/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13229640]

>when you realize that you share the same board with monolinguals

[Anonymous No.13229696]

Most people who make threads like these have a barely functional level of english

[Anonymous No.13229699]

>there are people who feel superior for memorizing things
feels good to be born into the language anything that matters will be translated to

>b-but muh prose
meaningful ideas can be translated in the spatial structure of reality and are more fundamental and beautiful that way. people who can't think like that have nothing to do but fixate on rhyming or whatever of the arbitrary labels they substitute for ideas

[Anonymous No.13229715]

>>13229696
Is that how you people cope?

[Anonymous No.13229722]

friendly reminder knowing your mother tongue plus english doesn't make you any more special than monolinguals.

[Anonymous No.13229735]

>Yuros patting themselves on the back for knowing their mother tongue + English. Unless you went out of your way to learn a language and it wasn't in school it doesn't count

[Anonymous No.13229743]

>>13229722
friendly reminder knowing your mother tongue plus language in the same language family doesn't make you any more special than monolinguals.

[Anonymous No.13229744]

The majority of English speakers can also speak Gibberish, so there's that.

[Anonymous No.13229763]

Reminder that if you didn't start with the Greeks and in their original language and continued through the entire canon only in the language of the author you are not /lit/ and shouldn't be posting here

[Anonymous No.13229769]

Friendly reminder to water your plants

[Anonymous No.13229771]

>>13229640
¿Qué?

[Anonymous No.13229784]

>>13229743
How far apart does it have to be for you to be cool? I know languages that are both "Indo" and "European" but nothing outside the senpai :((

[Anonymous No.13229786]

>>13229722
>>13229735
>he doesn't realize most euros learn at least one other language next to English
t. Belgian fluent in Dutch, French, English, and German

[Anonymous No.13229788]

>>13229699
>meaningful ideas can be translated in the spatial structure of reality
Whoah like making sculptures of ideas? Pls explan

[Anonymous No.13229790]

>>13229786
Also learned Latin in school

[Anonymous No.13229794]

>>13229769
Ye

[Anonymous No.13229797]

>>13229640
>bilinguals and trilinguals
Literally the most disgusting people ever. If you don’t have at least 4 languages you’re scum.

[Anonymous No.13229805]

>>13229786
>belgian fluent in both dutch and french
as my belgian friend would say, "enkuler 2 rire"

[Anonymous No.13229807]

>>13229788
reality consists of sculptures

[Anonymous No.13229822]

>>13229797
this

[Anonymous No.13229825]

>>13229699
Nigga your newspeak is gonna lose its cultural hegemony sooner than you'd like

[Anonymous No.13229829]

>>13229797
Based and occultpilled

[Anonymous No.13229833]

>>13229797
>not knowing at least five languages
kek

[Anonymous No.13229843]

>>13229640
It won't help, burgers don't even understand they talk to people from other countries.

[Anonymous No.13229847]

>>13229825
poltard

[Anonymous No.13229851]

>>13229640
>The Plebeians don't think by dialectic

[Anonymous No.13229856]

>>13229851
>I constantly have a variety of voices conversing within my head of multiple conversations at once in multiple languages at once, hah m..must suck to be you

[Anonymous No.13230213]

>>13229825
not to the europeans jerking themselves off about learning each other's useless languages. maybe to asians that are currently still learning english to communicate with the rest of the world

[Anonymous No.13230230]

>>13229797
>he doesn't know at least 6 languages

[Anonymous No.13230273]

>know English, Spanish, French, Latin, Turkish, and some Korean
>when im not studying one im reinforcing the others
>have no time for anything else
at least im doing s-something with my time while /neet/, r-right?

[Anonymous No.13230323]

>>13229640
>half ass duolingo course
>tell people I know that language

[Anonymous No.13230341]

>>13229805
Some people in the Flemish part actually take French seriously, unlike those freeloading bastards in Wallonia.

