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Last thread is about to die.

"Routine, repetition, tedium, monotony, ephemeracy, inconsequence, abstraction, disorder, boredom, angst, ennui — these are the true hero's enemies, and make no mistake, they are fearsome indeed. For they are real."

Previous thread:
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>> No.13326005
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>>13325947
ATTENTION BurgerPunks!
I am maintaining a GitHub page for our self published BurgerPunk book / project (to counter vandalism by mass replacement or deletion like was observed in the google doc):
https://burgerpunk.github.io/
If anyone wants to help add / edit layers in the document (or get added as a contributor) please open a pull request:
https://github.com/burgerpunk/burgerpunk.github.io

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Posting some charts anons have put together

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>> No.13326058

If nobody else does, I might put together a poll to get a /lit/-approved burgerpunk reading list figured out

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>>13326038
>rainbow six
>burgerpunk

>> No.13326111

>>13326059
Didn't say I agreed with the charts, but I don't have the wherewithal to put one of my own together at the moment and the thread needed at least some content

>> No.13326134

>>13325947
fuck off euros

>> No.13326208
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>>13326134
What did he mean by this

>> No.13326235

>>13326059
Is the marketization of high intensity covert operations and special forces groups burgerpunk? Surely it says something about our culture, that we have created an entire fictional niche, based on heavily watered down and dramatic representations of our most clandestine branches.

>> No.13326252

>>13326235
That's just operatorcore
Burgerpunk is more about the mundane in a setting so corporatized as to appear satirical while remaining somewhat believable.

>> No.13326439

>>13325947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lGepe8qjpM

>> No.13326451

>>13326439
Can we get this but set to some eurobeat

>> No.13326472

What are the euro equivalents? Someone said tescoepunk for brits, krautpunk?

>> No.13326491

For it is only the union of that which we cannot define with that of our reality that truly creates the element so compelling as to devour the platonic ideal of calories. Thus, in this construct, the burger is the pure ideological superior, without which, not one manifestation of the world could orient itself.

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>>13326491

>> No.13326535

>>13326235
Drone operators almost certainly embody a fast food approach to warfare: menus, orders, delivery, high volume, ridiculous and opaque management, utter high-mindedness, moral certainty, faith. They're all there.

>> No.13326581

The burgerpunk continues.

https://newatlas.com/dominos-self-driving-nuro-delivery-houston/60178/

>> No.13326605

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDnjiNCtFk4
is this burgerpunk?

>> No.13326775

Jonathan ColonelSanders "J.C." Reilly sat at his desk, the bank of low refresh rate monitors bathing his doughy features in soft hues of colored light.
J.C. was a dronewatch attendant, and he was damn good at his job. Beady eyes flicked back and forth between the large array of twenty four monitors, each subdivided into four viewing areas. It was on these screens that J.C kept a ten-hours-a-day, six-days-a-week, first-person-view on the daily travels of a fleet of ninety six McCorporation delivery SkyDrones; the second largest fleet under the supervision of a single dronewatcher in McCorporation history.
J.C.'s fleet made nationwide deliveries of every product the Corporation dealt in; food, garments, electronics, narcotics, and sex toys being the most common products shipped under his purview.
While the drones themselves were more than smart enough to pick up and deliver the ordered goods without any kind of supervision, dronewatchers had been instated to add a human element to the service-- it was found that when a customer's McSoylent or McJumpsuit or McOnahole delivery was delayed by the drone having to circumnavigate pollution clouds exceeding maximum toxicity thresholds or the lines of some radical's latest attempt to broadcast a pirate sci-fi network using a bank of stratospheric kites as a distributed antenna, the customer was more likely to make another purchase sooner given the ability to verbally and visually berate a human being watching from the other side of the drone's sensor array.
J.C. had been flagged on his post-education McAptitude test for having a combination of Aspergers and apathy that made him the perfect candidate for the dronewatch program; even when first starting out, he was simultaneously able to keep an attentive eye on upwards of three dozen drone feeds while experiencing zero emotional trauma from the frothy screams of ten or more rotund McCitizens at once.
Between his natural inclination to the line of work, and the ability to take snapshots of any drone's feed, J.C. not only enjoyed his job, but was amassing a sizable collection of aerial landscape photography and high-resolution shots of murders in progress for his blog.

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I found a gem of a post I saved, and it's the Black Mirror of burgerpunk world.

>>13326208
Now that is burgerpunk kino.

>>13326520
>Freakonomics
The nutrient-free, high-calorie junk food of economics.

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today i will remind them

>> No.13326985

>>13326038
America by Baudrillard is a silent monster, nearly 10/10. Good list.

>> No.13327199

>>13326439
>>13326451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM5W7Xn7FiA

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uh

>> No.13327228

>>13327220
More like this?

>> No.13327235

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4dTob8avQ

>> No.13327431
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Can someone repost that picture with Kristen Stewart dressed in white

>> No.13327648

>>13326044
>>13326052
Rant is still better for burgerpunk than Fight Club.
Also, Hinterland and Twilight of the Elites.

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>>13326783
>tfw you will get to witness the age of VR and sexbots
In my cyberpunk fantasies i hope there spawns a black market of modifications for sexbots or some shit like that
Rig it however you want it to be

>> No.13327699

Are any of you writing a bugerpunk novel?

