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13242910 No.13242910 [Reply] [Original]

how the hell are they so good at writing

>> No.13242918

>>13242910
Maybe it's the drinking. If alcoholism is a prerequisite of being a writer, there's A LOT of Irishmen that are ready. More possible writers mean more possibilities of great writers.

>> No.13242932

Do anglos really consider the Irish subhuman or is it just a meme? If they really do so, why?

>> No.13242941

>>13242932
>If they really do so, why?
probably because ireland never became highly developed as england blocked all innovative ideas coming into ireland

>> No.13243023

>>13242932
No, it's an invention of the Irish themselves. They were quick to reserve their place on the grievance pyramid.

>> No.13243025

Misery makes for art

>> No.13243029

God invented whisky so the irish wouldn't take over the world.

>> No.13243031

>>13242932
Yes. The English are literally Nazis and need to pay reparations for their crimes against Eire

>> No.13243038

>>13242910
They're not, retard. What proportion of the Irish population do you think were good writers? <0.1%? Nations are not good at writing, individuals are.

>> No.13243048
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>>13243031
irelands population still hasn't recovered from the potato famine, which was caused by england

>> No.13243072

>>13242932
I've lived near Irish gypsies all my life. They're ALL fucking thieves and bullies. All of them. I once witnessed a couple 12-14 year old pikeys sexually assaulting an adult woman who was on the floor screaming. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is subhuman trash. The only race it's acceptable to be prejudiced against.

>> No.13243077

>>13243072
>gypsies
>HUH why are they acting like retards??

>> No.13243105

>>13242941
"England blocked all innovative ideas coming into Ireland."

That shouldn't stop the Irish from coming up with their own innovations.

>> No.13243681

>>13243031
Eire, Afrika and Bharat should've unified to kill the *nglo menace once and for all.

>> No.13243690

>>13242910
I want to say it has to do with their relationship and willingness to fuck around with English as opposed to the Brits, who (for me at least) seem to value a more crisp and neat aesthetic flavor as opposed to the wobbles you get in Joyce and Beckett

>> No.13243771

>>13242910
It's the Irish landscape. Literary value derives from physiocratic sources . It comes from the beauty of the land. No one is moved to write lyrically unless they are at first moved by the beauty of nature whether they realize it or not. Ireland has always appeared to be nestled away like a small gem (emerald isle) behind a veil of mist. It's quaint and quiet and cloudy and solitary and rainy and so naturally contemplative. Stark and melancholy landscapes call out to writers.

>> No.13243814

It's because we're related to fairies and there are no curse words so you have to get creative when someone steals your cow.

>> No.13244017

>>13243048
>which was caused by england
Do you have an actual degree in Meme History?

>> No.13244029

>>13243771
Listen carefully, and you'll hear Joyce's laughter ringing in your ears. He wrote the Aeolus chapter of Ulysses for people like you.

>> No.13244035

>>13242941
You were literally in the Stone Age before the English discovered you.

>> No.13244135

>>13244017
The famine is caused by the UK, he's right there. The blight knocked out the Irish staple food, but potatoes were not the only crop. They were just the only non cash crop. It was a couple of bumper years for corn and barley and wheat and everything else, but that all got shipped to England as tax and rent. The fact something like that was going to happen has been a source of major tension in parliament for ages beforehand, which is why the corn laws had been splitting the Tories since the century before and is in part why Burke was such a major political and economic force on the party and thus modern conservativism at large.
Not even him, but lmaoing at your meme degree

>> No.13244150

>>13244035
>Christian Church fathers raising eyebrows all across the afterlife
I think you mean the English were nothing until the Romans invaded and then nothing again until they re-established contact.

>> No.13244174

>>13242910
Read Yeats' The Celtic Twilight

>> No.13244250

it's that stupid Blarney Stone
they found a high-level magic artifact then started charging admission to use it, the mad lads

>> No.13244273

>>13242910
It's genetic. Culture is downstream of Biology.