[Anonymous No.13230364]

>>13229640
Feels bad but also makes me notice that at least IRL not a single of my friends or close family member speaks under four languages, sans my silly sister who's at three.

>>13229696
Still better than nothing, brainlet-kun.

>>13229699
DAT COPE

>>13229735
>knowing something doesn't count because you grew into it
I don't even.

[Anonymous No.13230391]

>>13230364
If you only know the languages you know because you were forced to learn them for social reasons, they don’t count. Independent academic study is the only valid way to add languages to your total.

Here in America many of my academic friends and I know 3+ languages, far more impressive than Europeans who count English and German to their totals when they learn them solely for political reasons. Pathetic, to be honest.

[Anonymous No.13230393]

>>13229640
bazowany i wielojęzykowy

[Anonymous No.13230399]

>tfw balkan
>tfw say i'm fluent in 4 languages

[Anonymous No.13230400]

>>13229640
If the only language you speak other than your mother tongue is english then you're not really bilingual.

[Anonymous No.13230407]

>>13230391
>they don’t count.
Why the fuck not? You're still able to use the language, whether you learned it because you wanted to LARP as someone who uses it or because your environment forced you to learn it. At best you can argue that it's more impressive to learn a language without the right environment, which is obviously true.

Though then, what about special cases like kids of immigrants, who barely use their native languages away from home and had to work on it almost as hard as someone who started from scratch?

[Anonymous No.13230409]

Wtf does monolingual mean, I don't speak Greek

[Anonymous No.13230487]

>>13230400
That is correct, English doesn't have the grammatical and syntactical complexity of a real language. It's more like a loose collection of stolen words.

[Anonymous No.13230558]

>>13229640
Unironically i hate it that english has come to be the lingua franca, instead of French or even German. English has got to be one of the most unintelligent, ugly and simplistic languages to have ever existed in european grounds. It's quite literally the bastard child of germanic languages and french, with some latin sprinkled on top. There are no rules what so ever on pronunciation and in it's entirety the language is displeasing. There is literally nothing special about it appart from the fact that it's really hard to pronounce when you first learn it. We should just revive latin already as a lingua franca, that's how it was done for centuries and that's how it should be done.

[Anonymous No.13230559]

>>13230407
it doesnt count retard

[Anonymous No.13230563]

>>13230487
Actually I meant because you learned it because you had to to not be considered an idiot.

[Anonymous No.13230585]

so anglos are nonlingual?

[Anonymous No.13230618]

all analytic languages belong in the bin

[Anonymous No.13230631]

>>13229699
>>13229722
>>13229735
>>13229743
>>13230391
Imagine being this american

[Anonymous No.13230678]

>>13230558
>There is a speech of Macbeth, in which he doubts that his hands could ever be clean again—if he washed them, they would turn “the multitudinous seas incarnadine, making the green one red.” I have long taken this as a sampling of what makes English—and Shakespeare—so great: the presence of two distinct streams of diction, one polysyllabic, Mediterranean, and classical, the other brief, blunt, and Saxon.

[Anonymous No.13230692]

>>13230558
>It's quite literally the bastard child of germanic languages and french, with some latin sprinkled on top.
this is precisely what makes it so great you retard. fuck off with your "muh purity" cope.

[Anonymous No.13230704]

i do fear that english is too ubiquitous to not be controlled and therefore hinders my awareness of the world. which of your languages is the least cucked?

[Anonymous No.13230709]

>>13230631
Only American bilinguals count as bilingual.

[Anonymous No.13230732]

>>13230709
this
america is the only relevant first world country and nothing is more cucked than learning english

[Anonymous No.13230747]

>>13230732
>first world country
>have literal nigger wars in chicago and in other american shitholes
>every day a shooting
>10% of the population, 40 million of mutts on food stamps

Yeah, first world...

