just small minded and can't see it. You have to see things from a different point of view. There is beauty in ugliness, there is beauty in death, in decay etc

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 09:45:13 2019 No.13341184 >>13341178 when people talk about "beauty" what they really mean is surface layer physical beauty that has essentially disappeared from most aspects of modern life due to streamlining and lack of ornamentation

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 09:46:15 2019 No.13341187 >>13338380 The jew screams in pain as (s)he strikes you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 09:50:43 2019 No.13341203 >>13340869 Women love secret notes and learning they have driven a man mad with desire. Basic stuff, my dude.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 09:53:52 2019 No.13341220 File: 47 KB, 415x752, 1560407924019.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13336888

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 10:16:29 2019 No.13341294 >>13338461 >wtf i can't found any coherent relation. anon, you leftists are sick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aestheticization_of_politics

Anonymous Sat Jun 22 10:23:15 2019 No.13341318

>>13341294
and an excerpt from a Vox article

So what am I talking about when I talk about the “aesthetic” appeal of right-wing movements? German culture critic Walter Benjamin, in his in 1936 essay “The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction,” writes that right-wing movements, which reach their zenith in fascism, represent “the introduction of aesthetics into political life.” While Benjamin is writing about fascism specifically here, his argument encompasses reactionary and right-wing movements more broadly.

While left-wing movements, he writes, work by advocating for “affecting the property structure” of capitalism, right-wing movements offer the masses a chance to “express themselves” while keeping the social order largely intact.

The ideal of traditionalist right-wing movements — which include, but are not limited to, fascist movements — is a kind of transformation of a person’s individual life into a mythic story. The narrative of return, the primordial “going back” that defines, say, “make America Great Again” (or “make Catholicism weird again”), is fundamentally an aesthetic one: galvanizing the human desire to live a meaningful story. The imagined past is a place of structure, of significance.

We find this taken to extremes in, for example, explicitly fascist movements, which very much operate on this principle. Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, in his 1932 manifesto on fascism, makes his movement sound almost like a religion — a way for ordinary people to conceive of themselves as belonging to a world of mythic heroes. “Fascism,” he writes, “respects the God of ascetics, saints, and heroes, and it also respects God as conceived by the ingenuous and primitive heart of the people, the God to whom their prayers are raised.” Aestheticism, in this context, is the process by which individual political grievances are elevated to the level of myth.

Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 Sat Jun 22 11:25:11 2019 No.13341531

>>13341318
Fascism is a result of romanticism and Wagnerianism. Coincidentally this is why fascists make the best poets and filmmakers: they have a more intuitive understanding of what constitutes beauty than the people who think that form is less important than content

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 11:28:14 2019 No.13341539 >>13337853 >Shostakovich was not really that great of a composer. This is your brain on burgers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 11:30:45 2019 No.13341554 >>13341318 Ok so leftism for what i see has declared the war to beauty. is good for knowing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 11:44:56 2019 No.13341606 >>13337206 >tarkovsky had to scape from russia you faggot Yeah that's the point retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 11:53:58 2019 No.13341664 >>13341606 obviously; communism hates beauty as long as it doesn't represent their deformed overview of what is life. Beauty has to be sacred, above politics and materialist issues, and communism hates the sacred.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 11:56:06 2019 No.13341673 >>13337085 >who's America's kitschy Soviet agitprop?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:04:28 2019 No.13341711 >>13341664 >and communism hates the sacred Russians didn't stop to be Russians, even during USSR.

Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:11:27 2019 No.13341733
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>>13341711
that's why nabokov was american and he still apreciatted beauty. Meanwhile, in the soviets if you were a painter you had to paint realist socialist garbage, fucking up the sublime idea of beauty and the russian genius in a political corset

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:14:51 2019 No.13341755 File: 232 KB, 699x699, norman-rockwell-thanksgiving.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13341673 Unironically Norman Rockwell and Pollock

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:15:20 2019 No.13341756 >>13337085 Rachmaninoff

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:41:36 2019 No.13341871 >>13336888 If that was true, it would have also died in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:46:23 2019 No.13341905 >>13341871 It did die in Japan. There has been no good novelist that was born after ww2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:47:16 2019 No.13341911 >>13341905 It didn't, that was my point. They still care about aesthetics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:50:58 2019 No.13341930 >>13341673 Your mother is a kitschy Soviet agitprop, not Shostakovich