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>>13243031

>> No.13244281
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>>13242932
Jealousy

>> No.13244285

>>13242932
“The British Prime Minister publicly refused to stop the Famine by the use of English ships. The British Prime Minister positively spread the Famine, by making the half-starved populations of Ireland pay for the starved ones. The common verdict of a coroner's jury upon some emaciated wretch was ‘Willful murder by Lord John Russell’: and that verdict was not only the verdict of Irish public opinion, but is the verdict of history. But there were those in influential positions in England who were not content with publicly approving the act, but publicly proclaimed the motive. The Times, which had then a national authority and respectability which gave its words a weight unknown in modern journalism, openly exulted in the prospect of a Golden Age when the kind of Irishman native to Ireland would be ‘as rare on the banks of the Liffey as a red man on the banks of the Manhattan.’”

—G. K. Chesterton

>> No.13244308

why didn't the starving potato's just go fishing? they are surrounded by an ocean.

>> No.13244350

We English pay, even now, the bitter smart of long
centuries of injustice to our neighbour Island. Injus-
tice, doubt it not, abounds ; or Ireland would not be
miserable. The Earth is good, bountifully sends food
and increase ; if man's unwisdom did not intervene
and forbid. It was an evil day when Strigul first
meddled with that people. He could not extirpate
them : could they but have agreed together, and ex-
tirpated him ! Violent men there have been, and
merciful ; unjust rulers, and just ; conflicting in a great
element of violence, these five wild centuries now; and
the violent and unjust have carried it, and we are come
to this. England is guilty towards Ireland ; and reaps
at last, in full measure, the fruit of fifteen generations
of wrong-doing.

But the thing we had to state here was our infer-
ence from that mournful fact of the thii'd Sanspotatoe,
— coupled with this other well-known fact that the
Irish speak a partially intelligible dialect of English,
and their fare across by steam is four-pence sterling !
Crowds of miserable Irish darken all our towns. The
wild Milesian features, looking false ingenuity, restless-
ness, unreason, misery and mockery, salute you on all
highways and byways. The English coachman, as he
whirls past, lashes the Milesian with his whip, curses
him with his tongue ; the Milesian is holding out his
hat to beg. He is the sorest evil this country has to
strive with. In his rags and laugliing savagery, he is
there to undertake all work that can be done by mere
strength of hand and back ; for wages that will pur-
chase him potatoes. He needs only salt for condi-
ment ; he lodges to his mind in any pighutch or dog-
hutch, roosts in outhouses ; and wears a suit of tatters,
the getting off and on of which is said to be a difficult
operation, transacted only in festivals and the higlitides
of the calendar. The Saxon man if he cannot work
on these terms, finds no work. He too may be igno-
rant ; but he has not sunk from decent manhood to
squalid apehood : he cannot continue there. Ameri-
can forests lie untilled across the ocean ; the uncivilised
Irishman, not by his strength but by the opposite of
strength, drives out the Saxon native, takes posses-
sion in his room. There abides he, in his squalor
and unreason, in his falsity and drunken violence, as
the ready-made nucleus of degradation and disorder.
>t. Carlyle

>>13244308
poor Irish potato farmers don't own boats, and it's doubtful they could fish enough...

>> No.13244384

>>13244250
It's not magic, it's a pikey trick to gain money. They only started charging to kiss it when they put up the signs saying "empty your pockets" because til then it paid for itself by just letting rich tourists empty their pockets to the ground below.

>> No.13244429

>>13244350
they are too jump to make a simple boat and a net? really?

>> No.13244431

>>13244281
>Irish as smart as Jews supposedly are
Why don't they run everything then?

>> No.13244438

>>13244431
They do, they just stay out of the spot light.

>> No.13244462

>>13244431
Running things is boring. You should focus on fucking and eating things while drunk.

>> No.13244471

>>13243105
could have something to do with the English stealing the land and murdering the Irish every chance they got.
>>13244035
Ireland was a beacon of light during Late Antiquity and the early Middle Ages, until the Norse burned the island to the fucking ground and stole everything they could get their filthy pagan hands on.

