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Have they written anything worth reading?

>> No.13278723

>>13278690
Saul bellow is (technically) canadian

>> No.13278750

>>13278690
Degrassi

>> No.13278783

>>13278690
norm macdonald? lol

>> No.13278973

oryx and crake

anything by my girl Margaret Atwood

>> No.13278979

>>13278783
is norm a leaf? maybe that’s why i hate him so much

>> No.13278998

>>13278690
Only Munro.

>> No.13279163

Sasha Sokolov - school for fools
Michael Ondaatje - The English Patient

>> No.13279170

>>13278690
Canada is not even a real country, it should be annexed by China.

>> No.13280480

>>13278690

Alice Munro is the only Canadian author worth reading

>> No.13280489

>>13278690

Jeff Lemire but that's not /lit/

>> No.13280665

Stephen Leacock was born in England but he is considered a Canadian author. Probably one of our best in my estimation.

>> No.13280678

Robertson Davis is also pretty good and is famous for his incel-tier interpretation of lolita

>In 1959, novelist Robertson Davies excused the narrator entirely, writing that the theme of Lolita is "not the corruption of an innocent child by a cunning adult, but the exploitation of a weak adult by a corrupt child. This is no pretty theme, but it is one with which social workers, magistrates and psychiatrists are familiar."

>> No.13280688

>>13278973
The more I read of Atwood, the more I dislike her. Edible Woman is the best by her imo.

Doesn't change the fact that 'The Handmaid's Tale' is probably CanLit canon.

>> No.13280692

>>13279163
How does English Patient stack up against Skin of a Lion?

>> No.13280696

>>13278973
>>13280688
I've never read Atwood and never intend to because it seems like the people that love her are middle aged stay-at-home mothers with messy kitchens.

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AHEM

>> No.13280705

>>13280692
I haven't read skin of a lion, the English Patient is good though. Worth a read.

>> No.13280740

Mcluhan
Frye
Leacock

>> No.13280799

>>13280665
>>13280740
Leacock is really enjoyable. Sunshine Sketches had me in stitches, while Idle Adventures was quite humourous as well. I always send people 'Financial Career' as an intro to him: https://www.bartleby.com/380/prose/273.html

I haven't done enough Frye or McLuhan, but what I have read, I have enjoyed.

>>13280678
Davies is quite good. On his last two novels; I've read all the others.

Also, I felt similarly about Lolita...

>> No.13280819

>>13278690
French fetish fuel children's cartoons and that's aboot it.

>> No.13280830

>>13278690
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival:_A_Thematic_Guide_to_Canadian_Literature

>> No.13280835

>>13278998
>Munro
Legitimately one of the greatest short story writers of all time. I haven't encountered another Canadian near that level.

>> No.13280866

>>13278690
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Canadian_writers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_literature
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_writers

>> No.13280869

>>13280740
We should also include George Grant

>>13280835
Whole Munro is good I have the sneaking suspicion it's the only leaf most of you have read

>> No.13280875

>>13280869
You're right. Lament for a Nation is essential.

>> No.13280885

>>13278998
>>13280835
>>13280869
Where to start with Munro?

>> No.13280902

>>13280835
Yikes.

>> No.13281185

>>13280688
Is it better than the amazon show?

>> No.13281284

>>13278723
Come on now

>> No.13281399

>>13281185
I haven't watched the show at all.

The book is second/post-second wave feminism, with a simple and vitriolic bent against religion. The narrative is cut with flashbacks. There is 'mystery' in the work, which can pull you along, but the prose itself is YA-tier.

It was a tolerable read. My girlfriend, on the other hand, actually put the book down, because she thought it was so bad.

The death-knell of it being anything better than 'okay' was the epilogue Atwood wrote as a small satire against academia, which gutted the general 'moral' of the story. Completely undermined the whole work.

>> No.13281569

>>13278690
I work up in Canada all the time and their food/culture is literally shit, an aesthetic wasteland. I can't imagine they have much to offer in literature. McLuhan is based though.

>> No.13281641

>>13281569
Ontario isn't Canada, Yank.

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>>13281569
Fuck off from my country, amerishart

>> No.13281680

>>13281569
Stay out, spic.

>> No.13281707

>>13281569
When it comes to food I agree, but as far as culture goes it's not bad if you don't fall for memes. Urban culture in downtown Toronto is pretty cool and unironically very white (if that matters to you). And for rural stuff we have some amazing landscape for camping, hiking, portaging, etc. We're no Europe, though Quebec and Acadia have the whole linguistic aspect boosting their cultural profile, but as far as the new world is concerned I don't think we do so bad.