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:51:52 2019 No.13341936 >>13341911 no they do not everyone is a bugman wageslave there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:53:29 2019 No.13341947 >>13341936 Anime and video games say otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:55:58 2019 No.13341967 >>13341947 >anime and video games proving the point that it died in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 12:57:22 2019 No.13341974 File: 346 KB, 1920x1080, Coppelion - 01v2 (BD 10-bit 1920x1080 x264 FLAC)[8A579A0C].mkv_snapshot_00.08_[2015.03.30_17.02.04].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13341967 How? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F4SNvhaVIc

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 13:07:43 2019 No.13342018 >>13341755 this is disgusting. america could be erased from earth and nobody would give a fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 13:30:09 2019 No.13342154 >>13338380 Why are you so threatened by beauty?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 13:31:20 2019 No.13342157 >>13338380 Why is the left so obsessed with everyone needing to have recreational sex all the time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 13:33:06 2019 No.13342166 >>13341974 Fuck off dumb anime poster

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 13:36:32 2019 No.13342186 >>13342166 No, you fuck off. Western culture has degenerated to the point where people now recoil from beauty because they think it's ugliness. Japan is not like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 13:54:20 2019 No.13342280 >>13342186 yeah is uglyness and degeneration. those childish brights, those colours, it's soulless art

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 13:56:19 2019 No.13342291 >>13342280 You are projecting. It's the West that's soulless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 14:05:02 2019 No.13342342 File: 233 KB, 800x1249, hirosige.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13342291 >It's the West that's soulless. you're right, but japan isn't far

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 14:06:51 2019 No.13342356 >>13342342 It's still far away from descending to our level.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 14:10:47 2019 No.13342379 >>13342186 Anime is westernized wtf.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 14:11:32 2019 No.13342385 >>13342379 No it isn't. It's completely different from Western animation and Westerners are always complaining about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 14:20:05 2019 No.13342432 File: 624 KB, 1080x2160, Rupi-Kaur-Feet-4206970.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13342186

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 14:22:06 2019 No.13342444 >>13342432 What is your point?

Anonymous Sat Jun 22 14:28:25 2019 No.13342481

>>13336295
We can't. The vulgar sensibilities of the masses dictate predominant art now. You can still find beauty if you go looking for it, but it no longer defines the paradigm. So long as the arts primarily remain industries that profit from and encourage indiscriminant consumerism, this will be the case.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 14:31:39 2019 No.13342498 >>13337085 It's hard to think of anyone because of the way American censorship operates differently from the Soviet model.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 14:33:26 2019 No.13342508 >>13340939 Not him, but >i'm eating solid shit! if you don't like solid shit, then you drink diarrhea!

Anonymous Sat Jun 22 14:36:58 2019 No.13342531

DESTROY INTERNET AND AI
END RACISM FOR BLACK WOMEN
RESPECT AUTISTIC MEN
PIKE ALL CHRISTIANS
World is 100% happier. World is not enough for CHINESE superiority. China to space. Fight holy wars, turn American and Latin blacks against the Chinese and make a big space war. Oh yeah

Anonymous Sat Jun 22 14:55:23 2019 No.13342636
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>>13342508
i know it wasn't a solid argument, but you can't deny that in the XIX century life and art used to be more beautiful than in our current time. I'm not advocating for that specific age being the most beautiful ever

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 17:16:05 2019 No.13343319 >>13341531 >Coincidentally this is why fascists make the best poets and filmmakers name ten (10)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 17:18:51 2019 No.13343336 >>13342444 Hey cutie

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 17:20:55 2019 No.13343349 File: 226 KB, 730x1095, beautiful_valeria_by_yychanson.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13342636 you're just not looking at the right places. there's more "conventionally" beautiful art being produced than ever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 17:22:30 2019 No.13343357 >>13343336 So no point, then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 22 23:56:20 2019 No.13345309 >>13340849 It is

Anonymous Sun Jun 23 00:02:12 2019 No.13345335

>>13336295
Beauty never left. They don't put ugly people on TV, movies, as pop stars, etc. They don't photoshop people to look ugly. Everything is criticised if it looks ugly or off. You mean 'how can we bring back beauty in a way I can use as political currency'.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 00:03:38 2019 No.13345343 >>13342636 The grass isn't always greener on the other side, it's greener where you water it :)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 00:13:46 2019 No.13345372 >>13343349 >>13345335 But that is what is devaluing it. Nothing is that impactful anymore

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 00:21:14 2019 No.13345394 >>13341531 Fascist are closeted utilitarians when it comes to aesthetics. The best they could was vampirizing the most sympathetic artists of their time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 00:34:02 2019 No.13345430 >>13343319 Film Stanley Kubrick Zack Snyder James Cameron Sam Peckinpah John Milius Poets Ovid Homer Yeats Ezra Pound David Myatt