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>>13327228
uk ok

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>>13327700

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>>13327705

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there is the fascinating world of the McRipoffs also

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>>13327721

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>>13327728
this one tho

>> No.13327746

Have people in these burgerpunk threads read/discussed Snow Crash?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5O7_rNXM8A#t=1m45s

"There's only four things we do better than anyone else

music
movies
microcode (software)
high-speed pizza delivery"

"Just a single principle: the Deliverator stands tall, your pie in thirty minutes or you can have it free, shoot the driver, take his car, file a class-action suit. The Deliverator has been working this job for six months, a rich and lengthy tenure by his standards, and has never delivered a pizza in more than twenty-one minutes."

"Pizza delivery is a major industry. A managed industry. People went to CosaNostra Pizza University four years just to learn it. Came in its doors unable to write an English sentence, from Abkhazia, Rwanda, Guanajuato, South Jersey, and came out knowing more about pizza than a Bedouin knows about sand. And they had studied this problem. Graphed the frequency of doorway delivery-time disputes. Wired the early Deliverators to record, then analyze, the debating tactics, the voice-stress histograms, the distinctive grammatical structures employed by white middle-class Type A Burbclave occupants who against all logic had decided that this was the place to take their personal Custerian stand against all that was stale and deadening in their lives: they were going to lie, or delude themselves, about the time of their phone call and get themselves a free pizza; no, they deserved a free pizza along with their life, liberty, and pursuit of whatever, it was fucking inalienable. ...

The analysts at CosaNostra Pizza University concluded that it was just human nature and you couldn't fix it, and so they went for a quick cheap technical fix: smart boxes. The pizza box is a plastic carapace now, corrugated for stiffness, a little LED readout glowing on the side, telling the Deliverator how many trade imbalance producing minutes have ticked away since the fateful phone call. There are chips and stuff in there. The pizzas rest, a short stack of them, in slots behind the Deliverator's head. Each pizza glides into a slot like a circuit board into a computer, clicks into place as the smart box interfaces with the onboard system of the Deliverator's car. The address of the caller has already been inferred from his phone number and poured into the smart box's builtin RAM. From there it is communicated to the car, which computes and projects the optimal route on a heads-up display, a glowing colored map traced out against the windshield so that the Deliverator does not even have to glance down."

>> No.13327764

Isn't burgerpunk just cyberpunk

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https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_6573474?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL1PNvoKbaQp7_Rqz3MjRs1g6C0N_lQEMVp6ruN70VmShl0HFkgyFW9MPH7rSvPnI5xz7GXdNAgyM6p5jgKJeauhm6-KZQbUsm-jx8OPpK-vQgNX9rIg46ss6ZyisNP-FWlCEb9aFRhWB6BDPbedpPJG9yBLs3PERO4W38FHw2nB

>> No.13327772

>>13327746
Snow Crash is pretty comfy and I'd definitely recommend it to anyone wanting an easy fun read.
It feels like the evolution of burgerpunk into cyberpunk, rather than "standard" cyberpunk fare; that is, even as the forefather of a genre that's been riffing for years off of the foundation it laid, it still feels unique in its sensibilities.
also Uncle Enzo is the best

>> No.13327777

>>13326038
Pretty pathetic Cheever isn’t on there. Literally considered the Chekhov of the Suburbs

>> No.13327781

>>13327764
No, but cyberpunk is a possible outcome of burgerpunk.
Burgerpunk is focused on the comfy nostalgia held towards things that we shouldn't really be nostalgic towards or fond of, like mass advertising, rampant consumerism, and blind brand loyalty.
Sort of a product of the jump into the interconnected age of television and early internet.

>> No.13327795

>>13327746
>bit more
If the thirty-minute deadline expires, news of the disaster is flashed to CosaNostra Pizza Headquarters and relayed from there to Uncle Enzo himself—the Sicilian Colonel Sanders, the Andy Griffith of Bensonhurst, the straight razor-swinging figment of many a Deliverator's nightmares, the Capo and prime figurehead of CosaNostra Pizza, Incorporated—who will be on the phone to the customer within five minutes, apologizing profusely. The next day, Uncle Enzo will land on the customer's yard in a jet helicopter and apologize some more and give him a free trip to Italy—all he has to do is sign a bunch of releases that make him a public figure and spokesperson for CosaNostra Pizza and basically end his private life as he knows it. He will come away from the whole thing feeling that, somehow, he owes the Mafia a favor.

The Deliverator does not know for sure what happens to the driver in such cases, but he has heard some rumors.

>>13327772
Yeah it's great, and I agree. I listened to it at work via that audiobook.

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The holy, life-giving bypass

>> No.13327849

>>13327699
That's the whole point of these threads, to write such a novel.

Anyone have graphic design chops here? Pitch for cover concept: One of those rest stop scenes. Bottom 2/3 gastations and fast food joints, everything paved, top 1/3 sky, with power lines and signs in the foreground. Drawn-over with simple shapes (lines, curves, and polygons) in solid colors. The oft-used "vaporwave" look (cf. the poster for the film "Drive"). But with the neon blue-magenta color scheme replaced with a yellow-red gradient (mustard and ketchup and the spectrum in-between) Power lines instead of palm trees. Finally, (although this might be a little too precious), a setting sun in the background replaced with a hamburger viewed from the top with sesame seeds, and cheese corners for whatever the stylized rays/flares are called in drawings of the sun. Aforementioned gradient for the sky.

