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Does it get better /lit/? I'm almost halfway done, but I'm not sure if I want to continue or not. Celine is a good writer, but Journey to the End of the Night comes off as being my diary if I kept one.

>> No.13266249

>>13266243
The first half is the best. Also it's way better in French.

>> No.13266258

>>13266249
Really? I heard the second part where he goes to America was the best part. This is going to come off weird coming from a Doomer, but I can only take despair and gloom before I get sick of it. Still the part about Alcide and his niece was wholesome af.

>> No.13266282

>>13266258
It's only my opinion desu, maybe other anons have a different perspective.

>> No.13266374

>>13266258
The second half in when he returns from America back to France and gets constantly ripped off by ungrateful patients.

Honestly, it's mostly the war part in the beginning that's worth reading about.

>> No.13266397

I think you're retarded. If you think a writer is good, then by definition his work must be good too, unless you're judging authors by personal merit.

>> No.13266413

>>13266397
Just because someone is good at writing doesn't mean their plots are good.

>> No.13266481

>>13266413
>reading for the plot
Well..it's ok, Céline is obviously not for you

>> No.13267089

>>13266481
>Not reading for plot.
Please don't tell me you're one of those prosefags, anon.

>> No.13267111

>>13267089
Not him but you need to stay in /sffg/.
A good prose make a book good.

>> No.13267124

>>13266413
>reading for the plot
stick to genre fiction and tv shows my guy

>> No.13267128

>>13267111
>>13267124
Ideally a good book would have good prose and plot. However, if I had to choose between the two it would be plot. Good prose on it's own with no plot is just literary masturbation
.

>> No.13267152

>>13267089
>Please don't tell me you're one of those prosefags
I like characters and settings for which a unique and personal prose is absolutely necessary. The plot is just the substructure of the prose, its untreated and crude Leitfaden.

>> No.13267156

>>13266243
if you don't like it stop reading... nobody is forcing you to read. don't understand why you have to ask online instead of making a decision like a grown adult

>> No.13267177

>>13267128
There are many masterpieces with only good prose. There a none with only good plot.

>> No.13267195

>>13267152
I'd argue that you got it backwards. It's the prose that is the substructure of the plot.

>>13267156
I want to actually finish a book after three failed attempts. I just want some reassurance that it's worth continuing.

>>13267177
Name three.

>> No.13267226

>>13267195
Les Fleurs Du Mal (The Flower Of Evil)
Ulysses
À La Recherche Du Temps Perdu (In Search Of Lost Time)
I choose those, first because poetry is a proof prose itself makes a text good, ISOLT is pretty much 4000 pages of poetry, in prose, that is just beautiful.
And Ulysses, well if you're on /lit/, you probably know about Ulysses.

>> No.13267768

>>13266249
> Also it's way better in French.

Ignore this bobo. Céline has great prose in french, no doubt, but his style is overrated by frogs. Maurice Bardèche knew this. Manheim is a fine translator and the french bobos who praise his style do so to avoid having to deal with what Céline is really about. They'll probably quote some bullshit he wrote about how style is everything...taking Céline at his word like that...very, very cringe.

>> No.13268123

>>13266243
That's how I felt about The Book of Disquiet... It was so relatable that it was a bit boring.

>> No.13268156

>>13266413
>plot