/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13202288]

>Go live alone in the forest in exile
or
>Commit acts of terrorism as a last fuck you to civilisation
or
>Abuse escapism like a drug so I can distract myself from the horror of modern civilisation

[Anonymous No.13202295]

>>13202288
>Project categories

[Anonymous No.13202296]

>>13202288
Number three is what I already do. But to be honest, number four 'kill yourself' is the correct answer.

[Anonymous No.13202298]

>>13202288
Go live in the forest.
Number 2 is edgy and number 3 is lame.

[Anonymous No.13202305]

>>13202288
>tfw you realize we all live alone in a forest

[Anonymous No.13202310]

>>13202305
Have deep sex

[Anonymous No.13202311]

>>13202288
I'm personally thinking of combining 1 and 2, sort of like my role-model

[Anonymous No.13202318]

>>13202288
Everyone here is too beta to choose anything but option 3

[Anonymous No.13202334]

Or
>learn the dialectic and break free

[Anonymous No.13202335]

>>13202288
there is another option, anon
a difficult one, but the most virtuous one

[Anonymous No.13202340]

>>13202288
Or be Ted and do all three, since that’s what you’re obviously hinting at

[Anonymous No.13202367]

>>13202288
>commit acts of terrorism as a last fuck you to civilization
Your petulant tantrum would only make modern civilization even more horrific.

[Anonymous No.13202420]

>>13202367
For you.

For me it would be a catharsis.

>>13202335
>Muh civic duty
Did you even read my post?

[Anonymous No.13202466]

>>13202311
Lmao fucking loser. You won't do anything.

[Anonymous No.13202468]

>>13202335
>Virtue lmao

[Anonymous No.13202474]

>>13202288
or
>abuse drugs for escapism so I can live outside the horror of modern civilisation

[Anonymous No.13202507]

>>13202474
Fuck off degenerate.

Drugs are a terrible form of escapism. They're completely lacking any intellectuality, they're expensive, you risk going to prison etc.

[Anonymous No.13202564]

>>13202288
Option 3 is for sheep, and 1 is the path of an awakened coward. Number 2 is the only one that'll yield any tangible results. Given wealth disparity between the owners and the public, from the shady to the flat out illegal shit these companies are involved in, it's a miracle no one has even bothered to bomb Amazon, Google, and Apple headquarters. Of course, there is always option zero, which is to kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.13202576]

>>13202466
*does*
Now what?

[Anonymous No.13202582]

>>13202288
I just enjoy life
Haute cuisine, sex, drugs, video games, night walks

[Anonymous No.13202583]

>>13202288
I feel like nr 2 doesnt fit in at all

[Anonymous No.13202591]

>>13202288
Get a good soundtrack, visit a mosque and make sure we can watch it
Do it for the lulz and memes

[Anonymous No.13202609]

>>13202288
Go live in a forest and read Zaratustra until you get it

[Anonymous No.13202610]

>>13202564
>is the only one that'll yield any tangible results
Is it?

Ted was the most successful and what did he do? Get a fan club and a footnote in history and the machine kept on truckin. There's plenty of eco-terrorist groups out there, but they're all doing shit with such a minor impact they might as well throw stones at a mountain to try to make it fall over. Even if you had 100 people around the world, blowing up 100 people every week for 100 years, nothing would change.

[Anonymous No.13202614]

>>13202591
Breivik, Tarrant, they weren't thinking big enough.

The immigrants and muslims are a problem, but not one worth dying for. The real problem is technology. Remove technology and all those Syrians would die on the journey to the UK.

[Anonymous No.13202617]

>>13202609
Nietzsche was a little weasel of a man.

He spoke of a being incapable of existing, not even he could live up to his lofty ideals. It's all pat on the back feel good "I can be superman" wank. It's anime for snobs.

[Anonymous No.13202624]

>>13202617
>He spoke of a being incapable of existing, not even he could live up to his lofty ideals.
Literally every philosopher ever
What's your point?

[Anonymous No.13202625]

>>13202624
>What's your point?
That he offers nothing of actual worth, unlike other philosophers. He's the basic bitch version of Sterner.

[Anonymous No.13202631]

>>13202625
>That he offers nothing of actual worth
Also every philosopher ever

[Anonymous No.13202637]

>>13202631
>Also every philosopher ever
Not true.

There's plenty who offer tangible, real world advice for navigating life better.

[Anonymous No.13202669]

>>13202625
Has not read Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.13202682]

>>13202614
I don't care about ideology, only memes
That's why I beg him to get a good soundtrack

[Anonymous No.13202737]

>>13202288
Why not all?