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>>13327816
Anyone else have more of these stories, where a person's greatest moments in life are based on a corporate outcome or event, fast-food related in particular?

https://indianexpress.com/article/trending/trending-in-india/tea-seller-happiest-day-humans-of-bombay-post-mumbai-5152904/

>> No.13327880

>>13327699
>Are any of you writing a bugerpunk novel?

If anyone does, I sincerely hope they read some of the pomo lit of the '80s and '90s first, after reading DFW's essay E Unibus Pluram, particularly the ending where he savages that one guy for being a derivative mess.

The saddest outcome of these efforts would be if they are derivative from ignorance of their predecessors.

>> No.13327889

>>13327795
This is significantly better writing than I thought Snow Crash had, my impression from /lit/ shitposts was that it was a barely-more-palatable Ready Player One. Will probably read it at some point now.

>> No.13327940

>>13327889
It's unironically one of my favorite SF novels. You just have to keep in mind that most things that were popular before "nerd culture" swept into normiedom were popular because of their quality, not because of their ability to be regurgitated as mass-market memery.

>> No.13327944

>>13327889
Stephenson is a legitimately good writer, he's just an incorrigible shitposter. The main flaws in SC are errors of tonal disconnect where you get the feeling that he just didn't give enough of a shit. Probably because cyberpunk in pop culture had already disintegrated into self-parody.

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>Films that Inspire

"Akeem encounters Lisa McDowell, who possesses all the qualities he is looking for, and upon his insistence he and Semmi get entry-level jobs working at the local fast food restaurant called McDowell's—a McDonald's ripoff—owned by widower Cleo McDowell, Lisa's father."

>ComingtoAmerica1988MoviePoster.jpg

>> No.13328385

>>13327880
Got a list of some 80s and 90s pomo?

>> No.13328577
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Step into the church, come confess your thought-crimes!

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Work keeping you down? Take a one-day vacation in one of our five-star premier Playhouses!

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We must continue the story.

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Who's the retard that wrote Layer 05: The McCar and other Wrappers? They fucked up how Asian accents work.

>> No.13330263

Bump

>> No.13330267

>>13326208
wow that picture is like an edward hopper painting

>> No.13330381

>>13329355
Flied lice, anon

>> No.13330425

>>13330381
It's fried rice you plick. L's become R's, not the other way around

>> No.13330431

>>13330425
>fried rice
fry rye*

>> No.13330433

>>13326235
have you read the book?

>> No.13330498

>>13326038
this is dumb as shit.
all of this is just 'books with something to say about late capitalist america', aka almost any book published in the last 40 years: boring.

surely to make 'burgerpunk' interesting it needs to somehow capture the particular kind of greasiness associated with fast food. not just consumption, but anhedonic consumption to self-destructive excess, not in a sexy countercultural way (e.g. heroine) but in an act of disgusting gluttonous submission. alternatively, the flipside of that which would mean a specific aesthetic associated with working in fast food, with all its particular kind of glossy corporate sheen contrasting sharply with the sheer unpleasentness of it - burning your arm on a chip fat fryer while a cgi corporate render plays on loop in your peripheral vision. not this boring 'hurr durr guess it has something to say about america' crap.

i would suggest this as a preliminary reading list:
fiction: 'money' by martin amis and 'a confederacy of dunces' by john kennedy toole. these are the two poles of the burgerpunk aesthetic: the working class production of burgers, as seen in 'a confederacy of dunces' with ignatius as a hot dog seller etc., and the completely pleasureless compulsive consumption of them, including by the wealthy, as seen in the obese and all consuming protagonist of amis's novel.

for non-fiction the only thing i can think of is mark fisher's capitalist realism but mostly just the bits where he complains about his students eating takeout in class.

>> No.13330514

>>13326044
this list is better though i still think we can do better at finding texts that capture the particular relationship between slick corporate presentation and deep physcial unpleasantness that would seem to be at the part of any aestheticisation of fast food.

>> No.13330653

>>13328577
This is in Australia

>> No.13330692

>>13330425
Way to out yourself as underaged, anon

>> No.13331561

>>13326910
Thank you, based Momus poster.

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>>13326038

>Doesn't include the quintessential masterpiece of burgerpunk

>> No.13331928

I see a lot of anons complaining about charts and then not making their own in this thread

>> No.13331939

>>13331798
The one thing this movie got wrong was all the white people.

>> No.13332303
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Are burgerpunk contributors in the aggregate against traditional linear narratives?

>> No.13332405

>>13326005
>tripfag injects himself into a topic that he clearly didn't understand to begin with and allows a group of other hangers-on to do the same
Fucking kill yourself.

>> No.13332432

>>13326038
Add Hillbilly Elegy.

>>13326044
Why the fuck is Ready Player One on here? Burgerpunk isn't Sci-Fi, it's literally 1990s optimism mired in the depersonalizing effects of the corporate multinationalism that was going on after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It ended with the financial crisis revealing that the whole system was a lot less robust than people had supposed. Anyone who tries to contort it into being about dystopia or faggy postmodern analyses of capitalism didn't understand it.

