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13229546 No.13229546[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Who are some good fascist and far right philosophers? Poets and writers with far right tendencies also welcome.

>> No.13229549

incel

>> No.13229552

incel

>> No.13229567
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13229567

Bump because in-debt college students think it’s witty to throw incel around.
Idk anon, try looking for something a little more obscure in thought and work your way up to Hitler-chan. Implying this isn’t a bait thread

>> No.13229574

>>13229546

>> No.13229578

Marx

>> No.13229586

>>13229546
there are none

>> No.13229621

>>13229546
Georges Sorel
Charles Maurras
Filippo Tommaso Marinetti
Thomas Carlyle
Alfred Rosenberg
Julius Evola
Ludwig Klages
Carl Schmitt
Francis Yockey
Stefan George
Julius Evola
Guillaume Faye
Gustave Le Bon
Henri Bergson
Giovanni Gentile
Jacques Derrida
Edgar Jung
Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
Gabriele D'Annunzio
Friedrich Nietzsche
Oswald Spengler
Ezra Pound
Louis-Ferdinand Céline

Michel Foucault
Alain de Benoist

>> No.13229622

>>13229546
these are some of the ones the reactionaries always mention that Ive found interesting:

Carlyle
Samuel johnson
Hume
de Maistre
Pobedonostsev
HS Maine
Froude
Hoppe
CF Adams
Nock

I think it's a disservice to poets to label them right or left wing since their art has nothing to do with politics if it's any good.

>> No.13229623

Incel

>> No.13229645

Ernst Jünger

>> No.13229765

>>13229567
what is this picture and where does it originate from? i see this guy laughing all of the time, he's really ugly, and for some reason this picture pisses me off

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13229772

is this you OP?

>> No.13229781

>>13229645
he's neither fascist nor far right

>> No.13229792

>>13229772
>>13229623
>>13229578
>>13229552
>>13229549
this, so much this, as a white person i literally can't even right now. seriously losing all faith in humanity at these nazis, i mean it's called being a decent human being, like who hurt them?

anyways wanna exchange reddit usernames, we should go back before it gets too toxic

>> No.13229795

>>13229792
You have had sex :)

>> No.13229800

>>13229546
Nazism isnt even right wing, idiot.

>> No.13229801

>>13229800
agreed, nazis were socialists like bernie sanders!

>> No.13229820

>>13229765
Jean-François Gariépy, he was one of those alt-right types who rose to prominence under the whole MAGA/HWNDU surge doing "internet bloodsports "with Andy Warski. He's extremely narcissistic and probably a psychopath. Big /pol/ meme in 2017 and stuff, completely forgotten now.

>> No.13229848

>>13229567
incel

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>>13229546
Kaczynski. He certainly can be considered an extreme eco-fascist. he advocates for an extremely disciplined movement of anti-tech revolutionaries.

>> No.13229876

>>13229800
yeah bro! nazis were supported abortion and welfare just like the democrats! and democrats are leftwing so that makes nazi leftwing. hitler was literally a democrat

>> No.13229893

>>13229876
youre literally a faggot

>> No.13229897

>>13229893
so much for the tolerant left!

>> No.13229904

>>13229897
so much for your heterosexuality

>> No.13229918

>>13229586
Spbp

>>13229621
Don’t forget Evola, and Marx and Stalin and George Washington and Pol Pot and Hitler and that Twisted world kid

>>13229801
>Le Hitler was a left wing socialist
>and my personal hero

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Not fascist in any real sense minus some wignats need to put his own worldview into Storm of Steel and other works. As far as right wing goes he's my personal choice.

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13229970

>all these Jugner fags posting Storm of Steel
>no mention of Degrelle
Plebs

>> No.13230027

>>13229546
Far right as defined by the contemporary bourgeoisie?

>Nietzsche
>Martin Heidegger
>Oswald Spengler
>Julius Evola
>Mencius Moldbug
>Aleksandr Dugin
>Leon Degrelle
>Ernst Junger (unless you define left/right by the standards of 1939 Germany.)
>Louis Ferdinand Celine
>Yukio Mishima
>Adolf Hitler

Honestly, most of them. Bear in mind the definitions are being delivered and institutional power are manned by faggots that unironically think the Klan-laden ranks of American gi's were there with the intention of making the world safe for mulatto trannies, like >>13229918 etc.