[Anonymous No.13230761]

>>13230747
okay but seriously which of your languages is the least cucked i don't want to only know english in case english is censored

[Anonymous No.13230765]

>>13229640
Friendly reminder that is English isn't your FIRST and ONLY language YOU.ARE.NOT.WHITE

[Anonymous No.13230795]

Why would I learn how to speak another language if that requires talking to another human to practice? Sure, I know how to read and understand Spanish...but what's the point of speaking-- even writing in a foreign tongue?

[Anonymous No.13230903]

>>13230747
seething secondoid
go deal with your mudslime problem

[Anonymous No.13231019]

>>13230692
The problem isn't that it isn't pure, but a million random words stiched together parading as a language

[Anonymous No.13231054]

>>13229640
>there are people on this board that don't communicate entirely through tics, electrical noise and guttural screams
skt skt vsst ktshhh GNARGH

[Anonymous No.13231124]

>>13230323
>hey anon say something in that language!!

[Anonymous No.13231133]

>>13230391
this can only be bait.

[Anonymous No.13231138]

>>13231054
ugggt pfffllrrrr OOOOAAEEEAAA hhhht

[Anonymous No.13231140]

>>13231124
je suis allez a la toilet

[Anonymous No.13231143]

>>13230563
imagine getting mad and replying seriously to that joke
lmao americans outting themselves way too easily

[Anonymous No.13231153]

>>13231054
>tsk wee rrah
mee tut tree bah bah brrr

[Anonymous No.13231162]

>>13230704
ancient greek and latin

[Anonymous No.13231167]

>>13230765
It's OK to be black Jamal. Please do not shoot me.

[Anonymous No.13231385]

>tfw knows greek and german while learning latin in university
Κόψτε τον ελιτισμό, σας kάνει να φαίνεστε περισσότερο βλάkες απ'ότι συνήθως

[Anonymous No.13231484]

>>13229743
This.
>ooh i know 3 languages lol so educated
>french english and spanish dude!
english and french have a 30% overlap, and spanish is just french with a different accent.

[Anonymous No.13231490]

at what point of learning another language can you say you know it?

i just say i'm intermediate in [x].

[Anonymous No.13231502]

>>13231490
you need to have written an epic poem in that language

[Anonymous No.13231505]

>>13231484
>Spanish is just french with a different accent

lmao no

Italian or Portuguese maybe but French is much more similar to English and even then French is much more difficult to learn than Spanish for a native Enlish speaker

[Anonymous No.13231513]

>>13231505
Italian or Spanish being similar to Spanish, not French. Catalan is the most similar European language to French.

[Anonymous No.13231522]

>>13231505
>start learning french
>[word] in french is literally just the english word with a frog accent, or maybe an extra e
lmao. try learning an actual foreign language like mandarin and then get back to me. oooh sacre bleu, tres dificile!

[Anonymous No.13231566]

>>13231522
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1bi2YoRG31B

[Anonymous No.13231568]

>>13229640
Бaзoвo и кpacнoтaблeтoчнo. Дyмaю, знaя, нaпpимep, pyccкий или фpaнцyзcкий, нeoбхoдимo знaть и aнглийcкий, хoтя бы чтoбы чyвcтвoвaть ceбя чeлoвeкoм. B тo жe вpeмя, нe пoнимaю, кaк мoжнo жить в нaции мaкдoнaльдca, читaть фикшн и, знaя тoлькo aнглийcкий, нe знaть хoтя бы oдин из вeликих литepaтypных языкoв (тoт жe фpaнцyзcкий), или кaк мoжнo читaть aнглийcкиe пepeвoды нeмeцких филocoфoв. Бoжe, плeбизм дeйcтвитeльнo нe знaeт гpaниц.

[Anonymous No.13231579]

>>13231566
shut up. moron

[Anonymous No.13231584]

>>13231579
lmao he talks shit about european languages and can't understand basic sentences from the simplest one HAHAHA

[Anonymous No.13231813]

What method do you prefer to learn languages? Are you self taught, did you go to an academy, or what?

[Anonymous No.13231833]

English is the literally the only language you need to know. Debate me.