>> No.13244498

>>13244308
they'd need to steal boats and nets to have done that.

>> No.13244528

>>13244431
They are. Read protocols of the elders of Kerry and you'll see
In all seriousness I think there are a ton of Irish in wallstreet

>> No.13244554

>>13244431
There were a few images floating around for a while mocking /pol/ infographics by painting a massive Feynian conspiracy of the Irish pulling the strings of the Jews, and in America the Irish legitimately are fucking everywhere in finance and law

>> No.13244565

>>13244471
Whatever. I have quite a bit of Irish ancestry, quite a bit of English ancestry as well, and this is sounding like fake news.

>> No.13244697

>>13244350
Which Carlyl text is this from?

>> No.13244747
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>>13242910
Good question. I toured Trinity College Dublin the other week as a filthy tourist; my guide, a grad student, mentioned some nasty optional exam that sophomores could take if they felt up for it. If you pass, Trinity pays your room, board, everything, for the rest of your college career, even if you choose to stay for grad work. It's so fucking hard to pass that since they've had it only a few hundred have done it. Tour guide said he tried for French; he failed; the last person who passed in his subject was pic related in the 30s

>> No.13244763

>>13243072
Gypsies don't represent all Irish people. Don't worry, regular Irish people loath them just as much as everyone else, perhaps moreso.
t.Irishman

>> No.13244796

>>13244565
> this is sounding like fake news
what the part where the English raped Ireland repeatedly?
>Tudor conquest of Ireland
>Cromwell's invasion of Ireland
>Williamite War
or the part where the lion's share of early Medieval manuscripts and books were produced in Ireland or by monks trained in Ireland?

>> No.13244838

>>13242932
They were less developed than England, but mostly it's just rationalization of their colonization policy

>> No.13244849

>>13242932
they colonised them for centuries, the coloniser always has to appear superior to those it colonised, as such stereotypes help maintain such distinctions

>> No.13244977

>>13244838
To be fair, only the English like infrastructure. Most of the shit they put in is gone now. You don't really need trains or roads or water works or to talk to the next village.

>> No.13245127

>>13244697
Chartism

>> No.13245164

>>13244747
Holy fuck is if takes being a Samuel Beckett-tier level of French proficiency to pass it then no wonder everyone after him is basically just fucked in it

>> No.13245205

Someone hit me with a list of the essential Irish lit

>> No.13245326

>>13243072
You did nothing about it? who is the real trash? Them and you...

>> No.13245929

They aren't. Joyce, and...? A bunch of Anglos?
Even their best biographer (Frank Harris) was American raised.

>> No.13245940

>>13244554
>There were a few images floating around for a while mocking /pol/ infographics by painting a massive Feynian conspiracy
Yes, and that includes such people as Nixon (90% English, 10% scots-"irish", the Bushes (same) etc
The Irish really occupy no prominent place in America. We've had one Irish president since they started coming here during the potato famine.

>> No.13246000

>>13245929
what about the treats yeats and keats?

>> No.13246006

>>13246000
>yeats
anglo

>> No.13246137

>>13245929
>calling Swift an Anglo
Gets me every time, babyraper.

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13246183

>>13242932
yes

>> No.13246209

>>13244977 (you)

>> No.13246232

>>13242941
>Catholic backwardness (see: Portugal)
>Being an island next to the world's greatest fucking naval power

>> No.13246252

>>13246232
>the world's greatest fucking naval power
Isn't that the Dutch?

>> No.13246257

>>13246252
Yeah of course
fucking historical hipster

>> No.13246275

>>13246137
>An English protestant isn't an Anglo
lmao

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>>13244498
why can't they just make boats and nets? Are they really that dumb? I remember the Beothuck of newfoundland all starved to death because they lived inland where no animals lived despite being sorrunded by the largest cod fish reserves in the world because they couldn't make a boat.

Are the irish and beothuck really that dumb? apparently even the ancestors to the Australian aboriginals got to Australia using boats.

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>>13243105
>That shouldn't stop the Irish from coming up with their own innovations.
this picture represents all the countries in the world where a civilisation formed naturally on its own

where's england?

