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13250747 No.13250747 [Reply] [Original]

I'm bored and lonely. How do I meet people who are into /lit/ stuff? I keep having these elaborate fantasies of being involved in an intellectual circle. I was involved in one during university and it was really great, but in post-grad life, it's hard to find people with a similar temperament.

>> No.13250758

You don't want to

>> No.13250796

You're a post grad - so at your university?

>> No.13250799

>>13250747
Work at a bookstore

>> No.13250847

>>13250747
Work at a library or bookstore
Anywhere where people willingly engage in the pursuit of knowledge or in reading. You’ll never convince someone too. It needs to be done out of a persons own volition. You may find three or four people in your life as interested in you may be of books.

>> No.13250889

>>13250799
I've been trying to do this a number of years now. It's surprisingly hard to find a bookstore without a tight knit staff that's actually hiring.

>> No.13250905

I don't understand why you guys want to voluntarily talk to other /lit/ people IRL. What are you going to talk about? Hegel? Dosto? It's all so cringe

>> No.13250923

Even meeting people post-education is hard enough, let alone /lit/ people.

>> No.13250975

>>13250905
How is it cringe? I hate how anything that uses some brain cells is cringe, stop being so insecure about your interests faggot.

>> No.13250993

Prostitute yourself

>> No.13251019

>>13250747
you can try cumming in ur own mom

>> No.13251026

>>13251019
/thread

>> No.13251030

>>13250747
why not just get back together with your uni "intellectual circle"? did it fall apart?

>> No.13251630

>>13250975
Not him but I've never heard an intellectual conversation that wasn't cringe. Maybe between professors but even then. Can you write out some interesting intellectual conversations you had?

>> No.13251655

>>13251630
the idea that discussing things you are interested in is "cringe" is so ridiculously dangerous and sad. imagine being so insecure that you can't ever express a sincere thought or idea because you are constantly policing yourself to fit in.

>> No.13251673

>>13251655
So I take that as a no.

>> No.13251682
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13251682

>>13250747
>tfw too intelligent for dumb people
>tfw too dumb for intelligent people

>> No.13251698

>>13251673
i've had interesting """""intellectual""""" conversations on my own of course. no matter what i post you'll reject, you're wired up to do it already because the idea of what is or is not "cringe" is not an objective fact. it's almost becoming like a witch hunt mentality, where people are afraid of acting "cringe" because then they'll be associated with some undesirable and socially shunned group

>> No.13251723

>>13250747
Either bend over because most people who self identify as a "reader" are cultural Marxist fags or you could just get some good friends who are intelligent and talk with them about /lit/ topics. Go to the pub, fate has a way of organising your life to what you truly are striving for. Perhaps you do not want friends, perhaps you must not have friends for some further goal to be accomplished. If you are aware of this synchronicistic reality it shall bestow its gift towards yourself more and more so.

>> No.13251732

>>13251682
What do you mean by too dumb for intelligent people? I believe that you just lack creativity which is the defining factor between the intelligent and the dumb. Intelligence of the memory simply advances this as a range of intention.

>> No.13251755

>>13251698
What are you on about? I don't think you deny something being "cringe" is a real thing. Having intellectual conversations is just something where your more likely to have that moment.

>i've had interesting """""intellectual""""" conversations on my own of course.
Go on.

>> No.13251761

>>13250747
Lots of pretentious girls out there looking for people to convince them they're worthy of validation. Doesn't take much to convince them either. I wouldn't suggest it actually. Groupthink is horrible unless you're precommitted to learning something. Free discussion isn't a 25+ thing anymore either, so get that out of your head. If you're male and semi-intelligent or just interested in books and theories, I wouldn't get your hopes up. Just volunteer somewhere and go hang out in used book stores and listen to people's conversations like I do. It's been 15 years without connections, but man have I read some good books....

>> No.13251855

Your peers in post-grad school aren't into literature? What are you studying?

>> No.13251870

>tfw no friend circle of young attractive intellectuals who meet regularly to discuss a variety of shit and fuck each other like rabits
why live?

>> No.13251898

>>13251030
>uni
>intellect

lol pick one

>> No.13252883

>>13250747
Going to hijack this thread.
What clubs/activities should I join at Uni to meet /lit/ people that aren't only lit?

>> No.13252910

I also had this at uni, then everyone went their separate ways and now I got nothing but /lit/
It's fucking depressing
I've joined a book group at my local independent bookstore so we'll see how that goes, haven't been to any meetings yet

>> No.13253035

>>13250747
I've joined a couple of book clubs. The first one was highbrow enough but pretty middle aged, the second one was more my generation but had a tendency to select uninteresting books. At the end you go away feeling like there was maybe one other person who was really on your wavelength, but then if it's a woman she's on her guard against hookup seekers and if it's a dude you just run into this awkwardness of making new friends as an adult. So you go back to the next meeting instead of really getting to know that person. Because the turnover time is so long people may drop out over a year or two. Although staying and showing interest in the topic can, perversely, give you a chance to abuse it and hook up.