I love American food though. As far as I'm concerned the pinnacle of food is texas bbq

>> No.13281723

>>13281569
>he hasnt been to Quebec

>> No.13281728

>>13281723
Isn't that where all those people who dodged the draft in WW1 and WW2 live?

>> No.13281752

>>13281569
Quebec City is the only culturally interesting part of Canada. Go to QC for man-made beauty and BC for natural beauty.

Our writers seem to be nonevent, but there may be some great ones somewhere buried by our shitty Progressive soccer mom publishers/agents. Maybe.

>> No.13281778

>>13281641
But Ontario is Canada.
>>13281707
>>13281723
>>13281752
I'll have to check out Quebec.

>> No.13281822

>>13281778
quebec city is nice but the people are shit

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>>13281822
I'm going to Quebec city this summer. I hope you're wrong about frogs being shit.

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>Ctrl+f Bear
>0 Results

Seriously?

>> No.13281923

>>13281569
Canada is your 52nd state atm. No shit their culture replicate yours

>> No.13282009

>>13281752
>Quebec City is the only culturally interesting part of Canada
Keep believing this. We don't want Amerikikes here anyways, they're worse than migrants.

>> No.13282035

>>13280696
Atwood is pretty good, just go ahead and say you hate women instead they of trying to justify skipping a perfectly good author

>> No.13282071
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Marian Engel

>> No.13282077

LM Montgomery is the ultimate INFP bait. Want to go back in time and marry that woman before she killed herself.

>> No.13282084

>>13281569
Please don’t come back goblino

>> No.13282093

Mordecai Richler

>> No.13282139

>>13281569
The worst parts of Canada are the super commercial cities, like Vancouver or Toronto. Quebec is really beautiful, and the maritime provinces are incredibly friendly and serene. Alberta is gorgeous, and generally pleasant as long as you avoid talking to the brain-dead populace. The northern territories are also great, especially for the outdoor types.
Basically, stay out of the major shithole cities, and enjoy the small towns and provincial parks.

>> No.13282144

>>13280885
Anywhere my guy, she writes short stories. No need to ask where to start because it's not like there's a huge time investment involved.

I'd recommend "Runaway"

>> No.13282150

>>13282139
Canadian small towns are fucking hideous and run down. The whole country is shit outside of nature and Quebec

>> No.13282159

>>13282009
>... they're worse than migrants.
Not quite.

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>No one ITT has read Anne Carson
>No one ITT has read Alden Nowlan
>No one ITT has read George Elliot Clarke

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>>13282150
>Niagara-on-the-lake, Rouyn-Noranda, Dorset, Sault Ste. Marie, Banff, Kelowna, Yellowknife, Halifax
>hideous
I have to disagree, m8

>> No.13282181

Thank you for include one spot in the Maritimes, but you've chosen rather poorly

Not that Halifax isn't pretty, but even so...

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>>13282150
>>13282181

>> No.13282208

>>13280665
His stories were based as closely on real people as you can get without being sued. I have family who grew up in the same town he wrote about.

>> No.13282217

>>13282205
maybe you're confused, my post about the Maritimes was meant to be a reply to the post directly above it

I'm certainly confused, at least. Are you saying that because Quebec is pretty the rest of Canada can't be? Not sure of your angle here bud

>> No.13282218

>>13281399
I don't recall the epilogue.
The anti religion stance came from her horror at watching how fast women's rights were overturned in Revolutionary Iran. Literally overnight. But you can't write bad about Islam and get published so she made it about far right Christianity -which tbf at the time was also growing in power and lunacy under Reagan.

>> No.13282223

>>13281707
>Toronto is very white
You cannot have been to Toronto once in the past 15 years.

>> No.13282227

>>13282217
Not that anon, but you said the post above had poor choices, so you got a reply with an additional place.
Seems to add up to me.

>> No.13282228

>>13278998
Came to say this. Literally only her lmao.

>> No.13282238

>>13282181
Halifax is gross.

>> No.13282247

>>13282227
Oh okay, I see now how my post is ambiguous. I only meant to say that to single out Halifax for its beauty out of anywhere in the Maritimes was a poor choice. Halifax is pretty, but not when compared to a lot of the Maritimes. No accounting for taste, though.

>>13282238
I disagree

>> No.13282248

>>13282223
Maybe he meant that it's whiter than Brampton.

>> No.13282481

>>13278690
In Flanders Field was written by a Canadian.

>> No.13282503

>>13282481
That does not constitute good writing, it's bland propaganda recited at elementary school assemblies

>> No.13283669

>>13282503
Yikes.