>> No.13332442

>>13326208
Already a classic image. The bright colors say burgerpunk, but it reminds me more of Japan (which granted at this point wasn't all that disconnected from the International Burger).

>> No.13332453

>>13326252
Eh, I could see police militarism fitting in there, though, if only because it was a point of contention among the counterculture during the period with things like Waco and Ruby Ridge. Private armies became an issue post-9/11, which I would contend is still in the period.

>> No.13332463

>>13326775
>>13326783
You're both bad at this and don't get it.

>> No.13332466
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Irrefutably burgerpunk

>> No.13332471

>>13327781
Probably the first good post I've seen in the whole thread.

>> No.13332488

>>13330498
You also don't get it.

>> No.13332501

related

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/09/health/obesity-china-coke.html

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>>13332453

PMCs, man.

These guys aren't Mallcops.

Corporations employ their own security guards that may resemble PMCs.

>> No.13332513

>>13325947
>> 13332089

Is this burgerpunk?

>> No.13332517

>>13331798
We mentioned lots of TV shows and films but they weren't books so didn't end up being included. Most of these charts look like they were done by retarded critical theorists who don't understand the sincere chauvinism behind the genre - an actual belief that Americanism was good, with only a slight suggestion at the problems it faced. The whole appeal is that you get drawn back to a time when we had reached the End of History, with America on top. Being aware of what brought it down is important context (Jihad versus McWorld), but Burgerpunk itself IS NOT DYSTOPIAN because it fundamentally involves going back to the innocent ignorance that burgers viewed the world through prior to 9/11 and the financial crisis. The literature itself shouldn't see the fall coming (because few people actually did), even if the reader (with the benefit of hindsight) does.

>> No.13332519

>>13332513
>>13332089

>> No.13332527

>>13332506
No I know what PMCs are, I'm just saying it could fit just due to being considered somewhat normal at the time.

>> No.13332532

>>13332519
Yeah you get it.

>> No.13332642

>>13326005
>cia covertly ruins your burgerpunk
it literally doesn't get more burgerpunk than that

>> No.13332651

>>13332642
Based.

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>>13327684
The burgerpunk twist: women are reduced to the level of sexbots. Pic extremely related. If I saw that ten years ago, I'd have thought that Realdolls hit a hard barrier when trying to climb out of the uncanny valley.

>>13326910
Momus? Isn't that some artsy European band? I recall Grant Morrison namedropping them once.

>>13327816
>bypass surgery as a sacrament, symbolizing Jesus' resurrection

>>13327871
Jesus Christ.

>> No.13332946

>>13327816
>>13332857
Neither of you get it.

>>13332466
Questionable. Definitely captures Americanism quite well, but it does so very cynically, which wasn't the point of the original threads.

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>>13332857
>The burgerpunk twist: women are reduced to the level of sexbots.

The female gender divides into: women, unwomen, and awomen.

>>13332857
>Momus?

MOMUS is the pseudonym of musician, artist and writer Nick Currie, born in 1960 in Paisley, Scotland. He has released thirty albums of pop music on independent labels including 4AD, Creation and Cherry Red. He’s written journalism for Wired, The New York Times, and a variety of art publications including Frieze, Art in America and Spike. His other novels include The Book of Jokes (2009, Dalkey Archive Press), The Book of Scotlands (2009, Sternberg) and The Book of Japans (2011, Sternberg).

>> No.13332981

>>13332946
Do you see burgerpunk as being expressed more incidentally then, and without an overt comment on its subject's merit?

>> No.13332998

Reminder your faggot r/latestagecapitialism tripe is not BURGERPUNK tm

>> No.13333002

>>13325947
"To me, the most beautiful thing in the world is an abandoned parking lot and a soiled sofa on the edge… with a street lamp off to the side. America seems like a series of abandoned parking lots, streetlights and abandoned sofas."
— Harmony Korine

>> No.13333016

>>13332998
Yes it is. Burgerpunk is inherently reactionary to modern consumer capitalism and its cultural effects.

>> No.13333023

>>13332857
>The burgerpunk twist: women are reduced to the level of sexbots.
For sexbots to work women need to have power over men, and who better to lead the burgerpunk future than women, whom the economy was always based upon. As the primary consumers they will rise up to take their rightful place as the rulers of the consumerist culture. Every female will become a business that works for the attention of the male market, printing their bodies and selling it in the form of dolls, streams, and pornography. Unregistered sexbots will be illegal, pirating will be akin to rape.

That's the real burgerpunk future.

>> No.13333036

>>13332946
Guys, guys, we did it. Burgerpunk already has gatekeepers!

>> No.13333053

>>13332981
That, and it also ended in 2011 at the latest. Anything after that is just clown world. See, anyone who is interested in Americanism will inevitably come ACROSS critiques, but the whole Burgerpunk meme is basically crossposting from Europeans making fun of Americans on /pol/ with pic related, and Americans telling Europeans that they have no idea what Americanism is. It's basically like vaporwave - anyone who understands what the genres are will understand why the world didn't turn out like the genres had hoped (i.e. they will recognize why we don't live in a world where McDonalds can do business everywhere and anywhere, and why it wouldn't necessarily be desirable if they could), but at the same time, the whole appeal of the genre is being drawn back into a time before those critiques mattered - like reading novels about pirates or old westerns. Obviously you'll always get retards who swarm to those genres to pretend their criticisms of the era are novel (e.g. "DAE think pirates are bad and the wild west was racist?"), but in the main, people are attracted to it as nostalgia, not dystopia.