Basically, it's okay, but it's never totally satisfying. Also, the person who runs it is always the shittiest person in the group, but you need them, so make nice.

>> No.13253086

>>13253035
my group doesn't have a leader, we take it turns to host and pick a book we love that we want everyone else to read and discuss. it works pretty well

>> No.13253120

>>13253035
Do you live in a big city?

>> No.13253173

>>13251761
>Free discussion isn't a 25+ thing anymore
End of your 20’s convo is more about style. Learn to enjoy the game they play, be one of them. It’s not that bad. A clever quick quip that lands well feels good now and then. Then go home and fill your depths with Faulkner.

>> No.13253180

Look for people who look alone and sad and talk to them

>> No.13253195

>>13253180
You talk about bums?

>> No.13253205

>>13253035
>maybe one other person who was really on your wavelength
Lot of morons at these things. And the ideologues are insufferable with everything ever written seen through their painfully narrow lens. And maybe I’m just a judgmental cunt, but the few half-decent ppl rarely seem worth your time. Best to just give up and spare yourself the disappointment

>> No.13253233

>>13253086
Sounds cool. I guess you guys are pretty motivated. Where I've been I think everyone is grateful for this one sort of overactive chick who does all the logistics, sends reminders and stuff.

>>13253120
Yeah, but not connected enough to find groups that don't advertise.

>> No.13253972

>>13250747
Reading clubs, online groups with meetups or some uni activities if you have those.

>> No.13254683

>>13251655
That guy probably means that the "intellectuals" one sees arguing are pretentious cunts, something you seem to be as well

>> No.13254707

Talking about literature with people in real life sounds exhausting. At least online I can ignore people when they say dumb shit and I'm not being pressured into reading garbage. Real life is like Reddit where you can't really say what you think and you can't disagree with somebody too much. You have to be overly nice and dress up your language, you can't just be blunt with somebody.

>> No.13254789

>>13251655
This is a good post anon.

>> No.13254822

Everyone's already mentioned your uni, try actually going to things. The obvious thing is joining clubs (you don't have to be Arts student to join an Arts-related club, they'll take your membership fees regardless), but this can be hit or miss if the club is overly cliquey or poorly run, it's students afterall. Your uni probably has cultural events (art showings, poetry readings, general interest lectures) that you can show up to, and there's probably stuff like that in your area given it's a student town.

You could honestly join a political party. The majors will be full of budding career politician hacks, but a good minor left-wing/socialist group should have a few decent people in it.

>> No.13254975

>>13250847
Won't always help. I work in a bookshop, we have to read atleast 1 book from our sortiment each 3 months, then write a short review to put next to the book. All my co-workers read modern thriller shit, aswell with some LOTR, HP and GoT. We do sell Camus and Sartre, which I tried to talk with them about, and their respone was "Oh, I tried, but it was too tough" or "Its not my type of literature"
Although, whenever I see a customer buying something /lit/, I always try to speak a little extra with them.

>> No.13255015

>>13252883
Debate clubs or literary societies.

>> No.13255306

>>13251682
i get what you mean. My brain is like a randomy generated set of skills and weaknesses, there's no consistency. I'll be really good at this one specific thing, then terrible at another. I'm also more focused and sharp depending on the day of the week and the weather. I guess I have an attentional disorder, but was never diagnosed.

>> No.13255332

I don't like meeting people in real life. there's so much hassle involved. You have to greet them, talk about worthless shit for a while, only to get to the relatively good stuff. Usually I'm awkward as fuck anyway, so I wanna leave even if we're having an interesting conversation. Only when I get drunk do I stop being so anxious all the time and actually enjoy a good irl conversation. these are very rare though, and I hate being committed to someone/some event I don't actually like after a couple of tries. Here I can hop from thread to thread when I get bored and no one will care. It's much better this way.

>> No.13255390

>>13255332
I feel the same, but I worry a lot about missing out on so much meaningful social interaction. My problem is that I'm never able to enjoy it in the moment because of anxiety and sensory processing issues. People have asked if I'm autistic many times, but I have been tested and it turned out I'm not. That only makes things more difficult desu. I'm too weird to get along with most other people, but I'm also too empathic and "normal" to fit in with the autists. I feel like a spirit floating in between two worlds, none of which will come fully into focus. Like looking at the world through frosted glass.

>> No.13255625

>>13251682
this to be honest, I only have enough intelligence to realise that I am a fucking idiot

>> No.13255898

>>13250747
I joined a book club in college and made many friends. I was trying to fuck a really hot red head, so I read a bunch of pretentious books to show off.

She wasn't interested but reading is nice.

>> No.13256375

>>13255306
Isn't this normal, though? You can't be good at everything.

>> No.13256417

>>13250905
American spotted. Intellectual discourse is not cringe outside of your desert of plastic, nihilism and tv irony, I'm sorry :D

>> No.13256456

>>13251755
Every time someone says something is cringe, it says way more about them than the situation or the accused. It’s like when a 12 year old says, “We’ll this is awkward!” Cringe and awkward moments happen to everyone in any given situation. Anything worthwhile about you, there is assuredly someone out there who will find it detestable cringe. Let people talk about ideas and their passions without worrying whether some random YouTube zoomer is gonna judge you for it.