>> No.13230039

>>13230027
by the way, if anyone's been looking for a WWII equivalent to Storm of Steel, 'In Deadly Combat', by Gottleib Herbert Bidermann is a first-hand account of the eastern front, without the cloying apologism that plagues even the most benign memoirs of service in the German forces.

>> No.13230055

>>13229970
He's a lot harder to come by. You can find like five uploads of SoS on yt, to one blacklisted reading of Burning Souls.

>> No.13230059

>>13230027
yep, nëché is loved by the leftist, but he was the antithesis of a SJW

>> No.13230071

>>13230027
and I'd add Bakunin and Trotsky, specifically his account of the Russian Revolution, to that list.

>> No.13230082

>>13229546
Corneliu Codreanu

>> No.13230144

>>13229546
Not necessarily FAR right, but Burke is rather important for a lot of conservative leaning thought. Worth reading at least for developing a canon of the right.

>> No.13230271

>>13229621

Gabriele D'Annunzio is a fucking hero

>> No.13230296

>>13230039
it's not on libgen wtf do i do?

>> No.13230339

>>13229546
have sex

>> No.13230511

>>13230339
why?

>> No.13230523

>>13229918
>you can't be a socialist if you're racist

>> No.13230530

>>13230511
That coward won't give their actual opinion, they are the people of meaningless likes and shares and votes and they have no ability to express anything but yay/nay.

>> No.13230596

>>13229970
Degrelle is low iq, not worth mentioning in teh same breath as jugner.

>> No.13230599

>>13229801
I don't know about that but Nazism certainly is closer to Bernie's "Democratic" socialism then Fascism, economically and even morally speaking on some things.

>> No.13230629

>>13230599
>Nazism certainly is closer to Bernie's "Democratic" socialism then Fascism
Nazism, as conceived of by pretty much any Nazi or Fascist, is the German form of fascism.
Just like the iron guard represents the Romanian version of Fascism, Rexism the Belgian, the BUF the English and so on.

>> No.13230630

>>13229621
explain Derrida and Foucault pls

>> No.13230638

>>13230629
People (such as John Lukacs) have critiqued the idea of a "generic fascism", and Lukacs even argues that Italian fascism and National Socialism had more differences than similarities.

>> No.13230647

>>13230638
I don't really care that much what non Fascists, who clearly have a hatred for everything Fascist, have to say about the definition of Fascism.

That's like basing you view on Marxism upon the words of Richard Spencer.

>> No.13230654

Carl Schmitt
Nicolas Gomez Davila
Louis de Bonald
Bernanos
Louis Salleron
Juan Donosco Cortes
Jean Ousset
Abel Bonnard
Robert Brasillach
Lucien Rebatet
Maurice Barrès
Léon Daudet
Joseph Merel
Céline
Péguy
Chateaubriand
Maurras
de Maistre
Léon Bloy
Julio Meinvielle
Maurice Bardèche
Gottfried Feder
Friederich List
Hjalmar Schacht
Edouard Demachy
Marquis de la Franquerie
Edouard Berth
Georges Sorel
Alphonse Toussenel
Maurice Talmeyr
Jacques Bainville
Henri-Roger Gougenot des Mousseaux
Edouard Drumont
Léon de Poncins
Werner Sombart
Mgr Henri Delassus
Burke
Mgr Justin Fèvre
G. G. Canet
Louis Veuillot
Joseph Lémann
Augustin Lémann
Or anything written before 1450.

But really, just start with the Greeks.

>> No.13230658

>>13230654
>But really, just start with the Greeks.

im so glad i didn't fall for this meme

>> No.13230667

>>13229546
The naruto anime (not shippuden) portrays the hidden leaf as extremely fascist and ideal society.

>> No.13230671

>>13230647
Lukacs is a reactionary and a Jew who suffered under Hungarian anti-Semitism during the war, but also a rather level-headed man. He's not frothing at the mouth. His books are so fair to his subjects that you might almost suspect him of sympathising with them were it not for his Jewishness. You treat fascism like a metaphysical revelation which only the elect can understand.

>> No.13230680

>>13230658
How can you be glad if you didn't fall for the meme ? You don't have enough information to be glad about it. The Greeks are great, often better than the moderns.