[Anonymous No.13231847]

>>13231813
i learned italian by myself with duolingo + a bit of grammar, however, I speak portuguese natively so it was easy. Now I'm trying to learn german through immersion, that is, forcing my way through a book and texts.
My daily routine is
>15% of study time reading German for Reading
50% reading books/texts
>35% anki
let's wait and see the results after a few months of this

[Anonymous No.13231859]

>>13231568
> плeбизм
Плeбeйcтвo.

[Anonymous No.13231873]

>>13231847
I've heard that duolingo is a bit of a meme. Would you endorse it as a decent way to learn another language? I'm a native Spanish speaker himself who would like to get acquaintanced with French and Portuguese, so I might have not have a hard time grasping those.

[Anonymous No.13231941]

>>13231873
well, the one thing I've learned learning a new language by myself is that vocabulary is much more important than grammar rules and whatever else. That said, if you use duolingo as the only resource, you'll finish it and you'll struggle a bit to read and quite a lot to write/talk, so it might be enough to 'get acquainted' but not nearly enough to get close to fluency. I'd suggest coupling a bit of reading + anki everyday (the words you don't know you add later on to anki).
This is why I'm learning german this way.

[Anonymous No.13231950]

>>13231833
>tfw you can't debate an established fact!

[Anonymous No.13231954]

Been thinking of learning french for the hell of it but see almost no practical use for it but thats probably my cucked utilitarian angloid mindset setting in.

[Anonymous No.13231958]

>>13231941
I have never heard of anki before. What is it and how do I use to my benefit, if you wouldn't mind telling me?
Also, how many hours a day do you dedicate to your studies?

[Anonymous No.13231963]

>>13231954
I doubt I'll ever use it irl, but I'll try to read comics, books and watch movies in French. Honestly, I just want to learn to feed my own ego.

[Anonymous No.13231979]

>>13231859
этo нe oшибкa, изм мoжнo тaк oбpaзoвaть, нe пизди мнe тyт

[Anonymous No.13231998]

>>13231958
with italian I did like 30min of duolingo a day, I finished the duolingo in like 2 months and could read newspaper looking some words up and could understand some videos reasonably well. With german I'm doing 1h a day.
Anki is a tool to help you study whatever. You can use it in many dofferent ways. I add german words and their meanings in english, so that the "deck" of words keeps growing (you can add words any time). Then I start a studying session in anki. It shows a word, you try to remember it, then you click show result and rate how hard it was to remember it, so the Anki starts to filter out easy words so they show up less often and hard words shows up more often, so this way you don't lose time with what you already know.

[Anonymous No.13232012]

>>13231998
Thanks a lot for answering me; I'll follow your method and see where it takes me.

[Anonymous No.13232035]

>>13229640
There is no good excuse for first worlders to know only one language in this day and age. Americans better start learning to speak Spanish with how broke ass spic like to breed like rabbits.

[Anonymous No.13232093]

>>13232012
to put my points concisely: I'm not one of those that hate duolingo, it's a fine tool and might be enough for your goals, however, if you use duolingo as a main way to lear I suggest doing the reading+anki as a complement, I'm sure it will increase your learning speed.
I learned italian 90% with duolingo and I'm about to start a book in italian and will do the same thing as with german to improve my italian: don't know word?
>circle it
>write meanint next to it
>when finish reading, add to anki
good luck

[Anonymous No.13232116]

>>13231979
Try googling "плeбизм" (do not copy corrupted word from this page).

[Anonymous No.13232141]

>>13232035
>be american
>learned japanese and farsi instead
would like to do russian next
I should learn Spanish but I just dont care.

[Anonymous No.13232161]

>>13232093
Thanks again; I'll try.