[Anonymous No.13202756]

>>13202288
Well currently all I do is 3 while imagining 2. Sometimes I like to imagine myself at the head of a large and powerful spaceship with an army of mindless drones at my command, who systematically weed out all of humanity, moulding the remains into an image I like and then leading us forward into a golden age of exploration and expansion. I sit upon a throne of skulls and horrors, but my eyes are towards the stars and the universe is bright and full of wonders.

[Anonymous No.13202782]

>>13202288
Have you tried finding a woman and starting a family, Anon? Since you seem to be on the verge of suicide by cop, you have nothing to lose by trying the 'standard' route. Genuinely curious.

[Anonymous No.13202799]

>>13202311
this

[Anonymous No.13202804]

>>13202782
>Have you tried finding a woman and starting a family, Anon?
No, and for good reason.

>99% of women are completely garbage and I wouldn't trust them to babysit a dog let alone stick out a marriage long enough to raise a child
>But let's pretend I get a decent wife and we have a child, what an incredibly selfish a cruel thing we've done
>Dragged an innocent life into a world we both know is the worst point in human history
>Now, we're both sacrificing whatever free time we had for escapism or intellectual pursuits in order to raise the money and spend the time to bring up another life and let it loose in the world
>2 decades of our lives spent on a selfish pursuit, that benefits no one involved not even the child

[Anonymous No.13202815]

>>13202288
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGT4V6JmINA

[Anonymous No.13202818]

If you are going to do 2 at least don't do something lame like killing children or innocent people. Hit people that are cancer to this world, political assassinations etc.

I am joking of course this is a parody of Rabelais is what I am saying here.

[Anonymous No.13202851]

>>13202818
It's really depressing that people feel the need to put disclaimers at the end of certain beliefs because they truly fear the government knocking down their door and locking them up for 10,000 years.

[Anonymous No.13202861]

>>13202851
hahaha, this

[Anonymous No.13202890]

>>13202804
>worst point in human history

LMAO

Yeah, 2019 is totally worse than:
>black death
>holodomor
>holocaust
>WW1 trenches
>Mongol invasions
>gulags
>slavery

Look, I know the world can look like a bleak and meaningless thing, full of pain and misery and trite banter as we all shuffle forward in the queue to our graves, but you can say fuck all that. True, the age of discovery and true freedom is long since gone. Yes, the walls are closing in on what little freedom remains, so why not have a kid and fill them with the wisdom of millennia? You think one man can't make a difference? Fuck you. One man makes all the difference. How selfish of you to deny your biology and not create an army of potential kings, generals, tyrants, conquerors, saints, sinners, and so much more. You want to end a million years of genetic survival because "boohoo life's too hard"? You want it all to end with you and you think that makes you a good person? No, it makes you a sad sack of a shit, a dead end. If you can't do anything to make the world a better place at least give someone else the chance. If you aren't willing to do even that, then kindly excuse yourself from the room. By that I mean fucking killing yourself, because the truth is... you're already dead.


RAGE, RAGE against the dying of the light.

[Anonymous No.13202913]

>>13202890
>black death
>holodomor
>holocaust
>WW1 trenches
>Mongol invasions
>gulags
All existed before the point of no return, when we could have abandoned technology and made a go of hunter gatherer life. They suffered but nothing like the combined suffering of the next 1000 billion people to be born after the invention of the internet.
>Slavery
Only affected niggers, I'm not a nigger.

[Anonymous No.13202914]

>>13202890
>denuvo has made it incredibly hard to pirate most pc games
This truly is the worst time in history

[Anonymous No.13202917]

>>13202890
>you think that makes you a good person
Ahhh, I see you're something of a retard yourself.

I don't care about being good. I care about me and what would make my life better. And none of the self help tier drivel you spout would do that. Take your boomerisms and fuck off.

[Anonymous No.13202920]

>>13202804
>women no longer have to date a worthless person like me for fear of rape, starvation or death

[Anonymous No.13202931]

>>13202804
nah, you're just a cuck through and through.
there are huge problems today, the ones you mention are not one of them.
the problem here is clearly with you, not the world.
get better, please

[Anonymous No.13202937]

>>13202913
>Only affected niggers, I'm not a nigger.
read a book
>it doesn't affect me therefore it's not bad
again, the problem lies with you.

[Anonymous No.13202947]

>>13202937
>read a book
I know about non american slaves, I just assumed you were a retard from the rest of your retarded ramblings.