>> No.13230687

>>13230671
>You treat fascism like a metaphysical revelation which only the elect can understand.
Understanding itself is something only the elect can comprehend. Most are sunk (versenke) in life.

>> No.13230728

>>13230671
Granted, my knowledge of him is reading through his Wikipedia article, after which I considered the possibility of him being very charitable of fascism as pretty low.
And there have been too many books in which fascism basically is defined as "bad person who does bad things".

>You treat fascism like a metaphysical revelation which only the elect can understand.
That wasn't my intent, but certainly have been many people talking about fascism who clearly just use it to smear the other political side.

Finally, there might be a very reasonable case to be made for the differences between, what fascists would consider, different forms of fascism adapted to each national character, so much so that one might argue that there actually isn't a core Fascism from which specific Fascism's arise.
But that is something that no fascist, I am aware of, actually believed. Mosley conceived of it basically as I described, Codreanu talked about German, Italian and Romanian Facism as a Trinity and so on.

>> No.13230819

>>13230680
Literally everything is better than the moderns DESU

>> No.13230857

>>13229621
be wary of this list. some pseuds on here

>>13230654
this one seems better

>> No.13230863

>>13230857
>this one seems better
If you have any question about the authors, just ask.

>> No.13231037

>>13229876
As you well know, unironic people like that actually exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U99VDQb7FE
/offtopic

>> No.13231224
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13231224

Joseph Mérel

>>13229970
this
absolutely based

>>13230596
>Degrelle is low iq
jungerfag cope

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>>13231224
Since time is in fact circular, it is not in the past that the present ought to be measured in order to prepare for the future, it is by the extreme future (the concept of what is ideally to be realized) which is also the origin of the past, which thereby assumes the past only by revising it.
When the present is decaying (and such is the sad condition of our times), it is natural that we tend, in a reactionary fashion, to return to the past, because illness is a corruption of the health it presupposes ; reaction is opposed to progressivism, which dreams of an infinite, linear movement towards a necessary progress (as opposed to the past situation). But the reactionary spirit opposes progressivism only by adopting the same postulate, namely the linear conception of time ("things were better before"), and as such, is the partner-in-crime of progressivism. To return to the past to ward off the catastrophe of a future, potentially contained in a decaying present would re-engage the process of giving birth to this present decadency. The proper method of promoting real progress, then, is not to return to the past as a paradigm - thus to a past that needs to be made present again - but to return to the past in a critical perspective, namely to make present only what was timeless within the past, and to what the past itself was inadequate (if it had been adequate with it, it would never have given birth to a decaying present), in order to promote a future which, far from progressivism, is inscribed in the "telos" of a return to the Origin (the concept of what has to be, first in intention and ultimate in execution), which, far from the reactionary spirit (sacralization of the past as past), is ablative of temporality itself and of the past. It is not because this shifting, collective, historical reality, which is France, has become aware of its vocation only within and through its history, that its past history should be taken as the proper expression of its concept.

>> No.13231268

>>13231224
>>13231227
Who is this "Joseph Merel" and why can't I find anything about him in english?

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>>13231268
He's a French fascist philosopher.
The reason why you can't find anything on him in English is because he was never translated, but it also is impossible to find info on him in French since he writes under pseudonyms (Joseph Mérel, Jean-Jacques Stormay, Stepinac, and maybe others).

see >>/lit/thread/S12245308#p12245815, there's a couple of things about him and his philosophy in there

>> No.13231362

>>13229546
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

>> No.13231366

Francis Parker Yockey

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Every single thing by Mussolini is found here https://eholgersson.wordpress.com/2018/03/26/opera-omnia-di-benito-mussolini-a-cura-di-edoardo-e-duilio-susmel-volumi-integrali-1-35/

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13231477

>>13229546
fascism is left wing

>> No.13231489

>>13231477
Oh yeah, there also a difference between saying "Fascists are Left Wing" and "The Left Wing in Fascist," or the D'souza "Democrats are Nazis."

But what should I expect? /lit/ doesn't know basic logic. The converse is not the same big brains ;)

>> No.13231510

>>13231489
hello newfriend

>> No.13231588

>>13231278
>>13231224
Thanks for putting this together. Are any of these translated into English, aside from Mein Kampf, that is?