>> No.13333059

>>13333016
No, see >>13333053

>>13333036
These threads have been going on over at /pol/ for months already. As soon as the OP gave it a name on /lit/, a bunch of tripfagging homos and graphfags immediately attempted to co-opt the sentiment without actually understanding it.

>> No.13333066

>>13333053
Thanks, good response. How would you say something like Infinite Jest figures into this?

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>>13333053
>>13333059
Forgot picture.

>> No.13333071

>>13333053
>but in the main, people are attracted to it as nostalgia, not dystopia.

Burgerpunk as the adult looking back at growing up in 1990s America and still living like it's 2009.

>> No.13333089

>>13333066
I've never read it, but if it's anything like DFW's shorter stories, it probably focuses heavily upon the daily lives of its characters (who are presumably American, if someone is suggesting it as a contender to be on the chart) and their psychological responses to tedium. There was a time even after 9/11 when people were more or less apolitical, uncritical of their consumption patterns, and broadly disinterested in the political process because it seemed like just another hobby.

Once the financial crisis hit, though, you were no longer jsut worrying about a shopping mall getting shot up, but also about losing your livelihood (or actually losing it, which leads to increased political participation). This trend starts around 2011 with Occupy Wallstreet and marks the end of that 'carefree' spirit of American capitalism, just the same way railroads and widely available barbed wire ended the reign of the American cowboy.

>>13333071
Exactly.

>> No.13333105

As I'm working on a chart of my own, I'm amazed at how Jewish almost all the content creators are - it wasn't intentional, but probably upwards of 60%. Mildly depressing.

>> No.13333112
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13333112

Slogging thru this essay from 1990.

https://tayiabr.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/e-unibus-pluram-david-foster-wallace-1990/

E Unibus Pluram, David Foster Wallace (1990)

Originally published in The Review of Contemporary Fiction, this essay sketches a loose history of the American television industry advertising, U.S. fiction and advertisement. The title “E Unibus Pluram” means “from one, many” and is a solipsistic play on the American motto, “E Pluribus Unum,” which means “out of many, one.”

>> No.13333139

>>13333059
>I get to say what is and isn't burgerpunk you drooling halfwit plebeians! I post on /pol/!

>> No.13333160

>>13333067
/pol/ weeping over that image is not the same thing at all as /lit/ writing a book
/lit/ has written several books before, and millions of people have been sad about American commercialism for at least a century

>> No.13333177

>>13333089
Yeah there's been a not insignificant school of thought on these proposing that something like Infinite Jest is the quintessential burgerpunk, which I think points to the primary distinction between what you're suggesting it is and what you see as the co-opters are claiming it is, because Infinite Jest is a critique of the sedative qualities of American entertainment, food, drugs, etc. and so, serves as a pretty good example of how these people are missing the point of what burgerpunk acutally is

>> No.13333185

>>13333053
>>13333089
So your idea is that it's vaporwave plus 20 years. I appreciate you expounding on this, but honestly, it's not a better pitch than what you're criticizing.

>> No.13333186

>>13333160
>/lit/ has written several books before
Need chart now

>> No.13333201

>>13332952
>momussucks.png
but anon momus is pretty cool even if his music has kinda sucked since 2016

>> No.13333207

>>13333160
>and millions of people have been sad about American commercialism for at least a century
Exactly, which should tell you that the only thing that gave rise to this was /pol/, not anti-American faggots on /lit/.

>/pol/ weeping over that image is not the same thing at all as /lit/ writing a book
They aren't writing a book, they're jerking off over an idea they don't understand.

>>13333185
No, you don't get it.

>> No.13333211

>>13326472
lidlpunk but the entire culture only works in america desu

>> No.13333284
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Many posters believe Burgerpunk belongs to them and can only be defined by them. Burgerpunk can be anything.

The "first" "book" written so far has a specific story. The focus on McDonald's in the document we shall call "thank you for eating burgers" was setup in the prologue. I guess subwaypunk would be too confusing.

>In the year 2005 the McDonald’s Corporation’s legal counsel sent a memo to the board, informing them of the current state of Supreme Court jurisprudence. The In-house counsel, having outsourced their actual work, spent their time crafting an argument that, because corporations had rights as regular persons, the McDonald’s corporation could run for president. It was put to a vote by the board and approved by the vast majority of shareholders that it would conduct a pilot test of running for president.
The same memo provided that, because money was considered speech, they could, in fact, provide a free small drink with proof of voting for Mcdonald’s.
The election of 2008 was by far the most one sided election in the history of the united states. Under the new Party, Mcdonald’s ushered in a new era of corporate control. Leading to what is now known as… burgerpunk

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hdtsFSjfWeGNA7ButLhjA_th7R4sr1YgCXY8Ury1xrY/edit?usp=sharing

Anyone can type up and share a new prologue to a new book written by a new set of authors.