[Anonymous No.13202952]

>>13202931
>>13202920
>I plan on having a wife and kids because I'm a selfish, self obsessed cunt but I refuse to admit that and dress it up as duty and righteousness so anyone who contradicts this is a poopyhead

[Anonymous No.13202958]

>>13202288
>/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13202965]

>>13202952
possibly the most pathological projection i've ever read on this site

[Anonymous No.13202977]

>>13202952
All these people are so content on fulfilling a "duty" to have kids, thinking it's better to pass the responsibility of improving the world onto a new generation than doing it themselves. Why does destroying technocrats preclude one from having children? Or, why does having children preclude one from ever lifting a finger against the obvious horrors that have been permitted to exist (coincidentally by this same type of person I.e. one who invariably passes the torch of responsibility onto a new generation)?
And how conveniently they retract to an argument of "nurture" and how one must raise their kids to be strong whenever asked why they don't have kids and move on to more important duties.

[Anonymous No.13202978]

>>13202947
i really like the subtle implication that there's only one guy against you

[Anonymous No.13202986]

>this is the worst period in human history
>let me list of why with my personal, subjective objections that have nothing to do with the world and only to do with me
>all fall under the same umbrella
clockwork

[Anonymous No.13203004]

How can anyone say this is The worst time in history when it is objectively the best? Like, literally the best. There are no real problems. All people bitch about are non-issues. If you have depression, guess what? We have drugs for that. Stop trying to ruin the party for everyone else little bitches

[Anonymous No.13203011]

>>13203004
We still have a huge amount of slave labour and sex trafficking.
Also large scale terrorist threats, the likes of which have never been seen before.

[Anonymous No.13203013]

>>13203011
Pfffttt. Yeah right

[Anonymous No.13203021]

>>13202978
No, I'm aware 90% of this board are idiots.

[Anonymous No.13203026]

>>13203013
alright, safe

[Anonymous No.13203033]

>>13203021
>can't deal with existence
>posts meme-existentialist pic about shit lifestyle
>here are my retarded options, fit for a 13 year old
>this board is retarded!!

[Anonymous No.13203036]

>>13203033
Enjoy your two decades of misery and countless sleepless nights wondering why you want to kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.13203040]

>>13203036
weren't you literally just talking about killing yourself in the OP?

[Anonymous No.13203044]

>>13203036
Dude, we all agree that modern life is hell, but none of us are talking about committing acts of terrorism to reee out.
And no one here is so deluded to think that your pathetic examples are the reasons why life is terrible.

[Anonymous No.13203054]

>>13202305
We are all towers

[Anonymous No.13203061]

>>13203044
>we all agree something is broken but refuse to fix it
Shocking

[Anonymous No.13203063]

>>13203061
way to read

[Anonymous No.13203066]

>>13203063
Yes, way to agree

[Anonymous No.13203070]

>>13203061
honestly dude, you should probably just kill yourself.
any of your options will leave you filled with disappointment or worse.

[Anonymous No.13203076]

>>13203070
What's worse than disappointment?

[Anonymous No.13203077]

>>13202977
Not him, but I would call it not only irresponsible, but impractical to be a political activist when you have a child to raise (and no, marching at some parade every couple of months is not political activism and is more than useless). Unless you want to alienate him from society and bring him up as a terrorist, I guess.

[Anonymous No.13203078]

>>13203036
>i am you
lol

[Anonymous No.13203080]

>>13203076
dread

[Anonymous No.13203087]

>>13203004
I know this is bait but the fact that we live in the "best time in history" and yet people have insane rates of mentall illness, lonliness, depression, obesity, etc should tell you that there is something seriously wrong with society. Your argument only really stands up if you look at how technology has made everyday chores easier and solved external illnesses, and ignore everything else.

[Anonymous No.13203094]

>>13203077
I was more getting at, if the desire is to have kids just knock up a bunch a broads and then continue on the March against the machine. They'd rather have their kids deal with the problems than themselves. I'm suggesting they have kids and then move on. I understand some people want to be good dads, but honestly I'd rather my dad be out of my life (which he was) but him contribute to creating a society where my own life will be better, and so will others.

[Anonymous No.13203095]

>>13203080
Which is what I feel working. Hmmmm

[Anonymous No.13203096]

>>13203087
the problem is that people have it too good.
we've lost the connection to nature we once had and it has lead to a loss of purpose

[Anonymous No.13203097]

Test

[Anonymous No.13203101]

>>13203095
get a better job or move to the woods, do something that gives you pleasure.
stop being a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.13203104]

>>13203087
It doesn't even solve illnesses. It just treats symptoms long enough for the body to do all the work without driving the afflicted to suicide or dread

[Anonymous No.13203108]

>>13203095
>>13203101
also, i promise you it's not.

