/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13202835]

What are some manly-ass books that will help me grab life by the fucking pussy? Pic very much related.

[Anonymous No.13202927]

you'll just end up a cringe worthy larper
just suck some dick op nobody cares

[Anonymous No.13202936]

>>13202835
not even a manly book, it's very dry

[Anonymous No.13202950]

>>13202835
Go read The Wars of Justinian, by Prokopios
Thank me later

[Anonymous No.13202951]

op you're probably a fat fag
but have a book anyway for your time
storm of steel by ernst junger

[Anonymous No.13203016]

>>13202835
Thucydides' favourite book, The Iliad.

[Anonymous No.13203025]

>>13202950
>>13202951
Thanks to both of you.
I've actually gotten myself together pretty well physically and professionally but I still shy away from real challenges and from facing the obstacles between myself and my ambitions.

[Anonymous No.13203225]

>>13203016
>The Iliad
>book

pick 1

[Anonymous No.13203241]

>>13203225
The Illiad, Book 1
How to cuck someone 101

[Anonymous No.13203275]

>>13203241
no, you still don't get it. It's incredibly unlikely that the Iliad to which Thucydides referred to as his favorite actually resembles the same Iliad we have received from tradition. Sure, every iteration of the story had the same plot points, but it's even all the more likely that Thucydides never read the Iliad, but instead was an audience member for one of its many performances by the rhapsodes.

[Anonymous No.13203286]

>>13203275
Shut up nerd

[Anonymous No.13203314]

>>13203286
>he doesn't even have a basic understanding of the Homeric Question
ishygddt

[Anonymous No.13203319]

>>13203314
I said shut up, nerd *throws your copy of the Odyssey from the bus*

[Anonymous No.13203322]

>>13203275
He probably read it and it was probably very similar to the manuscripts we have

[Anonymous No.13203361]

>>13203322
but would his text have included book 10? And would his have been Atticized or no?

[Anonymous No.13203393]

>>13203361
If I remember correctly the controversy about book ten predates Thucydides (one manuscript said it was inserted by peisistratos) so I would say the poem Thucydides read probably did include book ten. Of course there is no way to know for sure.

[Anonymous No.13203626]

>>13202835
Forget the machoness it’ll get you nowhere. Just read Kafka and pull art hoes.

[Anonymous No.13203782]

>>13202835
>>13202951
Going to second Ernst Jünger's diary In Stahlgewittern, but I strongly suggest not reading the new English edition translated by Hoffman. Hoffman excises most of the national pride that Jünger had and censors some of the violence. If possible, read the 1924 edition in German. If you can't read German, then read the Basil Creighton translation, which is an English translation of the 1924 edition.

[Anonymous No.13203810]

>>13202835
Gates of Fire

[Anonymous No.13203822]

>>13202936
Nonsense. The conclusion is absolutely mind-numbing, a tour de force if ever one was. Read it sometime

[Anonymous No.13203827]

Lord of the rings
Blood meridian

[Anonymous No.13204290]

>>13203782
>Hoffman excises most of the national pride that Jünger had and censors some of the violence.
That was Jünger himself, you imbecile. At least have a basic understanding of the different versions Jünger edited and why he did it before attempting to recommend a book you haven't even read.

[Anonymous No.13204301]

>>13203782
>Hoffman excises most of the national pride that Jünger had and censors some of the violence.
lmao pleb detected

[Anonymous No.13204305]

>>13203822
It is dry.
Interesting yes, but you're a liar if you think it isn't dry.

[Anonymous No.13204328]

>>13204290
Jünger censored some of the violence in later editions on behalf of his publishers. There's not a single edition in which Jünger cuts out entire paragraphs unlike the Hoffman edition. If you have any respect for history you'd read the 1924 edition, which is to say the most raw and unhindered by moral objections from persons other than the original author edition.

[Anonymous No.13204337]

>>13203275
retard, by that time a "standardized" version was already circulating and there were book markets in Athens

[Anonymous No.13204339]

>>13202835
For me, it's Livy's History of Rome

[Anonymous No.13204345]

>>13204305
women and faggots fear dry books
Fire is dry

[Anonymous No.13204348]

>>13202835
This will man yo ass up

[Anonymous No.13204419]

>>13202835
Read Oblomov. He represents everyone here.

[Anonymous No.13204438]

>>13204305
I think things heat up considerably just before the appearance of Alcibiades. And just HOW the empire was lost is simply staggering.
But in a sense perhaps youre right. Not too long ago there was a thread concerning books that despite their not being all that exciting to read nonetheless seriously stimulated thinking, kept with one, became better over time..
One instance other than Thucydides (for you?) would be Gargantua (Rabelais) for me. Strange that this is another book that concludes brilliantly..
At any rate rare is the moment one looks up from a book and thinks My God, this is among the best books I've ever read; a moment I did in fact experience when reading Thucydides fwiw

[Anonymous No.13204441]

>>13204345
ah yes you a truly a macho man for reading thucydides

[Anonymous No.13204474]

>grab life by the fucking pussy
Sounds like a really toxic attitude, fren. Maybe some introspection is in order. Take a walk out in nature.

[Anonymous No.13204489]

>>13204419
not OP but I may read Oblomov soon
isn't it too slow with nothing happening?

[Anonymous No.13204559]

>>13204489
That's the whole point. "Nothing" happens because he is indecisive and leisurely. He's content with just imagining things or intending to do things and rarely if ever leaves his house. Doesn't have to work since he's rich. Much of the book describes the workings of his mind. There is a section where the book drags, but I don't regret reading the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.13204598]

>>13202950
Are the first 2 books interesting ? They’re not translated in French.

[Anonymous No.13204773]

>>13203319
cringe

[Anonymous No.13204803]

>>13202835
Bronze Age Mindset is the most manly book ever written.

You will look like a boss on Insta.

[Anonymous No.13204818]

>>13202835
This book changed my life and understanding of history. What an incredible lens one can gain from Thucydides through which we can make sense of modern affairs of state.

I recommend you read the Anabasis of both Xenophon and Arrian

[Anonymous No.13204870]

>>13204438
I had much the same experience with this book. Thucydides certainly did create "a treasure for all time" in this book. The immediate breaking down of alliances after driving off the persian invader, the gradual decline of honour and customs, the escalation of destruction, the plague and loss of Pericles, intrigues of Alcibiades, the horrific end of Nicias, and the disastrous Sicilian expedition. There is so much packed in those pages, it is quite honestly the most incredible book ever written. I thank god above that this book survived so that we may know it in our time

[Anonymous No.13205047]

>>13204870
Agreed, anon. Very well put.
That fucking eclipse..

[Anonymous No.13205049]

>>13202835
Reading and writing is a feminine art.

[Anonymous No.13205072]

>>13205049
Writing unlike everything else keeps fresh and is at the very root of EVERY art, anon. Cute b8, though.

[Anonymous No.13205092]

>>13205072
Could you recommend some manly bellydancing techniques?

[Anonymous No.13205347]

>>13202835
How's Thucydides compared to Herodotus

[Anonymous No.13205411]

>>13204348
Alexander's Anabasis and Caesar's Commentaries too

[Anonymous No.13205432]

>>13205347
Dude started the tradition of history (historia) as an legitimate field with serious inquiry into social, political, civic and even medical affairs of man.

>Athenian plague after Pericles' funeral oration
One of the biggest BTFO in history and not attributed to the gods.

Based and secular-pilled