[Anonymous No.13232163]

>Bilinguals think they're special
>Brazilian Portuguese
>Danish
>American English
Only reply if you're not a filthy bilingual/monolingual

[Anonymous No.13232165]

>>13231873
Mate I’m a native Spanish speaker as well who picked up french on a whim like a year and a half ago. Basically I didn’t know how to learn it on my own so it was kind of trying things and continuing what I felt worked the best for me. I started with duolingo, finished the tree (4 hours a day) then started listening to some music and I realised I could pick up some words, basic text books like kids stuff. Then I got myself Alter ego A2, it was too easy and I wanted a challenged so skipped to B1. Learnt a lot, 5 hours a day, finished that and now I’m really caught up with work but I can watch movies, read (I read Dorian grey in french) and although I sometimes miss some things I’m on a decent level. I figure if I moved to a francophone country I would be fluent in 6-8 months, but rarely get the chance to speak it, it’s a really simple language for hispanohablantes and if you really want to you can get to B2 in around a year.

[Anonymous No.13232174]

>>13230678
Based review.

[Anonymous No.13232223]

>>13231833
if you ok with read translated shit, then you need to know one any language, but then you step on the way of anglo-american trash mind set

[Anonymous No.13232920]

Het is catastrofaal godverdomme!
C'est catastrophale!
Das is eine Schanden verdammt!

[Anonymous No.13232926]

>>13229786
Aaaah ik ben hier dan toch niet alleen.

[Anonymous No.13234105]

>>13229640
TFW you share a board with TFW-posters

[Anonymous No.13234120]

>>13229640
At least they know how to write in English. I suck at it and I'm part of the cancer that is killing 4 chan right now.

[Anonymous No.13234173]

Damn, Anglos are really showing their insecurities in this thread.

[Anonymous No.13234260]

>>13230559
>it doesnt count
doesn't count on what?

[Anonymous No.13234278]

>>13229786
>Indo-European """"""""languages"""

[Anonymous No.13234955]

To what degree does learning more than two non-dead languages help you at a cognitive-creative level (besides the obvious memorization skills, real-life utility and ability to write in other languages)? Is the brain of a person who speaks, say, english, spanish, japanese, korean and german, superior in a practical way to the brain of a spanish-english bilingual?

[Anonymous No.13234970]

>when you realize that you share the same board with monolinguals and smug bilinguals
if you don't read at least four languages fluently and speak them semi-fluently, you're not going to make it

[Anonymous No.13235953]

>>13229722
If you're suggesting that your mother tongue "doesn't count", then shouldn't it follow that, if English is your mother tongue, it "doesn't count" either?

Does that mean people who can only speak English are nonlinguals?

[Anonymous No.13235961]

>>13229640
my speaking english proves that I'm not. I live in western europe.

[Anonymous No.13235970]

>>13230761
can one of you irrelevant faggots please tell me which of your languages has the least censorship?

[Anonymous No.13235971]

>>13229640
Yo hablo español, puta

[Anonymous No.13235974]

>>13229786
Nog een luie latinist zo te zien. Hou jezelf niet voor de gek, dat jaartje Duits maakt je geen polyglot.

[Anonymous No.13236165]

>>13235974
Ik volg al jaren extra cursussen Duits voor mijn studies die vereisen dat ik in het Duits citeer.

[Anonymous No.13236179]

>>13236165
Studeer je (westerse) filosofie ofzo dan? Geschiedenis zou ook kunnen toegegeven.

[Anonymous No.13236204]

>>13236179
Ja, doe een PhD met een focus op Duits idealisme.

[Anonymous No.13236206]

How long does it take to read a foreign language without aids?

[Anonymous No.13236207]

>>13229640
ええ、ここはたくさんバカ

[Anonymous No.13236214]

>>13236206
Just use condoms and you'll be fine forever

[Anonymous No.13236228]

>play pokemon as a child
>breeze through english in HS and apllying the knowlegde in uni

English is real easy, if you can play pokemon in the English language, you are already fluent

[Anonymous No.13236312]

Sometimes I forget that I share an empire with you foreign whores. Oh well, at least we keep you in line. Remember to kiss the flag on your way out, fag.