[Anonymous No.13203111]

>>13203063
>>13203070
What, do you think shitposting on 4chan will change the world? That if you read enough society will suddenly become good and people will be happy? America is too far gone to be saved without violence. People have sat complacent with escapist consumerism for too long and now they're powerless against the wealthy and the megacorporations. The natural earth is literally on a path to destruction and you think a couple of well-placed assassinations of heartless muilt-millionaires is "too edgy"? Get a grip.

[Anonymous No.13203119]

>>13203111
>What, do you think shitposting on 4chan will change the world?
way to read
>The natural earth is literally on a path to destruction and you think a couple of well-placed assassinations of heartless muilt-millionaires is "too edgy"? Get a grip.
that is not what i pictured when you said 'terrorism'.

[Anonymous No.13203131]

>>13203119
I'm not the same poster, but dismissing any sort of radical action as "edgy" while you sit in your armchair and let the world collapse around you is ridiculous. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet, or in this case, prevent the collapse of civilization.

[Anonymous No.13203138]

>>13203131
>14 year old retard who thinks he's got it figured out joins isis
>not edgy
come on, man

[Anonymous No.13203145]

>>13203138
way to read

[Anonymous No.13203151]

>>13203101
Hahaha
>move to the woods
And do what? Survive off the non-existent wildlife (which has been culled thanks to over hunting, industrial waste, and constant habitat destruction)? Or how about constantly be on the run from tax men, government lackeys, or property owners?
Believe me, I want to. And I'm going to try. But, as they always say I will return the favor if I ever upset their daily lives; "tough luck."

[Anonymous No.13203154]

>>13203108
Well, if feeling suicidal at the thought of going to work isn't involved, than yeah. You're probably right

[Anonymous No.13203161]

>>13202682
>dude memes lmao
Meme culture is reason 178'893 why a mass culling needs to happen. Normies only deserve death.

[Anonymous No.13203172]

>>13203161
This.
>lulz nothing matters
i think it's a great thing to find detached humor in the world around oneself, and to have a laugh on the way to a destination, but having no conviction for anything beyond a chuckle means I will feel no sorrow for you when the time for sorrow comes

[Anonymous No.13203182]

>>13203004
Reddit the post

[Anonymous No.13203256]

>>13203182
>hahah I have it so bad
Reasons?
>uh...uh... I'm retarded! Take that!

[Anonymous No.13203265]

>>13202614
Syrians aren’t coming. Subsaharan meganiggers, Eritrean rape experts and Afghans are.

[Anonymous No.13203272]

>>13203265
Fuck of, pol

[Anonymous No.13203595]

Why not all three? I'm sure there are some unmanned p*pelines or f*ber in rural areas that could use a good b**m from their neighborhood druggie.

[Anonymous No.13203630]

If i devoted the rest of my life committing terrorist acts that would be kind of gay :/

[Anonymous No.13203638]

>>13203630
Sure it would

[Anonymous No.13203670]

>>13203630
It's not so bad if your alternative is to die unknown and unhappy at the state of the world, be entirely forgotten, you might as well have never existed except to consume resources

[Anonymous No.13203706]

>>13203101
>bro, just progress!
just be happy theory confirmed

[Anonymous No.13203711]

>>13203670
Youre right that when I die the world will have never known I existed but could I do otherwise? I like the idea of using my life as a tribute to a cause but what should i try to kill as many google employees as possible or something. I just dont know how that would make a difference at all

[Anonymous No.13203728]

>>13203711
Plan with a group of people to fly to SEA and destroy rubber plantations or blow up bee hives

[Anonymous No.13203729]

>>13203711
It (hopefulle) goes without saying that, say, bombing an Amazon warehouse and killing a bunch of innocent wageslaves would be a bad idea. Not only immoral, but would have the opposite effect in that people will hate you instead of realizing their hatred for the system.

If you carefully planned it, you could take out key political figures or corporate CEOs, headquarters, databases, etc, coupled with a publishable statement of intent or manifesto could probably create some waves at the very least. Even if it's futile, it could be an honorable attempt.

But then again, this is assuming you have nothing else to live for. And assuming you're not in any position (of extreme wealth or power) where you could achieve the same goals without violence.

[Anonymous No.13203757]

>>13202288

This thread is silly but the OP is right in that the fundamental frustration is from the lack of autonomy for all humans born now and into the future. No matter where you go or what you do, you can no longer live off of nature, you must live at the behest and service of others and your life is dependent on the whims and decisions of hundreds of strangers. Most people don't think about it, or dress it up with delusions they were trained to believe but there is no way to persist except for total dependence on others. Your boss becomes your parent and your liege lord and your survival is attached to your relationship to him, or you become a boss and your survival is based on meeting arbitrary technological standards to be economically efficient and please the whims of customers. Either way your will is subverted and dependent on others.