>> No.13333304

>>13333207
/lit/ is writing a book right now, as we have done many times before. Maybe you should go back to your containment board if you're both this new and this much of a faggot.
>>13333186
You don't need a chart. The first three are a series called The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra, then there's Hypersphere and one from last year that I can't seem to find called L'Anonime or something. There have been a handful of smaller side projects, but these are as far as I know the only ones that have had somewhat-finished products.
Recently an anon has made periodic threads about publishing an actual journal of serious /lit/ submissions this fall because apparently he has money to burn, but I don't know how much progress he's made and it's been a couple weeks since I saw him.

>> No.13333311

>>13333284
>Burgerpunk can be anything.
GTFO here you pomo faggot.
>Oh anything can be anything because nothing means anything even though the very act of denying meaning implies it OOOOOH SO TRENDY
>I want to be a part of Internet culture and maybe Internet Historian will make a COOL YOUTUBE VIDEO about the Google Doc that *I* started (Anonymously though, because I'm just that much of an artist even though I'm a retard who has nothing to contribute to the thread).
Fucking kill yourself you newfaggot cunt.

>> No.13333324

>>13333207
/pol/acks are a cancer, and if you don't understand this it's because you don't belong here

>> No.13333330

>>13333304
>both this new and this much of a faggot
I have been here longer than you have. There is no *we* - that's why it's obvious that you're a newfag who just goes along with whatever shit you read on /lit/ because you don't do any critical thinking of your own because you have a psychology akin to that of an enormous walking vagina or other physical void that is only capable of taking things in rather than actually producing things for himself (hence the need to "write" your "book" collaboratively, as well as taking credit for other books that you likely didn't play any part in).

>> No.13333375
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Notice the level of illiteracy and empathy in the last 4 posts

>> No.13333376

>>13333324
This is the battlecry of some faggot from Reddit who only browses /lit/ and a handful of other blue boards. I will grant you that /pol/ as a board went over to cancer after the election brought the boomers in, but the people who crosspost to both /pol/ and /lit/ aren't those people. You're just a faggot who doesn't have any actual refutations for the dissidence of the new right, which is why you resort to pretending that you're part of some group of /lit/ patricians that doesn't even exist. I posted here before I ever knew about /pol/, and guys like you were faggots back then, too.

>> No.13333377

>>13333333

>> No.13333393

>>13333330
>All this vitriol to call me a pussy
I don't care about your nigger opinion on the True Creative Essence of the Hacker Known as 4chan

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>>13333393
Based. You're still wrong about /pol/ being bad, /lit/ being good, and Burgerpunk. fagwagon

>> No.13333419

>>13333376
>the people who crosspost to both /pol/ and /lit/ aren't those people
People who whinge about Jews and degeneracy in completely unrelated threads to derail them exist on all small blue boards because the size of /pol/ dwarfs them all
>You're just a faggot who doesn't have any actual refutations for the dissidence of the new right
I have plenty but I don't bring them up because turning every fucking thread into high school debate club is the exact cancerous bullshit I hate you niggers for

>> No.13333432

If TUMBLR collaborated on a "burgerspunk" novella how would the story turn out?

>> No.13333433

>>13326910
Do you have this to dl?
I can only find it in french

>> No.13333440

>>13333333

>> No.13333472

>>13333419
>whinge about Jews and degeneracy in completely unrelated threads
Imagine thinking chosenites and degenerate behavior is unrelated to Americanism.
>I have plenty but I won't post them
lol

>> No.13333480

>>13326134
this

>> No.13333482

>>13333432
Probably much like the one in this thread but slightly less gay.

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>>13333482

Let it be known that our hero Harry does not succumb to bisexuality in the original text.

>> No.13334201

Bump

>> No.13334315

I'd start a burgerpunk story at the McDonalds hot coffee lawsuit. A lone woman fighting the corporate system that creates a misinformation campaign to discredit her claim.

>> No.13334329

Is there an actual book/script being made by you guys? I've seen these generals in the catalogue from time to time but now I'm checking in to see.

>> No.13334345

>>13334329
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11E3P9Yvl6OCAqfTnISpQ97HE96OlsmZskagkGfycpMU/edit#heading=h.umbhlooa7lqn

save your own copy before it's beleted

>> No.13334355

>>13334329
>>13334345
Stop

>> No.13334363

>>13325947
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OG5eU-qKQABmY7BeUu2t_vBCPvQReH-_guNfsmaEGiA/edit?usp=drivesdk
Is this burgerpunk?

>> No.13334364
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13334364

Name a better burgerpunk band

>> No.13334388

>>13327705
Can someone shop a Victorian era painting into a burgerpunk aesthetic master piece

>> No.13334421

>>13334363
what did you consume as you wrote that?

>> No.13334428

That's it, screw you fags, I'm starting a better burgerpunk: clapcore

>> No.13334695

>>13334428
Based but whores will assume it is about the lifestyle

>> No.13334714
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>>13334428
>clapcore

If you're happy and you know it?

>> No.13335072

Are we back to gdocs, or should we just use this thread?

>> No.13335114

>>13335072
>Are we back to gdocs, or should we just use this thread?

Best to post here for the public record.

>> No.13335639

Bump

>> No.13335979
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is this burgerpunk too?