[Anonymous No.13236395]

>>13236204
al een idee wat je hierna gaat doen? ben zelf ook aan het denken om filosofie te beginnen in antwerpen/leuven. Ben momenteel bezig m'n STEM-diploma af te ronden zodat ik uit die hel kan vluchten naar de wereld van ideeën. dat is tenminste de abstract van de toekomst die ik in m'n hoofd heb opgesteld. Misschien sta ik een jaar later mezelf te haten in een of ander biologisch labo.

[Anonymous No.13236408]

>>13229640
That's another reason to rangeban Americans

[Anonymous No.13236420]

>>13230732
>>13230747
>be American
>walk outside
>get shot
>doctors remove the bullet
>at a minimum cost of $20k

[Anonymous No.13236423]

>>13236408
If you rangebanned Americans, you wouldn’t be able to see the beautiful romance of butterfly and :3face.

[Anonymous No.13236438]

>>13236312
kek the entire planet despises your flag my friend

[Anonymous No.13236516]

> He doesn't know a regional language spoken by less than 3M people.

I know galician, english, spanish and portuguese and a bit of german. Learning french atm.

[Anonymous No.13236568]

>>13236420
>be yuropean
>walk outside
>get raped by mudslim
>take him to court
>get sued for religious discrimination and go to a reeducation camp for intolerant bigots

[Anonymous No.13236572]

>>13236516
Keep up the good work, gallego; we need to preserve those languages.

[Anonymous No.13236579]

Based on literature what's the best language to learn so I can read the most useful works in native tongue

[Anonymous No.13236806]

>>13236579
there's no best, pick a language you like, it's the only way to stay motivated. pretty much any language you pick will have enough good literature to keep you busy for a very good while

[Anonymous No.13237361]

>>13236438
i don't think there's ever been a more impotent hate

[Anonymous No.13237528]

Reminder that if you speak English as a second language, you don't speak English. Your grammar is poor, I don't say anything only because I'm polite, and because your lapses into pidgin are occasionally endearing. Your vocabulary is limited due to all the non-English words you know, making you sound more akin to a schoolchild than an educated adult. By necessity you learn most of your English through popular culture, or fiction such as Harry Potter that is a rallying point of the lowest common denominator monolingual English speakers (which you, hypocritically, yet criticise for their poor taste and lack of erudition). And with your accent, you will never have correct pronunciation. I want you to imagine a North American speaking your mother tongue, and recall how stupid they often sound. That's you trying to speak English, a language that I never asked you to learn, but that I have known from birth, and that you have been forced to learn by forces beyond your control, and judging by your shrill complaints, apparently without your consent.

[Anonymous No.13237680]

>>13236395
>al een idee wat je hierna gaat doen?
Basically, nee. Ik doe deze PhD eigenlijk ook alleen maar als "uitstel van executie" omdat ik na de master niet meteen naar de arbeidsmarkt wilde.

[Anonymous No.13237692]

>>13236579
With German you also get access to lots of good philosophy. But for literature you're spoilt for choice. French, Russian if you're up for it. Spanish (Calderon, Cervantes), Italian (Dante). I'd say German though. Goethe, Kafka, Mann, Hesse, the great German philosophers.

[Anonymous No.13237707]

>>13229722
It does not make you any more special. It makes you, however, able to read two languages. Unlike americans who cope with excuses like this.

[Anonymous No.13237712]

>>13237528
Ok

[Anonymous No.13237753]

>>13237528
Imagine having to seek pride in your language because your life is so appallingly uneventful and soul-crushingly mediocre.

[Anonymous No.13237763]

>>13229640

imagine considering yourself multilingual when you don't even know latin

[Anonymous No.13237764]

>>13235971
If you don't skip personal pronouns in Spanish you're not a real Spanish speaker.

[Anonymous No.13237770]

>>13229640
>he has the hubris to learn another language before mastering his forst

[Anonymous No.13237771]

>>13229696
Yeah usually the monolingual ones

[Anonymous No.13237776]

https://youtu.be/NiOO6wrhdm0

[Anonymous No.13237783]

>>13237770
You clearly haven't done neither.