>> No.13231636

Jayme Louis Liardi, formerly known as Simply Vegan, wrote a book shortly before he went offline title "Revelation: A Return to Virtue".
I'm enjoying it enough to post it here

>> No.13231692

>>13231588
yep

The central ones are unavailable in English (they're the most interesting imho).

The ones that are available in English (and probably on archive.org are :
Joinville's Life of Louis the IXth
Mussolini, Hitler, Primo de Rivera

As for philosophy, none of these have been translated.
Saint Thomas Aquinas' commentary on Aristotle's Politics was translated
Koninck's book can be found here https://emmilco.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/de-koninck-common-good.pdf
Garrigou-Lagrange's books all are on archive.org in English here https://archive.org/details/Garrigou-LagrangeEnglish (see for "God" in 2 volumes)
Catechism of the Council of Trent and abp Lefebvre are foundable too
and as for Iota Unum, here's the English version : http://www.sspxasia.com/Documents/books/Iota_Unum/index.htm

You can add to that list Aristotle's Nichomachean ethics, Hegel's political writings and his Philosophy of Right, and Carl Schmitt's works, since it is foudable in English and in the same vein.

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>>13231477
>State bad

>> No.13231714

>>13231692
My bad. I forgot these ones :
Nuremberg or the Promised Land (Bardèche), several books by Hervé Ryssen have been translated (https://herveryssen.wordpress.com/herve-ryssen-in-english/)), and I guess some of Faurisson's work have been translated.

>> No.13231727

>>13231701
Do you even know what subsidiarity is?

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13231746

LOVE OR DIE

>> No.13231779

>In one widely quoted remark, he described Jesus as an "Aryan fighter" who struggled against "the power and pretensions of the corrupt Pharisees" and Jewish materialism.

>> No.13231849

>>13231692
>>13231714
Ah, yes, I should have mentioned I assumed some of the Aquinas and Aristotle books were translated as well, but your write up is very helpful and much appreciated.

Are you a National Socialist Catholic? I'm curious as to your intellectual journey, especially if you are a Frenchman.

>> No.13231899

Adolf Hitler
George Lincoln Rockwell
David Myatt
Alexander Slavros
James Mason
William Pierce
Miguel Serrano
Savitri Devi
AC Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada
Kurt Eggers

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>>13231727
Do you even know that order from chaos is a myth and that the subsidiarity principle totally ruins any sane and organicist conception of the Civitas ?

Subsidiarity (as opposed to fascist corporatism) is based on individualist principles.
The problem lies on a false conception of the link between nature and surnature ("we only have one final ends : our salvation"), which is a negation of the distinction of the two orders (in a protestant fashion ; no wonder why the major subsidiarists are either Prots : Althusius, von Gierke, or modernists).

Instead of posing the politics as central due to the political nature of human beings, subsidiarists think that politics are subordinated by morals (because no final ends without grace, which negates the gratuity of grace) instead of seeing politics as architectonic, i.e. having morals "subordinated" in a way to it, just as the brain is subordinated to the whole human person : neither the brain is supressed nor the body is seen as independant from this organ, which is saying that the common good of the City (which normally is the final cause of it) is subordinated to the person.
This leads to the final cause of the City being subjective (the person), not common, not diffusible, which basically ends all non-polemical political life.

This false conception of the causality of the State also is contractualist, because when you negate the importance of our political nature (which is the efficient cause of the City), instead of saying that the State is the formal cause of the City, and that the common good is its final cause, you have to see the State as the efficient cause of the City, which makes of the State only an instrument for persons to obtain the conditions of their salvation.
Which is making the State only a referee between Persons, not ontologically central but secondary, problematic as it is seen as "a necessary evil" to enable all persons to go to Paradise. And the State has to be replaced by lesser organs (intermediate bodies) -without even a reference to the State as the source of its power- anytime it is possible, since a lesser "necessary evil" is always better than a big ole one.

And that's why it's against the aristotelo-thomist and the aristotelo-hegelian fascist view of the rational organic State but very prone to be a bastard libertarianism which is far closer to marxism than nazi/fascist totalitarianism, because marxism has the same final cause (the Person's -material- "salvation") and anti-organic view (the State is not an organism but a mecanism, the organs do not participate internally in the life of the body, but are alive only thanks to an external impulsion given by the State : the State is only an instrument that gives its parts life).