>> No.13246367

>>13246342
>why can't they just make boats and nets?
Because some lived inland and walking to the coast would take several days of starving hunger

Oh and the british banned fishing

>> No.13246380

>>13246367
>Oh and the british banned fishing
really? did they shoot potatos on sight? If they arrested them they would get food.

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>>13246380

>> No.13246514

the majority of them are literally anglos

>> No.13246536

>>13246275
>England is all Anglia
>Royalist prods are welcome in England
>Being born and dying in Ireland doesn't count
>Forget about Lilliput being in Ireland and the hospital he founded being there too
Sounds legit, like Hitler not being Austrian.

>> No.13246547

>>13246380
>If they arrested them they would get food.
anon, I don't think you're getting the mood between the two parties. they thought shipping people off to australia without adequate food or water or sanitation was a reduced sentence. they weren't planning on suddenly handing over the meat because you tried to poach fish.

>> No.13246598

>>13243771
Just like Wilde in London, or Joyce in Switzerland, or Beckett in Paris

>> No.13246723

>>13246547
>without adequate
Clearly is was adequate as the Aussies didn't starve on the boat and we have to deal with them today.

>> No.13246838

>>13246723
No being pregnant was a way to reduce the sentences as was being loli because no Brits wanted to send their daughters to the surface of the sun. Transport to Oz largely existed so colonies could take hold with anchor babies.

>> No.13248019

>>13245164
If Beckett was so good at French, what gives the story of him switching to it to write because he was less good at it?

>> No.13248037

>>13243681
Irish people are literally the anglo in anglo saxon

>> No.13248073

>>13248037
Angloes are Germanik, Eire is Celtic, eejit

>> No.13248130

>>13248073
No, saxon is the germanic tribe, anglo refers to the great britian constituents of anglo saxon

>> No.13248201

>>13246183
He wasn’t actually Irish though.

>> No.13248289

>>13248130
who are the Angles?

>> No.13248293

>>13248289
are you fucking ESL or what

>> No.13248300

>>13244029
Joyce is shit

>> No.13248526

>>13248293
Not him but >>13248130 is seriously pants on head retarded syntax. (It's also geographically and historically inaccurate, but that's to be expected with ESL.)

>> No.13248544

>>13244285
That makes sense under the Malthusian ideas of the time.

>> No.13249014

>>13242910
examples pls

>> No.13249052

>>13242910
>write drunk, edit sober

>>13249014
>Once upon a time and a very good time it was there was a moo-cow coming down along the road and this moo-cow that was coming down along the road met a nicens little boy named baby tuckoo...

>> No.13249960

>>13243771
t. Jared Diamond

>> No.13249981

>>13246367
why didn't the british just ban starving as well since the boot licking irish seemed to heed all the other laws

>> No.13251064

>>13248130
this is the stupidest thing I've read in months.

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13251090

What's the big deal, silly boys?

>> No.13251138

my thought is that, as a culture, they value storytelling.
in much the same way as the krauts and nips value logic, and so they are known for good engineering and infrastructure, the potatoes value storytelling.
I cannot defend this idea, but believe it to be true.

>> No.13251147

>>13249981
They did, that's why the Works commissioner got fired when people died from unpaid wages.

>> No.13251233
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13251233

The average Irishman with the "artistic" temperament is a useless piece of garbage, trapped forever in a maudlin sheol potentiated by alcohol and self-pity. He is a labyrinth of internal contradictions, having no use for rationality, virtue, or restraint in any form. Along with his woman, labile termagent that she is, he is more disposed to debilitating mental illness and personality disarray than any other being on Earth, including the semisentient ones.

When you add in a genius IQ, however, along with a few key life events that can "flip the [creative]" switch, you get some of the most prolific and perplexing geniuses ever to make art. Not only is writing an effortless pastime for this virtuoso, but it is also substantiated by his own psyche. A priceless subject matter exists within his very body: the chaos of Eire rages inside him, making his highs stratospheric and his lows Abbadonic. He is, in a word, erumpent - other lands may have their poets and storytellers, but none can challenge that anarchic creativity which inheres in his doomed Irish soul. He is one of a kind.