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 03:30:37 2019 No.13345925 >>13337010 >everyone who criticizes capitalism is a stalinist why are pro capitalists (you're not an actual capitalist unless you own some means of production, in reality you're just a chump supporting his own slavery) so braindead?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 03:36:51 2019 No.13345948 >>13345430 >Poets >Homer lul

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 03:37:48 2019 No.13345950 >>13345925 So just because I don't own a factory I'm not a capitalist. Shut up dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 03:37:53 2019 No.13345951 >>13342186 what a deluded weeaboo. HONORABU NIHON ABLOOBLOOBLO

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 03:39:16 2019 No.13345956 File: 1.19 MB, 1000x664, suburbia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13337010 BEAUTIFUL CAPITALISM.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 03:43:03 2019 No.13345970 >>13345948 embarassing post

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 03:43:54 2019 No.13345976 >>13345335 yeah. Architecture is a mess. Getting fat is more common than ever. People wear horrible clothes. Art is not beautiful anymore. They are pushing for the fat acceptance.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 03:45:01 2019 No.13345982 >>13345343 And how can we water it . That's my question.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 03:47:51 2019 No.13345990 >>13345982 Sprinklers.

Anonymous Sun Jun 23 03:58:04 2019 No.13346030
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>>13343349
>a photograph of a 7/10 in nature
>hurr durr this is art
Yikes.
Anyone can take a picture of a fucking young girl sitting on a rock. If you want to post good modern art at least post something impressive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 03:58:57 2019 No.13346032 >>13336295 beauty isn't created but discovered.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 04:00:38 2019 No.13346039 >>13346032 Gay and wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 04:00:46 2019 No.13346040 >>13346030 nice mallgoth album cover, homo

Anonymous Sun Jun 23 04:03:12 2019 No.13346045

>>13346040
A lot of album covers are legitimate art. Much moreso than "hurr I took a picture of my niece sitting in my backyard". Photography is on the fringe of whether it's art or not. Any old picture isn't art. If you've done nothing to adjust the scene or the composition then it's not art. For it to be art there has to be effort involved. Not just "hey that looks nice", *snap*.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 04:49:41 2019 No.13346138 File: 234 KB, 808x1024, garbage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13346045 norman rockwell is art? Definitely not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 05:04:16 2019 No.13346162 >>13346045 >composition is art >effort is art

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 05:05:00 2019 No.13346165 >>13336295 I'm here, baby. What you need?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 05:05:19 2019 No.13346168 >>13346030 The fact that 'anyone can do it' doesn't disqualify it from being art you autist

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 05:08:06 2019 No.13346175 >>13345948 god homer was a poet >>13345430 Ovid fascist? homer fascist? what do you smoke?

Anonymous Sun Jun 23 05:08:46 2019 No.13346178

>>13336295
Easy. Start a war of words with Bin Laden's Son. Tell him we're on the same side. Embrace the Perennialist doctrines. Raise the eire of state officials. Become warrior poets. Train daily for a symbolic war by living artfully. Write to bring about the glory of the end times. Have fun with it.

Anonymous Sun Jun 23 05:13:27 2019 No.13346185

>>13345976
Architecture is garbage in general. Working out is more common than ever. Fashion is extremely popular and, well, fashionable. 'Fat acceptance' exactly proves my point that mainstream beauty standards exclude being fat.

The beauty in art, again, is transposed to middle-class culture like TV and film, etc. That's because beauty is completely expendable when it comes to art. If you want beauty, watch boring trash. If you want art, challenge yourself. This guy had a better argument:

>>13345372

There's no point believing life was beautiful 200 years ago and that today life is not beautiful because there is such an emphasis on beauty.

Anonymous Sun Jun 23 05:47:37 2019 No.13346274
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>>13346185
compare the proportions, the harmony of this house with the american trashy chalets or with the soviet commie blocks.

Compare the emphasis our ancestors put in how they dressed, to now.

Compare nicky minaj with Händel. Compare Brumel with the Kardashians.

The dandy phenomena was a reaction against a world that was losing its beauty, as they were Mallarmé, l'art pour l'art, Stefan George, the english aestheticism...

Is something you can't deny.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 23 07:06:27 2019 No.13346444 >>13343319 Leni Riefenstahl D. W. Griffith John Ford Akira Kurosawa Christopher Nolan Ezra Pound W.B. Yeats T.S. Eliot Rudyard Kipling William Shakespeare

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