>> No.13231910

>>13231899
>Slavros

>> No.13231949

>>13231849
>Are you a National Socialist Catholic? I'm curious as to your intellectual journey, especially if you are a Frenchman.
I was a monarchist but became nat-soc for a lot of reasons, but the main ones are that I'm not antigermanic, that nearly everybody in the Right is antifascist and antinazi (using lies and their passions as "arguments" to justify their position) yet constantly fails, that the philosophical basis of nearly all currents are at least partially false and that nobody tries to make a united doctrine of all good elements, and instead fight like autists, doing only polemics and never thinking ("philosophy is for lefties").

>> No.13232068

Fillipo Marinetti

>> No.13232225

>>13229546

>> No.13232272

at this rate any serious thinker that touches upon any aspect of the democratic lineage, applied to contemporary retardisms, is considered fascist. because learning is fascists if not catered through the lcd filter of tribal consumerism.

>> No.13232298

>>13232272
Fascism is anything an American Progressive doesn't like. This is a good enough operational definition for the current year.

>> No.13232364

Knut Hamsun

>> No.13232395

>>13232298
but then you get kneejerks on the 'right' who play right in to the lobotomizing narrative play. which should be avoided if anyone wants any fruit of intellectual rigor. the point is to get you rabid, convincing enough to assume control over you. ironic thing is the 'american progressive' is what defines fascism in raw power relations and an opponent for foreign countries own brand of fascism.

>> No.13232410

>>13230857
basé

>> No.13232417

>>13230654
rouge pilulé

>> No.13232628

>>13232410
>>13232417
Based & Frenchpilled

>> No.13232651

>>13229781
He's reactionary.

>> No.13232729

SOMEONE GIVE ME SOME FUCKING ENGLISH LITERATURE ON SALAZAR AND THE ESTADO NOVO OR I'M GOING TO FUCKING LOSE IT!
GIVE ME ONE SINGLE BOOK ABOUT LIFE UNDER THE REGIME OR ITS POLICIES! IM NOT FUCKING KIDDING, IF ONE OF YOU FUCKERS DOESN'T POST SOME GOD DAMNED SALAZAR LITERATURE IN THIS THREAD YOU'RE ALL FUCKING DEAD!

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>>13229546
without looking at other posts, just read the following
>hitler
>goebbels
>spengler
>hamsun
>kaczynski
>ellul
>ezra pound
>celine

oh, and dont read evola and rosenberg, those are cringy af, especially rosenberg, even goebbels called the myth of the 20th century "a philosophical burp" which is a good explanation since a burp is a loud noise without information

>> No.13232777

>>13232754
>Ellul
>Fascist or right wing

What

>> No.13232788

>>13231949
Interesting. I really do appreciate your charts and information. They are clearly well thought out. Any additional book recommendations are quite welcome, especially those with a German or English translation.

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>>13232777
oh, how i was waiting for this comment...
i included him because of his critique of technological societies which is an extremely important topic and i consider his works more profound than kaczynskis
i dont give a flying fuck about labels like fascist or right wing, those are redd*t af

oh, i forgot to mention Davila and Feder, those are mandatory

>> No.13232822

>>13232802
But the OP asks for Fascist or Right wing thinking. Elull has entire works looking into this thinking and they aren't songs of praise.

A critique of tech isn't inherent to either of those. Plenty of thinkers like D'Annunzio, Mussolini, and the Futurists has nothing but respect for tech.

>> No.13232853

>>13232822
i dont give a fuck what op asked for, i bully him into reading Ellul or whatever the fuck i want him to read

>> No.13232879

>>13229621
D'Annunzio was the fucking man. Gives hope to bald manlets everywhere

>> No.13232900

>>13231692
Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera is fantastic

>> No.13232917

>>13232729
Help this man.

>> No.13232937

>>13232754
>hamsun
>kaczynski
>don't read Evola

Based and truepilled. Evola is a meme and extremely overrated.

>> No.13232940

>>13229546
Jordan Peterson

>> No.13233046

are there any moral fascists?
or fascism without racial, ethnic, or etc components?
where can I read about non white fascism?

>> No.13233083

>>13233046
Ew.