>> No.13251506

>>13244977
>We need imperialism to acquire these things
>>13244838
Wow, it’s like you just summed up the entirety of the Western racist tradition.

>> No.13251609

>>13251506
>>We need imperialism to acquire these things
No, the implication was clearly
>We need neither imperialism nor these things

>> No.13251624

The English and Irish are as far apart from each other as the Swedes are from Danes, yet conduct their relations with such an amazing bitterness. Maybe you should both be a little less butthurt.

>> No.13251636

>>13251624
>Jutes trying to limit their culpability for another invasion
This is why Greenland never listens to you.

>> No.13251660

>>13251636
Violent conquest is a morally neutral action

>> No.13251675

>>13251660
So's freezing to death in a snow bank, it still fucks up the plough.

>> No.13251992

>>13251138

This is seemingly the most valid answer in the thread coming from an Irish American with an off-the-boat father

>> No.13252074

>>13242910
We do too much thinking and end up drinking.
We invented modern Philosophy too, according to Hegel.

>> No.13252092

>>13252074
I heard Freudians consider us immune to psychoanalysis, by way of Anthony Burgess.

>> No.13252109

>>13244431
Irish and Jewish aren't nationalities, they're psychological states.

>> No.13252114

>>13252109
Who are you to water down Behan from his intended percentage volume? It's a psychosis.

>> No.13252127

>>13248019
>Is Beckett really trying to be a dick
Yes he is. It didn't come as naturally to him like Joyce, but he is really trying.

>> No.13252130

>>13252092
That explains the terrible mental health services.
>>13252114
Voice to text. I am a brain in a jar.

>> No.13252138

They stole our land so we stole their language.

>> No.13252146

>>13252130
>That explains the terrible mental health services
And why we used confine more people in them than any other country. Saints, Scholars, and Schizophrenics is a classic if you want to read about people offing themselves in Kerry.

>> No.13252178

>>13252146
cheers.
Jonathan Swift was a nutter too.

>> No.13252205

>>13252178
He set up a hospital because he knew he was going to be a mad bastard when he got older so he set aside most of his estate to get it done despite his impending madness. All his friends contested the hospital fund but they eventually agreed he'd meant it a few years after he died, when the hospital was not very much use to him. It's still there, but called St Patrick's Hospital now.

>> No.13252257

I am come of the seed of the people, the people that sorrow,
That have no treasure but hope,
No riches laid up but a memory
Of an Ancient glory.
My mother bore me in bondage, in bondage my mother was born,
I am of the blood of serfs;
The children with whom I have played, the men and women with whom I have eaten,
Have had masters over them, have been under the lash of masters,
And, though gentle, have served churls;
The hands that have touched mine, the dear hands whose touch is familiar to me,
Have worn shameful manacles, have been bitten at the wrist by manacles,
Have grown hard with the manacles and the task-work of strangers,
I am flesh of the flesh of these lowly, I am bone of their bone,
I that have never submitted;
I that have a soul greater than the souls of my people's masters,
I that have vision and prophecy and the gift of fiery speech,
I that have spoken with God on the top of His holy hill.
And because I am of the people, I understand the people,
I am sorrowful with their sorrow, I am hungry with their desire:
My heart has been heavy with the grief of mothers,
My eyes have been wet with the tears of children,
I have yearned with old wistful men,
And laughed or cursed with young men;
Their shame is my shame, and I have reddened for it,
Reddened for that they have served, they who should be free,
Reddened for that they have gone in want, while others have been full,
Reddened for that they have walked in fear of lawyers and of their jailors
With their writs of summons and their handcuffs,
Men mean and cruel!
I could have borne stripes on my body rather than this shame of my people.
And now I speak, being full of vision;
I speak to my people, and I speak in my people's name to the masters of my people.
I say to my people that they are holy, that they are august, despite their chains,
That they are greater than those that hold them, and stronger and purer,
That they have but need of courage, and to call on the name of their God,
God the unforgetting, the dear God that loves the peoples
For whom He died naked, suffering shame.
And I say to my people's masters: Beware,
Beware of the thing that is coming, beware of the risen people,
Who shall take what ye would not give.
Did ye think to conquer the people,
Or that Law is stronger than life and than men's desire to be free?
We will try it out with you, ye that have harried and held,
Ye that have bullied and bribed, tyrants, hypocrites, liars!

