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13260624 No.13260624 [Reply] [Original]

Where does Tolstoy objectively rank?

>> No.13260637

below dosto

>> No.13260639

>objectively
what is this? 2014 /mu/?

>> No.13260852

Above any burger, that's for sure.

>> No.13260864

>>13260624
Well his fg% is lacking this season but he really seems to have found his shot beyond the arc.

>> No.13260870

>>13260624
In the forest, it seems

>> No.13260885

>>13260852
t. burger

>> No.13260893

>>13260852
As someone who has read both of them in the original, I can assure you that William Gass was a better prose stylist than Tolstoy

>> No.13260970

>>13260893

Prose style is not everything, you know.

I actually pity Gass for wasting 26 years in a book like The Tunnel, when he could have written literature that actually has human understanding and long lasting impact.

>> No.13260988

>>13260970
>human understanding and long lasting impact

cringe

>> No.13260995

>>13260624
He's a big guy

>> No.13261058

>>13260893

And yet nobody reads The Tunnel, it’s a mere curiosity, while War and Peace and Anna Karenina are widely read and loved by the public and considered to be some of the greatest novels of all time by all critics.

>> No.13261192

>>13260624
> implying anyone here has the ability to rank Tolstoy
Heh.

>> No.13261208

>>13260624
Greatest novelist. Sixth greatest writer of all time

>> No.13261224

>>13261058
>appealing to the public
Lmfao what

>> No.13261234

>>13261208
I’m not sure who you’d rank above him, but I think I’d agree. For me, he comes very close to absolutely perfect. Perhaps equal with Shakespeare and Dante.

>> No.13261239

>>13260893
Oй дa иди нaхyй.

>> No.13261261

>>13260624
Below Shakespeare ;)

>> No.13261269

>>13261234
1. Shakespeare
2. Dante
3. Homer
4. Virgil
5. Goethe
6. Tolstoy
Is probably a traditional ranking. But what do I know, I'm a massive gay.

>> No.13261313

Shakespeare is nowhere near the top 10. He is a high school indoctrinated meme. MAYBE top 50

>> No.13261346

>>13261269
This is pretty accurate and if you're looking for anything else you're going to be forcing it. Voltaire, Schopenhauer, and a part of Nietzsche would keep the top three as is (maybe even scooting Virgil up a bit and Goethe, too). Shakespeare can almost in consensus stay at the top unless you talk to Tolstoy. Unfortunately to rank Tolstoy we can't turn to the thinkers I've listed, and the same goes for Proust and Joyce. But I'd stick all three of these guys right next to each other and somewhere near the top.

>> No.13261371

>>13261269

Tolstoy is superior to all of thembut Shakespeare. War and Pece is greater than the Iliad. Goethe nd Virgil then...are you kidding?

>> No.13261512

>>13261239
Caм иди нaхyй, нeocилятop

>> No.13261516

>>13261269
cringe

>> No.13261524

>>13261346
>Voltaire, Schopenhauer, and a part of Nietzsche

Yikes

>> No.13261617

>>13261269
>2. Dante

I can understand why he is admired, but no mtter how much I force myself I simply cant love him. He isfar too cold and somwhat devoided of a real understanding of humanity.

He is a master of rhyme, form, economy and simmetry, though (but his smaller poems and sonnets are mediocre).

>> No.13261635

>>13260995
for you