>> No.13233114

>>13233046
You what ?
Fascism and nationalism are universal. Racism is the recognition of natural subdivisions of the human species, as God wills.

It's not because it emerged in Europe that it cannot be transfered and adapted (in its great theoretical lines) in other countries.

Arabs have great ones with the Ba'ath party.
Try Michel Aflaq's wonderful work, Sadam Hussein's Zabibah and the King, Nasser's The Philosophy of the Revolution, Gaddafi's Green book.
Also, Ikki Kita. http://www.worldfuturefund.org/Reports/Japan/Kitta.htm

>> No.13233418

>>13233046
cringe

>> No.13233425

>>13230296
You can buy it on the internet, or listen to the audiobook on yt.
>inb4 ">>>audiobook"
>not making the most of your not-reading time by listening to reading

>> No.13233458

Fascism is just the friends we made along the way.

>> No.13233463

>>13229546
Nate Bumber
Philip Purser Hallard
Simon Bucher Jones
Andrew Hickey

>> No.13233548

>>13229546
Incel autistic american inbred neckbeard turbovirgin asperger whorish trump worshipper retarded manchildren slut

>> No.13234660

>>13232364
this

>> No.13234687

>>13229546
Evola is in his own terms a 'superfascist', read him last if at all and begin with his works on Eastern Philosophy. I recommend The Doctrine of Awakening.

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>>13229546
Serrano.

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>>13229546

>> No.13235236

>>13230658
>being this pleb
Kys faggot

>> No.13236261

>>13234925
cringe

>> No.13236539

Have sex

>> No.13236619

Why do "fascist" larpers want to immerse themselves in an ideology that most from their society find repellent?

>> No.13236680

>>13236619
that's not a good reason not to do something

>> No.13236852

>>13236619
Why should we care what a society that accepts trannies thinks is repellent

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>>13236852
This.
What matters is neither how a thing is viewed, nor how many people reject it.
What matters is : is it right or wrong ? Is it true or false ? Is it good or bad ?
A billion people can think that 1+1=3, a trillion people can think that men can become women and vice versa, that doesn't make it true.

>> No.13236922

>>13236888
Wow

Astounding thought

Please tell us more, brave knight

>> No.13236998

>>13229546
Fascists, by their very denomination, can be only sophists, not philosophers - drivellers, not poets.

>> No.13237038

Have sex

>> No.13237053

>>13236998
and that's a good thing

>> No.13237057

>>13237053
Yes, their mediocrity is easy to discern.

>> No.13237094

>>13236619
What "most" people think comes from what they learn from authority, we should want people to learn right thought, right action etc. instead of "you do you man. Freedom! Except if you do you the wrong way expect social ostracism, bigot."

>> No.13237185

>>13232937
"Ride the tiger" is a good attitude to have in this clown world, anon

>> No.13237195

>>13236922
waw

good post


upvoted

>> No.13237229

>>13234687
>his works on Eastern ...
You nailed it: Evola was a filthy orientalist.

>> No.13237293

>>13233046
you can and should be fascist for your race

>> No.13237563

>>13237185
‘Riding the tiger’ is literally a coping mechanism dressed up in philosophical jargon to make right-wing defeatists feel good about themselves.
I like Evola but people referencing ‘ride the tiger’ as if it’s anything other than a cope for defeatists is stupid.

>> No.13237577

>>13229546

-Friedrich Nietzsche
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
-Martin Heidegger

>> No.13237587

>>13229546
Fascism is not particularly right wing.

>> No.13237826

>>13237563
t. Never read Evola

>> No.13237884

>>13229926

He is wholesome in the reddit sense but in a positive way.

>> No.13238050

>>13230857
>some pseuds on here
some incels on here

>> No.13238054

>>13231910
Slavvybaby

>> No.13238066

>>13236619
Sure fascism is detestable but assessment on social grounds is a philosophic approach that js almlst as bad. The primacy of the social can get bent.

>> No.13238128

>>13238066
*is almost
christ

>> No.13238255

>>13237229
This

>> No.13238259

>>13232364
based

>> No.13238442

why no love for rudolf john gorsleben?

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>>13238442
>neopagan occultist BS
yikes

>> No.13238617

>>13236680
>>13238066
In general I agree but isn’t fascism in particular about culture/community/race etc? Seems like a contradiction to pursue fascism when most of the people it’s meant to be “for” are actively disgusted by it.