>You all have no idea about the half of it.

>> No.13252397

>>13244429
Go, you, and build a seaworthy ship and weave a sail and make a net and sail out (you know how to sail a ship of course) and catch some fish. I will not allow you any food until you do all those things.
Idiot...

>> No.13252455

>>13252397
Under heavy police presence and exile or death penalty as punishment.

>> No.13252589

>>13252397
>weave a sail
To be fair to anon, he could have meant a currach. You can make most Irish boats with one person being lazy for a week. Ireland's got famous linen weavers precisely because they know what a bitch it is to make things from flax. You can make a boat much faster than a sail.

>> No.13252716

>>13243025
based and redpilled

>> No.13253280

>>13243025
>Misery makes for art
then what the hell is sub-saharan africa's excuse?

>> No.13253287

>>13244431
they're obsessed with poetry, not money

>> No.13253292 [DELETED] 

Unrelated, but what’s the word that is defined as pointing out someone’s mannerisms/body language/face to know if you’re a virgin? For example, your <smart word> blah blah

>> No.13253293

>>13253280
They lack the intelligence.

>> No.13254513

>>13242932
of coursed not

>> No.13254607

>>13242941
>It tell ya Patrick it's da Teutons keepin' us doon!

>> No.13254623

>>13253280
Fela Kuti

>> No.13254889

>>13254607
genocides don't count huh

>> No.13254910

Who are good Irish authors to read?

>> No.13255035

>>13254910
Flannery O’Connor
*trollface*

>> No.13255053

>>13254910
The best is obviously Edmund Burke. :3

Don’t listen to anyone else telling you otherwise. Edmund Burke is a legit political philosopher to read, along with Tocqueville and Schumpeter.

Schumpeter was a great political philosopher, having read Pareto and others informed by his indifference curve analysis, drawing the correct conclusions from it as he should, and correctly interpreting, down to a technical detail, how everything actually functions. He also understood the petulance of The Communist Manifesto, while still entertaining a functional communist state.

But he was a terrible economist.

But this post isn’t about Schumpeter, it should be about Edmund. Yeah, Mr. Burke was very intelligent and, like Schumpeter with The Communist Manifesto, held correct ideas about the petulance of the French Revolution :3

>> No.13255150

>>13242910
Average irish is subhuman. Doesn't make up for the fact that one or two of them wrote something good.

>> No.13255203

>>13248130
ango = german
saxon = french
irish = celtic
>>>/his/

>> No.13255257

>>13244747
Think he was plastic paddying you lad.

My ex passed it. The exams are called "skolls", it's a sweet deal, but nearly everyone who passes it ends up quitting it and going to Cambridge or Oxford.

>> No.13255265

>>13244747
>who passed in his subject

Sorry Lad, missed that entirely.
In French, that's entirely possible that Beckett was last.

>> No.13255272

>>13255265
>>13255257
>>13244747


Just to close this out if you're interested it's "schols" for scholars. Sorry, I'm Russian and was there on exchange.

Here you can read all about it:

http://www.tcdlife.ie/scholars/scholar/about-faq.php

>> No.13256907

>>13242910
Because they have a strong oral culture.

>> No.13258492

>>13255053
>The best is obviously Edmund Burke. :3
cuck

>> No.13258502

>>13258492
Edmund Burke was certainly the greatest Ireland had to offer you fool. You most likely appreciate some poet or playwright. Little did you know Plato was right on the money about Fiction. :3

>> No.13258681

>>13242932

They're Catholic, therefore the enemy, at least according to Cromwell.