>> No.13335993
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>>13326472
bongpunk

>> No.13336486

Damn, i leave for a month to find accelerationism replaced by burgerpunk. How bored are all of you?

>> No.13336505

>>13335993
norfpunk

>> No.13336523
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>>13335979
This is the distilled essence of burgerpunk

>> No.13336841

>>13334421
A McChicken and a Dr. Pepper

>> No.13337053

>>13336486
pseudo writer bloggers gotta eat
https://youtu.be/tFINT7af-u4

>> No.13337465

>>13335979
this is cute

>> No.13337476

>>13337053
mans gotta eat julian

>> No.13337742

>söypunk got janny'd
>burgerpunk remains
are we next?

>> No.13338000

Do we really like to eat shit ?

>> No.13338351

>>13327777
Quads is boss. Came to this thread just to see if cheever was here. Maybe too early for the brand soaked zeitgeist.

>> No.13338592

>>13336523

The distinction between so called American Citizens and what capital A "America" may be must be understood before we proceed.

In this instance "America" and the website https://www.usa.gov/ are one in the same.

>> No.13338604

I’m going to drive through Breezewood tomorrow boys

What should I expect?

>> No.13338605

>>13337742
Basedpunk was meta meta post ironic shit posting
Burger punk is a post meta criticism number four with a large Diet Coke.

>> No.13338636

>>13338604
Pls take pics. Need inspo for my smut

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On a Missions trip to ThirdWorldlandia and encounter this

>> No.13338961

>>13326783
>no! Theres no nutrients in that burger! Its just calories!
Is this how intelligent this thread is?

Hahahhahhhahaahahahahhaahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahhahahahahhah

Read another novel to feel smart, brainlet.

>> No.13339078

>>13338961
nothing has surpassed the innovation and nutrient synthesis of the dubs with cheese. technically it is true as a single unit item

>> No.13339128

The sudden transition of a whisper into a scream forces my eyes open. With sleep still sitting on my eyelids I turn off the alarm and clumsily walk towards the bathroom. Will I dare to see myself and the grey of my visage? I say to myself, but I knew that hasn't been an option in a long time. With a slap of cold water I wipe the night away from my face, but it doesn't wash off the sensation in my eyes of looking at sun. As I turn back a wrinkled white shirt hanging on the bathroom door extends its arm and hands me a red tie as I step back into the gallows of my room. The queen-size bed laying on a dirty floor reminds me of those winter nights besides the warmness of her body. Even though five winters I have missed her shadow dancing on the shower curtain. I can’t wash away her essence off my flesh no matter how hard a scrub. To the right of the bed where she used to feel safe between me and the wall, rests a pile of book and some painkillers that have grown too weak for my constant headaches. They no longer protect me from the voices of wise men drilling through my skull, but they are unable to penetrate my silly and average mind. Despite my lack of appetite for German thinkers. There is so much neat cheese spilled over my bed, but not enough time to clean eat all.

>> No.13339381

>>13330653
all large, technologically advanced countries besides china and taiwan are knock-off america

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>>13339381

you have a point there

>> No.13339454

What’s more burgerpunk, name brand or off brand?

>> No.13339491

>>13339454
pay more or pay less for the same item

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>>13339454
having both is more burger than having one or the other or neither

>> No.13339763

>>13325947
>right lane must turn right
that is not true, metaphysically speaking

>> No.13339773

>>13326208
>neon lights of tokyo vs supermarket shelves of brooklyn

>> No.13339939

>>13326208
this isn't burgerpunk, it's vaporburger

>> No.13339980

AMERICA RULES, EUROPE A SHIT

>> No.13340014

>>13339939
burgerpunk and vaporwave are linked as hauntological iterations of cyberpunk, they just go different directions

>> No.13340313

Jerry Pomade swiped his micro tablet into work. It was to deliver pizza. People loved pizza, and people loved not leaving the house for pizza. Jungle.co could deliver anything you wanted these days straight to your door, but Pizza Max stayed in business across the National United Corporation Country because of people’s desire for pizza. People love pizza.

He was the best delivery driver at his location. Admiral Crunch’s Northern ex-TexanTerritory of the NUCC, known a decade ago as Dallas, was one of the lower ranked hubs for entrepreneurs and despots. Who knew that the programmer kid and the homeless man shared such a love for pizza.

“BeBop, who the fucko needs a gosh’n pizza?”

“Fuckin’a Pomade, down on the bulovard, the kickin’ bitchin’ workspace is havin’ a party.” Shouted BeBop over the post radio silence of the Pizza Max #12228 location. “Twelve pies ready to be loaded and pooped off broski.”

“Shit fuck you old cougar bear, I don’t even get a minute to myself!” Pomade said sarcastically. He was at work. Pizza Max demanded every minute be accounted for, otherwise his NUCC credits would be covered in loan shark trackers, and he didn’t want any of those privatefag bounty hunters sent out by the courts. He flipped from his tablet the Micro Pizza employment app and got the drone to pick up the pizza. People love pizza. The three heating bags, each with four pies in them were picked up by the Jungle.co drone and put into his self-driving car.

Pomade was a driver, his father had taught him at a young age how to use an automatic, and how to drive by himself. He was proud of this, but since the advent of self driving cars by corps like Jungle.co and PDF, driving your own car has become a misdemeanor, an accident caused by someone driving a car themselves is a first degree felony.