>> No.13238643

>>13238617
You've been drinking too much Reddit juice, 90% of fascist lit was boring as fuck economics and polity.

>> No.13238647

>>13236619
societal thought is most heavily influenced by corporate interests lmao why would we value it

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>>13236888

>> No.13238657

>>13236998
>>13237057
>tripfag
fuck off

>> No.13238701

>>13238643
I never go on Reddit that’s just what people say fascism’s about here

>> No.13238719

>>13238647
Fascism was heavily influenced by corporatism

>> No.13238745

>>13238701
Nigga the people here talk about eating the rich while watching the latest capeshit, you'd get a more accurate understanding of fascism from /fit/ than /lit/.

>> No.13238769

>>13238745
Why don’t you give a concise summary of the key principles and ideas rather than pretending like fascism is some ineffable thing?

>> No.13238782

>>13229546
There are none.

>> No.13238800

>>13238769
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm
In the Fascist conception of history, man is man only by virtue of the spiritual process to which he contributes as a member of the family, the social group, the nation, and in function of history to which all nations bring their contribution. Hence the great value of tradition in records, in language, in customs, in the rules of social life (8). Outside history man is a nonentity.
Fascism is therefore opposed to all individualistic abstractions based on eighteenth century materialism; and it is opposed to all Jacobinistic utopias and innovations. It does not believe in the possibility of "happiness" on earth as conceived by the economistic literature of the XVIIIth century, and it therefore rejects the theological notion that at some future time the human family will secure a final settlement of all its difficulties. This notion runs counter to experience which teaches that life is in continual flux and in process of evolution. In politics Fascism aims at realism; in practice it desires to deal only with those problems which are the spontaneous product of historic conditions and which find or suggest their own solutions (9). Only by entering in to the process of reality and taking possession of the forces at work within it, can man act on man and on nature (10).

Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State, which stands for the conscience and the universal, will of man as a historic entity (11). It is opposed to classical liberalism which arose as a reaction to absolutism and exhausted its historical function when the State became the expression of the conscience and will of the people. Liberalism denied the State in the name of the individual; Fascism reasserts the rights of the State as expressing the real essence of the individual (12). And if liberty is to he the attribute of living men and not of abstract dummies invented by individualistic liberalism, then Fascism stands for liberty, and for the only liberty worth having, the liberty of the State and of the individual within the State (13). The Fascist conception of the State is all embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism, is totalitarian, and the Fascist State - a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values - interprets, develops, and potentates the whole life of a people

...
This sort of thing could potentially find favor among conservatives looking back at the traditions of their country. That's what it was in the first place, it definitely was not just 'get along with the prevailing social trends of the day' which were things like liberalism and socialism.

>> No.13238813

>>13229546
D. H. Lawrence and Knut Hamsun.

>> No.13238832

>>13238719
corporatism is not the same as neoliberal globalist corporate interests

>> No.13238838

>>13230630
They BTFO the Enlightenment. Is there anything more "far-right" than that as a political project?

>> No.13238860

>>13236619
People don't find fascism repellent. If they are presented with fascism without knowing what it is, they embrace it. See peronism in Argentina, bolivarianism in Venezuela, or the current ideology of the Communist Party of China.

A national developmental state would also be very popular in deindustrialized Western countries. It just can't be call itself "fascist" because the term, not the ideology, is what people find abhorrent.

>> No.13238917

>>13238800
This is more or less what I understood fascism to be. The question still stands, the “people” who are meant to embody this spirit and constitute the nations that drive history dislike fascism and would prefer to abandon it.

>> No.13238925

>>13238917
>it definitely was not just 'get along with the prevailing social trends of the day' which were things like liberalism and socialism.
The people are a sort of malleable entity for a fascist and need guidance from above, it is the historical context, not the present context, that matters.

>> No.13239418

>>13232754
Rosenberg is based and his Mythus is key to understanding race soul and aesthetics. That little club-footed rat Goebbels was more interested in his own power than his race. Also remove that embarrassment Kaczynski from your list. You’re right about Evola though.

>> No.13239668

>>13229918
kys tripfag

>> No.13239708

>>13239418
Rosenberg is a poor man's Chamberlain.
Chamberlain himself being a poor man's Gobineau.