>> No.13258885

>>13245940
No Jewish presidents either.

>> No.13259013

>>13243072
Irish Travellers/Gypsies are genetically distinct and a separate culture from regular Irish people

>> No.13259019

>>13243038
nationlet cope

>> No.13259049

>>13258885
>1.7% of the population
I wonder why anon

>> No.13259110

>>13259013
Yeah but you're relying on anon to be able to tell a trackie from a pikey in the first place.

>> No.13259193

>>13259049
Proportionality doesn't usually apply to Jews. But I predict we get a Jewish president pretty soon.

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13259232

>>13242932
The Jews bred Irish women with African slaves to increase the value of the children who would also be sold into slavery.
Read: The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews by Louis Farrakhan

>> No.13259262

>>13259232
No

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>>13259262
t. Ir*sh

>> No.13259316

>>13259193
>I predict we get a Jewish president pretty soon

Pfft, not as long as elections remain a popularity contest. Jews are autistic enough to think that their ideas matter more thant heir personal presentation. Look at Bernie Sanders, looks like he bought his suit at Sears and slept in it for 30 years straight. Doesn't know how to comb his hair, etc. Not to mention their genetic inability to stand up straight.

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13259365

it seems that if it were not kept down economically by england, ireland would have become a powerhouse

>> No.13259377

>>13242941
the anglo was always keepin the hibernian man down

>> No.13259378

>>13253280
>implying they weren't living in bliss in their homogeneous tribe

>> No.13259380

>>13255053
take your whore and commit suicide please

>> No.13259426

>>13253280
literacy for one, maybe,
I guess they never miss, huh

>> No.13259438

>>13259365
>the tiger years were an improvement
No we still managed to be miserable then.

>> No.13259509

>>13242910
Mexicans?

>> No.13259972

beer, rain, ugly girls

and the are writing in english

>> No.13260020

>>13255203
Saxons are also German, angles are more northern German/jutlandic

>> No.13260096

>>13259019
It just makes no sense to say that a nation is good at writing when 99.9% of the population arent good writers. This type of nationalist reasoning only seems intuitive to people because you've been indoctrinated with statist propaganda all your life. Literally nothing but the state under which you live ties you to a nations people. Even the accents and cultures vary within a nation. What relation do alabamians and californians have apart from living under the US federal government? Yet a writer from Alabama and a writer from California will still be reckoned under "American writers". It's vacuous.

>> No.13260152

>>13244431
>implying

>> No.13260160

>>13260096
Dripping with soi.

>> No.13260787

>>13259365
The Irish have been incompetent forever its not the English's fault

>> No.13260869

>tfw lived in North Dublin my whole life
>people on /lit/ talk about how great you supposedly are
>tfw apathetic and uncreative, feeling nothing like what >>13243771 >>13251138 >>13251233 say
Might as well jump into the liffey

>> No.13260873

>>13260160
ughh yeah it's so manly to take pride in what other people have done

>> No.13260883

>>13260869
Just do what all Irish do and drink yourself to death

>> No.13260891

>>13260873
Renounce your surname then and go live alone in the woods, turbo autist

>> No.13261004

>>13260891
Yeah okay keep masking your failures with the successes of men greater than you and keep thinking you're great because you come from the same land as Joyce while calling anyone who points out how ridiculous this is an emasculated onions drinker. God you're so manly.

>> No.13261561

>>13253287
>they're obsessed with poetry
then why are all "their" poets fucking anglos

>> No.13261654

>>13244135
Also Souperism. Anglos could have easily stopped the famine but didn't.

>> No.13262296

>>13260787
>Literally prevent European intellectual collapse during the Dark Ages
>Most of it's Monks bring Christianity and learning to savages across Northern Europe
>Incompetent

Sure thing.

>> No.13262604

>>13244174
maximum /comfy/

>> No.13262613

>>13244429
starvation scrambles your brain, not the ideal time to be teaching yourself the nautical and angling arts

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>>13244431
They do
>>13244554
It's not a joke, the Mick Menace must be dealt with