To facilitate this system the family is destroyed, children are encouraged to move out and live in abject poverty to not be seen as "dependent" but this is a ploy to raise GDP as more houses, utility, and food stuffs must be purchased even if it is frivolous. The family is destroyed too by centralized education and mass media, as no matter what you believe or do unless you go to extremes your child will be warped into a copy of the effective worker and your reproduction into the future was a futile Pyrrhic effort as the child doesn't even belong to you in any meaningful way.

To deny this and live in hedonistic temporal pleasure is to admit to the fact you are not a conscious being that makes decisions.

[Anonymous No.13203778]

>>13203757
And what is your preferred solution, which is the topic of this thread?

[Anonymous No.13203792]

>>13203778
Just say it's all silly but that there's a problem aka be a based centrist

[Anonymous No.13203799]

>>13203778
There is no revolution possible unless world ending measures that simultaneously destroy all technological society are used so thats off the table. You can go live in the woods a harsh lifestyle evading the law but in the next thirty years surveillance will become so effective and cheap they will catch you and jail you. They already have the capability but don't waste the money.

Therefore the only thing to be done is to record ones exploration of thought into art and expression in the hopes of making the environment and aesthetics more bearable for yourself and others in the future. Unironically you are only free to explore the infinitude of your thoughts as the world has been tamed and your fate sealed. So writing or art is the only thing that you can express your meager freedom with.

[Anonymous No.13203808]

>>13203799
>just be a hamster singing odes to your lost freedom for all eternity


Jesus Christ

[Anonymous No.13203830]

>>13203808
Even if someone wanted to stop it now it doesn't matter. The society is controlled and shaped by technology and not people. So with the tiny autonomy granted to us chemical meat puppets destroyed by ourselves we are trapped with only our thoughts. Since the mass of people don't acknowledge these facts as well, it is hard to even have a conversation with someone who isn't deluded in some way or another so it is a lonely and cursed existence.

[Anonymous No.13203835]

>>13203799
>don't do anything
Dropped

[Anonymous No.13203841]

>>13203799
Wouldn't they weigh on your conscious too heavily? Just sitting there making pretty art while the world around you descends into absolute wretchedness? I take it you don't want children?

[Anonymous No.13203842]

>>13203835
The only thing you can do would be something like crash all the satellites into each other and EMP half the world all at once or use a super plague and even then that would only slow down the eventual reset and reemergence of the same system and state of existence.

[Anonymous No.13203849]

>>13203841
Well you can turn the anguish of that weight into beauty with some hand wringing. Having children would be cruel, and even if you did it under ideal conditions you would be subjecting them to a cruelty of loneliness after teaching them the truth. Perhaps I'll have kids anyways purely out of Schadenfreude.

[Anonymous No.13203857]

being a terrorist is the most righteous and just thing you can do in the 21st century, so long as you're not being funded by the US state department

[Anonymous No.13203865]

>>13203842
I'd rather and will die trying, even if futile, than roll over and give these things something beautiful. even so, you seem to think that it *will* come back about if destroyed. And while it's likely that some type of technological society would re-establish, it doesn't necessarily mean they will able to reach our level of desperation. I don't really care, so long as I try to rectify the issue

[Anonymous No.13203888]

>>13202610
>Even if you had 100 people around the world, blowing up 100 people every week for 100 years, nothing would change.
One hundred Unabombers scattered throughout the United States committing acts of domestic terrorism is way more than enough to strike panic in the populace. Even 10 is enough to make people worried and declare a state of national emergency.

[Anonymous No.13203894]

Why don't suicidal or terminally ill people do a otoya yamaguchi

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!/qKRybJPyoB No.13203897]

>>13202288
>Making these your options

Fucking dumb OP.

[Anonymous No.13203900]

>>13202288
or
>transcend and pursue a higher universal positive

[Anonymous No.13204021]

>>13203865
>it doesn't necessarily mean they will able to reach our level of desperation
wishful thinking. maybe the next society will be even more authoritarian and cruel to prevent people like you from succeeding again

>don't really care, so long as I try to rectify the issue
this is why you're a terrorist not a freedom fighter


Do us a favour and commit your terrorism on the "evil" technologists, instead of indiscriminately. Technology is inevitable but we can have an impact on what form it takes

[Anonymous No.13204032]

>>13202311
Based Ted

[Anonymous No.13204161]

>>13202625
just because you didnt understand it doesnt mean its not good, anon

[Anonymous No.13204313]

>>13202288
There is no difference between first and third options.