>> No.13283671

Canada has never and will never produce anything of slight importance in the cultural realm.

>> No.13283676

You seem mad, anon

>> No.13283693

All the best musicians.
All the best writers.
All the best comedians
Basically all of our traditions remain here.
Completely forgotten. But that's okay because it's what allowed our culture to survive the first time. Stay cucked, Upper Canada.
But collapse soon, we won't be able to survive Americanisation forever.

>> No.13283724

>>13282071
>writes a parody of CanLit nature fiction
>obviously a disgusting joke of a book
>thirty years pass
>third-wave feminists extol it as a woke, ennobling, and v. serious masterpiece

>> No.13283740

>>13278690
Who is Mavis Gallant?

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>>13283671
Haha, America will never win a war.
Stay mad, human pollution.

>> No.13284266

Canadians live a nice life free of suffering and with great music and good food, they don't need to produce culture to feel good. America is a third world hellhole so they have to write books to cope. Germany, France, and Russia are also shitholes, which is why they have produced so much literature.

>> No.13284283

Greatest canadian poet is still Gaston Miron.

>> No.13284296

>>13278973
Oryx and Crake is the only Atwood I enjoyed

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>>13281569
Where exactly in canada?
Come to North Ontario, we can catch some fish and put them in the smoker. Then we can get high and paddle around in a canoe waiting for the fish to finish.

>> No.13284310

>>13282173
Kelowna is kinda fucking hideous, aside from the nature. There are some nice towns in BC though

>> No.13284657

>>13278973
>>13284296
Oryx and Crake, her poetry, and some of her short stories are worthwhile.

>> No.13284708

>>13279170
Just give it 10 more years. Maybe even less now that I'm in Vancouver

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Mark Laba
Steve Venright
Jason Heroux
Stuart Ross
Jim Smith
Alice Burdick
Lillian Nećakov
Erín Moure
Steven Heighton
Catherine Owen
George Elliot Clarke
David W. McFadden
George Bowering
Gary Barwin
Moez Surani
Jean-Paul Daoust
Michel Garneau
Marie-Claire Blais
Marie Uguay
Denise Desautels
Michel van Schendel
Paul-Marie Lapointe
Réjean Ducharme
Jean Vaillancourt
Jakob Glatstein
Louis Hémon
Malcolm Lowry

>> No.13284961

>>13281852
I'm afraid they are kind of shit. Don't worry, it isn't personal. They literally hate everyone.

>> No.13284988

>>13280678
I'm surprised The Cunning Man isn't more popular here, I feel like it would play very well with the surge of semi-sincere Christianity.

>> No.13285418

>>13280885
I have a collection that came out after she won the Nobel Prize, Family Furnishings. Loved it, absolutely loved it. Every time I reread a story I both run into things I "remember" and realize only during reading were not in the text but vivid associations, and gorgeous little details I overlooked in earlier readings. Her psychological insight is to me unrivaled, she has such a keen ear for how people talk and she manages to describe people in all their unpleasantness yet still with so much unspoken respect for their trial and error with life and the way they were shaped by experience.

I have gotten a few avid readers around me to try her and no one has been as enthusiastic as I am, which was disappointing, but I still stand by it. Her stories are very quiet and introspective, don't expect real laughter or too big for life characters or swift turns of dramatic events, but to me no other writer can come close to her depiction of everyday life as it is lived and experienced by everyday people.

And to top it all off she has not just been productive for virtually her whole life, she has only gotten better at what she does.

Also this might just be because I have a soft spot for Cohen anyway for obvious reasons but I quite enjoyed his novels. Beautiful Losers is too experimental for its own good and just an odd curveball of a novel, but the Favorite Game is a relatively classic and touching coming of age story.

>> No.13285430

I wrote some brilliant poetry in the bathroom stall if that counts.

>> No.13286316

Our Alberta Heritage by Jacques Hamilton

>> No.13286538

What would a Canadian Chart look like?

>> No.13286823

>>13282173
Amazing list of curated tourist towns that still fail be 1/5th as charming as the average non-descript town in England. I'm talking about the real towns, industry towns, towns that are not made for tourists. The towns with run down homes, rusty cars in ditches on the sides of the roads, towns whose downtown is an exact replica of the bugerpunk thread OP picture. In other words, 99% of Canadian towns.

>> No.13286960

Jack Kerouac

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>>13286823
>Yellowknife
>Rouyn
>tourist towns

>> No.13287160

Surprised Dany Laferrière isn’t more popular on /lit/.

>> No.13287234

>>13278690
My Collected 4chan Posts.