[Anonymous No.13237824]

>>13237528
I'll let you on a little secret. I'm from a 3rd world country in South America and I have 5 friends that I know went to study in the US. They found education extremely easy and specially English classes, his grades were much better than the vast majority of natives. One of these friends played basketball in high school in the US and he just laughed his way through it. You might be judging the English of foreigners on a heavy prejudice, after all, English is literally the easiest modern language there is.

>>13237770
>"I speak: Portuguese, German, French, English, Spanish, Italian, Esperanto, some Russian; I read: Swedish, Dutch, Latin and Greek (but with the dictionary right next to me); I understand some German dialects; I studied the grammar of: Hungarian, Arabic, Sanskrit, Lithuanian, Polish, Tupi, Hebrew, Japanese, Czech, Finnish, Danish; I dabbled in others. But all at a very basic level. And I think that studying the spirit and the mechanism of other languages helps greatly to more deeply understand the national language [of Brazil]. In general, however, I studied for pleasure, desire, distraction".
>"And I think that studying the spirit and the mechanism of other languages helps greatly to more deeply understand the national language [...]"

[Anonymous No.13237831]

>>13229699
Based

[Anonymous No.13237928]

>>13237824
>reading books with a dictionary next to you counts as being multilingual
>studying a language's grammar counts as being multilingual
>dabbling at a very basic level counts as being multilingual
And with that seismic goalpost shift, I am now also multilingual.

I also have a lot more than five friends who attended college. Which, by the way, is so easy because the standards have been lowered by non-English speakers like you.

[Anonymous No.13237980]

>>13230678
this guy gets it.
>>13230558
this guy doesn't get it

[Anonymous No.13238008]

>>13237928
right, foreigners that go legally study in the US for a couple of years and that usually do better than natives are to blame for the decadence in american education. And what do you mean non-English speakers? they attended normal classes just like any other american and spoke perfectly good English. Yes, with accent, but who cares?
>reading books with a dictionary next to you counts as being multilingual
not necessarily, but being fluent in 6 languages does.
>studying a language's grammar counts as being multilingual
not necessarily, but being fluent in 6 languages does.
>dabbling at a very basic level counts as being multilingual
not necessarily, but being fluent in 6 languages does.
>non-English speakers like you.
Yeah, because we are typing in Portuguese right now, right?

[Anonymous No.13238014]

>>13229640
I have nothing to add

[Anonymous No.13238067]

>>13229640
>immigrant speaks English
>it's shit
>"oh yeah, well why don't you try learning a second language!"
>learn and speak second language
>it's shit
>"just speak english man"

[Anonymous No.13238136]

>>13238008
I met all sorts of immigrants in college. They do not know how to speak English. They avoid English courses whenever they can, or if they have to take one, they pay native speakers like me to write the essays for them. Even people who moved here during childhood have not learned. They don't understand idioms. They cannot spell. They ignore grammar rules that they have never been beholden to learn, like you do. How does it feel to fly to a foreign country, pay exorbitant amounts to attend their universities because yours are terrible, and get pushed through without learning the language because you aren't graded on your English skills? Your friends are all remedial students, but the university is trying to make money, so they let it slide.

[Anonymous No.13238153]

ESLs, what did English sound like to you before you learned it? I've often wondered this but I can't imagine it.

[Anonymous No.13238261]

>>13238136
obviously there are cases and cases but nonetheless what you said in your posts still is very retarded. 1. Plenty of immigrants speak very good English, sometimes better than native ones that didn't have a very good education; 2. Actually believing immigrants are the reason for America's laughable education standards is nonsense (even because the problem starts at a very young age in the US, the problem is not only in colleges), if your college sucks, get in a better one; 3. Again, cases and cases, I'm sure there is a lot of immigrants that can't even speak properly, just like there is a lot of immigrants with good English.

[Anonymous No.13238274]

>>13238261
America does not have 'laughable education standards', it has the best schools in the world and the test scores for white students are on par with those for Europeans.