Pomade’s 1992 Civic was modded out with two modes. Self Drive, how he got to work, and Auti-Mati, for when he felt the need for the thrills of control in chaos. He loved driving against the AI of the other cars, they attempted to predict him with logic, and he gave them a heaping handful of incompetent and selfish driving tactics.

“Fuck-a-roo, lets go!” he shouted as he flipped on the Auti-Mati mode of his baby. His newly installed panel screen projected directions onto his windshield. His engine revved and he peeled out of the massive 10 acre parking lot of Pizza Max.
Ever since self driving cars had been introduced, stop and go traffic was no longer a thing, but the increasing population led to over congestion of the road ways anyway, everyone moved at a constant speed of 5-10 miles.

Too many people in this world. If he didn’t make it in 2 hours to the party, the recipients would get a ten percent discount, and he would be getting his third strike against him. Es no Bueno, and Pomade fucking hated Buenos.

>> No.13340316

>>13340313
His Civic ripped through the accress road and onto the freeway, heading to sector 46 of the north east side of Admiral Crunch’s Northern ex-TexanTerritory of the NUCC. Regularly an hour drive, but it was rush hour, every car was moving at a ripping four miles per hour.

Jesus christ’o fuckbois, how am I gonna get through this? He turned up his comm displays and rolled down his windows, an older technology not afforded in newer models. His speakers vibrated as on of his classic favorite dadrock came on over the pirated internet radio station he paid a monthly subscription for. It was Maroon 5. This shit was his jam, but he never would have let any of his friends, if he even had any – his Lip Service profile showed he had 72, most of which were from his first years of corporate self-paced educational supplementation that he didn’t talk to – know that he listened to such embarrassing and old muzak.
The ensuing gridlock passed by as if it was an old man in a constant state of inebriation, it continued living but without the need for purpose, feeling, or responsibility. He wasn’t staying on schedule. He needed to pop it in gearz.

He safely changed lanes eight times over to the far left lane, bumped his car onto the barrier space, and sped down the way, surpassing the amorphous blob of self-driving drivel. Fuck yeah, 23 miles per hour, a personal best.

“Fuck-a-reeper, here comes your peperoni peeper!” he shouted in a holler, to himself, in his car.

Maroon 5 blared past all the boomerfied millennials, grey with age and lost hope, dreaming of change yet accepting their place in Admiral Crunch’s Northern ex-TexanTerritory of the NUCC.

Pomade knew of a brave man who once said, “We live in a society.” Boy do we ever. As he trucked along. What the hell is a truck? Thinking about the society in which he lived, he didn’t notice the Jungle.co private enforcement drones that had spotted him overhead. Their brown and red sirens started screaming out; that finally caught his attention.

With a twist of the stering wheel left, a break, a quick tap of acceleration, then a hard right, he was able to force his way inbetween two self driveies. He flipped his switch, turning off auti mati mode and pulled a plugged leaver on his car roof. While undetectable to the human eye, the pulling of that leaver set in motion a series of small raspberry pi’s running scripts leading to an electro magnetic disrupter that blurred his car from the rest.

“Stupid frickin’ droneo pimps.” He muttered, to himself. They flew right past him without notice.

He arrived at the location with only two minutes to spare. It was time to deliver pizza. Everybody loves pizza.

>> No.13340343

>>13340316
>“Fuck-a-reeper, here comes your peperoni peeper!” he shouted in a holler, to himself, in his car.

I fucking love pizza.

>> No.13340743

>>13340343
Everybody loves pizza.

>> No.13341166

Bump

>> No.13341201

>>13340316
I like this, but I think you should work on your off-brand Nadsat.

>> No.13341206

what are your thoughts on fast food branded racing cars?

>> No.13341754

>>13339381
>knock-off america

>>13341206
Seems like a good match. In the movie Cars, the hero uses fast food grease as fuel. (And maybe I'm remembering wrong but I think it gets put in the car by drinking it)

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Is this burgerpunk?

>> No.13342212

>>13326038
No Air Conditioned Nightmare?

>> No.13342215

>>13342209
Nein, that would be edgepunk.

>> No.13342294

>>13342209
that's just punk-punk

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reading this rn and burgerpunk just seeps through the pages. should definitely go on a few charts

>> No.13342467

>>13326052
What exactly is the difference between post-burgerpunk and neo-burgerpunk in this picture?

>> No.13342572

>>13342467
post- goes beyond, neo- is just a repetition

>> No.13343334

>>13341201
I didn’t even realize I was clock work orangeing it until I reread it. Was it unbelievable, or just unfunny? What’s the goal, and what’s the action?

>> No.13343529

This thread made me hungry for a fast food burger so I went and got one

>> No.13343582

>>13343529
Everybody loves a burger.

>> No.13344525

>>13343582
Say that on /int/

>> No.13344593

"Latest commit bd56ccd 4 days ago "

>>13326005
>Git

When we had the google doc more people contributed than vandalized.

This version remains:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hdtsFSjfWeGNA7ButLhjA_th7R4sr1YgCXY8Ury1xrY/edit

>> No.13345441

>>13335979
No, but it's quite LSC.

>>13338961
I don't know if this was genuine or mendacious, but either way, you're dumb as fuck.