>> No.13256707

>>13256456
Are you saying adults don't have embarrassing moments that stay in their mind as embarrassing moments?

>> No.13256755

>>13256707
There is a difference between experiencing embarrassing moments and obsessively avoiding what the individual perceives to be embarrassing behavior. it is better to express oneself and take the risk of being "cringe" than to cower in safe silence.

>> No.13256758

>>13250747
I'd chat with you anon. Have any burner contact info?

>> No.13256769

>>13256456
the way people use the word cringe is a sign of extreme oversocialization. When someone does something awkward or embarrassing the normal thing to do is smooth it over not react with exaggerated vicarious shame

>> No.13256821

Anybody got online literature forum recommendations?

>> No.13256840

I'm moving to Vancouver this fall to attend a small community college which appears to be mostly full of stressed business majors and nurses. If anyone wants to meet up and hang out I've been toying with the idea of starting a Red Tory society where we can read Chesterton and de Maistre and Marx and occasionally schmooz with people of interest.

Otherwise, working in hotels/hostels is a good way to occasionally meet interesting literate people. Occasionally being the keyword, it's mostly vacuous backpackers and girls who just graduated from college take a three month dick safari before settling down and joining the 'real world'.

>> No.13256872

>>13250889
i know that feel. do I have to make friends with the staff? i dont get how to job

>> No.13256888

>>13251655
how do i change from constantly policing myself?

>> No.13256908

>>13252883
mud club or art club

>> No.13257023

>>13256888
nice trips.

I'd say if you think it is something that is seriously detrimental to your quality of life, trying a therapist couldn't do any harm. it also depends on what specifically you feel you're policing yourself from doing. if it's just expressing your viewpoints and ideas i'd say it's important to accept that you are not a perfect person and you will be wrong/"cringe"/whatever sometimes and that is okay. you are not expected to be an expert, you are expressing yourself based on the knowledge you have gathered up to this point and having confidence in that is not a bad thing.

>> No.13257106

>>13250747
>tfw also want /lit/ friends but I'd probably hate all of you irl
thing is i'd like a group of interesting /lit/ friends to push each other further and develop our ideas. but most guys on /lit/ are boring shut-ins who read the same old shit meme books just to look cool and never produce anything or think their own ideas. I don't want to listen to someone regurgitate someone else's thoughts.
>>13251655
I'd be your friend, anon. Someone else gets it.

>> No.13258359

>>13257106
Original ideas are built upon ideas that already exist, I imagine. Not like I've ever thought of anything original but isn't it a good thing, ultimately, that people read the meme books and at least comprehend them well enough? It's step one and many don't move on to step two, which would be to separate wheat and chaff, if you know what I mean. That's what a nice book club would be for: a group of fellows with lots of ideas sifting around their brains and a place to lay them out, organize them, nurture or snuff them out, and leave with new ideas and a feeling of accomplishment. It could become a circle of memes but over time, it would surely evolve. If it's so hard to find people in real life for this, maybe Youtube, Bitchute, or some livestreaming platform without censorship would allow people to shed their anonymity and meet likeminded individuals. Just wear masks and point a camera somewhere without any identifiable information and have a real book club but online.

>> No.13258416

>>13258359
it really isn't that difficult to find people interested in philosophy and literature irl. esp if you're near a uni

>> No.13258456

>>13258416
How does one do it if one is not enrolled in courses? I have no money for that and community colleges are nightmares. Every time I go there I'm swarmed by an endless sea of financial aid scammers who are only there to blow their money on drugs and friendly middle-aged men and women getting practical degrees in HVAC or social work. I met met one fellow who actually read for fun in 5 years of failed attempts at community college and they were an alcoholic at the age of 18. I can't stand that. Not only that, I might be moving to a desolate small town to take care of my aging mother and what then?

>> No.13258486

>>13258456
you sound young, you're interested in kinda niche things for your age (especially if you grew up in a small town kinda area). I remember thinking the same kind of things when i was a junior/senior in highschool. you will most likely eventually meet people who are interested in what you are interested in. i know what it feels like to live in an area where it seems like nobody is into what you're into, but if you look for it for long enough you're bound to find people.

>> No.13258526

>>13258486
I'll keep trying. Nothing in your post is particularly motivating but I feel it anyways. I'm in a big city of a few hundred thousand people and haven't met anyone who likes what I do but it's okay, I'll find keep trying. It's going to get a lot harder when I move to rural New England. Perhaps it will be easier? I like to think New Englanders are higher brow than the dirtyfolk of California. If it doesn't work out, I'm pretty comfortable already being a baby in my universe.

>> No.13258542

>>13251630
Fag
>>13251655
Chad
I wish someone would just nuke this fucking country.

>> No.13258546

>>13258526
okay then Daniel