[Anonymous No.13238318]

>>13229699
>Can't read the works of Ödön von Horváth
o i am laffin

[Anonymous No.13238382]

>>13229640
Speaking many languages, can't control one

[Anonymous No.13238413]

>>13238274
>>13237928
>Which, by the way, is so easy because the standards have been lowered by non-English speakers like you.
why are you whining, then?

[Anonymous No.13238426]

>>13238153
This anecdote won't answer your question, but it might be interesting to you. When I was a kid (I'm Dutch) I went camping in France with my parents and my sister. Naturally we socialised with some kids, although we couldn't understand them. They were slightly swarthy but we were able to communicate through sign language and drawings on paper. I had a really nice summer with them and my dad took a picture of us when we departed. I think I had a crush on his sister.
Anyways, I had no concept of nationality or language at that age. All I knew is that I couldn't understand his words, or what his parents were saying to me. It seems children are more inventive when it comes to communication. Or communication is more simple and limited, which caused his parents communication to be too complex for my infant brain to understand.

During later holidays in France (I was probably 8 or 9 by now) me and my sister socialised with a bunch of french and english kids. We attempted to impress them by counting from 1 to 3 in English, before they jumped in the pool. It probably sounded like shit to them.

[Anonymous No.13238437]

You all realize that to have any literary credentials at all, any semi-educated Anglo will know at least English, Latin, Greek, and French.

Any Euro will know, at least, their mother tongue, English, French, German, Latin, and Greek.

Anyone else is the reason times are what they are.

[Anonymous No.13238438]

>>13229640
who /hindi bolne wala/ here?

[Anonymous No.13238491]

>>13238437
>t. knows 1 or 2 of those
it's just so easy, apparently you guys don't notice it, but it's just so easy to spot the retards in threads like these...just see this types of posts trying to impose some kind of extremely difficult pre-requisite to "being /lit/" or being "multi-linguist", so that they filter out as many people as possible for them to feel better about only knowing 1 language.
please, stop.

[Anonymous No.13238528]

>>13237528
The funniest thing about this paragraph I wrote, is that no one who replied corrected my obvious punctuation/grammar errors. It's low hanging fruit.

And you want to know why no one pointed it out? Because their English is so poor, they cannot discern the technical mistakes!

[Anonymous No.13238579]

You faggots need to realize that you can't learn a language (much less appreciate the nuances of its literature) by using duolingo for a few months and looking every second word of a book up in a dictionary, just so you can say that you "read the original". All you pseuds that do this are better off just reading the translation.

[Anonymous No.13238642]

>>13238437
lmao it's not the 18th century pops.

[Anonymous No.13238741]

>>13238579
>You faggots need to realize that you can't learn a language (much less appreciate the nuances of its literature) by using duolingo for a few months and looking every second word of a book up in a dictionary, just so you can say that you "read the original". All you pseuds that do this are better off just reading the translation.
how would you know since you are clearly a monolingual? absolute KEK at ALL the americans at 100% damage control at their laziness and arrogance.
great thread

[Anonymous No.13238748]

>>13229699
>translated in the spatial structure of reality
bruh look at this dude

[Anonymous No.13238799]

>>13238579
this

[Anonymous No.13238909]

>>13238741
>how would you know since you are clearly a monolingual?

I'm fluent in German and Italian (grew up speaking them) and I know English as well, but only because I studied it in school and in private for many years.

You need to be pretty damn good to actually understand and appreciate complex literature in a foreign language and it takes years of work to reach that level (even when you take courses, which most of you are probably too autistic to do)

[Anonymous No.13238945]

>>13229699
Massive cope

[Anonymous No.13238957]

>>13229769
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.13238988]

>>13238528

YIKES

[Anonymous No.13239013]

>>13238528

Is this bait or are you really like this?

[Anonymous No.13239047]

The Anglos in this thread who are upset clearly lost all of their lives in Duolingo.